NightLink: What Happens to Tommie?
by Dane Noble on Nov 9, 2009 4:00 PM CST
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After seeing our oft-troubled defensive lineman tally another strike against his name yesterday, today we are left with wondering what happens next. Tommie Harris spoke today about his actions against Deuce Lutui.
I was embarrassed, especially for my actions. I apologized to him yesterday, called Larry [Fitzgerald] and had a chance to apologize to him,'' Harris said at his locker this afternoon. "I just wanted to apologize to my fans first off, and the little kids out there that saw that action. I shouldn't have behaved in that manner, and I apologized to my teammates, and I'll make up for it.
Coach Lovie Smith said that he will wait and hear from the league, and that the team would support whatever the league's decision will be.
Typically in situations similar to this, the league will hand out fines. But, the more aggressive acts, like Albert Haynesworth stomping on Andre Gurode, can lead to suspension.
Where do you all stand on this? How should the league and the team deal with Tommie, and what do you think this does as far as Tommie's future with the Bears?
Tommie's contract:
2009: $620,000 (+ $6.67 million roster bonus due 2/27),
2010: $1.235 million (+ $2.5 million roster bonus due in June),
2011: $2.3125 million,
2012: $2.5 million,
2013: Free Agent.
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I would like to see the league issue
a 2 game suspension, and Tommie appeal it down to a 1 game suspension.
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by LPLancer23 on Nov 9, 2009 4:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
id like to see him traded
this offseason for a draft pick or 2..we dont need him or his attitude on the team anymore. he is lazy and just not worth the money we pay him esp if he is just going to get himself ejected and act like this in a game.
Bring back our honey bears...sick and tired of hearing about the dallas cowboy cheerleaders and the bars they go work at when they quit. cold weather + cheerleaders in skimpy outfits = lots of fun
by tomh115 on Nov 9, 2009 4:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not sure how much he's valued
but two picks sounds like a stretch, and his size or lack thereof will prevent teams from acquiring him.
People who don’t care don’t respond, and people who do care do respond. Does that make sense Bronco fans trying to validate the trade?
by propheteer on Nov 9, 2009 4:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
His trade value has got to be incredibly low at this point. The Bears are going to want to keep him on the field as much as possible this year for two reasons:
1- They’ve already paid him the largest part of his money.
2- If we can get a few good games out of him, his trade value will go up.
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by Dane Noble on Nov 9, 2009 4:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Plus
If we keep playing him maybe he’ll either realize his knee situation is permanent and not something that’s going to fix itself if he just rests enough. Then he either mans up or fades away.
Or maybe he’ll just break and we won’t have to worry about him catching on with another team and having a “Harris Bowl” game in the future.
by SaintCee on Nov 9, 2009 11:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Suspend him for a game or two and boot him at the end of the year.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
by ChiFan13 on Nov 9, 2009 4:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
the two games he didn't play we got absolutely destroyed
I wouldn’t want a suspention
by DaHamsta on Nov 9, 2009 4:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
thank you
people dont notice that enough when he is out we get GASHED
im not condoning his actions that should never happen but harris hasnt gotten into trouble like this before cutting him would be stupid in my eyes
by Bear Lovin 21 on Nov 9, 2009 5:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I know it was a cheap shot and I believe getting ejected from the game is enough punishment becausewe need him on the field to have a chance to win
by BEARSFAN19 on Nov 9, 2009 6:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is that just a conincidence?
Or is he really impacting the games that much when he does play?
"Yes, risk taking is inherently failure-prone. Otherwise, it would be called sure-thing-taking." - Jim McMahon
by JimmyMack on Nov 9, 2009 8:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wondered that too...
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
by HoneyBear on Nov 9, 2009 9:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Harris may not make many plays
But his reputation makes the opponents gameplan to stop him and he creates more pressure than our other DT
by BEARSFAN19 on Nov 9, 2009 10:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How the hell are you gonna make up for it
The douche-baggery will continue until morale improves!
Eat. Sleep. Pray. Watch chicago play.
P.S.
You've obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a shit about what you think.
by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 9, 2009 4:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
What are you talking about?
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
by Dane Noble on Nov 9, 2009 4:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Im talking about
tommie and what a douchebag move that was. He said he will make up for it, so Im asking how he figures to do that? Like I said on a diff post, he is one of my fav players on D, but I cant see how he can be a contributing factor by doing stupid things like that. So I dont want to see him suspended since that hurts the team, but I dont know how this sort of stupid behavior can be controlled if he is not happy playing in chicago, which it seems like he is not.
