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Cutler Picked Late, Fall to Eagles 24-20

Despite looking awful for the entire 1st half and most of the third quarter, the Bears managed to find their way into the lead off of a good offensive drive and some tough defensive play.  But in the end the Bears just fell short...again.

I've been more willing to put a lot of the offensive problems on the line and coaching, but today Jay Cutler was just not on.  He had 3 plays that should have been TDs, but he overthrew the ball.  How you can overthrow Johnny Knox and Devin Hester in full sprint mode is beyond me, but he did.

Stats:

Cutler - 171yds, 1 Int, 1 TD

Kahlil Bell - 4 for 81

Earl Bennett - 5 catches for 57 yards

Lance Briggs - 11 tackles

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I think we are ruining Cutler.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Nov 22, 2009 10:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yep

once he gets a new system and a new coordinator catered to his strengths (hopefully after the season) he’ll be ok.

by frenchbears113 on Nov 22, 2009 10:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What's your thought on maybe Charlie Weis as OC?

That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.

by Ditkavsworld

by gaclaudy on Nov 23, 2009 5:55 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

+1...

LOVIE NEEDS TO GO NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When you find yourself in a hole, STOP DIGGING!!!

by LostInSTL on Nov 22, 2009 10:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Tonight should that

with his short clock, and not stepping into any throws

by GtM on Nov 22, 2009 11:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Brilliant and insightful. You’re needed on the Yahoo Sports blogs; WCG is too small an arena for your masterful analysis.

"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy

by Spongie on Nov 23, 2009 2:01 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

my take

Andrea Kremer looked particularly succulent tonight.

"Chance favors the prepared mind." - Pasteur

by Maelvampyre on Nov 22, 2009 10:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

You sound like Dr. Lecter

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 22, 2009 10:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

sorry

Still bothered by the game and how it turned out, so I figured the least bad thing I could say was about Kremer. It’s the coaching, people. It’s the coaching. Muhsin Muhammad spoke about the Bears being where WR go to die, but is it true about QB’s? Pep Hamilton and Ron Turner must be shown the door.

"Chance favors the prepared mind." - Pasteur

by Maelvampyre on Nov 22, 2009 11:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Offensive development

has been less than desired for sure. The coaching has been nothing short of awful, and not one of them is taking responsiblility for the lack of results.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 22, 2009 11:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.

by Ditkavsworld

by gaclaudy on Nov 23, 2009 6:01 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Cutler's confidence has to be destroyed after this season.

''My favorite player growing up was Kevin Garnett and he's now my least favorite player. ''-Joakim Noah

by SoulEater7 on Nov 22, 2009 10:45 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I mean this has been epic failures all on national TV.

''My favorite player growing up was Kevin Garnett and he's now my least favorite player. ''-Joakim Noah

by SoulEater7 on Nov 22, 2009 10:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

How's the Cutler trade looking now?

I knew it would backfire on us, but not this much.

by GouldisGold on Nov 22, 2009 10:47 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

1 season and he sucks alread?

Learning the system, no OL and Ron Turner calling plays?

And your ready to put the whole blame on him?

by TheMan1 on Nov 22, 2009 10:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not putting the whole blame on him..

but I bet we’d be at least 6-4 right now if he performed the was he did with the Broncos.

by GouldisGold on Nov 22, 2009 10:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Look at Matt Cassel

Gonna blame him for the Chiefs losing this year?

More to a team than a QB. And while JC has had many low points this year, he puts us in a better place to win than Orton or anyone else we have had.

Without a throwing QB this year and our current running game, I could only imagine how bad it would have been.

by TheMan1 on Nov 22, 2009 11:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

How is he supposed to perform like he did with the Broncos

when he has no Marshall, Clady, etc. etc.?

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

The Bulls shrink like a dick in cold water.

by dakoose on Nov 23, 2009 12:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Are any big-name receivers going to be free agents when the season's over?

Or are any established receivers out there now which the Bears could pick up to help give Cutler some confidence?

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Nov 23, 2009 10:13 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

the cutler trade is fine

Because Orton would have been worse in the current situation, in my opinion. Pep Hamilton must take the fall for Cutler’s debacle, as well as Ron Turner. Sorry but they are the coaches, the teachers, the motivators.

"Chance favors the prepared mind." - Pasteur

by Maelvampyre on Nov 22, 2009 11:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know...

KO for some reason had the uncanny ability to win games despite his talent as a QB. I don’t know if it was luck or his decision making, but you can’t deny that he won games.

by aznsensation on Nov 22, 2009 11:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

To paraphase Dan Patrick from last night

When talking about Hoodie’s call from last week, “Good Coach, Bad Call”

Well for Cutler, “Good QB, Bad system”.

