NightLinks: Turner Says Cutler's Struggles Aren't Vision-related
by Dane Noble on Nov 19, 2009 6:24 PM CST
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In what has been a hot topic for both main-stream media and small football blogs, offensive coordinator Ron Turner addresses the speculation that Jay Cutler's struggles this year could be sight-related.
''I think it is totally a coincidence, I really do,'' Turner said. ''It's not a situation where it's night, it's prime time and maybe he's trying to force the issue too much. That is not the case. I went back and looked at all of them -- that hasn't been the case. I don't know.''
When one reporter brought up the fact that Vinny Testaverde was color-blind, and also had trouble throwing picks, Turner responded:
''I will ask Jay if he's colorblind. I have never asked him that,'' Turner said with a laugh. ''I really will go ask him. I appreciate it.''
Dan Pompei also gets in on the action, and provides a statistical look at Cutler's career at night. Make sure you check it out.
In his four-year career, Cutler has played in 13 night games and is 4-9, even though his numbers with the Broncos at night mirrored his daytime career statistics. Still, what stands out most is Cutler has thrown one interception for every 20.3 attempts in night games, compared with one interception for every 34.6 attempts in day games. And yes, those numbers are a bit skewed from last Thursday's five-interception evening in San Francisco.
Honestly, what do you make of this idea, that Cutler's struggles could be sight-related? We have to assume that medical professionals would have a better understanding of a player's situation than a layperson, but this certainly has gained a lot of attention.
Some will say that when there's smoke, there's fire. Then again, when the media is the one setting the fire, you have to consider the source.
My medical diagnosis: It's the OL people!
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Dear Dr Noble,
I have this dull ache behind my right eye that seems to get worse when I read people scrutinizing every move Jay Cutler makes on and off the field as though they are searching desperately for some answer as to why he just isn’t who we hoped he’d be. I’ve tried whiskey and this seems to help. I’m leaning toward self asphyxiation next. Do you have any other suggestions?
Iconically yours,
Just Dave
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
Dear Just Dave,
I believe your reluctance to belive that Cutler has sight problems is a deep seated issue that is buried just below the surface. Any chance you were bit by a seeing eye dog as a child?
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
Dear Just Dave and Adam T,
We all know that there must be some sort of explanation beyond what our coaches and team doctors are telling us. We all have the responsibility to figure it out, so we can let the team know. Blow it up, and Bear Down.
Kisses,
Dane
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
The ones who need medical attention
are our defense. I know teams suffer from injuries, but come on.
I First Brought This Up On November, 15th, 2009
And I think there is something there. I’m sure the Bears would want to play it coy if there was an issue. We will wait and see how it plays out. There are more Night games on the docket.
I agree
I think it’s just coincidence…
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
when the media is the one setting the fire, you have to consider the source.
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crap. self liaf
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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 19, 2009 9:14 PM CST up reply actions
d'oh
make pic work pls.
also, say no to preventing madness. at least when it concerns my lame handle on here.
ever see the episode of robot chicken where they have a smokey the bear bit? good stuff.
by reefermadness3 on Nov 19, 2009 9:25 PM CST up reply actions
my take
As I said in another post on this website, the “Cutler Eyesight Syndrome” is nothing more than an excuse by panicking fans grasping at straws. Kind of like Salem in during the witch trials when folks got their knickers in a bunch about hard times and accused other folks of being witches or blaming space aliens for cattle mutilations. One of the more “avid” over reactions I have ever read in a sports venue. I use the word avid rather than far more harsh language.
"Chance favors the prepared mind." - Pasteur
What are we forgetting
- how diabetes works. Diabetes is when your pancreas doesn’t produce enough insulin, so your liver doesn’t break down sugar and send it to your cells like it should. Diabetes causes the capillaries in your body to enlarge or break.
- If he is testing his sugar levels multiple times per game and they are within normal levels as was stated many times before, the cells would not be affected.
- Pretty sure the medical staffs for the Broncos and Bears, along with every other team that went through his medical history before he was drafted know way more than me.
- These organizations would not have risked multi-millions if they had any inclination this would affect his play levels. many players get rejected for issues way less than a serious illness like diabetes.
Cutler did not know that he was a diabetic prior to the draft.
I beleive that it came out during his 2nd year with the Broncos.
by sheepskinz1 on Nov 19, 2009 10:51 PM CST up reply actions
yeah..
but since it came out he has taken extraordinarily good care of himself..so his eyesight wouldn’t be affected..neglecting to take care of yourself is what causes the eyesight loss and gangrene of fingers/toes etc. in diabetes
by Pretender85 on Nov 19, 2009 11:24 PM CST up reply actions
WHAT?!
CUTLER HAS GANGRENE?
Omgomgomgomg, his fingers must be falling off!! That must be what’s wrong with him.
Oh, why am I still typing? I’ve got to get a post up!
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
There is usually more pressure in night
games as it’s the only game on. For decades players have talked about how pumped up they were playing on MNF, as they knew that most fans and many of their peers would be watching that game. They were center stage.
If anything, maybe it’s pressure related and not eyesight related.
His first quarter redzone interception against the 49ers has been described by many as one of the worst they have ever seen. Cutler threw the ball directly at three Niners.
That play happened right in front of him. I don’t think he lost his receiver in the night sky on that play.
If anything, this possibly speaks to how Jay handles pressure, when all eyes are on him.
Hopefully not.
Like one of the articles I linked to said,
the NFL and TV networks tend to put better teams in prime time games.
The Bears ain’t a better team this year.
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
The schedule is set before the season starts which always leads to miscalculations
In 2007 the Browns were 10-6 and though to be a serious contender going forward. Therefore they were scheduled for something like 5 primetime games in 2008.
End result? 4-12 and Romeo Crennel loses his job.
Something just hit me that I have never thought of before.
Romeo (Crennel) and Lovie (Smith) have to be two of the strangest names ever for NFL headcoaches.
And, it just hit me...
Mike (Ditka) and Mike (Singletary)
Both played for the Bears, both born in the month of October.
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
Better in what way?
Better in the football we are putting on the field? Nope.
Better in staying in games until the fourth quarter keeping people watching? Yep.
Maybe it is really Ron Turner that can't see at night.
Or maybe he is sober for the day games, but wasted by the time the night games start. I mean think about it it seems to fit the pattern. The only game that varies from this is the Cinci game. I guess it is possible that he was just pulling an all night bender and was therefore still drunk.
in general the bears play a lot suckier at nights
this has gone on for a long time. few night games in recent memory have seen the bears dominate. playing against better competition is a decent excuse but usually the bears either get blown out or squeak out a win it seems like.
by reefermadness3 on Nov 19, 2009 11:00 PM CST reply actions
bah..
I doubt his sight is a problem at night, even if it was, anyone consider how brightly lit the stadiums are at night? it does not matter if its artificial or sunlight, light is light.
We’ve played good talent in our night games so far(49ers are not the browns, lions, seahawks..they are a notch or 2 above those wins) and every time a flashlight has been put up to the hole riddled blanket that is our team every late game we’ve had.
So You Have Elevated The 49'ers Over The Seahawks?
I don’t see it but I guees we will have to let the season play out. It looks to me that this comment is already giving a disclaimer if the Bears lose Sunday Night. Well…………..Philadelphia is a good team.
color blindness shouldn't be a bid dea.
I am very colorblind and an athlete and I have very little difficulty telling the difference between jerseys. Colorblindness isn’t the problem and people that think colorblindness is the issue needs to go look up what exactly color blindness does to your vision.
waiting for shaun phigguns since 2007
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