Chiefs release RB Johnson and what it could mean for the Bears

The Redskins are already expressing interest.

No suprise there. Let them sign him. Even with Wolfe injured, Johnson is too much of a headache. And on top of that, he’s done. He will turn 30 later this month, and he is averaging 2.7 yards per rush.

by GouldisGold on Nov 9, 2009 5:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Do you think he would be a headache when he knows his money is on the line if he doesnt behave??

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by ANYTIME09 on Nov 9, 2009 7:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

It means, that the Bears will not be sign him either.

That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.

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by gaclaudy on Nov 9, 2009 6:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

The chance that the Bears are interested?

As Brad Biggs said, “What’s less than zero?”

You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.

by Dane Noble on Nov 9, 2009 6:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Nope nope nope

And no E. James either…Johnson just tried out for the Texans anyway.

by BigAppleBearsFan on Nov 9, 2009 6:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

He is a great fit in Houston

by brands735 on Nov 9, 2009 9:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Good compliment

to the running style of Slaton? Thunder and lightning-esque

by BigAppleBearsFan on Nov 10, 2009 10:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Slaton and Moats are two guys that can run to the outside but I don’t trust up the middle. Chris Brown has looked not good at all. Larry Johnson could take Chris Brown’s role.

by brands735 on Nov 10, 2009 10:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

If that did happen and then I'd like to see the Bears pick Brown up

He’d be a good compliment to Forte and is a big back with speed to get to the outside. His biggest problem has been durability, so since Forte would be your primary RB and you only would give Brown 10-12 carries a game, that would be a good combination. He’s also a decent receiver out of the backfield.

He hasn’t looked bad except for the one fumble at the goal line this year. His yards per carry isn’t high because they use him in a lot of short yardage situations. He’d be cheap too, plus being a local kid, it could be a good thing for him to be back home again.

I just find it hard to believe that the Bears will be able to continue for 8 more games with only 2 backs, if Wolfe’s injury takes time to heal.

by BearFan611 on Nov 10, 2009 10:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Brown would be cheap but if we were going to pick him up in the off-season, why wouldn’t we just re-sign Kevin Jones?

by brands735 on Nov 10, 2009 12:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm talking about picking him up now and have another back available in case Forte or AP goes down.

by BearFan611 on Nov 10, 2009 12:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Oh

That is assuming the Texans sign LJ then release Brown. I don’t even know that they release Brown if they sign LJ. Shanahan (OC for the Texans) has a huge crush on running the ball. He would love rotating 4 runners to balance out what is right now a really strong passing attack.

by brands735 on Nov 10, 2009 12:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Right, I thought that's what your original post was referring to, that LJ would replace Brown.

Even in the off-season, though, if he were available, I’d take a strong look at him as a complimentary back.

by BearFan611 on Nov 10, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

since i believe we have lost jones for the season, AP (the awesome one) for 2 or 3 more weeks

Yeah, I believe that you may be onto something about Jones, since we put him on IR in the pre-season. But you do know that Peterson played last week, right?

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by smudgers on Nov 9, 2009 6:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Does anybody realize that Wolfe being out hurts our special teams more than anything?

LJ isn’t know as much of a ST player now is he.

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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 9, 2009 6:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

No but what if Forte goes down or AP again, you do realize we need more than 2 RBS right??

You cant just think everyones going to stay healthy with this injury riddled team. Im not looking at him as a potential savior to our running game, more of a much needed backup for depth. How much would he really cost. How dumb would he be if acted up?? How much of a risk would it be to have him for the next 8 games as a trial run??

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by ANYTIME09 on Nov 9, 2009 7:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

There are other running backs to be had

that don’t act like complete idiots.

I'M A MAN! I'M 23!

by ChiFan13 on Nov 9, 2009 7:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yea but like I said dont you think hed be on his best behaivor??

Considering wherever he ends up will be a last chance kind of thing.

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by ANYTIME09 on Nov 9, 2009 7:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

no

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by BearNecessities on Nov 10, 2009 11:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Well that is where we disagree.

Watch him end up on the Patriots and play well for them.

