Packers Get Victory Over Chicago
In true rivalry fashion, the game between the Packers and Bears at Soldier Field came down to the wire, unfortunately seeing Green Bay get the victory. Chicago looked good on both sides of the ball at times, but errors and penalties ultimately ensured defeat.
Quick numbers:
Jay Cutler: 23/36, 209 yards, 2 TDs/ 2 INTs
Devin Aromashodu: 8 rec/ 76 yds/ 1 TD
Matt Forte: 12 carries/ 51 yds
Tommie Harris: 2 tackles, 1 sack, 1 QB hit
Lovie Smith: For the first time in his Bears career, he is swept by the Packers for the year.
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fire lovie and staff
cut kruetz, omiyale.. beat the snot out of olsen till he toughens up…
by GtM on Dec 13, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
just don't mess up his hair
"This one means 'Kill Kirk!!!!'... And also, 'hallelujah'... Depending on the context."
by trippingandy on Dec 13, 2009 3:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I take it Kreutz didn't rise to the challenge?
I didn’t get a chance to see the game.
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by Maelvampyre on Dec 13, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that's unfortunate
As much as I have ragged on Kreutz this season, I am a Bear’s fan and I wish he had summoned up some fire.
"I am not an animal!" - Merrick
by Maelvampyre on Dec 13, 2009 3:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Raji didn't do anything,
if anyone on the O-line didn’t rise to the challenge. It was Chris Williams.
by Fridge72 on Dec 13, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and Omiyale,
he played like crap too
by Fridge72 on Dec 13, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That CW did well is good to hear.
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by Maelvampyre on Dec 13, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He didn't do well,
he got penalized all game long.
by Fridge72 on Dec 13, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
geez, i wish i could have seen the game.
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by Maelvampyre on Dec 13, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you really don't.
it was awful.
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by Allie on Dec 13, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I second what
Allie said. I watched it and I don’t feel good right now.
by Fridge72 on Dec 13, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ok
All I had was that Yahoo game channel and that didn’t give me a very good idea of what was really going on.
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by Maelvampyre on Dec 13, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That sucks,
it is hard to keep up with games that way. I have to travel for work alot and have tried to do it that way a few times. Not the same experience as watching.
by Fridge72 on Dec 13, 2009 3:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
at least
I didn’t have to see Andrea Kremer using the damn game channel.
That is about the only plus I guess!
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by Maelvampyre on Dec 13, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We don't get the game in Arizona.
I was stuck looking at the NFL.com stat tracker.
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by JoeCB1991 on Dec 13, 2009 3:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, he did alright.
One of the face masks was fairly ticky tack, and the other was an inside beat which sucks, but I’d rather he face mask brutally and keep the QB safe than let him get smashed..
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by Sklz711 on Dec 13, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If that happened once in a while, OK
but really, I would just prefer that our 1st round draft pick from two years ago would consistently beat his opponent and not consistently get penalized.
by Fridge72 on Dec 13, 2009 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that facemask on matthews negated a big play
and letting him go through wouldn’t have done anything negative.
for a smart guy.. he made a couple really dumb plays today.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
by Allie on Dec 13, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not so sure about that
It looked as if he would’ve had a pretty clear path to Jay. It would’ve been close, but he definitely would’ve been hit.
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by propheteer on Dec 13, 2009 5:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he wasn't awful
until a false start on 3rd down while trying to drive at the end.
unforgivable in that spot.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
by Allie on Dec 13, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
was kind of a
BS call though. He didn’t jump, his head bobbed a tiny bit.
by Fridge72 on Dec 13, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and thats all it takes
by that point you know how they’re calling the game. for a veteran to get flagged in that spot…
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
by Allie on Dec 13, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well in his defense he was filling in for Pace.
WWOD- What Would Orlando Do.
Price Check on aisle BOOM.
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 13, 2009 5:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no pain no gain
i’m kind of relieved we lost this game, hopefully it will help get the force lovie out thing going.
we’ve gotta lose now to help us in the future, simple as that.
by Nih1lus on Dec 13, 2009 3:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
won't happen
The Bears will make some excuse tomorrow. We did this well or that and just plain excuses. Lovie will not be fired because Angelo doesn’t have the balls to admit his failings and fire Lovie. They’re both pathetic and sadly we won’t be rid of either one for a long time
by frenchbears113 on Dec 13, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I could have been kinda happy
this season if we beat the pack,, but nooo. i want to see heads roll. starting with the coaches
by GtM on Dec 13, 2009 3:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Is just me
or does anyone else feel dirty after seeing this game?
by frenchbears113 on Dec 13, 2009 3:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
at least
we saw what Aromashodu can do. and let me tell you, he made some really nice catches today. i mean like really nice.
and it looks like he’s getting separation. and him and cutler have chemistry. hopefully we see more of what he can do for the rest of the season.
by Nih1lus on Dec 13, 2009 3:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That's my point
Horrible coaching. How do just now give Aromashodu a chance to see what he’s got? He lloked great against a top secondary
by frenchbears113 on Dec 13, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He initially replaced Wolfe on STs when Wolfe went to the IR.
