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Injury Update Thread

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We have some injury news for y'all:

- Garrett Wolfe is hospitalized with a lacerated kidney. He'll be fine, but unfortunately, he's out two to four weeks. 

- Al Afalava re-injured the shoulder he injured during training camp. He's getting an MRI today.

- Charles Tillman also re-injured the shoulder that he's had two surgeries on in four years. However, he has been cleared for the 49ers game.

We'll continue updating this throughout the day. Make sure to let us know of any updates!

UPDATE:  In his press conference today, Lovie Smith said that Tillman would be good to go this week, but was pretty vague about Kevin Payne (back) and Al Afalava (shoulder).  With Lovie not saying much now, it is likely that we won't know anything until Wednesday or Thursday.

UPDATE:  Al Afalava's injury is not as serious as first reported, and we'll find out if he'll play tomorrow.

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Charles Tillman also re-injured the shoulder that he’s had two surgeries on in four years. However, he has been cleared for the 49ers game.

Prepare to get toasted by a rookie peanut!

People who don’t care don’t respond, and people who do care do respond. Does that make sense Bronco fans trying to validate the trade?

by propheteer on Nov 9, 2009 10:53 AM CST reply actions  

Well Peanut can beat or we can watch someone else get beat

but make no mistake whoever is out there is going to get roasted. The might “D” of the “Monsters of the Midway” are gone. What was that line from “A Christmas Story”? Ralphie’s dad is reading the newspaper and he comments about the the Bears, “The Chicago Bears more like Chimpmunks”.

That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.

by Ditkavsworld

by gaclaudy on Nov 9, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Urlacher (gone for the year)
Pisa (gone for the year)
Dvorchek (gone for the year)
Melton (gone for the year – redshirt injury?)
Afalava (no, not Double-A)
Harris (Is he ever not injured?)
Hillenmeyer (Oft injured and playing injured when he’s “healthy”)
Tillman (same as HH)
• • • • •
Clark (missed some games)
Jones (out for the year)
Peterson (missed some games)
Wolfe (now he’s hurt)

I know injuries are apart of the game, but come on.

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by David Taylor on Nov 9, 2009 11:03 AM CST reply actions  

Most of those guys

are injury prone, so not exactly unexpected. Maybe Urlacher helps the Bears win one extra game this year. The Bears will probably miss the playoffs by two games when everything is said and done.

People who don’t care don’t respond, and people who do care do respond. Does that make sense Bronco fans trying to validate the trade?

by propheteer on Nov 9, 2009 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

I say we put Urlacher back in, just for the hell of it

"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what make them the biggest guys on the field." -Madden

by BearNecessities on Nov 9, 2009 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

forgot to mention sarcasm

"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what make them the biggest guys on the field." -Madden

by BearNecessities on Nov 10, 2009 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

To hell with firing Lovie...

Fire the training staff!

That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.

by Ditkavsworld

by gaclaudy on Nov 9, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Even without the injuries..

this team would not have looked great..I mean i’d rather have urlacher at the helm of the D any day..but can anyone honestly say that would have made our season? This team needs an overhaul badly, as they have shown they are good enough to beat bad teams, but the obvious holes in the cloth show up when teams like the bengals and cardinals put a light up to it..gonna be a long rebuild too considering we have jack crap for draft picks in 2010

by Pretender85 on Nov 9, 2009 11:13 AM CST reply actions  

Ehhh urlacher can cover the middle of the field

hence no touchdown to becht or to fitz

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by Eaten by Bears on Nov 9, 2009 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Not only that

but Urlacher also knows how to set the defense. Which has been a big problem for us since he went down.

by TCBullfrog on Nov 9, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

And he scares Chuck Norris.

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by Spongie on Nov 9, 2009 9:40 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

And with a healthy Pisa

Pisa is a great Linebacker and his injuries this year were not a common occurrence before he came here. Urlacher can cover the field and shore things up a bit but our front 4 and DB’s are just awful. I’m sick to death of Peanut and the D going for strips and not making the tackle. During Beanie’s first long run he bowled over our D because instead of holding him up or even attempting to make the tackle, Peanut was trying to strip the ball out. Even if all our key pieces on D came back and the cover-2 magically worked again, the fact that tackling isn’t being preached during practice nullifies any good defensive effort.

by frenchbears113 on Nov 9, 2009 11:43 AM CST reply actions  

dude don't even start that.

repeat after me…“it’s all the OL’s fault. our running backs are fine.”

by Hatchetm on Nov 9, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

That convo's being had

HERE right now.

Plus, I’m sure we’ll get a couple fan post, a fan shot, mass emailings and some smoke signals sent out about it momentarily.

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by David Taylor on Nov 9, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Scratch that...

Head HERE for the convo.

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Nov 9, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Good question...