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by ANYTIME09 on Nov 10, 2009 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The brutal truth is

we’re not the Patriots. Johnson would/will play well for them, not for us.

by rdent4hof on Nov 11, 2009 7:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

With Wolfe out we have 3 RB's

Forte, AP, Mckie.

My point was we have a back up right now, we need someone to fill the ST void more than the back up RB role.

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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 9, 2009 10:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Well McKie is FB not a RB, Im sure you know that.

And if you did get Johnson doesnt that move AP back to Special Teams???

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by ANYTIME09 on Nov 9, 2009 11:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes McKie is a FB which is a form of a RB.

AP is already on special teams so having LJ doesn’t move him back.

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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 10, 2009 8:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

If you would rather have McKie running the ball than LJ

Then I dont know what else to say.

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by ANYTIME09 on Nov 10, 2009 2:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I never said I'd rather have McKie run the ball than LJ

I don’t know where you are getting that from.

I’m saying LJ doesn’t fix our ST needs.

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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 10, 2009 2:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Im speaking hypothetically, in the events that if Forte got hurt.

You wouldnt have to take AP off ST than, cause if Forte did in fact get hurt than AP wouldnt be starting and playing ST.

Yes with Forte and AP we dont need anyone, but AP has already had injury problems and Forte is one play away from us really being screwed in the RB situation.

I just read Maurice Hicks was tried out but not signed I dont look at him as a better option than LJ even if he does play ST. And another thing about special teams, doesnt Toub just turn anyone into ST studs, Im sure you were one of the many that laughed when you first saw Wolfe making tackles on Kick Coverage units, than all of a sudden he leads our ST unit in tackles, Toub could turn me and you into ST studs, I think backup/Depth at RB is a bigger concern right now.

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by ANYTIME09 on Nov 10, 2009 2:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

How do you know I'm not a ST stud? :)

I get what you’re saying.

Yes if Forte is injured then we really have a problem and we are depleted on the depth chart in that area.

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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 10, 2009 3:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

HUH???

Since when did FBs stop being RBs?

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by lookingdeadred on Nov 10, 2009 8:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

So lets just say for the fun of this argument that Forte did get hurt.

You do realize we only have one Fullback, so you would just have us run single set backfields or risk having our 2 guys that are available playing at the same time. And to your point of AP if he has to be the starter he wouldnt be on ST.

Bottom Line is with Wolfe out, we are in the market for a BACKUP running back and he is available so there is no reason why we shouldnt make a play for him.

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by ANYTIME09 on Nov 10, 2009 1:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I assume we have someone on the practice squad that we will suit up if need be. It was Kahill Bell but don’t know if it still is.

by brands735 on Nov 10, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

They just tried out Maurice Hicks but didnt sign him

Yea Hicks is a waaaaaayyyyyy better option than Johnson.

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by ANYTIME09 on Nov 10, 2009 2:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

It comes down to cash

An option like Hicks would be less expensive and both players have done absolutely nothing in the past few years in the NFL besides one of them spitting in a girl’s face.

by brands735 on Nov 10, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I just heard them say that Bell is still on the Practice squad.

And Aromashadu will likely take Wolfes spot on ST. And we are going to roll the dice with only 2 RBs this week. I just think that is stupid, you have to be ready for ALL variables, If Forte goes down in this game we are screwed.

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by ANYTIME09 on Nov 10, 2009 2:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Izzy at FB, Rashied at RB

by brands735 on Nov 10, 2009 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

When they called them Fullbacks and not Running Backs

If

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by ANYTIME09 on Nov 10, 2009 2:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Fullbacks = running backs?

I understand the designation running back means what halfback or tailback used to mean, but a fullback is still a running back.

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by lookingdeadred on Nov 10, 2009 5:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Then they should just all be called running backs

but theyre not so there has got to be a difference.

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by ANYTIME09 on Nov 10, 2009 6:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yep.