Eat. Sleep. Pray. Watch chicago play.
P.S.
You've obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a shit about what you think.
by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 9, 2009 5:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He sucks anyway
As if we needed any more excuses the show the guy the door.
He’s a very sub-par player, he’s paid pro-bowl level $, he’s a cancer to the team, he’s dumb enough to punch a helmet . . . —> pink-slip his fat ass!!!
by MakeHalasProud on Nov 9, 2009 4:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You cant say the guy sucks
I think he is just not happy playing for the bears anymore
Eat. Sleep. Pray. Watch chicago play.
P.S.
You've obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a shit about what you think.
by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 9, 2009 5:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What the difference?
The guy is all ‘I AIN’T GOT NOTHIN TO PROVE TO NOBODY’ a couple weeks ago, and then he does shit like this getting booted from a vitally important game. In the end, his CONTRIBUTION sucks royale wit cheese anymore, so whether he sucks or not, it’s still the same dif.
Since the Super Bowl year, the guy has really not been the same, IMHO.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
by iowaBear on Nov 9, 2009 7:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
One game at the most
It pains me to have him gone for a game cause the Bears will get thrashed by Gore.
People who don’t care don’t respond, and people who do care do respond. Does that make sense Bronco fans trying to validate the trade?
by propheteer on Nov 9, 2009 4:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Anyone think someone will
give up a first round pick for him???
by GouldisGold on Nov 9, 2009 4:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Never in a 1,000 years
People who don’t care don’t respond, and people who do care do respond. Does that make sense Bronco fans trying to validate the trade?
by propheteer on Nov 9, 2009 4:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well,
Tommie is really good when motivated.
by GouldisGold on Nov 9, 2009 4:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's ok
but not worth the money the Bears gave him. Why would any team give up their 1st rounder when they can draft a younger, healthier, more-motivated player?
People who don’t care don’t respond, and people who do care do respond. Does that make sense Bronco fans trying to validate the trade?
by propheteer on Nov 9, 2009 4:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So what's his motivation then?
Really, I’d like to know what separates ‘motivated Tommy’ from ‘dipshit I AIN’T GOT NOTHIN TO PROVE TO NOBODY Tommy’.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
by iowaBear on Nov 9, 2009 7:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And who's gonna motivate him?
Lovie?
"Yes, risk taking is inherently failure-prone. Otherwise, it would be called sure-thing-taking." - Jim McMahon
by JimmyMack on Nov 9, 2009 8:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
$40,000,000 ?
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
by Spongie on Nov 9, 2009 9:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That would take a miracle
I think we’d probably be lucky to get a third rounder for him.
"Yes, risk taking is inherently failure-prone. Otherwise, it would be called sure-thing-taking." - Jim McMahon
by JimmyMack on Nov 9, 2009 8:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say at least a one game suspension and a fine.
Oh and a swift kick in the nuts.
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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 9, 2009 4:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He should be suspended for a game.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.
by JoeCB1991 on Nov 9, 2009 5:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He'll be suspended for a game
and, his absence will help contribute to another monumental defensive collapse.
Lovie benched him for the Bengals game, and Cinci scored TDs on their first four possessions.
He gets suspended on the fourth play from scrimmage, and the Cardinals score TDs on their first four possessions… and then kick field goals on their 5th and 6th possessions.
There is such a huge void of talent on this team, it’s pathetic.
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by SackMan on Nov 9, 2009 5:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
+1
Eat. Sleep. Pray. Watch chicago play.
P.S.
You've obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a shit about what you think.
by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 9, 2009 5:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Schefter said today that he doubts he will be suspended
hefty fine though.
Roach love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!
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by tfrabotta on Nov 9, 2009 8:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bye bye Tommie
Nice job sucking up millions and basically giving jack squat back in return – kick this sorry man – child’s arse to the curb after this season, I beg you.
by Waylon on Nov 9, 2009 5:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
please no suspension.
Tommie harris is a great player and he still contributes to our defense more then anyone realize… so i dont understand why people want him gone at the end of this year..
by Man G on Nov 9, 2009 6:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
agreed
His production is not just getting to the quarterback, the threat of him is his real value. The fact that teams game plan to take him out makes us tougher to move the ball against, because there are always going to be people out to block him. When he is not there, nobody is worried about our line, because they all suck. So, we get torched, it happens over and over.
by rapdawg on Nov 9, 2009 6:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why are Bears fan asking for a suspension?
