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Bears Fall to Cardinals 41-21

The Bears offense showed signs of life late in the game, but it was too little too late.  Not that they played poorly early, things just didn't go their way.  A no call on a pass interference and a should have been a no call on a holding stalled Bears drives.  Cutler had his best game statistically today, throwing for 369 and 3 TDs.

The defense stunk out loud for the first half allowing the Cardinals 28 points in the first half, which is hard even for a great team to come back from.  Tommie Harris played great one play and then put on his moron helmet and got himself ejected for the rest of the game.  Then Al Afalava and Charles Tillman both hit the showers early.  The Bears defense has a hard enough time stopping teams without having to deal with this many people being out.  

More Stats:

Greg Olsen: 5 receptions for 71 yards and 3 Tds

Matt Forte: 5 carries for 33 yards, 6 receptions for 74  yards

Devin Hester: 6 receptions for 94 yards

Earl Bennett: 7 receptions for 93 yards

Danieal Manning: 12 tackles

Hunter Hillenmeyer: 11 tackles

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Rough game

Not much else needs to be said.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.

No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.

by JoeCB1991 on Nov 8, 2009 3:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Of course the day

the Bucs decide to man up and take down the Pack we can’t take advantage of it.

Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!

by Adam T on Nov 8, 2009 3:22 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

This review isn't scathing enough

the only reason the Bears came back was because the Cardinals let up. The Cardinals could have scored 50 if they wanted. This team played awful today.

by Basketball Smurf on Nov 8, 2009 3:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

true

100% true.

what did the bears do after they made the scare? got shut the fuck down.

not a good team.

by mike b on Nov 8, 2009 3:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

at least

our passing game was lights out. i’m sensing a trend when tommie is out. we get stomped. maybe he’s worth a lot more than we think.

olsen had his breakout game.

front four sucks. i don’t know why we haven’t seen what gaines adams can do yet.

by Nih1lus on Nov 8, 2009 3:24 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

seriously thank you

the two games the bears have demolished tommie harris has been out. it is obvious that as much as people dont like him or think he is overpaid or overrated he is important to this defense with him not in the middle we are getting gashed and getting gashed BAD. the defense needs to step it up outside of briggs and harris and tillman on occasion we need more playmakers

Olsen had a great day will happy for him. Jay did great as well people need to commend his toughness he has been abused SO BAD this year it is sad the freaking browns sacked him four times when he has time he has made the plays.

Is it just me or where there bad ass calls today? they missed an obvious def pass interference on olsen and a few on knox and hester and those were plays which would have kept DRIVES going. damn zebras

by Bear Lovin 21 on Nov 8, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

had a chance

cutler should learn to throw the ball away when we have some kind of chance.he lets it fly like someone named bret used to do thats why lovie had his #. i cringe about playing the vikes the first game in minny o lord

by sicj on Nov 8, 2009 3:57 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Cant blame Cutler he did what he can do.

The defense (or lack there of) Sucked.

by T.Moore on Nov 8, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

But we don’t mind when he completes those “should-be” throwaways. Gotta take the good with the bad. I blame the bad (the one pick) on a lack of chemistry with Bennett (no, 4 years ago at Vandy doesn’t necessarily count as chemistry).

by byebluemonday on Nov 8, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well

It was 4 years ago.Hes doing well but he makes mental mistakes

by T.Moore on Nov 8, 2009 4:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

manage the game

if he used his head we may of had a chance

by sicj on Nov 8, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

“manage the game”…shudder. Go out there and take the game by the throat and win it. Turner manages the game, not Cutler.

by byebluemonday on Nov 8, 2009 4:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

ok

then turner should have gone with orton

by sicj on Nov 8, 2009 4:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Cutler threw to spot

Bennett stopped during the route twice. Not saying he would have caught it but he would have been right there if he kept running instead of quiting.

Roach love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!
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by tfrabotta on Nov 8, 2009 5:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We got a better QB,

we have the easiest schedule and we’re 4-4.

by GouldisGold on Nov 8, 2009 3:25 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

not true

the easy schedule is beacause lions were 0-16 and we get them twice

by Bear Lovin 21 on Nov 8, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If you combine

all our 2009 opponents’ 2008 records together, we have the easiest schedule.

by GouldisGold on Nov 8, 2009 3:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i bet it does

lions were 0-16 last year, we played them twice. teams from last season arent the same this year.. bengals the most obvious example

"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH

by Illini0509 on Nov 8, 2009 3:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

the Rams and Browns

count towards that too.

But the rest of the way we have-

San Fran, Philly, Minnesota, St Louis, Green Bay, Minnesota, Baltimore, Detroit.

a combined record of (so far this year) 32-30. Some tough teams, sure, but the season’s not over until its over.

San Diego was 4-8 at one point last year, and they made the playoffs (and had a good run).

Never die easy. Why run out of bounds and die easy? Make that Linebacker pay. It carries into all facets of your life. It's okay to lose, to die, but don't die without trying, without giving it your best.- Walter Payton

by Cosmis on Nov 8, 2009 5:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

How many of those teams do you think the Bears will beat?

Best case scenario would be .500. This is not a playoff team and they will not be competing for a playoff spot.

by Acapulco Taco Pie on Nov 8, 2009 5:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

my point

was simply that you can’t rely on 08 records to gauge how difficult a schedule for 09 is

"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH

by Illini0509 on Nov 8, 2009 5:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If you combine all our 2009 opponents' 2009 records

You see we’re facing a schedule that is currently .480 (62-65, Pitt game remaining tonight), both those we’ve played and those yet to play. If you look at last year’s records, you’ll see those “same” teams were .406 (103-149-2). The teams we’re playing are considerably better than what they were last year.