Offense: Cutler, Forte, Kreutz, Rashied, Hester, CWilliams

Defense: Briggs, Urlacher, Afalava

STs: Mannelly, Gould

You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.

by Dane Noble on Nov 9, 2009 12:53 PM CST up reply actions  

but i agree with.

cutler,kreutz, briggs, urlacher, gould
I would add
Tillman, alex brown(just cause he doesn’t quit), same for our AP.

by Daseabeez on Nov 9, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Offense: Hester, Cutler and Kreutz

Defense: Urlacher, Briggs, Brown and Tillman

STs: Mannelly, Gould and Ayanbedejo

On the bubble: Knox, Afalava, Williams, Peterson, Garza

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Nov 9, 2009 1:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Good list.

good bubble list too. I think i would put bowman on there. I wouldn’t mind if Mike Brown came back and played his last season for the bears

by Daseabeez on Nov 9, 2009 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind him

retiring as a Bear, but playing his last season for us… I’m not so sure. I think I’d rather permanently fix that position before he’s ready to hang it up.

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Nov 9, 2009 2:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I didn't say he would be starting

You know one of those last year things some players do

by Daseabeez on Nov 9, 2009 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

and then came and coached the DBs

"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what make them the biggest guys on the field." -Madden

by BearNecessities on Nov 10, 2009 11:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Lest we forget this seasons MVP.

Brad Maynard.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Nov 9, 2009 1:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Lest we forget this seasons MVP. Brad Maynard Patrick Mannelly.

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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 9, 2009 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

EVERY season's MVP is Patrick Mannelly

That goes without saying. But Brad is doing some nice things with the football after Mannelly gets it to him and should be considered for recognition

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Nov 9, 2009 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah,

I’d go for that.

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by David Taylor on Nov 9, 2009 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

So then we shall say Co-MVP Maynard.

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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 9, 2009 2:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Very powerfully posted!

Roach love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!
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by tfrabotta on Nov 9, 2009 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

i would add olsen

he’s finally scoring some TDs

"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH

by Illini0509 on Nov 9, 2009 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Larry Johnson

I hate to say this guys, but with Wolf out and only Forte as our Rb I think we might have to pick up larry Johnson, Who was released by the Chiefs today, out of desperation.

by Bears-Bullsfan on Nov 9, 2009 2:28 PM CST reply actions  

DO. NOT. WANT.

That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.

by Ditkavsworld

by gaclaudy on Nov 9, 2009 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

DO. NOT. WANT. and KIND. OF. NEED.

Are two different things. Dont look at him like the running back that he once was, look at him as a stopgap BACKUP RB for the next 8 games and if you dont think we need one with 2 of 4 RBs hurt in house now, then youre mistaken. If Forte or AP go down (which both have already had injury problems this year) then whos gonna be our running back. Henry Melton, oh wait hes on IR, scratch that, and I dont think Briggs wants to be our RB either. You need at LEAST 3 backs on your depth chart, and we are at 2 for maybe the next 4 weeks

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by ANYTIME09 on Nov 9, 2009 7:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Did you forget about this guy...

He had two carries yesterday for 23 yards.

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by David Taylor on Nov 9, 2009 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

That could be taken two ways!

And I wouldn’t argue either.

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by David Taylor on Nov 9, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Lol. Hilarious.

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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 9, 2009 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

ROFL

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by BearNecessities on Nov 10, 2009 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Lets pick up LJ

(under the stipulation he shuts his mouth for the rest of the year or no pay)

Then we can trade him, Lovie, and Tommie Harris for a draft pick. 1st round bonus get a free R Turner thrown in.

by TheMan1 on Nov 9, 2009 2:44 PM CST reply actions  

now you did it

I suggested trying to get LJ a few hours ago and I got lambasted….Please, save yourself the effort, these blog warriors know all and see all, if you post anything SLIGHTLY outrageous and off the wall, you will be brought down to your knees!!! LMAO

Eat. Sleep. Pray. Watch chicago play.

by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 9, 2009 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, you said it yourself

You posted something outrageous. Here’s what you said:

hes (LJ) better than what we have in the back field right now

And I gave you those pesky stats, you got all pissy, and here we are.

I'M A MAN! I'M 23!

by ChiFan13 on Nov 9, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

LJ plays behind a crap line also

But it doesnt matter, maybe forte is the better back, but I was saying pick him up…We picked up that jerkoff from the lions and what has he done? Now we are down to forte and peterson (who is still not 100%). Imagine if forte gets an injury, then where will the RB game be???