That is ridiculous. Why would you want another link on our defense to be severed? Regardless of his drop off in production, the guy still gets doubled and he can collapse the pocket better than anyone who can replace him on our roster. We’re getting killed, our defense sucks and a few of you are asking to get rid of another member of our D? Come on.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Nov 9, 2009 6:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Did this really need to be reported?
Coach Lovie Smith said that he will wait and hear from the league, and that the team would support whatever the league’s decision will be.
What else is he gonna say? Just once I’d like a coach to fire out with a “League schmeague Roger Goodell’s not going to tell me what I can and can’t do with my players. I don’t care what the precious league has to say.”
Just not our coach, and not when it comes to defending the actions of an overpaid idiot.
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by Just Dave on Nov 9, 2009 7:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
LMAO
I think his response was more towards the “We’re not gonna do anything until the league does.” sort of mentality.
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by Dane Noble on Nov 9, 2009 7:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If you ask me
it shows lack of ability to have authority over your own team
by GriggsBriggs on Nov 9, 2009 10:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
should've been released
at the end of last year like i said on this blog. then they could afford to can lovie and angelo too.
by Hatchetm on Nov 9, 2009 7:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wait a minute...
released him at the end of last year? He signed his contract extension in June of last year… so when are you talking about?
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by Dane Noble on Nov 9, 2009 7:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
after the 2008 football season...before the draft maybe.
i said cut harris, urlacher and vasher. absorb the cap hit and move on.
by Hatchetm on Nov 9, 2009 9:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Regardless...
of whether or not it hurts our team in the upcoming game(s), Tommie’s actions deserve punishment.
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by smudgers on Nov 9, 2009 7:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
KO Pick 6
under pressure!!
Roach love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!
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by tfrabotta on Nov 9, 2009 8:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Urlacher is indirectly earning his paycheck
Because of his injury, everyone is finally seeing how much he did for that defense. We can now clearly see how much he did, and how much he meant, as the emotional leader, the director, and the impact that he had on the play of all the players is crazy. Now we see why he gets paid the amount he does…
by Patriotbball5460 on Nov 9, 2009 8:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Here's hoping
he comes back with some crazy fire next season.
by Virto on Nov 9, 2009 9:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Defense has no leader, so no heart
Only people on defense with the skills are Harris (potentially) and Briggs. Harris is Harris so no leader there. Briggs just want to play. Assuming Urlacher makes it through two more years we’ve got that long to find someone to lead the defense after he’s gone.
by SaintCee on Nov 9, 2009 11:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The wrist injury sucks, but I don't think it will contribute
to shortening his career (as long as he doesn’t re-injure it of course). Urlacher’s greatest physical attribute is his speed. Wrist won’t affect that. Hopefully he puts in another good off-season of workouts, and he’s back to “very goodness” next year.
by MuleTrain on Nov 10, 2009 9:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My guess is we pay him regardless?
Not sure how his contract is written but can we just release him? Doubtful. We better hope he sits a game suspension and comes back to have a great rest of the season (also doubtful).
That would raise his trade stock to the highest a dirty shot giving, refusing to practice, “sore” knees, play when I want to, 7th season, 30 year old DT could be.
What’s that a 3rd round pick?
by TheMan1 on Nov 9, 2009 9:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
keep him...
the guy still has an amazing level of talent, and I believe is slowly but surely getting back to that top notch level. Albert Haynesworth bounced back from this kind of incident to be an even better player
by bearsbullscubs21 on Nov 9, 2009 9:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Orton 2 picks
Ouch! gift wrapping game for Steelers..oh but they are not his fault…hahahah
Roach love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!
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by tfrabotta on Nov 9, 2009 10:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I would like to see him gone
what is it with the bears and drafting headcases?
by 815Sox on Nov 9, 2009 10:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Now all we need...
…is Tommie to get caught drinking and waving a gun around on a private boat and we have the Benson Cutting Trifecta Redux.
by SJS_illini on Nov 10, 2009 8:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
According to Troy Aikman
in this morning’s interview on the Mully & Hanley show, he didn’t think Tommie’s presence would have made much difference in the outcome of that game!! If that’s the case, and I think it is, then the league office can suspend Tommie for whatever amount of games they wish & we shouldn’t be much the worse for the experience!!