I don’t have the time to run the numbers right now, but I’d be willing to bet our schedule has one of the biggest “paper quality” (08 results) to “actual quality” (09 results) increases across the NFL.

by torch on Nov 9, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Tampa 2

I am 100% sure that the cover 2 is not going to work without a stud MLB like we had when the season started, and like They had down in tampa. Without Urlacher QB’s are going to pick the Defense apart all year. Especially the good ones like Kurt Warner.

by Metz on Nov 8, 2009 3:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

bs

lovie after the game we can fix this lovie if you were a judge you couldn`t fix a parking ticket
cutler got a penelty because your sleepy ass won`t complain about b#llsh#t calls i swear hockerface and his crew are on the arizona payroll our recievers were getting mugged all day and you sit with a smile on your face take all your buddies and leave
at least with the teams in the past {abe gibron era } at least teams limped out of town and knew they were in a game

this is the biggest pile of steaming crap i have seen in 55 years of watching my bears
you are an embaressment to this city

by mactealc on Nov 8, 2009 3:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I have been behind the organization and the coaching staff but this is 2 out of the last 3 that this team has not come out ready to play. It is apparant that they have tuned Lovie out. Therefore, as much as I am against throwing committed money out the window – I say you have to seriously look at Cowher and/or an up and comer that is the new trend in the NFL. But, I am done with the effort, I am done with the lack of run game, I am done with Ron Turner, I am done with the sunshine and rainbows Lovie is selling.

by poolboy55 on Nov 8, 2009 3:46 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

time to clean house

if the bears played anyone else last week we would be on a roll of blowouts.( im disgusted.) i cant believe we play this shitttty.cover who’ thats a joke we need a coach with a backbone no love for lovie.

by sicj on Nov 8, 2009 3:51 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

At least the Packers lost.

And they were playing against an 0-7 team, the Bears lost to the previous NFC Champs.

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No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.

by JoeCB1991 on Nov 8, 2009 3:56 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I don't care who they are playing,

This is the 2nd time in the past three weeks our defense gave up 40+ points.

by GouldisGold on Nov 8, 2009 3:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just trying to stay positive.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.

No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.

by JoeCB1991 on Nov 8, 2009 3:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I appreciate the positivity.

But I’m tired of comparing ourselves to the Packers. I know is was Lovie’s #1 priority when he took the job. But now we need to move on and maybe just try to stay competitive on any given Sunday.

by byebluemonday on Nov 8, 2009 4:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We got the 49ers Thursday

We should win. I realize that the Bears always start off by losing so well next game if we win the toss we should recieve 1st ad try to play with the lead for once

by BEARSFAN19 on Nov 8, 2009 4:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Niners aren't chumps

Colts had to use a trick play to beat them.

by Salty on Nov 8, 2009 4:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

True

But the Bears have a better chance of beating teams with a strong defense and weak offense more than a team with strong offense

by BEARSFAN19 on Nov 8, 2009 4:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

How have the Bears looked on the road this season?

They could barely beat a bad Seneca Wallace-led Seahawks team on the road. No reason to believe they can beat the 49ers on short rest at SanFran.

by Acapulco Taco Pie on Nov 8, 2009 5:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

not only that

but alex smith, with Crabtree… not looking to bad, oh and Vernon Davis too. we will be lucky to not get blown out there as well

"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what make them the biggest guys on the field." -Madden

by BearNecessities on Nov 8, 2009 5:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You guys have to think positive

I know the Bears havent played good but I know we can beat the Niners well have to see how serious Tillman’s and Afalava’s injuries are

by BEARSFAN19 on Nov 8, 2009 5:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I wasn't trying to be negative just realistic.

Of course, I hope they can win at SF, I just doubt it. I can also envision Gore running all over this defense.

by Acapulco Taco Pie on Nov 8, 2009 5:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

what's this we shit

and no, no one has to think any way, let alone positive. make assesment based on facts and data, not what you want to happen.

by mike b on Nov 8, 2009 5:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

this is the same team

that beat the Steelers, right? I know we play much, much worse on the road, but the game should at least be competitive.

Never die easy. Why run out of bounds and die easy? Make that Linebacker pay. It carries into all facets of your life. It's okay to lose, to die, but don't die without trying, without giving it your best.- Walter Payton

by Cosmis on Nov 8, 2009 5:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No, it's not the same team that beat the Steelers.

The Bears weaknesses have been exposed. After what the Bears have shown the last 3 games you should be able to see they aren’t the same team that beat the Steelers.

by Acapulco Taco Pie on Nov 8, 2009 5:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

and saying we “beat” the steelers AND seahawks, is all relative, if their kickers didnt miss, they would have won, and they outplayed us all game.

"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what make them the biggest guys on the field." -Madden

by BearNecessities on Nov 8, 2009 5:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

On the bright side, if we keep losing, we should be able to nail a stud O-lineman in the 1st or 2nd round next year to help protect Cutler

Oh, wait…

"Yes, risk taking is inherently failure-prone. Otherwise, it would be called sure-thing-taking." - Jim McMahon

by JimmyMack on Nov 8, 2009 8:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

the bears

should win against the rams and lions and maybe the 9ers. every other team on their schedule could roll them, and i don’t mean that in the asinine “any given sunday” way.

by mike b on Nov 8, 2009 4:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think parity dictates that you get 24-17 victories by heavy underdogs. Dispensing of parity and coaching your team down to another level means you will get rolled.

by byebluemonday on Nov 8, 2009 4:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

why should we win? it no doubt won't be a blowout

because their offense isn’t as good as the Cardinals or Bengals. But they will move the ball on us and we will be extremely banged up

by Basketball Smurf on Nov 8, 2009 4:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Their offensive line is banged up

and Alex Smith is their QB what worries me is Frank Gore but hey we have stopped Turner so i think we might be able to stop Gore

by BEARSFAN19 on Nov 8, 2009 4:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We can stop turner

But we cant stop Chris “Beanie” Wells and Tim Hightower?

by T.Moore on Nov 8, 2009 5:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

nope

"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what make them the biggest guys on the field." -Madden

by BearNecessities on Nov 8, 2009 5:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

assuming we dont lose

Tommie for a week for his punching routine..it is going to be a rough season regardless

Bring back our honey bears...sick and tired of hearing about the dallas cowboy cheerleaders and the bars they go work at when they quit. cold weather + cheerleaders in skimpy outfits = lots of fun

by tomh115 on Nov 8, 2009 6:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

no positivty

at this point i fell the bears will lose direction

by sicj on Nov 8, 2009 4:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

um, Tommie Harris's "great play" was not that great

he was completetly unblocked and still didn’t get there before Warner released the ball.