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
by Dane Noble on Dec 13, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
but he looked good in the preseason and he was worth a shot a shot a lot earlier. I think it’s ridiculous to judge a players talents by what he does on special teams. Wolfe is trash
by frenchbears113 on Dec 13, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing is,
the Bears only dress 4 WRs typically. Hester, Knox, Bennett, and Davis… who should have not dressed?
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by Dane Noble on Dec 13, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Davis
at this point he’s adding nothing and is blocking Jay’s favorite target from camp.
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by Allie on Dec 13, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the thing is
Davis has never done much. I understand the team needs ST guys but not at the expense of better players.
by frenchbears113 on Dec 13, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's part of the problem
I don’t think anyone would miss Sheed being dressed. IMO it’s rediculous to not play someone cause of what could potentially happen on STS, or a numbers game. I also have a difficult time believing there isn’t someone who could play close to what Davis does.
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by propheteer on Dec 13, 2009 5:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think...
he’ll be targeted more than devin next year. I see Aromashodu turning into a mini-brand marshall. He’s got raw talent. I think he can develop into a nice target for Jay.
by Savior52 on Dec 13, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Aromashodu
Was the guy that Jay wanted to start.But he didn’t why?Idiot turner thats why
by T.Moore on Dec 13, 2009 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lovie
is also to blame for that
by frenchbears113 on Dec 13, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And he is to blame
not have Brandon Rideau.he looks good too
by T.Moore on Dec 13, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fire Lovie, fire Turner, get a new O-Line.
Maybe shake up the receiver lineup as well since Aroma looked good. Knox is getting good too, although I think on one of the Picks Cutler had, Knox ran the wrong route.
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by JoeCB1991 on Dec 13, 2009 3:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
My initial reaction
Why can’t anyone pronounce Aromashodu?
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by pocketwatch on Dec 13, 2009 3:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Auto-ta-da-man
That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.
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by gaclaudy on Dec 13, 2009 8:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it was sweet to finally see DA get some quality playing time
but utterly awful to watch almost everything else. 100+ yards in penaties, a lack of chemistry STILL between Jay and the WR (Knox today)… and an inability to get out of our own way.
I’m not usually one who cheers for someone to lose their job, but today should be the rock bottom we need to hit to clean house. But it won’t be. And thats the most upsetting thing.
Also. My head hurts.
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by Allie on Dec 13, 2009 3:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
DA
was a bright spot today, that’s about all. We were playing well in the 2nd and beginning of 3rd quarters until our O-line and coaches started to repeatedly shoot us in the feet.
by Fridge72 on Dec 13, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmm
The guy our QB has been BEGGING to throw to all season turns out to be a good receiver… who would have thunk it.
Fire the entire coaching staff. NOW.
by sabbath999 on Dec 14, 2009 4:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why don't they just listen to Jay?
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by JoeCB1991 on Dec 14, 2009 5:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Regarding JC
I would like to say there is a lot of miscommunication that goes on between JC and our WR. I think coaches needs to be blamed for that, Knox needs to learn to run proper route and know what JC is thinking, DA proved he can be a quality WR, and I honestly think with proper coaching we have a solid WR corp with a amazing QB (according to me). We just need to improve our coaching staff and see how we do next year.
by Man G on Dec 13, 2009 3:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If I was the GM,
I would be so pissed I think I would barge into Lovie’s post game press conference and fire him on the spot in front of the cameras. See if that induces an emotional response from him.
by Fridge72 on Dec 13, 2009 3:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
yeah right
if that ever happened Lovie would probably be like “I don’t agree but I respect your candor” and just shrug his shoulders
by frenchbears113 on Dec 13, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe,
but at this point, it would probably make me feel better today.
by Fridge72 on Dec 13, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
itd make us all feel better
by frenchbears113 on Dec 13, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and thats why you'd never be a gm
making rash decisions based on what makes you “feel better” would make YOU be the one was fired.
Right decisions for wrong reasons and all that jazz.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
by Allie on Dec 13, 2009 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There's more than one problem with this team
We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead
by propheteer on Dec 13, 2009 5:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe....
This franchise will in the long run do what it takes to make things right. As messed up as things are look at it this way…….Who expected us to have the balls to get Cutler? That showed me that at least this franchise has a pulse. Lovie(not this year) and Ron Turner will evenutally be fired and they will get the right personnel. If they don’t…… I will find Virginia…….Marry her and convince her through my youthful love and tenacity that I will now take control of the franchise and fire Lovie and his staff. I will then go woo Cowher and Weis and trade Olsen and Hester. At which point, I will then file for separation from Virginia citing irreconcilable differences seeing as how my job is done. Fire Lovie and GO BEARS!
Mr. Dyess
by Fridgeman81 on Dec 13, 2009 3:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Getting Jay did take some balls.
If they had gotten a good experienced WR it would be ballsier.
by T.Moore on Dec 13, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and...
how exactly do you proceed seducing a 100 year old women?
by Man G on Dec 13, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I will give her great shoulder massages. She will love them and Marry me. lol.
Mr. Dyess
by Fridgeman81 on Dec 13, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What about the holiest of holies?