One’s bigger and a better blocker.

by SJS_illini on Nov 11, 2009 8:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I thought he was still out

weeks seem to drag on for me and it feels like we are still in week 2 to me. anyways it was just an idea. i know the problem is with the oline but somebody who can beat the hell out of a defensive line and give us a little more depth wouldnt be bad. i mean we are down to 2 runningbacks for about a month with wolfe going down. we really need to think about getting a different conditioning staff. i dont think any team is as banged up as we are and we didnt even have a post season to play last year.

Bring back our honey bears...sick and tired of hearing about the dallas cowboy cheerleaders and the bars they go work at when they quit. cold weather + cheerleaders in skimpy outfits = lots of fun

by tomh115 on Nov 10, 2009 9:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

wait we lost Jones for the year?

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by BearNecessities on Nov 10, 2009 11:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

fwiw...

meh.

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by smudgers on Nov 9, 2009 7:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I love how people spin that sort of statement.

Lovie and Jerry have a standard response that is always the same, and people read it as “We must be interested, because they didn’t say No”.

Then again, even after Jerry had said flat-out, the Bears weren’t interested in Plax, people still figured out a way to start rumors of our interest.

You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.

by Dane Noble on Nov 9, 2009 7:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I still think we'll sign Plax!

I don’t care if JA said no and he is in prison.

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by smudgers on Nov 9, 2009 8:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Can we

Get a striped jersey for Plax? And can he rush the passer or stop the bleeding on the O Line?

If so, I am on board…

by BigAppleBearsFan on Nov 9, 2009 8:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Stay away

I heard on ESPN radio this evening that he has been arrested 4 times for violence to women, he’s a tool.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 9, 2009 9:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

No way we sign LJ

He sucks and couldn’t work behind there horrible line so there is no way he would do good behind our horrible line.

by Jhitt81 on Nov 9, 2009 9:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Hate to say it...

Walter Payton would have a tough time running behind this o-line. They should be looking for lineman… Forte would be a league leader in rushing on the Bengals, Giants, or any other team with a decent line.

by sirus19x on Nov 9, 2009 11:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

The core problem with the run game is not the RB position

it is with the O-line. Forte is very good as he shows when they give him some daylight. The problem is the O-line rarely gives him daylight. It would not surprise me to find out Forte gets hit in the backfield more than any other back in the NFL.

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by lookingdeadred on Nov 10, 2009 8:02 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

+1

But I think too many people are in fantasy football mode and don’t look at it that way.

You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.

by Dane Noble on Nov 10, 2009 8:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I knew it!

Fantasy is like sports reefer – it screws ya up.

Although, SOME fantasy leagues do give points for offensive line play. I have no idea how though – Spiegel discussed it once on the Score but it went over my head.

by SJS_illini on Nov 10, 2009 8:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

But at least you don't have the erge for Funions afterwards :-)

Unreasonable people make life difficult...

by WisBearsFan34 on Nov 10, 2009 9:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I dunno about that...

I’ve had the urge for Jimmy John’s after a bad week.

by SJS_illini on Nov 10, 2009 10:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I dunno about that...

I’ve had the urge for Jimmy John’s after a bad week.

by SJS_illini on Nov 10, 2009 10:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Fantasy football (and baseball)

has done more to dumb down the fan base than anything before.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Nov 10, 2009 8:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I think it could actually be argued either way.

On one hand, people have become much more educated on personnel, schemes, tendencies… and all of that is great.

On the other hand, you end up with a ton of people who only see the game in FF terms. I mentioned in a post one time how weird it was going to a sports bar with NFL Sunday Ticket, and being nearly the only one out of a couple hundred people that actually rooted for a team. Almost everyone was just watching games for stats

It’s really strange to see a person rooting for both teams on the field… whichever one has the ball at the time.

Oh, and it leads to endless amounts of FanPosts about “What’s wrong with Greg Olsen?” and “What’s wrong with Forte?”

You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.

by Dane Noble on Nov 10, 2009 8:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

One theory I have

is that FF has brought in many baseball fans… Baseball being so stat driven.

I believe many of these same folks apply the same (numbers) mentality to football…

Problem is it doesn’t apply to football. You’ll hear Fantasy guys say, “Forte sucks!” Which you, me and many others know that statement is ignorant. But when these fantasy guys draft him in the top 3 or 4 picks and he doesn’t show worthy numbers, they say the “Forte sucks!”, while not understanding the big picture.