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by DC Cubbie on Nov 8, 2009 4:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

i miss the man in the middle

without urlacher we look lost no leadership and briggs got all his scrapps

by sicj on Nov 8, 2009 4:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thankyou

for mentioning that. the line adjusted for a fake blitz and left tommie wasn’t accounted for. and like you said, still couldn’t sack an immobile qb like warner

by GtM on Nov 8, 2009 8:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

we still need tommie

for every game. it might be painful to say, but our d is better when he’s out there. i’m going to go drink some whiskey.

by Sound_Automatic on Nov 8, 2009 4:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Well Tommie is going to suspended for that stupid move of his.

Another week without him, oh goodie!

That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.

by Ditkavsworld

by gaclaudy on Nov 8, 2009 4:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't crown the Vikings division champs just yet.

Remember how awful Farve was down the stretch last year? So do I.

by GouldisGold on Nov 8, 2009 4:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Money says Only Turner and Offensive coaches will change next year.

I just can’t see the Bears cutting Lovie lose considering he’s still owed at least $10m over the next 2 season. And if, Lovie goes that means Angelo will definitely follow since Jerry pick this coach and he’s also owed a nice chuck of change as well. OMG.

But Turner is a terrible coach. He had one good season in Chicago and sent Illinois into the gutter. When Earl Bennett’s (and rest of the cast) set of scrambling rules consist of stopping and trying to shadow Cutler instead of running a pre-determine route. That puts Cutler in harms way because he doesn’t know what direction his receivers are headed to next. So Cutler has to further diagnose the coverage while a 300lb defender is barring down on him.

Nevertheless, the lack of teaching of this staff that doesn’t school their receivers to run to the ball or keep running through their routes is high school level coaching in my opinion.

But I will keep praying and wishing the Bears ownership gets a sudden case of the Steinbrenner cut these bunch of clowns and bring in a proven head coach like Cowher who’s message never sour during his tender in Pittsburgh.

Believe me the Bears fans will pay for a good product.

by Soloistic on Nov 8, 2009 4:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Scrambling Rules

TURNER IF YOUR SCRAMBLING RULES ARE SHADOW THE CUTLER, DON’T YOU THINK DEFENDERS ARE FOLLOWING HIS EVERY MOVE AS WELL? IF YOU TRUELY BREAK OFF THE ROUTE TO A PRE-DETERMINE ROUTE LIKE BENGAL WR CHRIS HENRY DID ON BOWDEN THIS OFFENSE WOULD HAVE BETTER SUCCESS.

by Soloistic on Nov 8, 2009 4:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Ownership should Fire Lovie Smith and pay him shoot its chump change for them the Bears Franchise so they have to spend and stop being so uptight

by BEARSFAN19 on Nov 8, 2009 4:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Immediate reaction

Defense was horrendous at nearly every position.

Offensive Line wasn’t bad, other than Kreutz mental errors.

Receivers played good, but reverted to cutting off their routes.

I want Shanahan in 2010.

Olson, surprised me in a good way.

by rdent4hof on Nov 8, 2009 4:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Careful what you wish for.

Maybe Cowher is a better fit for the Bears. Shanahan has been stale for the last 3+ years. Cohwer will solve all the Bears woes (coaching/GM), and will be a better personnel man than Shanahan.

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"EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY!!!"

by Zogernaut on Nov 8, 2009 7:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd be fine with Cohwer.

Not sure who I would prefer between the two…

by rdent4hof on Nov 9, 2009 8:25 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The Bears are the very definition

of an average NFL team. When you look at thier statistical rankings, they are always near the middle of the pack in almost every category.

by GouldisGold on Nov 8, 2009 4:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

This is completely off-topic,

but I just got back from St. Louis for a conference and I was downtown (Washington Ave.) and went to this nice little deli. The owner was a Bears fan and was super nice. He gave suggestions on where to go (and told us the shady spots we should stay away from). So if you’re ever in downtown St. Louis, go to the Savory Deli – good prices, food, and owner! :)

On topic note, AH!! That game was sad. I didn’t get it here in Muncie bc the Colts were playing, but I listened to it. The one time Tommie is healthy enough to play, he screws himself over… just…. sad.

"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton

by HoneyBear on Nov 8, 2009 4:45 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

VIKINGS GAME

as I think of how bad this team is right now. it hurts me to imagine the hurt the Vikings will put on the Bears with their balance attack. AP might have 280 yrds rushing.

Bright side of lopsided loses against the Bengals and now Cards and then Vikings 2x is ownership will be force to rebuild this team or lose the fan base next year upon the announcement of bring Angelo and Lovie and his staff back for another season.

I just hope they don’t get cheap because of dead money that will be on the books from letting go the GM and coaching staff and they opt for a cheaper option like a Raheem Mooris or something.

by Soloistic on Nov 8, 2009 4:55 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

the vikings

will absolutely destroy the bears. unlike other years where the bears have shown up to those games and played better than they were on paper, that will not happen.

by mike b on Nov 8, 2009 5:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

make assesment based on facts and data, not what you wantthink will happen.

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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 8, 2009 5:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

the vikings will absolutely destroy the bears

Not a fact (yet). Just an opinion.