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by propheteer on Dec 13, 2009 5:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
2 indictments of coaching on full display today
1, DA playing great. 2, the mistakes on route running by our young WRs. these are mistakes that have kept happening all season long. your coaches can drill these out of you. i’d say you could blame the players entirely, but i dunno…knox is the main culprit, but if he was an idiot on this stuff, why does he run some routes so well? anyway, both of these things should be the nail in the coffin for the bears’ careers for all the coaches on the offensive side of the ball. lovie’s 2 TOs should kind of end his tenure as well, but we know that’s not gonna happen.
by guy incognito on Dec 13, 2009 3:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Two Points of Silver Lining
1. D.A. – looked really good when finally given a real shot
2. Lovie’s incompetience was in FULL display as he waisted a time to then challenge and lose, effectively losing 2 TOs in one shot. How they could look at that, along with the rest of the season’s coaching debacles, and still have faith in him is beyond me. I understand his contract is difficult to deal with, but for the love of God, the man just does not have it anymore
by CubsFan87 on Dec 13, 2009 3:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I dont think he ever did.
he got to much credit for Ron Riveras defense
by Daseabeez on Dec 13, 2009 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
YES
Thank you. Finally someone speaks the truth
by frenchbears113 on Dec 13, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If you look at the numbers they don't lie.
by Daseabeez on Dec 13, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
like Shakira's hips - them numbers
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by Maelvampyre on Dec 13, 2009 9:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think at a time lovie was a good DC
But now his crap doesn’t work anymore
by T.Moore on Dec 13, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
not necessarily
the Rams had an amazing offense that put up huge numbers so the opposition had to play from behind therefore creating higher chances of turnovers. Lovie’s D has always been OK at best and now it’s just terrible
by frenchbears113 on Dec 13, 2009 3:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it doesn't seem like he ever changes his calls.
it seems he just gets lucky some times and they drop the ball. 3rd down play calling is just horrible
by Daseabeez on Dec 13, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah since we have been getting
beat the same way all year
by Daseabeez on Dec 13, 2009 3:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
isn't that why...
we got cutler? I think too much has been invested in this system to give up this year. If our offense gets better next year, which i don’t think can get any worse.. we might be in a good spot.
by Savior52 on Dec 13, 2009 4:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
we can runn the ball at least
its improvement
by T.Moore on Dec 13, 2009 4:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh please
For the last time, it’s not RR defense. He was coaching these guys when they were in their primes. You can’t compare apples to oranges. SD defense hasn’t exactly set the league on fire.
We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead
by propheteer on Dec 13, 2009 5:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lovie can do more,
next week he’ll probably give us a tutorial on how to use three time-outs in one shot. Surely there is a way.
by Fridge72 on Dec 13, 2009 3:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and still get a delay of game
than a false start
by Daseabeez on Dec 13, 2009 3:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't wait
ugh its hard being a Bears fan this year.
by Daseabeez on Dec 13, 2009 4:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Has definitely been a frustrating year,
at least we can look forward to the draft, oh yeah, I forgot.
by Fridge72 on Dec 13, 2009 4:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yup makes it even worse doesn't it
At least we have the Windycitybearssupportgroup.com lol
by Daseabeez on Dec 13, 2009 4:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
DA finally playing and leading the team with 8 catches
Is another gaffe by Lovie and the coaching staff. Cutler has been calling to get DA on the field over and over again all throughout the season, and the coaching staff wouldn’t budge. He finally gets a start and leads the team in catches and targets and scores a TD.
Add that to the 13 penalties and the two timeouts wasted on one challenge and… well… you should have sealed your fate. Lovie’s gettin the axe, the Monday after the regular season is over.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Dec 13, 2009 4:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So much ineptitude this year...
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by JoeCB1991 on Dec 13, 2009 5:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The stupid! It BURNS!
It’s over. The only reason you would retain Smith after this season — and that supremely incompetent challenge — is money.
This is the worst Bears team I’ve seen since the end of the Jauron era, and it’s only marginally better than the mess that was the Wanny period. There’s just nothing to build on, and if we don’t buy a clue in the off-season we’re going to mentally wreck the best QB prospect we’ve had since McMahon.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
by xarker on Dec 13, 2009 8:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lovie's half of the way to being fired
Regardless of how much Lovie has left on his contract, I truely believe if the Bears get swpet by the Packers and Vikings he will be fired. He’s half way there.
by boondock_saint812 on Dec 13, 2009 3:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
nope the last 2 coachs that went 4-12 stayed for another season
by Daseabeez on Dec 13, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But bottom line
the coaching systems, offensively and defensively (save a couple of position coaches), are broken, we can’t move the ball effectively and we can’t get off the field
by CubsFan87 on Dec 13, 2009 3:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the funny part is that the one guy who i think has done pretty well
is babich. he’s lost 2 of his 3 starters to injury, yet the LB core has done okay. briggs has been great, per usual, but hillenmeyer has played better than expected, and roach and williams have shown some real progress as well.
by guy incognito on Dec 13, 2009 3:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah I like him as a position coach
i think the defense was almost better under him
by Daseabeez on Dec 13, 2009 3:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
we should do nfl team a favor
put lovie under state arrest so he cant coach for any other nfl team…ever they will thank us.
by Man G on Dec 13, 2009 3:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Neither should Brian Billick
listening to him today made me think so much less of him
by CubsFan87 on Dec 13, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We have at least another year of marriage with Lovie
Brian being hurt will be his scape goat for defense and Ron or not having a top WR or line will be his offense scape goat. So we might even be stuck with Ron for another year.
by Daseabeez on Dec 13, 2009 3:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This game is one of the reasons we want to see a video of how incompetent Lovie is.