In my opinion, Tommie’s a head case & we would do well to send him packing & start preparing for the future! Tommie’s not a part of the Bears future!!!
by prbart140 on Nov 9, 2009 10:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Orton 3 picks
and Denver gets their ass handed to them..Guess we won’t be seeing any MHR people tonight..He looked rather Rex Esque!!
Roach love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!
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by tfrabotta on Nov 9, 2009 10:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully this Harris F... up
Makes him change. he said he was going to make up for it hopefully he actually starts playing with heart now and actually cares
by BEARSFAN19 on Nov 9, 2009 10:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
apologizing?? what a crock of shit
he was told to apologize eather by his coach or agent. because he is too stupid to know to do it himself. kind of reminds me of tank johnson, remember him. what this orginization should do is get rid of the problem from the root and that would be the no emotion lifeless and guttless coach. His ego is bigger then the team put together. this team fell apart right when he got rid of Rivera, because he wanted no one better them him. the only guy i feel sorry for is Cutler because this worthless team is making him look like a crash dummy.
by redtribe14 on Nov 9, 2009 11:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
he was told to apologize eather by his coach or agent. because he is too stupid to know to do it himself.
Really? You got a link to that insightful comment?
that would be the no emotion lifeless and guttless coach
Lifeless and gutless? Oh, you are a Bucs fan…
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
by Dane Noble on Nov 10, 2009 7:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone hear Mike Ditkas Take??? Hilarious.............
“I can honestly say Tommie that’s the first time you’ve hit someone all year.’’
Gotta love Da Coach!!!
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Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover
by ANYTIME09 on Nov 9, 2009 11:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hard to believe he's 70 years old.
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by Dane Noble on Nov 10, 2009 9:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And can still whip Chuck Norris' behind.
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by Spongie on Nov 11, 2009 12:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow! Really? Didnt know those were the numbers
I was in favor of cutting him for cap room, but if he’s locked in at those numbers, I’d say keep him or trade him to a team that will give a high pick to get a guy after the other team has already paid the bulk of the contract (like what the Bears did with Gaines Adams).
But anyways, I thought the contract had escalator clauses if he played X number of snaps or made the pro bowl. At this rate, neither is likely to happen. But does anyone know if his contract could numbers could go up, and if so, with the occurence of what events?
by Orval Overall on Nov 10, 2009 11:21 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The numbers listed is base salary and guaranteed bonuses.
He does have some small, performance-based incentives, but they aren’t reflected in these numbers.
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by Dane Noble on Nov 10, 2009 11:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Deuces Tommie
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by BearNecessities on Nov 10, 2009 11:31 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I’m as disgusted and frustrated with Tommie’s disappearance as any other Bears fan out there, but I think calling for a suspension is just heavy-handed.
In fact, i didn’t even think an ejection was warranted.
So he slapped someone upside the helmet? So what? Call 15 yds on him and give him a warning.
It’s FOOTBALL, for funk’ssake. Emotions run high. It’s a violent, passionate game (or, it should be). It’s not like he stomped on someone’s helmet-less head. He jack-slapped ’em in the side of the helmet.
Okay, so the refs chucked him. I thought it was a little bit of overkill—given all the shenanigans that occur in each and every game around the league, every week (ATL & Washington, anyone?), but that was the ref’s perogative to do so (different than, say, Bobby Brown’s).
But now, calling for a suspension ABOVE and beyond the game he was already ejected from?!?!?
We have to take our own personal frustrations with Tommie out of the picture and see the situation in perspective…any further punishment (beyond just a fine) would be complete and total over-righteous, over-reactionary overkill.
The "crime" here is only deserving of the punishment it already received—if that.
by Amishbear on Nov 10, 2009 2:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
What?
He punched a guy, who was laying on the ground, through the face mask. You make it sound as if they were standing beside each other and Tommie gave Lutui a love tap.
Yes, Football’s a violent game but it’s not boxing or the MMA. Players shouldn’t punch other players unsuspectingly in football. What he did was cowardly and very much should be punished. If not by the league, then by the organization.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by smudgers on Nov 10, 2009 2:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
2nd man syndrome
I hear what you’re saying, Smudgers, and no, I don’t condone Tommie’s cheapshot-artistry & stupidity and lack of discipline…but we also don’t know what precipitated it, either.