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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 8, 2009 7:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

eye roll

thats true, the bears haven’t not won the super bowl yet this year either.

we should stop saying that they won’t. sort of defeats the purpose of every non game thread post, but hey.

by mike b on Nov 8, 2009 7:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't get mad at me, they are your words.

You told someone they couldn’t make an assesment unless they based it on facts. So you can’t say they will be destroyed by the Vikes. Maybe they will be maybe they won’t.

We are a .500 team with lots of deficiencies, that’s what we know. We don’t know how they will play the Vikes, we’ll just have to wait and see on that.

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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 8, 2009 7:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

mad at you?

we don’t have a personal relationship where i have an emotional reaction to your written words.

the vikings will destroy the bears. i have no problem contradicting myself to point out the shit that this team is.

by mike b on Nov 8, 2009 7:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Figure of speech
i have no problem contradicting myself to point out the shit that this team is.

Ok. Fair enough.

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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 8, 2009 7:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

P.S.

Rolling your eyes is a physical reaction based on your emotions.

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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 8, 2009 7:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That - Is - Powerful!

Roach love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!
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by tfrabotta on Nov 8, 2009 10:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

nah. really?

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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 8, 2009 10:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

DON'T BLAME TOMMIE

Tommie Harris and the rest of Defense wallets are so heavy with the extension and new contract money that it is hard to concentrate on two things at once. Like how to pimp out your ride and watch film of the Bengals offense. Or dress for Jerry Azumha GQ moment or make sure your decorator is custom fitting the 50 new flat screen TVs than game planning to contain Cedric Benson. Their so much these guys have to think about than worry about playing a childish games like football. geeish. If you had as much money as these guys the football is a 2nd thought. I won’t how Cowher and Bilicheck keep their guys forcus. But it has to be hard.

by Soloistic on Nov 8, 2009 5:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

They scored on their 1st six possessions...

Because we couldn’t stop them at all… just as I predicted in the game preview.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Nov 8, 2009 5:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Offensive Line

actually played decent today and if we werent in the hole right away I think we would have had success running the ball. Pass protection was improved and cutler had time plenty. Forte actually played very hard today like the forte of last year. On defense it is a disaster. It starts with the line, Again we have zero pressure. I am done with the Marinelli experiment. I don’t think they ran one stunt or twist all day. We just run right into the lineman and stop. Our blitzes are the worst, they blitz up the middle right into the guard and he engulfs them. Zero pressure means disaster in this scheme becuase our safeties are terrible and I am done with Tillman. That second TD to Fitz he was nowhere to be found. How do you let that guy open like that. And here is the most empty stat in the book Hillenmeyer 11 tackles. Horrible. Over 160 yards rushing against us. Every freakin tackle that guy makes is at least 5 yards downfield. He does not attack, he sits in the middle of the field and waits for tthe action to come to him. Disgusting.

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by tfrabotta on Nov 8, 2009 5:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

He had time most of the game and wasn't hurried alot

rewatch the tape..we even ran the ball well when we attempted it

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by tfrabotta on Nov 8, 2009 5:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We only ran the ball well...

because we ran so few times, that Arizona was playing the pass all game. Forte had 5 carries. Peterson had 2.

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by SackMan on Nov 8, 2009 5:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You can say that

But in the limited times we ran it in the first half or in obvious run downs we gained at least 4 yards. I believe we would have had success if the defense didn’t create such a lobsided game up front.

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by tfrabotta on Nov 8, 2009 5:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Oy.

We ran the ball 7 times all game! Our first 7 plays were passes, and then we finally ran for 4 yards on our 8th play… during the second possession. Of course there should’ve been room to run at that point… the Cardinals were defending the pass, because that’s all we were doing.

Don’t get dooped into thinking we can suddenly run the ball effectively. We stink.

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by SackMan on Nov 8, 2009 6:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

In addition the Cards were more concerned with defending the pass than the run because they had a lead.

The Cards didn’t have to stop the run but I’m sure they could have if they and when they needed to.

by Acapulco Taco Pie on Nov 8, 2009 6:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

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by SackMan on Nov 8, 2009 6:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

no basis to your assumption

just your opinion…

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by tfrabotta on Nov 8, 2009 6:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

the cards camme into the game

with what? the 5th ranked run d? come on..

by GtM on Nov 8, 2009 9:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't understand your reply

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by tfrabotta on Nov 8, 2009 10:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

that the cards could have stopped the run

the basis is they are ranked 4th against the run. the stopped everyone but a crappy game against carolina. the is no reason to think that if we ran half of the time, that they wouldnt have completely shut down our 28th ranked run offense

by GtM on Nov 8, 2009 10:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe..

Becuase the only 2 decent run offenses they have played have been Carolina and the giants. Carolina shredded them and the giants ran well but had t othrow due to them trailing. The other power run games they have played are SF, Jax, Indy, Sea, and the powerful Texan run game..Stats are deceiving. So no, your arguement holds no water it is just an assumption.

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by tfrabotta on Nov 8, 2009 10:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

stats can be but you also have to get them

Jax is the 7th ranked rushing offense, they ave 140 yards a game. they held mjd to 66 yards on 13 carries. Giants are number 8 the held them under their ave too. jacobs got a third of his yards on one carry. take away his one 25 yard run and he only ran for 50 on them. the cards were trailing in that game too.
Yeah stats can be deceiving but its not week two. there is half a season under the belt. most teams have an identity and the cards d has theirs. Its stout run defense.

by GtM on Nov 8, 2009 11:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Whatever helps you sleep better

Jax, Indy, Gmen all averaged over 5 YPC. Jax,Houston, Sea, and Giants had to limit their carries because they all were trailing and had to throw to get back in the game and Indy throws all the time anyway. So Jacobs had a 25 yard run out of his 76 yards? Should we take away all the runs over 10 yards?? Take that away he still averaged over 4 ypc. They are not as impressive as their ranking. But slant it anyway you want. When teams wanted to run the ball agasint them they did. Their best game was the first game against SF