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by JoeCB1991 on Dec 13, 2009 3:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Getting swept by the Packers
Absolutely unacceptable. Absolutely, positively, completely not acceptable. I’ve been a Lovie backer for a while, but he should not be allowed to leave the building with the title of Chicago Bears Head Coach still in possession.
This was absolutely embarrassing. The offensive line was atrocious – Chris Williams still sucks, no matter what position he plays. The WR were not great – I think they’re still better as they were today than wasting passes with Devin Hester, but a lot of work needs to be done.
They could not get out of their own way. What a disaster.
Is Jerry Angelo fired yet?
by ES46NE10 on Dec 13, 2009 3:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
disagree about williams
he had some bad penalties, but the two facemask calls were not exactly egregious. his hands were too high, and he got matthews. more PT will help him get rid of that habit. but i thought he actually did pretty good against a very good defense today. in fact, the line overall was about average, which is incredible for them. the penalties were terrible, and omiyale didn’t play great (but, you know, he’s not a guard), but i was pleasantly surprised with their play.
by guy incognito on Dec 13, 2009 3:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Overreaction to the extreme
This is his second start at LT. He’ll be just fine.
We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead
by propheteer on Dec 13, 2009 5:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
DA
can be Jay’s B Marsh.He is theonly oneAttacking the ball ALL YEAR!!!
by T.Moore on Dec 13, 2009 3:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
that was suppose to be a space
between the and only
by T.Moore on Dec 13, 2009 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he's got the tools
he’s fast, he’s tall, he runs pretty good routes (the first INT today not withstanding), he fights for the ball, and he gets some separation. cutler clearly loves him as well. he really should be our #1 WR.
by guy incognito on Dec 13, 2009 3:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
If not as the primary receiver, (but why not?) at least keep him on the field as an option for Cutler.
by waywest on Dec 13, 2009 4:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he should be the #1 WR
period. he’s big, he’s fast, he creates separation, he fights for the ball, and he and our QB are on the same page fairly often. i don’t know what else you’d want out of that spot. yeah, he wasn’t a high draft pick, and he’s bounced around the league a lot, but that doesn’t mean anything. hell, brandon marshall was a 4th round pick that was nothing until cutler showed up, and now, he’s a monster.
by guy incognito on Dec 13, 2009 4:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would be fine with him, Knox, and Bennet being the starters.
Hester is good, but he might be better off returning kicks.
Knox is doing really well, but he needs to learn how to run routes better.
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by JoeCB1991 on Dec 13, 2009 5:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This just in...
about two years ago. Devin Hester will never be just a returner again.
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by propheteer on Dec 13, 2009 6:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He is a better kickoff returner than receiver, we all know that.
But Hester has been getting better this year. The Bears have a lot of quick receivers, the O-Line just needs to give Cutler time to throw [like that would ever happen this year….] so they can run their routes and get separation.
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by JoeCB1991 on Dec 13, 2009 9:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's been better at WR
by far since converting over. There is no guarantee that he would be just as good returning as before. Typically, it’s a natural progression for any STS to want to start and play more. He’s making great strides the past two years.
We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead
by propheteer on Dec 14, 2009 12:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is there a way
Jerry could fire Lovie “with cause” like Al Davis did to Lane Kiffin? I’m not up on these kinds of things so please excuse my ignorance
by CubsFan87 on Dec 13, 2009 3:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
if sucking hard
is cause.. then yes we can
by GtM on Dec 13, 2009 3:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The timeout followed by the challenge was a huge blunder
How do you pull that?
by Donald Driver on Dec 13, 2009 3:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
the NO coach did that this year too
by Daseabeez on Dec 13, 2009 3:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bet he didn't catch as
shit for it as Lovie will.
by Fridge72 on Dec 13, 2009 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well i dont know
but he didn’t know the rule he was trying to call a TO so he could challenge. I’m sure on the Saints web site they were going nuts.
by Daseabeez on Dec 13, 2009 4:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but...
the point of a challenge is that the call was wrong, not that you WISH the call was wrong. That was just an obviously correct call. It took no time to review, because it was so clearly not a catch.
It’s incompetence as a game manager. It costs us over and over.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
by xarker on Dec 13, 2009 8:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
considering they had that much try to review it upstairs
to see it was an incomplete pass is just horriable
by Daseabeez on Dec 14, 2009 5:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lovie Smith is STEALING!
What are these clowns doing at Halas Hall all week? It’s clearly not trying to be better than the week before. They’re making the same stupid mistakes and coaching decisions they have been all year! Put Lovie and his band of idiot’s back in the clown car and send ’em over a cliff!
by waywest on Dec 13, 2009 3:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I can't remember did we pass on
Felix Jones or was he already gone?
by Daseabeez on Dec 13, 2009 4:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i'm pretty sure he was taken between
CW and Forte
by Jhitt81 on Dec 13, 2009 4:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
really. damn!
you can really rebuild a team in a year if you draft perfectly. but that’s damn near impossible
by Daseabeez on Dec 13, 2009 4:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And Brandon Meriwhether....
