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The Problem with Jay Cutler - Part One

I like Jay. I hope he becomes a an all-time great in the Windy City. I really do.

But here’s the problem: (one of them).

After the ‘85 Bears demolished the NFL, no assistant coach was hotter than Buddy Ryan. Norman Braman hired Buddy to coach his Eagles the following season. At the press conference to announce the hiring of Buddy Ryan, Braman introduced Ryan as “the next Vince Lombardi of the National Football League.”

This isn’t a post about the merits of Buddy Ryan. It’s about this: When you introduce your new head coach as the next Vince Lombardi, it makes it awfully hard to criticize him later on. Braman was a car salesman from Florida. Even though he owned the team, who was he (a friggin’ car saleman) to ever criticize Ryan (a life-long football coach and creator of the most devastating defense in NFL history), the man he publicly compared to Vince Lombardi?

Answer? He wasn't anybody capable of criticizing Buddy Ryan.  At least not when it came to the X's & O's of football.

That’s problem #1 with Jay. Last summer it seemed like the only person in North America not in love with Jay Cutler was Josh McDaniels. Everyone else, from sea to shining sea, was opining on how great Cutler was and could be.

It would be pretty hard not to get a big head over that kind of adulation. And I’m sure that Jay Cutler has never been accused of having low self-esteem.

And the problem thus becomes this. How do the Bears (management & coaching staff) criticize the man they went out on a limb and acquired, at such a heavy cost? A man they anointed as ‘Their Saviour.’

Answer? Not easily.

Cutler is often compared (rightfully so) to a young Brett Favre.  The old-time gunslinger masquerading as the modern day NFL QB. I can live with that. Those guys can win you a lot of games (and lose you more than a few along the way).  And they're never boring.  Even if they throw a pick to lose the game, you at least were entertained.

But Favre had Mike Holmgren (and guys like Jon Gruden, Steve Mariucci and Andy Reid, among others), coaching him in Green Bay.

All disciples of Bill Walsh, who was probably the greatest QB coach in NFL history.  Brett was the 'anti-Joe Montana' as Montana was purely a percentage player.  Joe Cool had zero gunslinger in him.  But that's alright.  Holmgren and his staff, schooled in the Bill Walsh/Joe Montana school of QB'ing adapted.  They let Brett be Brett while also helping turn him into more than just a gunslinger.  They helped turn him into a winner.

The Bears have Lovie, Pep and RT.

Not good.

Mike Ditka and Jim McMahon fought like cats & dogs. No problem. They won a Super Bowl together. And in no way did Holmgren and his staff baby and coddle Brett Favre. They too won a Super Bowl.

This is a real bad combination. A QB who has (rightly or wrongly) been anointed as one of the great young QB’s in the game, with a FO that can’t criticize him and a coaching staff that seems unable to ‘coach’em up.’

Not good.

 





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Lets’ make holmgren our GM and Gruden our HC. Ah to live in a perfect world.

by Jhitt81 on Nov 28, 2009 7:05 PM CST reply actions  

pretty good read

should have alternatively titled this caveat emptor

look forward to the rest

by Jenna Talia on Nov 28, 2009 7:20 PM CST reply actions  

you could be right regarding JC

Just as likely not.
Far too many variables in the whole Jay Cutler scenario to consider playing armchair psychologist without enough data, and as John McCain would say, “it is what it is”.
Pure speculation but entertaining reading.
Will be interesting how it all unfolds in the coming months.

"I am not an animal!" - Merrick

by Maelvampyre on Nov 28, 2009 9:45 PM CST reply actions  

You miss the point.

You don’t need to play armchair psychologist to understand this: When everybody is telling you how great you are, when a team (like the Bears) swing an expensive deal to bring you in and tell their fans that you are the ‘missing piece’ that they’ve long been waiting for (like JA saying he’s waited forever for a franchise QB). . . well, then it’s awfully hard to then turn around and criticize you when and if need be.

Especially if your coaches either aren’t ‘mentally tough enough’ or if Cutler doesn’t have enough respect for them.

There’s no speculation here. It’s actually pretty obvious.

by axthelm on Nov 29, 2009 12:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Cutler has a problem???

Would you be saying that right now if he was on the current 2009 Denver team?

I watched all his games last year and I find it hard to believe that the current 2009 Denver Bronco’s wouldnt be at least 7-4 with Cutler as QB.

The 2009 Bronco’s defense has 8 new starters and a completely different 3-4 scheme with Nolan as defensive coach.

A healthy Champ Bailey and Brian Dawkins leading the team in tackles and looking like the FA pickup of the year.

Denver had the ball for one minute less in time of possession coming into week 11 than the Bears did.

Your telling me with Cutler on that team and that stellar defense which is better than the 2007-2008 defense by leaps and bounds that they wouldnt have won at least 7 games so far?

The polar opposite is the Bears team, with the current injury riddled Bears defense and the 3/5 new offensive line that is currently the worst offensive line in football. You really think Orton would have more than 4 wins?

Last year the Bears were 4-6 to start the season and finished 5-1 the last 6 games with Orton throwing for 8 TD—8 INT and AVG 177 yards passing a game. I am guessing your one of the people who thinks Orton is the reason the Bears won 5 of the last 6 games?

You also probably believe Orton is the reason the Bears defense scored 58 points last year opposed to 16 points so far this year and 22 INT last year compared to 10 this year.

Do you blame Cutler for the fact that the Denver defense gave up 30 points or more 9 times last year and 20 points or more 12 times? They gave up 10 points or less ZERO times last year as well.

Do you give Orton credit for the Bronco’s having given up less than 10 points 4 times already this season and 30 or more only twice thus far in 11 games?

by 34hadclass on Nov 28, 2009 11:33 PM CST reply actions  

You really miss the point here.