Someone, anyone tell Ron Turner that play action, naked boot-leg is play he needs to learn. He can borrow my Madden 09 to see how the Broncos ran it last year with a QB with very similar to one that we got.

That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.

by Ditkavsworld

by gaclaudy on Nov 23, 2009 6:05 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

only have to say...

pathetic………..didn’t actually watch the game but seriously this season is just garbage…at least that 2nd string running back showed promise, should’ve given him the ball more maybe even bench Forte for a bit, he is so off this season….

by bearsfan87 on Nov 22, 2009 10:47 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Bowman

has been one of the very, very few bright spots on this team. He is one my personal favorites.

by GouldisGold on Nov 22, 2009 10:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I completely agree

and I believe he’s been instructed to play “off” or conservatively. Once he gets really comfortable, he’ll make even more plays.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 22, 2009 10:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

until we stop play this soft zone crap

he’s going to be playing off all the time. dude is fast as hell…to not let him play a WR tighter is just stupid coaching. as is the soft zone when you can’t get a real pass rush. as is not being able to get home on blitzes repeatedly for several years.

by guy incognito on Nov 22, 2009 11:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Definitely

It seems Bowman plays much, much better when playing aggressive.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 22, 2009 11:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately

lovie likes to play them 80 yards off the LOS

by GtM on Nov 22, 2009 11:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

you can tell by the way he walked and handled himself that he lost confidence in himself. and yes he had an off game but the offensive playcalling was once again horrible. i cannot stand looking at ron turner because he has no idea how to get the offense going and until jay has someone who know what they’re doing and who knows how to get the best out of his players, he’ll keep being the same.

by frenchbears113 on Nov 22, 2009 10:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Listening to Lovie,

he just said that the Bears are still in the mix if they can correct a few problems.

by Fridge72 on Nov 22, 2009 10:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

he will

''My favorite player growing up was Kevin Garnett and he's now my least favorite player. ''-Joakim Noah

by SoulEater7 on Nov 22, 2009 10:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah,

I like Lovie a lot more than the coaches that immediately preceded him, but he isn’t the brightest coach in the world when it comes to game management or adjustments. I wish we could keep him as defensive coordinator and get Shanahan as HC and play caller.

by Fridge72 on Nov 22, 2009 10:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Cowher

I’d like Cowher.

"Chance favors the prepared mind." - Pasteur

by Maelvampyre on Nov 22, 2009 11:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

shanahan

bring in Mike and I bet Cutler cries tears of joy

by frenchbears113 on Nov 22, 2009 11:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

All Hail!

That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.

by Ditkavsworld

by gaclaudy on Nov 23, 2009 6:09 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Bring in his son Kyle

Mike wants too much control over personnel and he can’t do defense. we don’t want the opposite of the Lovie-Angelo team

by GtM on Nov 22, 2009 11:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No, obviously

he can’t say that. However he does come across as a little delusional.

by Fridge72 on Nov 22, 2009 11:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

Who is he kidding? He knows we’re done.

by GouldisGold on Nov 22, 2009 11:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

thats just pure absolute crap!

''My favorite player growing up was Kevin Garnett and he's now my least favorite player. ''-Joakim Noah

by SoulEater7 on Nov 22, 2009 10:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Definitely

a little delusional.

by Fridge72 on Nov 22, 2009 10:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

....

sometimes i dont think lovie is actually watching the game….

by bearsfan87 on Nov 22, 2009 10:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Fire Turner tomorrow.

Or someone. Bench Kreutz. Do something. Send a message. Cutler was a swing and a miss tonight. Cutler apologists step up. If Orton or Grossman had the game Cutler had tonight you’d all crucify them. Make your excuses now. Tell me how the wide receivers sucked when they got wide open. Tell me how the o line blew it when they allowed him a pocket. Blame it on Turner and I’m on board but sooner or later we have to look at Cutler OBJECTIVELY and not as fans smitten with the idea that he’ll solve all our problems. Cutler could be the real deal, but this year he isn’t. He needs to develop and Turner needs to take time to give him time. Ultimately we should fire Angelo for fixating on the QB position while ignoring everything else about the offense.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Nov 22, 2009 10:54 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Actually

I thought Turner called a pretty good game. He called the plays that should’ve been TDs (Olsen’s drop, and over throws to Hester and Knox).

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 22, 2009 10:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

OK then lets face facts.

Cutlers not getting it done. What conclusion can we draw from that? Fire Angelo, that’s what.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Nov 22, 2009 11:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Turner did call his best game of the season...

and I was impressed that the Bears didn’t go max protect all game. But much like every other game, the Bears are so inconsistent it doesn’t often add up to a win. This is on Lovie and why I say Lovie’s got to go!!