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
by Just Dave on Dec 13, 2009 6:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Im glad we lost
Maybe if we get swept the rest of the way theyll force the bears mangament to step up and clean house, I also think cutler SUCKS, yea our whole team sucks but CUTLER REALLY BLOWS, he continues to unimpress me week after week,
by cutlersbutler on Dec 13, 2009 4:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well dude
Inexperienced WRs and no running game to give him a break and the worst coachin staff ever will do that to a young QB.Im not saying its not all his fault cause he get some of the blame.But the only WR on our team that fights for the ball is Aromashodu and barely played this season.Jay likes to throw to him he is the guy Jay wants to start but guess what?Lovie a freakin turner didn’t do anything with him until now.Jay gets some blame.But he proved that with the right guys and coaches he can play well.i expected him to struggle in some games (not have 22 INTs or to throw as many times as he did since the running game sucks).Its his 1st year in the most predictable system in the NFL give him until next year to get an GOOD OC and good O-linemen.With those things im telling you he would look better.If we can endure about 5 years of grossman and with Cutler it shouldn’t be a problem since he shows lots of promise.He needs to be coached up by a GOOD coach not freakin turner.
by T.Moore on Dec 13, 2009 4:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
He’s much to blame for some of the losses, but as far as I can remember football is a TEAM game. His two INTs were pretty bad…but for this team to get better he needs to trust his WRs. It’s obvious this is his biggest fault this year. Nothing more, nothing less.
We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead
by propheteer on Dec 13, 2009 6:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The problem
JA. He is the reason we have no talent coaching or players
by Jhitt81 on Dec 13, 2009 4:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Fire...
the whole coaching staff, they all suck!
by pedro316 on Dec 13, 2009 4:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Just a thought
Maybe Jay is playing horribly so that Turner and Hamilton get fired. He’s had issues with Turner before and maybe he just refuses to play at his best for a guy like Turner. If that is the case that is bush league but I wouldn’t blame him. Maybe it’ll work
by frenchbears113 on Dec 13, 2009 4:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
well
When Turner was head coach of Illinois, he offered a scholarship to Cutler and when Cutler accepted, apparently Turner took it back for some no-name player
by frenchbears113 on Dec 13, 2009 4:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No and I hope you are not serious
He is not going to come up with some scheme and play poor for a year in order to get someone fired. Come on now.
by 815Sox on Dec 13, 2009 5:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
my apologies
sad thing is, that I wasn’t sure if this was sarcasm or not
by 815Sox on Dec 14, 2009 6:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well we are know mathematically
eliminated from the playoffs.
by Jhitt81 on Dec 13, 2009 4:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Oh for the days of Ditka!
While Ditka’s Bears gave us only one Super Bowl Championship, his Bears also gave us a number of NFC Central Championships. Ditka had it correct when he told Mike McCaskey that if he wanted a better team that he should allow him to become more involved in the player selection at the time of the NFL Draft.
Instead of McCaskey listening to his coach who brought him to Super Bowl XX, he FIRED DITKA in January 1993! Where was the logic in that, sir? What was the result of that, sir? Let’s see…Dave Wannstedt, Dick Jauron, and his successor and current head coach Lovie Smith! Oh yes, Lovie brought the Bears to Super Bowl XLI, but in the end, they handed Tony Dungy and Peyton Manning their first Super Bowl ring! Stack Lovie’s head coach record for the Bears against Ditka’s record as a head coach. I think you’ll see who wins hands down.
I’ll take Da Coach any day!
by rtlittlejohn on Dec 13, 2009 4:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget
ron turners first failed tenure as OC.
by Jhitt81 on Dec 13, 2009 4:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't we all...
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.
by JoeCB1991 on Dec 13, 2009 5:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, ditka
the guy who did the least with the most. so much talent, such young talent, and he only went to one superbowl with them. i’m not not a ditka fan, but he wasn’t that great of a coach. he had insane talent to work with, and he didn’t do much with it.
by guy incognito on Dec 13, 2009 6:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Only Silver Lining
Was DA. Although seeing him do well made me think “Well what did he do to deserve to sit on the bench up until now, why hasn’t he been on the field all year long?” The end of the Smith era is coming…fast.
by GallopingGhost on Dec 13, 2009 5:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts exactly...
And I also don’t understand why our WRs and our QB seem to “mis-communicate” on nearly all of Jay Cutlers INTs?
Really? Come on. You’re telling me they haven’t learned a damn thing all season long? Way to go coaching staff. And Way to go Cutler… you’re the damn leader of this team… it’s on you to make the guys better.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Dec 13, 2009 6:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so...cutler needs to will the receivers to run the right routes?
i’m not saying cutler is free of blame, but how exactly is it his fault when his guys do something they’re not supposed to when he releases the ball? both picks today seemed to be cases where his receivers did not go where they were supposed to.
by guy incognito on Dec 13, 2009 6:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
At some point when are we going to accept the fact that the odds of ALL the receivers running the wrong routes
is pretty slim at this point in the season. Cutler just is not the QB we all made him out to be. I’m not saying he can’t get there at some point, but the underthrown balls the last few weeks are not “wrong routes”, they’re bad throws. The long ball was supposed to be his strong suit.