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by tfrabotta on Nov 8, 2009 11:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry don't mean for that to sound

a little rude. Bad Bears game, bad fantasy game, bad weekend…

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by tfrabotta on Nov 8, 2009 11:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

dont be sorry

we both suffered a bad game. i dont play ff but i empathize with ya if you do.

i dunno bout the jax game but the giants game was back and forth till the fourth quarter.

maybe the zona run d wont end as the best or even in the top ten, but they arent bad at defending against the run. and no i wasn’t saying that we should take away all runs over 10 yards, i was just pointing out a fact.

their run d even if they slide is still stout as compared to our o-lines ability to run block. every team we have played has shown us that. its why we rank so low. sure maybe we rank a lil higher if our d could have slowed down cincy and zona, but it was hard watching forte run against the browns. thats all i was sayin i think.

by GtM on Nov 9, 2009 1:17 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Why would the cardinals give up on defending the pass

on our second possession up 14-7? I agree it is a limited scope to judge but I thought they were actually jelling much better.

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by tfrabotta on Nov 8, 2009 6:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Cutler was sacked 4 times and hit at least 9 other times.

He was flushed out of the pocket and threw on the run many, many other times. His protection was not good.

by Acapulco Taco Pie on Nov 8, 2009 6:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

2 sacks for 10 plus yards

were due to him holding onto the ball too long. One was with 58 seconds left int he game. How many times did we see him throw on the run today? Maybe once, you make it sound like he was running for his life..I am not saying that the OLine was fantastice, I am saying there was great improvement over the past few games..

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by tfrabotta on Nov 8, 2009 6:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He was running for his life many plays.

You obviously weren’t paying attention if you thought he was sitting back in the pocket with plenty of time to throw. He had to run out of bounds more than once as well. His receivers weren’t getting open or there were D-linemen in his face thus making him “hold the ball too long.”

by Acapulco Taco Pie on Nov 8, 2009 6:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If his wr aren't open and he has to hold the ball

how is that the Oline’s fault??

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by tfrabotta on Nov 8, 2009 7:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Reviewed the tape

Scrambled for a gain when no one was open in the first half, created a sack in the first half when he ran outside instead of stepping up in the pocket. Had pressure on one were he rolled right and threw a bad pass. Took a sack that was on the line in Q3. So up until 5 minutes left in the game the line had three plays of broken pass protection, one scramble out of the pocket due to coverage, and one sack that he had caused. Not sure where all this pressure is you are claiming but I think you need to review the tape. Three pressures on his first 41 pass attempt. I think that is pretty good protection.

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by tfrabotta on Nov 8, 2009 7:26 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

+2

Powerlifter powerful.

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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 8, 2009 8:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

wish I knew how to paste a photo

I had a great one..

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by tfrabotta on Nov 9, 2009 8:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What i dont understand

is we finally had some daylight running, and we just abandoned it.

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by BearNecessities on Nov 8, 2009 5:30 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Down 28-7 will do that to you

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by tfrabotta on Nov 8, 2009 5:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

A powerful assesment.

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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 8, 2009 5:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

we left the run far behind, well before that

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by BearNecessities on Nov 8, 2009 6:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

no

it does you no good when they march down the field on your defense every possession.

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by tfrabotta on Nov 8, 2009 6:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I am agreeing with you

Just becuase we controlled the clock by running successfully means they may have only scored 5 times in a row instead of 6.

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by tfrabotta on Nov 8, 2009 6:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Again... as above to another post.

The success in the run game was deceiving. The Cardinals were playing the pass on our handful of run attempts. We only attempted 7 runs from our RBs (Forte and Peterson).

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by SackMan on Nov 8, 2009 5:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Looking for the silver lining.

All I can come up with is that It’s Football Season!! Yay! and, more importantly, that God still loves us, even us Bears fans.

My favorite play of the game was when Robbie Gould pulled a puma-swipe tackle on the guy returning his tipped FG attempt. Go Robbie! Saved a TD just then.

May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.

by juperee on Nov 8, 2009 5:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

how was that your favorite play?

I like dthat Robbie did it, but I hated that he had to. Five guys missed open tackles on DRC then. That was pitiful.

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by Cosmis on Nov 8, 2009 5:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm talking about silver linings here.

I too hated that he had to do it, but loved that he did do it. At least he didn’t show any “give up”. Anytime a player shows persistence, it will rub off on the others.

Yes, it’s a bad sign that that was my fave play. But thems the facts.

May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.

by juperee on Nov 8, 2009 5:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I like it.

We need some silver lining. I was a little grouchy when I was on here last, partially bc everyone is saying it’s the end of the world. So thanks for raising my spirits a little. :)

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You haven't heard have you?

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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 8, 2009 7:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Barack can recruit Jahri Evans and Marcus McNeil for us. That would be awesome.

by GouldisGold on Nov 8, 2009 5:54 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I can't believe some of the blind optimism here

Blaming the refs? Missing Harris?

As some of the more astute posters have pointed out this is a mediocre at best roster. Combine that with a coach who will not hold his players accountable and this is what you get. Last years team stumbled dpown the sttetch and played uninspired football when they had a playoff birth on the line. That’s the definition of a team that is just punching the clock and that has defined the post Super Bowl Lovie Smith era

by Duck99 on Nov 8, 2009 5:55 PM CST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Some members of this team deserved to be benched after allowing

the Cardinals to drive down the field at will.

That’s the second time in 3 weeks that a team has scored TDs on their first 4 possessions against us.

Part of that is crappy coaching, and part of that is crappy players. You can’t bench the coach, so bench the player.

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by SackMan on Nov 8, 2009 6:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

They had more yards rushing (Ariz)

in the first half then they have for the enitre year.