When you find yourself in a hole, STOP DIGGING!!!

by LostInSTL on Nov 22, 2009 11:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

propheteer

Granted, he did call a few good plays, but something is missing, and it’;s not all on the players.

"Chance favors the prepared mind." - Pasteur

by Maelvampyre on Nov 22, 2009 11:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

There's certainly more than one reason

why the Bears are terrible.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 22, 2009 11:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

see your point but...

We all at one point did give those guys that much leeway and they had the same issues…. bad OC. On the plays Cutler didnt overthrow someone, Turner called some awful plays. the issue with rex was that he had like 3 seasons to learn the offense and he did to an extent but the offense is just terrible to begin with and orton can not stretch the field and he is proving to be the same qb in denver as he was here. but i do agree that angelo is a royal screw up and not giving cutler help on O. Even Peyton Manning couldn’t be great behind this line and with these weapons. to be honest I think Olsen is over rated and he’s proving it. but turner is not and has never been the answer. Angelo needs to have the balls to tell Lovie that this team is no longer a run first team and Lovie needs to deal with it. get a coordinator who can knows how to work with offensive talent.

by frenchbears113 on Nov 22, 2009 11:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Cutler is at fault...

but it has alot to do with Cutler not getting the guidance and mentoring that he needs. He needs a strong leader to keep him in check. He needs a coach that plays to strength, not trying to put a square peg into a round peg.

That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.

by Ditkavsworld

by gaclaudy on Nov 23, 2009 6:13 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

charles tillman played his ass off

3 forced fumbles in one game? are you serious? he stopped drives by him self! and the offense could muster on td? i cant beleive turner didnt give the ball more to bell. aside from the big run he was hitting the holes hard and gaining positive yards and they waited till the end of the game to start using rb screens. i personally hate ron turners play calling and use of the players. Cutler deserves some blame he was WAY WAY WAY OFF tonight i can never recall him even back in denver missing recievers left and right. the last one to knox hurt the most because that might have been all the defense needed to fire them up for one more stop.
damn man

by Bear Lovin 21 on Nov 22, 2009 10:54 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

DA was MIA.

But hey at least I got to see Hester’s hairy ass.

''My favorite player growing up was Kevin Garnett and he's now my least favorite player. ''-Joakim Noah

by SoulEater7 on Nov 22, 2009 10:55 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

it wasn't just the crack

it was the whole nine yards!

''My favorite player growing up was Kevin Garnett and he's now my least favorite player. ''-Joakim Noah

by SoulEater7 on Nov 22, 2009 11:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

'Til tonight...

Cutler has been the only bright spot on the offense. Cutler lost this game with his lack of fundamental footwork. However, I cannot blame him, the O-line is still pretty bad. All in all, the Bears played well tonight. Notice how Graham is better than Bowman, he should start. D Manning is a terrible FS. Harris just sucks. Start A Adams and Harrison next week. G Adams is awful. LOVIE HAS TO GO. Bell needs to start and bring in Forte on 3rd down. Didn’t miss G Wolfe at all! Olsen is not an elite TE, but he has trade value! Knox needs to better read coverage, but he has better upside on offense than Hester. NO MORE BUBBLE SCREENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Replace Hester with DA and let Hester concentrate on KR duties. Kreutz is just old and bad. Notice the blocked FG was because of Omiyale!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When you find yourself in a hole, STOP DIGGING!!!

by LostInSTL on Nov 22, 2009 10:55 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Definitely liked

Khalil Bell. He hits the hole hard and looks like he would be better on first and second downs. I’ve always thought that Forte was more of a 3rd down back.

by Fridge72 on Nov 22, 2009 11:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

YES!

''My favorite player growing up was Kevin Garnett and he's now my least favorite player. ''-Joakim Noah

by SoulEater7 on Nov 22, 2009 11:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Fantastic effort....

and exactly what the Bears need on offense; a guy who hits the hole and gets yards after contact. I like Forte, but he is too patient sometimes. I noted that Al and Chris said Lovie was excited about Bell’s practice, but not sure if it would translate to the game. Tell’s me everything I need to know about Lovie; he has NO eye for talent.

When you find yourself in a hole, STOP DIGGING!!!

by LostInSTL on Nov 22, 2009 11:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Bell seems pretty good

Forte patience is part of what makes him so good. Our line just unfortunatly will never open a hole no matter how long you wait…

by GtM on Nov 22, 2009 11:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Patience is good for draw plays...

on third and forever and screens on 2nd and forever. It makes for really bad 1st and 2nd down I-formation runs.