With that in mind, I would say Lutui should have "suspected" whatever he got.
I actually think the bigger crime here is the way Lutui melo-dramatically fish flopped over on his back—arms in Christ pose—in a delayed, hammed-up reaction after Harris hit him.
By the way, who in the world—after getting struck while laying on their stomach—would ROLL OVER to face up?
Just humor me for a second, and play act that one out (in your mind) and see how natural it feels: "ow! you’re hitting me in the face—I will now roll over so you can get me while I’m even MORE vulnerable!"
You see the clip again, the ham act is clear.
Shoulda flagged him (Lutui) for poor sportsmanship—for a crappy acting job to rival what Keanu Reeves might look like as the lead in Hamlet. :-)
Plus, word on the "street" (at least Izzy’s street) is that Lutui’s a notorious dirtbag anyway.
In general, lately I just think "God" Goodell and the Competition Committee have been coming down too hard on the players with rules that are increasingly fruit-ified and namby-pamby.
I’m an old school kinda guy, and I just think a little of the old "giving him the business" while out on the football field still has its place, or at the least it’s just not that big of a deal (especially when it’s retaliation for dirty play, as opposed to un-provoked scumbaggery, done as a regular practice during play, such as Lutui’s reputed for).
And yes, among 300-whatever pound lineman, even getting punched while laying on the ground is pretty much a "love tap", in my eyes.
Assuming it’s not anything over-the-top (stomping a helmetless head, for example) or IMMINENTLY dangerous (leg whips, cut blocks and the like), then call them for the 15 and be done with it.
It’s a tired refrain, but it bears repeating: the game’s gotten soft. Polamalu said, and a few of the Ravens, as have others.
Guys like Butkus and Lambert et al wouldn’t even make it one series in today’s ultra-regulated, ultra-flagged, ultra-cautious, ultra-scrutinized, ultra-offense-friendly and super fine-happy NFL.
Time’s have changed, and not for the better, in my opinion.
Heck, people are fined just for ssaying anything remotely negative about the officiating after the game now…!
Again, I don’t want you to mis-interpret me—I’m all for accountability, playing with character, and so on. Walter would never have done what Tommie did. (And Sweetness is a pretty good moral measuring stick, if you ask me).
But at the same time it shouldn’t be made into such a huge deal. Players push, shove, and yes, punch, after just about every play, to some degree. I simply don’t see it as a suspendable offense. (and like I said, I have plenty of reasons to be ticked off at Tommie, too).
Also, a suspension at this point would amount to TWO games missed—equivalent to what players get for testing positive for banned substances.
But, we probably won’t see eye-to-eye on this, which is okay. Different strokes for diiferent folks and all that… (whatchoo talkin’ about, Willis?) :-)
I just wanted to give some of my additional perspective on the issue (namely, in light of the increasing facism of the league in terms of regulation and enforcement and fines issued).
P.S. I don’t REALLY believe Lutui shold be fined for being ham, either (although penalties for diving ARE issued in other sports)
by Amishbear on Nov 11, 2009 11:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
For Those who Watched The Game
Was Lutui going after Tommie Harris’s knees or was he playing mind games with him?
by MEATaylor on Nov 11, 2009 12:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I get where you're coming from...
and you’re right, we probably just want see eye to eye on this, and that’s cool.
If we were still in the old school days of playing, a punch here, a jab there would be fine. But the league has changed. And these players know the rules, or at least most of them (*cough McNabb).
All I’m saying is if Lutui is known for being a dirty player, get back at him without getting caught. Just don’t sucker punch the guy in the face when he’s laying face down. I wouldn’t have minded, as much, what Tommie did if he would’ve gone punch for punch with Lutui or even if the guy had a chance to react. My problem is the cowardly cheap shot he took, which, in my eyes, deserves whatever suspension the league or Lovie see fit.
And while I do have some issues with Harris, those issues don’t play a role in my feelings towards this. I’d support a suspension if Cutler or Forte had done the same thing.
Oh, one more thing, you can cry me a river on the diving issue, I’m a soccer fan. ;)
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by smudgers on Nov 11, 2009 6:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
God I'm dumb sometimes
see my e-mail, Dane…
by Amishbear on Nov 10, 2009 6:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
No worries dude.
I needed a good laugh :)
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
by Dane Noble on Nov 10, 2009 7:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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