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by tfrabotta on Nov 8, 2009 6:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This is the result of piss poor drafting.

And average (at best) coaching.

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by SackMan on Nov 8, 2009 6:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Right on brotha..

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by tfrabotta on Nov 8, 2009 6:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed about the refs

They were terrible but it had no outcome in the loss of this game. When you let the other team score on it’s first 6 possessions you know that your defense and Head coach did not come to play.

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by tfrabotta on Nov 8, 2009 6:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The refs did miss calls this game but

It didn’t matter though.It starts with the coaching.Our CBs NEVER jam their WRs until the 4th quarter they always play about 15 yards away from the WRs, i blame Lovie on that cause he KEPT doing it even though that it wasn’t going to work,same with Turner.The offense isnt the problem for the 1st time in a long time.But Lovie should be gone i defended him but I can’t keep defending him.And Turner should get kicked out of the town.We dont have yop flight talent on our team but its enough to not get blown out twice and at least make the wildcard.We may have injuries but the staff mostly NEVER adjust to the other team we do the SAME THING EVERY GAME.We have the worst coaching staff in the NFL.

by T.Moore on Nov 8, 2009 6:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Its better than

Playing off 20 yards of them allowing them to throw short passes.And give the D line at least SOME time to have some king of pressure

by T.Moore on Nov 8, 2009 6:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The Cards weren't killing the Bears underneath.

Had the Bears consistently jammed Fitzgerald and Breaston at the line it’s very likely the Bears would have given up even more TDs.

by Acapulco Taco Pie on Nov 8, 2009 6:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

True but

Most teams were killing us with short passes look at the superbowl back then it happened back then until they set us up with a long pass and caught them off guard

by T.Moore on Nov 8, 2009 6:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The defense in a cover 2 got this the team to a Super Bowl with a crappy offense.

How did the defense carry a team to the Super Bowl if the Cover-2 was so terrible? It doesn’t help your argument to bring up the SB. Manning gave up a deep pass because he blew the coverage, had he played the scheme properly he wouldn’t have gotten beaten deep. Again, that was a personnel issue not a scheme issue.

by Acapulco Taco Pie on Nov 8, 2009 6:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

True but

Ron Rivera and Lovie was together back then.I think that both of them together are great but for some reason decided not to bring him back he added something more than what we had. But afterwards and combination of angelo not worring about the D and not doing good in the draft, well this happened.Now we seem to be predictable and soft the saying goes that the players reflect their coach.And they just seem soft.Its on the players dont get me wrong. but also on the coach as well for saying that “I didnt get the team ready to play” I appreaciate him for taking the fall but if thats true then he should on hot water.And angelo who can be decent should be gone and get someone who can bring in some fresh talent.

by T.Moore on Nov 8, 2009 6:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What player have they added to improve their D since the SB?

The Bears best players have gotten older thus less effective. Angelo needed to add to the defense and he hasn’t. They have needed safeties every year and he can’t seem to find any. Are Urlacher and Tommie Harris soft? No. They’ve been weakened by injuries and age. The young players that have been brought in are bad. Soft is irrelevant when your talent has declining skills.

by Acapulco Taco Pie on Nov 8, 2009 6:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

How is softness irrelevant

I call what i see they look soft/bad to me today.Im saying as a team they are soft/bad with the exception.Of Briggs,and Urlacher.injuries have slown Harris but he doesn’t seem to be trying as hard as he did before he gotten that extension.He can still be an effective player (when he tries to be) sometimes he seem to feel that he has nothing to prove.Until people called him out on it and seems to be trying to get back to that form until that dumbass move that got him kicked out of the game uncalled for.He can still be effective but he doesn’t seem to try as hard as he use too.But yes injuries did slow him down but shouldn’t to the point when he just became bench player.

by T.Moore on Nov 8, 2009 7:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Memo:Bears
staff and entire organization , somebody that makes a difference better be pissed!!!! It get’s worse defensively as the weeks go by, if there is another post game “we can fix this” with absolutely no emotion or conviction then stop by the office on your way home and pick up your severance pay. The guys on Fox pregame were being really kind when saying the Bears are a team “in progress”. No need to keep up with the pipe dreams, very average ,very uninspired as Duck99 says…their toast this year and unless they got a fat “check book” or Angelo has something on somebody, hard to see where the help is coming from

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by fin4bears on Nov 8, 2009 6:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

How much more...

bad execution, poor alignment, and mindless frustration does it take to demonstrate that Lovie has lost this team. I won’t say"I told you so" because being right or wrong doesn’t change the facts. The Bears are terrible on defense. What is Lovie’s biggest job; defensive coordinator. If I were this bad at my job I would not only have been fired, but they would’ve sought back pay as compensation. But just like big business CEOs, failure has no price. This is win-win for Lovie, he gets the cash either way and the Bears spiral into “rebuilding” mode.

Kudos to Greg Olsen for his first game of the season. About 7 weeks late, but better late than never. Cutler is one of the only true men on this roster. And for once, Harris probably did the right thing, gave a shit for longer than 3 plays! The offense is shaping up but the lack of a legitimate #1 WR shows. Hester and Bennett could make a great compliment #2 and #3 to a real WR, but they’ll do for now. Can we also finally agree that Forte is playing better and that Beekman is an actual NFL guard. The offense seems to show improvement, but this defense gets worse each week. Injuries happen to all teams and I put the blame squarely on Lovie.

My trick play of the year-Fire Lovie tomorrow and promote Turner to HC. The D couldn’t get worse and might get better and Turner could let the offensive staff call the plays. Then fire the entire staff at the end of the year; win-win.

When you find yourself in a hole, STOP DIGGING!!!

by LostInSTL on Nov 8, 2009 6:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Oh god

please not turner ANYONE but him

by T.Moore on Nov 8, 2009 6:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Do you really think the coaching can fix poor personnel?