When you find yourself in a hole, STOP DIGGING!!!

by LostInSTL on Nov 22, 2009 11:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yup,

Forte is not that great at hitting the hole and driving forward. It’s like he gets happy feet, or dances sometimes. He is tall too for a RB which raises his center of gravity. One of the reasons I think he is so good in the passing game is because he looks like he is built more like a WR than a RB.

by Fridge72 on Nov 22, 2009 11:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Forte hit it hard last year

Makes me wonder what he did in the off season

He looks weak this year

by TheMan1 on Nov 22, 2009 11:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

he hits the hole hard

but he waits for holes to develop. not that different from last year. its just this year, there are no holes. bell is a different style of runner, one that actually is better for our crappy line. patient runners can’t succeed behind this sorry lot of linemen.

by guy incognito on Nov 22, 2009 11:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Did Cutler step into any throws?

It seems to me that he was throwing off back his back foot almost all night, minus the TD pass to K. Davis.

That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.

by Ditkavsworld

by gaclaudy on Nov 23, 2009 6:15 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hester provided the most dramatic highlight

but the ref tackling Forte was a big play too

by WarWolf on Nov 22, 2009 10:55 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

One bright spot:

Zackary Bowman. He is a beast.

by GouldisGold on Nov 22, 2009 10:56 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

By not covering anyone??....

start Graham, at least he can tackle!

When you find yourself in a hole, STOP DIGGING!!!

by LostInSTL on Nov 22, 2009 10:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He just had his fourth interception tonight.

by GouldisGold on Nov 22, 2009 10:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

One good play in coverage doesn't...

make up for 5 missed tackles by my count. I do agree he has the skills and John Hoake(sp.) is useless. However, Bowman did not play well other than his INT.

When you find yourself in a hole, STOP DIGGING!!!

by LostInSTL on Nov 22, 2009 11:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Bowman plays too far off his receiver

and then still backpedals. Get him to be a bit more physical and then I’ll really like him.

by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Nov 23, 2009 1:43 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Bears fans...

…Colts fan here. Not to make fun or gloat. Actually quite the opposite. I was doing laundry with my lady (i’m hardcore like that) and she asked me about Devin Hester. Of course, as a Colts fan, one single play immediately jumped to mind. I don’t think I have to remind anyone what that play is. Anyway, tough luck on the QB situation. Hope Cutler actually begins to live up to all his hype one day. I’d like to see the Bears get back to the good ole’ 2006 days.

by IBelieve1237 on Nov 22, 2009 10:58 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Nice job

of contributing absolutely nothing to this thread.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 22, 2009 11:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice job...

of being a total punk. I wasn’t gloating. I was reminscing about when the Bears were kick ass and fun to watch. The 2006 Arizona comeback is still one of the best games I’ve ever seen.

Chill out. Are you that shallow?

by IBelieve1237 on Nov 22, 2009 11:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

he's from Denver

''My favorite player growing up was Kevin Garnett and he's now my least favorite player. ''-Joakim Noah

by SoulEater7 on Nov 22, 2009 11:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No problem

but what die-hard fan likes a sympathy post?

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 22, 2009 11:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Fine

Your team sucks on a level never seen before.

by IBelieve1237 on Nov 23, 2009 12:43 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

dude?

''My favorite player growing up was Kevin Garnett and he's now my least favorite player. ''-Joakim Noah

by SoulEater7 on Nov 22, 2009 11:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

she asked me about Devin Hester. Of course, as a Colts fan, one single play immediately jumped to mind

The one where he bared his backside to the nation?

"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy

by Spongie on Nov 23, 2009 2:06 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The Bears are not good

Oh, Bears. Another painful game.

Offense: Extremely painful. Play calling bad. Cutler was very nervous. The Bears are destroying a legitimate talent. Surprised they replayed the Hester “moon.” Who is that Khalil kid?

Defense: Too many long gains. Tillman was a beast. Has Gaines Adams registered a tackle? Still gave up 24 pts.

Overall: Too many penalties. Running game is a joke. Need better coaching…

by Bears Fan? on Nov 22, 2009 11:00 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

a Haiku?

That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.

by Ditkavsworld

by gaclaudy on Nov 23, 2009 6:17 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Another positive:

Harris played well. Maybe he’ll return next year after all.

by GouldisGold on Nov 22, 2009 11:02 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

They said before the season this is huge for Lovie and his future.

Well I think we know his future isn’t as the Bears coach.

''My favorite player growing up was Kevin Garnett and he's now my least favorite player. ''-Joakim Noah

by SoulEater7 on Nov 22, 2009 11:02 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

no.