Eat. Sleep. Pray. Watch chicago play.

by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 9, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions  

It doesn't matter

We can’t run the ball when we are down 21 points in the first quarter. LJ blows man, get over it

by brands735 on Nov 9, 2009 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

oh believe you me, im over it

im in agreement with you all…..lets just stick to what we got and do a rain dance and just hope we get better…..Oh, and can i just add this, if i hear one more sportsbroadcaster mention that line of “they are who we thought they were”…im going to throw my remote at the tv…..Geez, i can get over things, why cant they?? STOP SAYING THAT ALREADY!!!!!!!!

Eat. Sleep. Pray. Watch chicago play.

by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 9, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

You still aren’t over it

by brands735 on Nov 9, 2009 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

oh and correct me if im wrong

but werent they only down 7 when there was 5 straight pass plays to tie the game at 7? So what you meant to say is, “we cant run the ball……Period” right?

Eat. Sleep. Pray. Watch chicago play.

by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 9, 2009 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

We say "O-Line needs to improve"

You hear “We’re fine with a sub-par HB output and not doing anything to improve it.”

Improving the position itself isn’t everything. Sometimes you need to improve the surrounding pieces first – the O-Line has regressed and it isn’t exactly something that can be automatically improved mid-season. Regardless if LJ is better or not, the O-Line won’t magically be perfect for him to run.

by Steven Schweickert on Nov 9, 2009 3:57 PM CST up reply actions  

well said

and i dont think with LJ we will suddenly have a great running game, im simply suggesting picking up another RB, what will it hurt? There are no Offensive Lineman out there to get right now is there? So beef up the backfield, even if it is with LJ, whats the big friggen deal?

Eat. Sleep. Pray. Watch chicago play.

by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 9, 2009 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

It will hurt

cause he doesn’t bring anything that Forte doesn’t already. Actually, he doesn’t catch the ball out of the backfield very well at all. Plus, when he doesn’t get enough touches he’ll cause all sorts of rifts amongst the team.

People who don’t care don’t respond, and people who do care do respond. Does that make sense Bronco fans trying to validate the trade?

by propheteer on Nov 9, 2009 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

ok ok

I will never mention that again, you guys win

Eat. Sleep. Pray. Watch chicago play.

by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 9, 2009 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Sounds like a great compromise

by brands735 on Nov 9, 2009 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I kinda agree with you, youre not alone.

Yes there are alot of cons with this guy, and no It wouldnt make a difference if we gave him a trial run for half a season. Its not like the guy is gonna demand big money on the market. And it would be interesting just for the fact that guys have a tough time getting motivated enough to play when they play in a worthless city and that might be the case here (Moss in Oakland), maybe with being cut he realizes its now or never or his NFL career is over, Im sure his career, his money, his life that are all on the line will motivate him to do whatever it takes to run a little harder and shut his mouth a little more.

Who knows and at this point why not. We have already wasted our time with Kevin Jones for 2 years, why not waste a half of a season seeing if this guy could be a complement with Forte. Im up for trying ANYTHING at this point. Next year we are going to need a backup running back, every team has 2 guys, so why not give him a shot. And now with Wolfe out for 2-4 wks, WHY NOT?? Cause if Forte happens to re injure himself what are we left with??? Answer me that. Peterson and thats it!?!??!

You cant just anticipate he does the same with the Bears as he did for the Chiefs, maybe a change of scenery is what the guy needs. Im not saying hes gonna contest for a #1 gig but if we are indeed looking for a backup WHICH WE ARE, then why not go after someone now instead wait till the offseason, and if he works out GREAT you gotta steal, and if he doesnt in the next 8 games WHOOPED DE DOO, cut ties with him. Its low risk, high reward. When you look at his backround, any team that picks him up, he will have to be on his BEST behaivor if expects any kind of money in the future so I dont see him being a “Clubhouse Cancer” for 8 games.

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Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover

by ANYTIME09 on Nov 9, 2009 7:00 PM CST up reply actions  

so is it a consensus

that this season is shot? Is there any1 saying that the bears still have a shot at the playoffs?? Im just curious

Eat. Sleep. Pray. Watch chicago play.

by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 9, 2009 3:30 PM CST reply actions  

Saying it, maybe. Mathematically we're still in the fight.

Believing it however……

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Nov 9, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

IT'S OVA!

It’s been over since the Cincy game.

by boondock_saint812 on Nov 9, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

It’s been over since the Cincy Atlanta game.

"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what make them the biggest guys on the field." -Madden

by BearNecessities on Nov 10, 2009 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

who you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes?

It’s the old defense lawyer’s joke for a hopelessly guilty client – and anyone who’s witnessed this team’s complete breakdown over the past games should join a cult if they honestly believe that they have a shot at the playoffs. Maybe the WeedEater Bowl. And if any local columnists make the comparison with the Cardinals record last year vs. the Bears this year, this town has even worse professional sports commentary than was previously imaginable.

by Waylon on Nov 9, 2009 4:06 PM CST reply actions  

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