The offensive lines and defensive lines are considerably less talented than every team that’s beaten the Bears. The defensive line can’t get pressure up front and it’s even worse when they don’t have Harris on the field. I don’t think the coaches are great by any means but you can’t expect them to turn chicken crap into chicken salad. This bowl of suck is on Angelo more than anyone.

by Acapulco Taco Pie on Nov 8, 2009 6:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Coaching is part of it but

Angelo is a decent GM but he neglected the O-line in a big way.Good at later rounds but again HE forgot about the O-line bad move on his part.But the Coaching has to do with it as well help them do something good anything.I mean look at James Harrison he was cut about 4 times and now hes a beast.

by T.Moore on Nov 8, 2009 6:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

When you consistently miss in the first 3 rounds you hamstring your team and that's what Jerry has done.

You bring up the O-line and neglect to realize that Jerry thought Omiyale would be a good addition. He was even worse than what we already had. Angelo’s drafts have left this team with bad lines, bad safeties, no number 1 or 2 receiver and weak depth.

by Acapulco Taco Pie on Nov 8, 2009 6:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Angelo was "fixated"

with fixing a position that wasn’t broken in the offseason. Most of the obvious weaknesses in 2008, weren’t addressed. The defense stunk up the NFL in 2008 and nothing has changed this year. The OL has been a problem since 2007.

by rocko1 on Nov 8, 2009 6:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Im not worried about the WRs for the most part they are doing nicely although they need to make plays for themselves when Cutler in trouble.

But why should we think that a RT can be a good LG right away most of the time that will never work.Hester is a good #2 WR hes doing well Bennett is not bad either Knox is doing nice but is struggling the past 2 weeks.The offense except for the (running game and pass protection) is not bad. Angelo does have some good drafts but lately he is starting to suck.We need a pass rush to do something with the Tampa 2 without the pass rush its easy to figure out with our secondary which he should have look at free agency and find a some decent safties that can make plays.Problem is that we thrive on takeaways and when we cant get the takeaways we are usually in trouble.

by T.Moore on Nov 8, 2009 6:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Mostly agree with what you're saying

I think Hester has proven himself as a #1. He’s on track to have over 1000 yards receiving, which is pretty much the bench-mark for a #1 receiver in the NFL.

Too bad, Lovie won’t be going anywhere, soon. He’s got a contract that will pay him $11 million over the next 2 years, and I don’t see the McCaskeys as having the balls to fire him and eat that cash – no matter how much bull he gives us about “it’s going to be okay” and “we can fix this.”

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by JimmyMack on Nov 8, 2009 8:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Matt Forte: 5 carries -WTF IS THIS S***T Maybe someone should go up and give Ron Rurner a smack right across the face, maybe it’s gonna make him wake up and find out the offense is 3D, not all dropback passes. Not that it really helps when your defense get trampled over for a score 90% of the time the other team takes the field. Honestly, the Bears’ can’t get anything going on both sides.

by GriggsBriggs on Nov 8, 2009 6:11 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Why are we bitching about Turner????????

Jesus..OUR DEFENSE GAVE UP 6 SCORES IN A ROW!!!!!!!!!!!! What do you think the bigger problem is?? Start worrying about the defense..

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by tfrabotta on Nov 8, 2009 6:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well

Cutler has been taking a beating all year.Its on the O-line and turner for not adjusting.BUT the D is a big problem but I think its just the tampa 2 thats the problem.The passes ALWAYS goes down the middle which its weakness.So thats on lovie he needs to abandon that scheme cause its not working but he won’t too damn stubborn.

by T.Moore on Nov 8, 2009 6:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The cover 2 is horrible

and Lovie can’t call any sort of creative blitz, I can call every time they are going to Blitz and that shouldn’t be happening

by DaHamsta on Nov 8, 2009 6:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Any scheme is horrible if the players can't make plays

People who don’t care don’t respond, and people who do care do respond. Does that make sense Bronco fans trying to validate the trade?

by propheteer on Nov 8, 2009 9:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Its most likey a combination of the 2

D-line cant get pressure DBs aren’t that good put that together with a scheme for a good QB that can be easy for him to figure out means we are in trouble.

by T.Moore on Nov 8, 2009 6:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

So what scheme works well with a bad line and bad safeties?

I’m not waving the big foam finger for the cover-2 but the personnel is the problem.

by Acapulco Taco Pie on Nov 8, 2009 6:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We need

More speed on the CBs and Safties.At least move tillman at saftey since he lacks ideal speed and since he can strip and hit should be a better FS.But its too late for that now.But the scheme still is too simple to figure out.But im starting to agree with you though.

by T.Moore on Nov 8, 2009 6:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve got to say it’s a combo of both…

by GriggsBriggs on Nov 9, 2009 9:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Contrary to popular belief

The Bears didn’t play the cover 2 today. They played man to man to go against Fitzgerald and got burned.

by Dils on Nov 8, 2009 7:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Mighta' got by

with the " Tampa to end zone" defense one more year had Urlacher not broke his wrist. I was wishin’ they’d scrap it prior to this season, but Smith obviously is goin’ to ride that bad boy right outa’ town. Dont have the personnel for it anymore and the league is all over it…..move on or move over Smith and the rest of your clowns p(.Indented paragraph

"most football players are temperamental, thats 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental" Doug Plank

by fin4bears on Nov 8, 2009 6:39 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

What happened to the run?

I realize the “D” is giving up a ton of points, but, what the hell happened to Forte?

by Easy Ed on Nov 8, 2009 6:45 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

They were down 28-7

Cant run at that point

by T.Moore on Nov 8, 2009 6:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

well, that’s a combination of poor play on defense and lack of 1st downs on offense

by GriggsBriggs on Nov 9, 2009 9:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I was bashing Urlacher before he was injured

but I retract..God I miss him..