''My favorite player growing up was Kevin Garnett and he's now my least favorite player. ''-Joakim Noah

by SoulEater7 on Nov 22, 2009 11:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

McNabb and Cutler

At the end of the game they talked closely for awhile. Kudos to Donovan of trying to talk some sense into him. Jay needs a mentor more than anyone in sports.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 22, 2009 11:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

He needs

consistent lineman and a decent OC a lil more tho

by GtM on Nov 22, 2009 11:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

and

the ability not to target Olsen when he’s tripled covered.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 22, 2009 11:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

that too!

by GtM on Nov 22, 2009 11:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

he knows about hard times

McNabb plays for the Eagles. They hated him the moment his name was called in the draft and he just went along his business and got better and better. He knows what it’s like to be ruthlessly criticized and he probably told him to hang in there. The offense in Philly is catered to what McNabb can do as a qb and that’s why he’s been pretty successful. i’m telling you all that once Jay gets the luxury of a coordinator who knows what he’s doing, he’ll be better.

by frenchbears113 on Nov 22, 2009 11:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i think anyone watching chicago knows how bad the offense is being run

you nailed it – even with less-than-stellar talent at times over the years, the eagles’ offense has always been solid-to-good, because they built the offense around mcnabb. cutler can’t even get one of his favorite targets (DA) into the game that often, which is ridiculous. mcnabb was probably saying, don’t blow a gasket, they’ll fire most of these coaches soon, and get you some people and players who know what they’re doing soon.

by guy incognito on Nov 22, 2009 11:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope not
they’ll fire most of these coaches soon, and get you some people and players who know what they’re doing soon.

I don’t think it’s a good idea to make him feel more despondent than he already is. It’s very unlikely McNabb said anything to help foster his already apparent apathetic attitude.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 23, 2009 12:22 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm done with Hester and Olsen!

Never thought I’d say that. Even Forte.

''My favorite player growing up was Kevin Garnett and he's now my least favorite player. ''-Joakim Noah

by SoulEater7 on Nov 22, 2009 11:06 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

i agree

trade them both and get some picks. kellen davis can develop into a solid TE

by frenchbears113 on Nov 22, 2009 11:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

might as well.

''My favorite player growing up was Kevin Garnett and he's now my least favorite player. ''-Joakim Noah

by SoulEater7 on Nov 22, 2009 11:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

For whatever reason...

K Davis plays better than Olsen.

When you find yourself in a hole, STOP DIGGING!!!

by LostInSTL on Nov 22, 2009 11:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

he's bigger

he’s more of a shancoe type of TE where as olsen is more of celek type TE only without the skill

by frenchbears113 on Nov 22, 2009 11:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's harsh...

but ultimately true!

When you find yourself in a hole, STOP DIGGING!!!

by LostInSTL on Nov 22, 2009 11:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think I agree with that,

Olsen really seems to be underachieving. He isn’t really though and that is hard to overlook when he isn’t contributing as the dominate receiver that we thought he was going to become.

by Fridge72 on Nov 22, 2009 11:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

maybe

we should just make him into a receiver only and not have to worry about blocking assignments or anything TE related

by frenchbears113 on Nov 22, 2009 11:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking that before,

I love his size at that position, but he hasn’t really proved that he would be a good receiver yet.

by Fridge72 on Nov 22, 2009 11:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Olsen doesn't have the speed to be a receiver.

He’s fast for a TE(that’s what I hear, thought it doesn’t show on the field), but he’s far too slow as a receiver. I mean, Earl Bennett is a slow receiver, and he’s faster than Olsen.

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

The Bulls shrink like a dick in cold water.

by dakoose on Nov 23, 2009 12:28 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh,

I mostly agree. He would be slow for a WR, but we already use him in that capacity a lot as it is. When we split him out wide he is in effect playing like a WR. I could get over his lack of speed in the position, if he could go up and get a jump ball or fight for extra yards a little harder. Especially considering that we have two burners in Hester and Knox.

We need a good possession receiver with some height and some fight in him on this team.

by Fridge72 on Nov 23, 2009 1:00 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He gets shut down

when he is covered by a corner.

by weasel27 on Nov 23, 2009 8:49 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah,

I agree. Even go so far as to say that if he plays next year the same way that he has played this year. He will be dangerously close to being a bust in my mind. Especially considering how high he was drafted. 31st overall I believe it was.

by Fridge72 on Nov 23, 2009 8:52 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Olsen's 40 time: 4.51

Now to some other recievers on the team:

Bennett: 4.48
Colston: 4.55
Barden, Ramses (Cal Poly) 4.57
Collie, Austin (BYU) 4.55
Iglesias, Juaquin (Oklahoma) 4.51
Massaquoi, Mohamed (Georgia) 4.57
Robiskie, Brian (Ohio State) 4.49

That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.

by Ditkavsworld

by gaclaudy on Nov 23, 2009 6:27 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's why I said what I did in the parenthesis.