Also, when if a QB just throws the ball up and hope his receivers beat the DB’s all the time, rather than putting the ball in the spot where no one can make a play is a problem. I don’t want to hear about Brandon Marshall or Larry Fitzgerald or Randy Moss, those guys are few and far between, so if your QB is expecting every receiver to make those kind of plays all the time in order to get completions, he’s either an idiot or just not very good.
by BearFan611 on Dec 13, 2009 8:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cutler's the leader... he's supposed to work with them and make them better.
That’s the bottom line. If that means you have to spend a boatload of extra time practicing and studying film together… then so be it.
There’s more than 3 or 4 occurances of “not being on the same page” visible in every game played this year, and a lot of them result in INTs or missed first down opportunities. You’d think that at some point over the course of the season, they’d understand what they’re doing together? Wouldn’t ya? But, that’s not the case… they make the same mistakes over and over.
Even DA… the guy Cutler’s been begging to get on the field all season, wasn;t where Cutler expected him to be on a couple of occasions today.
Peyton Manning’s playing with young WRs right now. Pierre Garcon & Austin Collie. Very rarely do they have communication problems. Why do you think that is? Because Peyton lives and breathes football, and he demands that dedication from his teammates.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Dec 13, 2009 8:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Peyton also have,Reggie wayne,dallas clark,and one of the best O-lines for years now to help out those young WRs
As soon as the clots had him he was surrounded with loads of talent.Peyton did throw 81 picks in his 1st 4 years but he gotten better and smarter as the years went on.Jay is still young he should get better.But he needs help.If manning played on this team he wouldn’t last a season cause the O-line is terrible.Jay is use to the line sucking now son the clock in his head speeds up and rushes his passes.Its not all on Jay he is part of it and gets some blame.But we do not have a guy like a Reggie Wayne to help the young WRs get open.Or damn good OC like them.If Jay was on the Colts they would have a pretty good record.He needs the help if we had Holt. Knox,DA,and bennett would have that mentor to help them out.
by T.Moore on Dec 13, 2009 9:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We can debate this all night long.
There have been a handful of games this year where Cutler has had the ball in his hand with under 2 minutes with a chance to either tie or win the game. If you give the ball to Peyton Manning… on this crappy Bears team… Manning finds a way to win. Period.
And that’s the difference we’re talking about here. The leadership and will to win.
Manning is throwing to rookie WRs. You think the WR position coach in Indy is the one putting those rookies in the right spot? Hah. It’s Manning all the way.
Cutler has got to step up and lead the players he has and make them better. He hasn’t done it… and hasn’t show he has those leadership qualities in him.
Favre joined a new team with guys he’s never played with before… and his receivers are always in the spot he expects them to be. Why is that? McNabb is seemingly always working with new young WRs… and they never have the maginitude of communication problems the Bears WRs have. Why is that?
Look at the man leading the offense.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Dec 13, 2009 9:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"If you give the ball to Peyton Manning… on this crappy Bears team… Manning finds a way to win. Period." Ok
Im sorry but hell no.He can’t make the O-line block 10x better than they are doing.He cannot make Forte run behind that crappy line and run better.Manning is a great QB he is the best.But he is NOT a miracle worker.If he played behind our O line he might DIE,wouldn’t last the season.He’s a sitting duck he needs time to do what he does and our O-line will never ever give him the time he needs.Not to mention that we dont have Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark to take the pressure off the young guys.
Each of those guys you mentioned Vikes have a great O-line,McNabb a great O-line.they both have great offensive minds and RBs who can and will help them out.You put Jay on one of those teams he will do much better than he is now.you put Manning with one of those teams he will be great there.But with this team? C’mon man!A QB can only do so much he needs good coaching Jay needs more time with these inexperienced WRs he’s not Manning,Manning is one of a kind.The eagles have Reid great Offensive mind same with Childress.And BOTH have game changing RBs.Manning for YEARS have a great O-line that HE knows very well and can trust.Now can you trust our O-line to not let the other team kill you? All season long Jay was in pressure he made his mistakes he is at fault at some of his mistakes but he can’t do anything with this O-line on a consistent basis the O-line leads to some of his mistakes,and when you put the inexperienced WRs.They can’t even block the lions D.The coaching is terrible here.There is NO QB as smart as Manning in the NFL.Most of these QBs need to be coached up.When the WRs didn’t know their routes yet you can’t say that its ONLY on the QB its on the coaching as well.Do you think that ALL QBs can do what you said alone?
Also the Colts’ org is SMART at evaluating talent.Our org. is not.They have great coaches.We don’t. Football IMHO is the one sport that requres the most coaching.
by T.Moore on Dec 13, 2009 10:51 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
cutler can't spend his weak teaching his WRs route running
that’s on our coaching staff. yeah, peyton has young guys as well, who seem to be doing better. you don’t think coaching might have something to do with it? i’m not saying none of this is cutler’s fault, but the 2 picks today were so off that i can’t believe its not miscommunication. this happens consistently – our receivers run the wrong routes, cut the wrong way, don’t come back to the ball…if your WR coach and your OC aren’t coaching you well, you’re going to keep making those mistakes.
by guy incognito on Dec 13, 2009 9:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What do you mean he can't spend his week working with WRs
Just what exactly do you think the Bears do when they’re practicing on a field? They’re running the darn offense. Reps and reps and more reps.