Roach love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!
- "Original WCG Power Poster!"

by tfrabotta on Nov 8, 2009 6:46 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Not so

good with the paragraph thing, dont seem to fully understand…. Gee, maybe the Headshed will bring me on board, I guess I qualify

"most football players are temperamental, thats 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental" Doug Plank

by fin4bears on Nov 8, 2009 6:46 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Bears

Season’s over!! If there was still a glimmer of hope for this team before today’s game, it’s gone now. Half way through the season and 4-4 just isn’t going to cut it. The Vikings are the 2nd best team in the NFC behind the Saints and the Bears still have to play them twice. I don’t think any team on the schedule is a gimme. The Bears record doesn’t indicate the team they are. They should be 2-6 if it wasn’t for the 4 missed FGs against Steelers and Seahawks and I think that’s more indicative of the 2009 Bears.

by McRipper on Nov 8, 2009 6:57 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Why don't we, at the end of the season (or as soon as trades are allowed)

jettison our core players from defense and look ahead to the draft and next season? I think the offense plus a couple of new lineman and another playmaker would hold its own, and at this point a complete facelift on defense might not be a bad thing. See what players/picks we can get for Harris, Urlacher, Hillenmeyer, TIllman, Brown, Wale, Payne, Vasher, and maybe even one of the Adams (How is Gaines close to being worth a second round pick so far?). As long as we retain Afalava, Harrison, Briggs and Bowman, I’m fine with trading anyone else starting on D.

by dmnw2013 on Nov 8, 2009 7:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Going by recent history...

…we ditch our guys and replace them with even worse players.

"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy

by Spongie on Nov 8, 2009 7:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not much

First, Wale will be a unrestricted FA, while Harris, Hillenmeyer, and Payner have virtually no value. The rest would yield the bare minimum as far as draft picks are concerned.

People who don’t care don’t respond, and people who do care do respond. Does that make sense Bronco fans trying to validate the trade?

by propheteer on Nov 8, 2009 9:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Bowman isn’t that great, he’s mistimed many jumps this season that could have been easy interceptions

by GriggsBriggs on Nov 9, 2009 9:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The Bears were down 31-7 at half

Remember Lovie decided for a long FG instead of going for the first down and/or TD? Stupid move considering the defense had no intention of stopping their offense.

People who don’t care don’t respond, and people who do care do respond. Does that make sense Bronco fans trying to validate the trade?

by propheteer on Nov 8, 2009 9:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

he was going for

guaranteed points to put on the scoreboard so he could be positive at the end of the half.

by GtM on Nov 8, 2009 9:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's part of the problem

This train of thought has to go cause it’s not reasonable considering the circumstances. When getting blown out, one must adapt and attempt to score as many points as possible because the likelihood of a comeback is rare.

People who don’t care don’t respond, and people who do care do respond. Does that make sense Bronco fans trying to validate the trade?

by propheteer on Nov 8, 2009 9:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i agree thats part of the problem

Part of me wants to think that lovie was just trying to put points on the board so the blowout wouldnt look as bad for him.
I want to think that he is just a conservative defensive coach that wanted a high note at half.

Lovie doesn’t have much of a killer instinct for offense (not that he should being D) but he should be a good enough HC to know that he doesn’t and let the offense do its thing.

by GtM on Nov 8, 2009 9:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If you would have told me we'd lose 41-21 to the Cards

I would have thought that the offense turned it over multiple times and that the defense, being gassed, gave up loads of points and some big plays. But no, the receivers played really solidly and the Bears turned it over only once! This one is all on the D. I can’t believe it! I listened to the game on the radio and Thayer and Joniak were in agreement that the way you beat the Cardinals is by running the ball and keeping their offense off the field. Turner abandoned the run super early, again, but I can’t necessarily say that was the problem. Yeah I would have liked to see them run it more early, but Cutler had a good game.

by GallopingGhost on Nov 9, 2009 12:30 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

WTF RON TURNER!!!

Ever heard of the RUN… you know.. there was a time when the ball was NEVER THROWN… the forward pass was brought t5o the game as another option.. not THE ONLY ONE!!!! I’m am so FRIGGIN frustrated with the offensive play calling… I’m willing to deal with the D just not being that great this year but with about 9 out of 11 starters being 2nd and 3rd strungers int makes since… but WHY AREN’T WE RUNNING THE FRIGGIN BALL!!!! Here’s a quote from Chalktalk on ChicagoBears.com…

“The Bears currently rank 20th in the NFL in total yards. In Ron Turner’s previous eight seasons as offensive coordinator, the Chicago offense finished 29th, 15th, 27th and 26th from 2005-08 and 28th, 23rd, 9th and 21st in his first stint from 1993-96.”

SO WHY IS THIS MAN THE OC STILL!!!!!! I’m just so utterly frustrated!!!!

GO BEARS!!!!

by ChiTownSounds on Nov 9, 2009 12:30 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Exactly. That’s the way to come back from 31-7 down.

"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy

by Spongie on Nov 9, 2009 8:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Dude...

we ran the ball exactly 3 times in the 1st half! 3 TIMES!!! ONCE in the 1st quarter alone JUST before the end of the quarter!!! 3 DESIGNED runs!!! I’m not counting the Hester End Around that LOST us 10 yards and Jay’s scramble!!! I’m not talking about running more when were down!! I’m talking about the total abandonment of the run game ALL TOGETHER!!! Sure… in the 2 games that we were down by the large margins your talking about.. I wasn’t mad that it was mostly pass plays at the end!! But DUDE… Matt Forte was 65% of our total offense last season. Get him the friggin ball!!! It’s seems all the passes are DEEP or over 10 yards… Maybe thats cause Cutler doesnt like to check down, but this is friggin CRAZY!!!

GO BEARS!!!!

by ChiTownSounds on Nov 10, 2009 2:44 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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