If, during games, you see Olsen running as fast as Bennett or Colston, you’re watching different games than I am.

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

The Bulls shrink like a dick in cold water.

by dakoose on Nov 23, 2009 8:09 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No I agree

it’s just I think that maybe he improve his quickness. His speed is fine, he needs to work on getting in and out of this routes better and needs to work on his lateral speed.

That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.

by Ditkavsworld

by gaclaudy on Nov 23, 2009 8:14 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He needs to work

on his ability to catch a football. Then I would like to see him improve his blocking and YAC ability.

His 40 speed at the combine seems competitive. Unfortunately I don’t think his game speed has lived up to the hype. That said, it isn’t his speed that bothers me about Olsen.

by Fridge72 on Nov 23, 2009 8:56 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Definitely

I think he looks like molasses in January after the catch. He dances too much when he needs to turn and run.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 23, 2009 9:49 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Tell me how many games Cutler been "on"? Then back that with some stats.

He has a cannon and I believe once he develops in our system he’ll be a good QB. But this season is an unmitigated disaster and I think at least some of the blame should fall on “the trade”. We ignored too many weaknesses while we “fixated” on the QB. Now we’re ruining his confidence (as evidenced by his “safe” plays tonight) while giving him little to work with in terms of a running game and an offensive coordinator who can actually coordinate an offense. If we don’t do something soon we’ll ruin Cutler for the foreseeable future.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Nov 22, 2009 11:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Is it me or does Cutler not seem like a star QB?

Sure he has the arm to be a star, but to me he doesn’t seem to have the leadership qualities. By leadership qualities, I mean the ability to rally your team together and get everyone on the same page. The ability to take the blame of the loss on himself and not placing blame on others all the while learn from mistakes. I caught some of the press conference post game and he mentioned something along the lines of the offense not having enough time to get comfortable with each other, and that it took them 2 or 3 years in Denver. I don’t think many will disagree with me when I say that Cutler was simply just bad today. I thought the O-Line game him more than enough time to make pass for most of the game. I would just like to see Cutler man up and take the loss on himself.

by aznsensation on Nov 22, 2009 11:08 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

to a point

the oline was ok but did you see that Eagle Rush? They were constantly in his face.

by frenchbears113 on Nov 22, 2009 11:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

they rushed everyone because...

jay couldn’t hit his receivers. They didn’t care if he threw a deep pass because he hit none of them to that point.

by aznsensation on Nov 22, 2009 11:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Jay's was missing them bad

but they were always in the area, and he wasn’t stepping into the throws. I guessing that was cause of all the sacks and hits he has taken this season by our oline

by GtM on Nov 22, 2009 11:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

and

because he got no protection…. and his off the target throws

by frenchbears113 on Nov 22, 2009 11:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Cutler did not play well tonight but...

his struggles are due to the worst o-line in football and a terrible OC!

When you find yourself in a hole, STOP DIGGING!!!

by LostInSTL on Nov 22, 2009 11:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sacrificial lamb time.

Fire Turner. Tomorrow. Or at least Heistand. Something. Soon. We’re ruining Cutler week in and out.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Nov 22, 2009 11:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not bad.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Nov 22, 2009 11:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If the Bears do NOTHING after this....

If I have to hear one more time about how we have a good team but we can’t execute I think I’ll take a long walk off a short plank. Make a MOVE! Do something! YESTERDAY!

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Nov 22, 2009 11:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i agree

"Chance favors the prepared mind." - Pasteur

by Maelvampyre on Nov 22, 2009 11:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

what are our offensive coaches doing?

our receivers almost never come back to the ball. that’s one of the most important things you need to teach them to do. that it is still happening makes me think bears practice on offense (and defense) is club med or something. seriously, unless all our receivers are idiots, our coaches are not in their ears enough about coming back to the ball. given our idiotic coaches, this is not surprising at all.

by guy incognito on Nov 22, 2009 11:14 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I despise

Collinsworth and NBC more than anything in the world. The incompletion to Olsen was not Cutler’s fault. NBC basically threw him under the bus for “snubbing” the pre-game story about his struggles.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 22, 2009 11:14 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

And then after the TD and 2 pt conversion

Collinsworth like Cutler.. albeit briefly… its stupid.

by GtM on Nov 22, 2009 11:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Someone

needs to punch him you-know-where.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 22, 2009 11:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ron Turner's system has killed Cutlers confidence.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.