And when they’re in the film room… they’re dissecting everything they did last week… and dissecting the opponent’s defense… together.
If they’re not landing on the same page by week 14 of a season… it’s the QBs fault. Period.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Dec 13, 2009 9:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
uh, no
he studies film and goes through practice with his team, but he does not pull out a chalkboard and teach the WRs to run their routes properly. that is not his job, nor is he qualified to do so (no QB is). this is why they have position coaches. these guys work extensively with their players on the very specifics of the position. to think that jay cutler should be doing that is absurd on so many levels. i get it, you hate cutler. but this line of argument is ridiculous.
by guy incognito on Dec 14, 2009 4:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Again... you;re not getting the damn point.
That is precisely what he does in practice. Have you not practiced football before? Have you not practiced a sport before?
You work on timing with your WRs… and after each rep… if something needs to be fixed, you say, I wanted you to be here because of this. Or, I was expecting you to do this, but you didn’t.
You think Peyton Manning just let the coaches tell Harrison and Wayne where to go? You think Montana just threw to some guy named Rice, because he was lined up there?
They work together on every idosyncrasy of the route… and hot routes… and adjustments.
Favre could give Donald Driver a glace or a nod right before the snap, and Driver knew exactly where to go. Get it? That’s the type of relationship WRs have with their QB… and our WRs obviously lack that kind of relationship with our QB.
I don;t want to piss on Cutler… but it all falls on his shoulders. There’s a reason it’s the most criticized position in the sport.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Dec 14, 2009 9:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you guys happen to see
When after an incompletion late in the game to Knox, Cutler went over to him and was walking off the field talking to him about his route? He wasn’t yelling at him or screaming, just calmly talking about where he was and where Cutler thought he was going (I was in a bar w/ no sound on the TV and I couldn’t read the closed captioning fast enough so I didn’t see/hear what Billick speculated he was saying) but I took that as a positive thing, that Cutler can be a leader and is willing to help these young guys get better.
Also I remember hearing about a month ago that after the first Packers loss when the team got back to Chicago at about 5am, everyone went home but Cutler went to Halas Hall to watch the film. I don’t believe Cutler isn’t working hard or doesn’t care. i just don’t buy it. He’s going to get better.
by GallopingGhost on Dec 14, 2009 12:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They will get better.
Lets just hope that next season they will be more used to playing with Cutler.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.
by JoeCB1991 on Dec 13, 2009 9:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If by week 14 they still don't know what they're doing.
Then… I can’t see much improvement next year.
Is it the WRs? Is it the coaches? Is it the QB.
I’m sorry to break it to you… but the QB is the leader, the general.. the coach on the field. It all points to him.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Dec 13, 2009 9:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this is getting downright comical, dude
WRs haven’t been coached well to run the right routes – cutler’s fault.
the o-line can’t block – cutler’s fault.
the RBs can’t gain any yardage, partly because of the o-line, but partly because forte isn’t running as well as he did last year – cutler’s fault.
everyone knows ron turner’s play calling – cutler’s fault.
the defense gives up points early every week, putting the offense behind – cutler’s fault.
by guy incognito on Dec 14, 2009 4:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Look man... you're not understanding me one bit.
Cutler was brought here to be a leader, a winner, a difference maker… and make everyone around him better. He hasn’t done any of that. Period.
I don;t care how bad the team around him is… there’s a common denominator everytime he has a “miscommunication” with Hester, or Knox, or Bennett, or DA, or Olsen, or Clark. He’s the one throwing the ball. Get it?
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Dec 14, 2009 9:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just because the Bears finally have a good Quarterback
It doesn’t mean that all of their problems will magically get solved just because Cutler is here. There needs to be a lot of rebuilding before the Bears have another winning season.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.
by JoeCB1991 on Dec 14, 2009 12:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not like we are saying that 100% of his picks are the receiver's fault.
He has been underthrowing his receivers more than I’d like lately, and a few of those throws get picked. There are bad decisions he makes sometimes that get me a bit steamed. Also, if he does anything wrong, it’s expecting the level of talent on this team to be similar to what he had in Denver. It’s not. He has slowly been realizing that and adjusting his game downward to compensate.
However, you have to realize that the chances of throwing a pick tend to go up when:
1. You have no time to throw the ball, because anything more than a 3-step drop will leave you chewing turf.
2. You have ZERO running game support to setup the playaction. It makes coverage that much tighter.
3. You have inexperienced WRs who can’t take advantage of their main asset, speed, because there is NO TIME to get seperation.
4. You are hurrying your throws because of #1 above. This leads to bad mechanics and poorly thrown balls.
5. You’re recievers, eager and talented as they may be, run routes poorly at times, which leads me to my next reason…
6. You have no confidence in your recievers, so instead of throwing to a spot, you have to wait to make sure they are open, which leads to tunnel vision, hurrying, and bad mechanics.
7. After dealing with all the reasons above, you find your team is down by 10-14 pts, and you try to force throws into very tight windows.