I said absolutely nothing (good or bad) about Cutler’s abilities and play, both in Chicago or in Denver.

Please read my response to Maelvampyre above.

All I was saying is that it’s awfully hard to criticize someone you’ve annointed as the next great QB in NFL history.

It’s like a guy who relentlessly pursues a stunning woman who he believes he really has no shot with. To his surprise one day she marries him.

It’s pretty hard to then go and tell that woman “Honey, you’re not the greatest cook in the world.”
Really. He’s probably going to choke down his dinner while reminding himself how lucky he is to have married such a stunning woman.

(For the record I like Cutler, am glad the Bears have him and agree with much of what you say).

That said, I was talking about something completely different. Please reread my post to understand why.

by axthelm on Nov 29, 2009 12:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Get the facts straight

The Bears were never 4-6 last year.
Cutler has difficulty playing under pressure:
Cutler has been sacked on 4.9 percent of his dropbacks. There are 22 quarterbacks who have started the majority of their team’s games who have been sacked on a greater percentage. Among them are Favre, Rivers, McNabb, Roethlisberger, Carson Palmer and Joe Flacco. It is possible for a quarterback to avoid sacks but still get hit an inordinate amount of times. But that does not appear to be the case with Cutler either. In fact, Cutler has been hit at a lesser rate than the other quarterbacks in the NFC North — once every 7.1 attempts excluding sacks. Lions quarterbacks have been hit once every 6.6 attempts, Favre 6.3 and Rodgers 5.7. What we can determine is Cutler is not accustomed to all the pressure. Last year with the Broncos, he was sacked only 11 times. Thirty quarterbacks were sacked more.
So if Cutler’s performance has been inordinately affected by pressure, it may have more to do with Cutler than his blockers.
Remember that McDaniels didn’t want Cutler, because of important things like decision making and his track record of poorly protecting the football. Also, a high percentage of his passing yardage in 2008, came against defenses that were protecting leads and playing prevent defense schemes. This is similar to the game this year against the Cardinals. Enough with the excuses for Cutler. Orton did a great job in 2008 and played several games on a severely sprained ankle. He’s doing a great job in 2009 and has played hurt(finger/ankle) in over half of the Broncos’ games. Again, it’s time to stop making excuses for Cutler. He has played terrible this season.

by rocko1 on Nov 29, 2009 8:39 AM CST up reply actions  

I Hate it when...

we look only at the statistics to explain EVERYTHING. You’ve seen the games personally. What have you seen? Jay-Cut being pressured from every which way. Here are areas where I disagree with the notion that Jay does bad under pressure.
-EVERY QB does worse under pressure.
-Most of those other guys you mentioned have time in the pocket. If a QB has lots of time in the pocket, but want to hold onto the ball a few more seconds waiting for a receiver to get open then gets hit after letting it go, that doesn’t mean he has less time. The # of hits per drop back stat is misleading for that reason. My best friend is a Ravens flag. Trust me, Flacco’s line gives him way better protection.
-Most of those other teams have good running games. Which means that those QBs have at least a few snaps per series where they can play action. Play action gives the qb extra time, and gets receivers open by freezing defenders. Jay can’t do that, so all our defenders are draped by defenders.
-A better running game also means less mental pressure on the QB. Look, all the pressure for sucess is on Jay right now, and he can’t rely on the running game to shoulder the load, or a Brandon Marshall type to go-up-and-get-it. Which means in order for us to win, he has to be PERFECT. Kinda hard to do, no matter who you are.

by ChiLobo#23 on Nov 29, 2009 5:32 PM CST up reply actions  

I think the Broncos would have a better record with Cutler right now.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.

No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.

by JoeCB1991 on Nov 29, 2009 10:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Axthelm

A good post and I agree that coaching has been a big issue with the Bears this year. It might be a little premature to compare Cutler with a young Favre however. Brett won the MVP in his fourth season. Right now, I see more similarities with a young Jeff George.

by rocko1 on Nov 29, 2009 8:46 AM CST reply actions  

Good point

Bears coaches stink because they cannot lead – with the possible exception of Rod Marinelli.

And Cutler, like the rest of the team, is basically coaching himself and making a lot of his own adjustments.

"Yes, risk taking is inherently failure-prone. Otherwise, it would be called sure-thing-taking." - Jim McMahon

by JimmyMack on Nov 29, 2009 12:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks rocko1

My only point of comparison with regards to Favre is that both have cannons for arms and they both have a gunslinger mentality.

That would be it mainly.

And (unfortunately) you are correct. Just having people mention Jay Cutler and Jeff George in the same sentence isn’t good. Isn’t good at all.

by axthelm on Nov 29, 2009 12:39 PM CST up reply actions  

honestly....

if cutler was still in Denver they probably would be 9-2 or 10-1….their defense is better and that was their hold back last year….no offense to Orton (love the guy ever since we signed him) but he is more of a game manager but hey thats working out for him….Cutler just needs to relax, i feel like the whole pressure of winning is on his shoulders,…i see him playing better next year maybe depending on the off season if there are any changes in coaching and players….speaking of off season this upcoming one isn’t going to be pretty…we got a terrible defense and offense….we need a whole revamp…be nice to see the bears get some high caliber guys in the mix or some veterans, look at the saints defense they have tons of vets on their defense and they dominate…love sharper, his hits on Monday were amazing….another thing we need are playmakers….hester just doesn’t do it on offense, put him back on returns…i think their will be plenty of people to get this off season i just think the bears need to be aggressive and go after them otherwise trading for cutler is just a waste given the fact his supporting team is lacking…..

by bearsfan87 on Dec 1, 2009 7:53 PM CST reply actions  

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