No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.

by JoeCB1991 on Nov 22, 2009 11:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

why does everyone give cutler so much of the benefit of the doubt...

what has he done with the bears to earn it? I gave him a lot of leeway, but at some point some of the blame needs to go on him. All those interceptions that he’s thrown so far is not Turner’s fault, it’s Cutler’s bad decision making.

by aznsensation on Nov 22, 2009 11:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i agree

Eat. Sleep. Pray. Watch chicago play.

P.S.

You've obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a shit about what you think.

by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 22, 2009 11:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yup,

This loss and the 49er loss, IMO, are strictly on Cutler. I still don’t think that we use him properly all the time.

by Fridge72 on Nov 22, 2009 11:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

because

he has to pick up the slack for a terrible offense. he is the only real weapon on there and the bears have already worn him out

by frenchbears113 on Nov 22, 2009 11:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

i say

fire lovie, bring in Mike Shanahan as the HC, get Charlie Weis as the OC, once Wade Phillips is fired bring him in as the DC and have Jim Zorn as the QB coach. really wishful thinking but what else do i have?

by frenchbears113 on Nov 22, 2009 11:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

umm...

don’t bring in weis, Phillips, or Zorn…are you on drugs or something? If you wanted a coaching staff, i’d say Cowher as head coach, Shanahan as OC, and let Cowher be the DC too.

by aznsensation on Nov 22, 2009 11:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

obviously

you fail to remember dick labeau was what made the steelers d great and zorn made hasselback good

by frenchbears113 on Nov 22, 2009 11:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

oh

and weis as a head coach is horrible but look at the irish offense and what he did with the pats?

by frenchbears113 on Nov 22, 2009 11:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Charlie Weiss,

is a great offensive mind. Unfortunately for him, he looks like he is already living on borrowed time. I just can’t see that man still being alive in 5 years.

by Fridge72 on Nov 22, 2009 11:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It's clear

what’s holding ND back is their defense.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 22, 2009 11:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

they suck?

ok so them putting up about 30 points a game makes them suck right? not it’s not their D who can’t stop anyone right?

by frenchbears113 on Nov 22, 2009 11:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm agreeing with you

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 22, 2009 11:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't mind having

Lovie as the DC and get Shanahan as HC.

by Fridge72 on Nov 22, 2009 11:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

that wouldn't be bad either....

I wonder if Lovie would take a demotion and still get paid as a head coach. It’d be better than just firing him and having to pay him all that money. I wonder if the front office have thought about this.

by aznsensation on Nov 22, 2009 11:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

strange

i actually agree with you on this one. but the issue is that doing something like that would mean that Angelo would have to take blame as well and sadly we all know he won’t

by frenchbears113 on Nov 22, 2009 11:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It would be pretty cool,

Maybe they could work out some kind of weird deal where he became Asst. Head Coach and DC working under his current contract. Then Shanahan could come in and retool the offense. I think you would get Lovie to agree to it before Shanahan would.

I imagine that Shanny would want Lovie out of his way if he were to come to Chicago. Still. I can wish for it all the same.

by Fridge72 on Nov 22, 2009 11:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Won't happen

When have you ever seen a HC take a demotion and stay on the same team?

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 22, 2009 11:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I know,

just day dreaming a little.

by Fridge72 on Nov 22, 2009 11:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not dreaming

just livin’ a nightmare of a season. 4-6 doesn’t seem right.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 22, 2009 11:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah,

guess it does seem more like a nightmare than a dream at this point

by Fridge72 on Nov 22, 2009 11:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Dan Jiggets

is going to have a heart attack on tv one of these days. He looks about as healthy as Charlie Weiss.

by Fridge72 on Nov 22, 2009 11:34 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

They both

look like they’re allergic to exercise. My advice- get on the treadmill and don’t come off until 2011.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 22, 2009 11:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

If you missed it…the Hester moon. The link is SFW…click the little thumbnail pic to see a bigger version.

The power play is still f**king clown shoes

by HappyHuman on Nov 22, 2009 11:52 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

very disturbing

Ugh that season completely sucked but i have so many other things to look forward to. GO BLACKHAWKS! GO BEARS! 2010 WHITE SOX!

by pierzynskirules on Nov 23, 2009 12:11 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey guys

Just got in from pt, another late night game i had to miss because of sleep.

Now i havent seen any highlights yet but from what i’m reading it says a lot about how Cutler was off? So he was getting mad pressure or he wasn’t stepping into throws or were receivers just not making the extra effort? Also, with only 171 yards passing you say..what did our running game look like combined with Forte and Bell is it?

by Chitownproduct on Nov 22, 2009 11:53 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Bell certainly looked pretty good,

Only 4 carries and 81 yards. First carry went for something like 78 or 80 yards. Looked like Beekman and Kruetz sprung him up the middle. He runs hard and with a low center of gravity.