8. Your TE, which is supposed to be a safety blanket option, has a habit of dropping passes.
9. You have no big target who can go up and win potential jump balls. (oh wait, the coaching staff just allowed DA into a game for once to be that guy).
Maybe if Jay had just a consistant running game, good pass protection, or a decent coaching staff he could have the luxury of being patient with his young WRs and coaching them up the way Peyton does in Indy. But with so many things going wrong, it’s utterly impossible to do so. Remember, as T.Moore said above, Peyton was a pick machine his first 4 years in Indy for some of the same reasons that Jay throws a lot of them now.
I also don’t understand the criticism for one big reason. A lot of speculation happens when we argue about a player saying, “he’s better/worse than X. If he were on a better team, he’d be awesome.” In most cases, we’ll never know. We don’t know how Peyton would’ve done on our Bears squad. Fortunately, we have seen Jay on 2 squads. Last year, he was on a team that surrounded him with a decent line, a lousy running game, and great recievers. Result: 4000 yards and a decent TD/pick ratio, and many games won on his big arm. So we know that Cutler isn’t the issue.
As to your comment about leadership, I commented in another section and said that leadership isn’t a given. It takes time to develop and earn from your teammates. Not lashing back at Urlacher in the media is showing leadership, and so is not throwing his teammates under the bus weekly.
by ChiLobo#23 on Dec 14, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Bears are absolute garbage
I’m sick of it, I will not give a single shit until they put a decent product on the field. Idiots keep eating this team up, talking about the good ole days and keeping the McCaskey pockets lined with cash. Why would they feel the need to make a change as long as every game is still sold out?
by 815Sox on Dec 13, 2009 5:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Penalties
had a big impact on the outcome of the game. PI call in the EZ on Bowman was garbage, as well as the non-call on the Pack on an important series in the 3rd quarter. Jay’s Ints looked pretty bad, but I’m guessing he was expecting the receiver to break the other way in both cases. Chalk them up to miscommunication, just like many have been this season. The defense played pretty well, and kept GB from scoring TDs in the first half. Olsen cannot make a tough catch to save his life, and Omiyale continues to be awful at the fundalmentals of football. Lovie defies nature by losing a TO while challenging a call after calling a TO- I don’t think I’ve ever seen this happen before….pure idiocy.
We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead
by propheteer on Dec 13, 2009 6:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't know that 1st one...
looked like it was just underthrown to me.
by Jhitt81 on Dec 13, 2009 6:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Most INTs
are due to miscommunication, just happens more often to the Bears this year cause of new personnel. The first one definitely seemed to be underthrown though.
We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead
by propheteer on Dec 13, 2009 7:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And we hopefully get another year of it
since there will be a new OC next year, and Jay and Crew get to relearn everything that know.
That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.
by Ditkavsworld
by gaclaudy on Dec 13, 2009 8:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they can get someone Jay knew in Denver?
Then he could get some plays like the ones he had with the Broncos, and it would be easier for him to teach everyone the plays.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.
by JoeCB1991 on Dec 13, 2009 9:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and/or Bates
We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead
by propheteer on Dec 14, 2009 12:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet Victory
As The Packers roll on into post season. I dont even care if The Pack gets far, at least we made it, and The Bears didnt!! GO PACK GO!!!
GREEN BAY PACKERS 2009 NFC NORTH CHAMPIONS
by packer on Dec 13, 2009 11:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Dude,
From one Packers fan to another, don’t gloat.
It does not make the rest of us look good if you act like a troll here.
Bound for New York City: January 6-9! Can't wait!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Dec 14, 2009 12:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You sound
like a real loser of a fan if you don’t want the Packers to “go far.” Btw- you might want to change your sig, it just makes you look more foolish.
We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead
by propheteer on Dec 14, 2009 10:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts
We will probably win against Detroit, but i don’t seeing us win any more games beyond that. The receivers obviously are not being coached since they make the same mistakes every single game this year. Whatever is being told to Jay and the receivers, it’s obviously not being absorbed. The offensive line has been a bandaid all year long and why wasn’t beekman starting at guard..he started there all last year but instead they want to go with an experiment.
DA has showed that he has chemistry with Cutler and yet it took an injury to finally get him on the field. 100 yards of penalties will almost alwasy lose the game for you. The running game looked better, and kudos for not abandoning it totally.
Football is a game of inches. To call a timeout in the 4th Q, and then after challenge the play when you should know the rules of football and what counts as a catch and then lose 2 timeouts on one play is inexcusable. After the sack on the last drive..one of those timeouts would of been crucial to regroup and pick a good 2nd down play instead of throwing in over the middle and waste more time.
This team overall is just a mess and it all starts with coaching. All i am saying is Charlie Weis has said he would love to come to Chicago and work with Cutler..if Lovie doesn’t go..Ron turner and the entire offensive position coaches need to go and we need this change at the end of the year.
by Chitownproduct on Dec 14, 2009 6:47 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
From a Rams Fan
Please Fire Lovie, as a Rams fan, we will take him and put him in charge of something (D-line, DBs, LBs, D-Cord) on the D and we have to improve. We really suck. So if firing Lovie is your answer. I’ll take it.
Thank you.
by JL67 on Dec 14, 2009 9:03 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

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