FYI, I do play fantasy and I drafted Forte in both leagues… Not because I thought he was great, but because I thought the O-line would be better than they were last year (they’re not). I also drafted him because I’m a homer, glutton for punishment ;-)

by rdent4hof on Nov 10, 2009 10:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

Who woulda thought that out of Pace, Omiyale, and Shaffer, we are a big 0/3 in those acquisitions? Pace has shown some flashes, so maybe he should be a 0.5

But yeah, it was funny headed into the Bye week, coming off 3 straight wins, we had people screaming from their FF soapboxes that “Something is wrong with Olsen!”…

We were winning ball games! Who cares what one player’s numbers look like?!

You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.

by Dane Noble on Nov 10, 2009 10:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

.5 Yipee! LOL

Hopefully next year Omiyale will have us eating crow…

I admit, I criticized Olsen for not making tough catches… But that’s as far as I could go (he did look solid last week). Sure I’d prefer if he were a better blocker, but the Bears knew that would be a growing pain when he was drafted. So it’s unrealistic to expect too much from that aspect.

We were winning ball games!

Remarkable how long ago that feels…

Who cares what one player’s numbers look like?!

EXACTLY! It Doesn’t matter, at all.

by rdent4hof on Nov 11, 2009 8:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

It does make for some more knowledgeable fans, but on the other hand it also tends to cause some to see performance only in fantasy scoring terms, and that is annoying.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Nov 10, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree Forte is a good back

Plus he doesn’t assault women, get random other charges brought against him, nor run his mouth about his team mates. All good qualities of LJ but I will pass.

by TheMan1 on Nov 10, 2009 8:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

This team lacks talent, so get it wherever you can.

sure the oline sux, but Larry Johnson is a huge upgrade over Wolfe. LJ keeps Forte healthy, which keeps LJ healthy. if LJ can be signed to a cheap 2 year deal DO IT.

There will always be arguments against adding guys (darren sharper is too old, etc.), but now’s not the time. We need talent. I was pissed when i saw recently signed Ty Law come in for the Broncos last night… as if the Bears are so secure with their talent they need not look for replacements, especially in the secondary.

this team has no 1st or 2nd round picks. “the bears have no intention of paying anybody”. The notion of passing on the LJ train in hopes something better comes along is ridiculous. sign him today and we have an effective 1-2 rb punch today, all other future scenarios of improvement anywhere on this team are frankly fantasies.

by No It All on Nov 10, 2009 10:54 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Larry Johnson better than Wolfe

I don’t think so

by DaHamsta on Nov 10, 2009 3:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

holy christ

Am I seeing a whole post dedicated to the thought of bringing Johnson to the bears? I threw out that idea, and I was given so much crap for it. Some of the football gurus on this site were appalled at the thought of bringing in a “HOMOPHOBE” RB (LOL)….Lets be serious, do any of you guys believe that the word LJ used on his twitter has never been used by any member of our beloved bears?? I cant say for sure, but I would bet the mortgage that some words similar to that have been thrown around in the Soldier Field lockerroom. And thats ok, I dont crucify some1 for using a gay slur. Im not defending it, but its silly to suggest that because of that, he should not be considered by any other team. But anyways, thats not the point. I was saying the bears should consider it. They are down to AP and Forte. God borbid one of them is injured, but if it happens, the bears, as if they already aren’t, would be in a world of hurt. But, I know that will not happen. The management will again make the wrong move, as they are so infamous for doing, and not make any effort to get him.

Eat. Sleep. Pray. Watch chicago play.

P.S.

You've obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a shit about what you think.

by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 10, 2009 4:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

But Izzy could step right in

by DaHamsta on Nov 10, 2009 5:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

LJ is definitely a better RB than Wolfe, just look @ the career stats! It would be interesting to see how many NFL teams would choose Wolfe over LJ even though Wolfe is a better “team player”. Atleast can’t see Bill Belichick take Wolf over LJ!

by AKK on Nov 11, 2009 12:59 AM CST reply actions 0 recs