Cutler was off, he blatantly overthrew wide open Knox and Hester for what would have easily been TD’s

by Fridge72 on Nov 22, 2009 11:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Bell

rushed just a few times, but had a long run of 60 yards or so. Forte was ineffective at best, and Cutler just missed having 4 TD passes. The Bears basically gave the game to the Iggles. Olsen dropped a sure TD, while Hester and Knox were overthrown for TDs. That pretty much sums up the game in a nutshell. Oh, and Peanut (no pun intended) forced three fumbles.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 22, 2009 11:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

wow

missed oppurtunities, seems to be the story of our season.

by Chitownproduct on Nov 23, 2009 12:23 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just bummed

Best we can do it 8-8 and I don’t think that’s do-able. Everyone is going to be questioning the Cutler trade but I maintain this is the right move. He’s still good and will improve. The coaching needs to change. Sorry, but it’s bad. If we can’t make it to 8-8 I think everyone’s gone. We clearly have talent.

by GallopingGhost on Nov 23, 2009 12:21 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I am pretty sure

That if the bears go 7-9 or worse then the scapegoat will probably be Turner. The thing that i am interested in though is will that even happen. I mean lets face it, would Lovie get rid of Turner in the last year of his contract without knowing a surefire replacement. That is the only thing that scares me, that we will be stuck with the abyssmal offensive coaching staff because the Bears do not want to go pursue new blood.

Just an honest question though, i know there has been a lot of talk about getting rid of lovie, but what are the chances really that management would step up and get rid of him? I think fairly low.

by Chitownproduct on Nov 23, 2009 2:22 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Chance of getting rid of Lovie in less than 2 years? non existant

Unless Phillips job were in immediate jeopardy. Otherwise the Bears are an organization driven by the bottom line first, winning second. The Season ticket waiting list is stuffed full well past the end date of Angelo and Lovie’s contracts so they can be jettisoned later without affecting ticket sales and without paying 2 salaries for the same position.

IMO of course. But what do I know. :)

by SaintCee on Nov 23, 2009 3:45 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone but me

just happy we weren’t blow out?

We seem to have made it out without any major injuries. 7-9 is still a possibility, respectable end for this season but still enough to clear out some deadwood coaches. St. Louis and Detroit are looking better but we should still be able to win those. I think we can luck into a win in either of the Viking games (by the second game they might be thinking about resting their starters or mailing it in til the playoffs) or against GB who has taken a beating lately. Ravens game they might be playing for a wild card and at home so probably a loss unless the Bears magically improve.

by SaintCee on Nov 23, 2009 3:58 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Nope

both this game and the Niner game were there for the taking. The Bears gave away both of them with a half a dozen missed opportunities or so.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 23, 2009 9:25 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Jay's

Confidence is shot a long time ago,When you have WRs who STOP on 50% of the time crap will happen.And also they are throwing deep now all of a sudden? Why not before this game?

But yeah McNabb with words of wisdom he plays for philly who hated him since Day 1 and loved him and hated him again and back and forth.He knows how it feels to have a shitload of pressure from the city to do well.Jay is a good QB (1st and 3rd overthrow was on him) Olsen should have caught that.

And about body language?No disrespect but who cares?Body language really means nothing.If one on the team said that we are going to lose pk that would be wrong.But body language is flippin overrated.

Jay is good (this game is on him though) But we have absolutely NOTHING from the O-line to the WRs to the Damn coaching.

by T.Moore on Nov 23, 2009 7:02 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

That's up for debate
No disrespect but who cares?Body language really means nothing.If one on the team said that we are going to lose pk that would be wrong.But body language is flippin overrated.

Many therapists, non-therapists, analysts would argue with you on this subject. I agree it’s a bit overrated, but Jay has a bad case of it…and based on his time with Denver he’s always had a problem with the “downers.” He needs a tough-minded OC with a plan to utilize his skills in the best possible way.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 23, 2009 9:29 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not even debate

If your leader – and the QB is the offensive leader – walks out to start a drive with his head down, it might just be because he’s absorbed in his thoughts… but, really, he’s the rallying point for his players and needs to be seen to lead. Anyone who’s played a team sport will recognise how important it is to have someone to focus the team’s energy.

However, I defy anyone to keep chipper with such a huge difference in offensive support cast (especially coaching) between Denver and here.

"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy

by Spongie on Nov 23, 2009 9:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sure

but the way he hangs his head, there’s no way it can be construed as “I have to go through my progressions, and throw to the open man.” He did the same thing while he was in Denver….Marshall, Royal, Clady, Sheffler, etc.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 24, 2009 10:11 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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