The Festivus Airing of Grievances
by Mike Mueller on Dec 14, 2009 10:00 AM CST
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What more can be said about Lovie and the rest of the coaching staff? The ineptitude is nearly at Vinny Del Negro levels (shout out to suffering Bulls' fans). The number of coaching mistakes in the Green Bay debacle are numerous. The number of coaching mistakes on the season really gives me a headache. Lovie Smith, even with the Super Bowl appearance, will probably join Wannstedt and Jauron as former Bear coaches who won't be missed and won't be beloved 1/10th as much as da Coach.
Let's take this time to lash out at the Bears coaches and let them know how disappointed we are in their performances this year. Which errors have been the most frustrating? Which decisions have enraged you the most?
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Where's the "All the Above" option?
This team has gotten so pathetic, that I’ve lost my desire to talk about how shitty they are!!
Try coming up with 2 blog posts a week for this team.
by Mike Mueller on Dec 14, 2009 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
Even harder:
Try coming up with two blog posts every week without crying.
Censorship of anything, at any time, in any place, on whatever pretense, has always been and will always be the last resort of the boob and the bigot.
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by 14theofleury on Dec 14, 2009 10:20 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Multiple options
I was torn on which one to pick. It’s a toss up between Jay/WRs on the same page, and the lack of development of our draft picks. I chose the latter cause it has seemed to impact the team adversely the past three years since the SB.
We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead
Time to clean house
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Yeah, the inability to identify and develop talent is really what killed us in the end.
If we have talent, or I should say DEVELOPED TALENT, we aren’t in the situation we are in.
Since the Super Bowl, we basically have fallen off of a cliff.
1) We have probably been one of the worst-drafting teams over the past 3 years. We have essentially ignored the O-line (with the exception of C. Williams, who I hope doesn’t turn out to be an NLF bust). By the way, is Jarron Gilbert ever gonna get to see the field?
2) We haven’t signed any impact free agents.
3) We’ve gotten rid of two # 1 running backs who have gone on to flurish for other teams (Jones and Bensen).
4) We’ve gotten older on defense, and haven’t been able to bring in any impact (or quality) players, with the possible exceptions of Al Afalava and Zack Bowman.
I still don’t understand the purpose of Lovie assuming the DC position this year and taking over the play-calling duties. Was that supposed to be an upgrade over Babich? The defense seems like it’s gotten progressively worse over the past 3 years – and this year sinking to new lows.
"Yes, risk taking is inherently failure-prone. Otherwise, it would be called sure-thing-taking." - Jim McMahon
Look at the spread in the voting
This coaching staff has failed in so many areas it’s laughable. Secondary musical chairs doesn’t have any votes, but we all know how big a circus our secondary really is. If these coaches are not shown the door after the season, you will see a 1 or 2 win team next season.
D. Manning especially
He started out strong this year, and has been virtually non-existent since another round of shuffling began. I hope we lose out, just so it’s perfectly clear to McCaskeys that Lovie has failed on almost all levels with this team, and the time is now to land one of the available coaches.
We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead
Yeah
If Manning and M. Anderson are truly the athletic wonders that Lovie says they are, then they are not being coached to their ability.
Never trust a man named Danielle
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Dec 14, 2009 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
What about Danieal?
Daniel and Danieal
It’s Hebrew for God is my judge
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
Yeah I knew I was spelling it wrong.
But this isn’t Israel and it still sounds feminine. That was the joke.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Dec 14, 2009 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
many common names, not to mention Christianity and Islam have "Hebrew" orgins
so a connection to Judaism is tenuous and the reference to Israel is polemic
You truly represent your name.
The joke was that it is pronounced as the female name “Danielle.” Don’t try and go all biblical on me because I made a connection to the Hebrew language and the country of Israel. My point was that very few people know that the Hebrew definition of “Danieal” translates to God is my judge outside of a Hebrew speaking region. Your claim of my comment being polemic is a lame attempt to elevate the level of the comment. I find your comment to be polemic on my character in your attempts to accuse me of being a malefactor. See, I can use big words to sound like an intellect just like you!
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Dec 14, 2009 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
EXACTLY
I know this is an exercise in futility, i enjoy it nonetheless:
“My point was that very few people know that the Hebrew definition of "Danieal" translates to God is my judge outside of a Hebrew speaking region.”
Seriously? As if Jewish people are so secretive that the meanings behind their words and names are totally unknown by anyone that does not live inside the state of Israel. Call it a guess and I hate to be presumptuous, but I doubt Dane learned that information from a trip to Israel. I’ll even go a step further and venture a guess that Google may play a part in the proliferation of such closely guarded secrets such as the meanings behind Hebrew names and words.
No kidding.
My point is if you aren’t educated in the Hebrew language or in biblical names, more than likely you aren’t going to know what it translates to without the help of the internet in a quick response environment. Dane learned it from the internet, I imagine. What point are you trying to make exactly? My point was never that their definitions were “secrets” to outsiders or that Dane took a trip to Israel, now you just sound stupid and aren’t making a good case. Your definitely twisting my words into some ridiculous translation, maybe you should read what I said again. And for the record, I know what polemic means and I seriously doubt that you use words like “polemic” in your daily conversations, someone like yourself who uses such gems as “loyal bunch suckers” doesn’t scream grammatical intelligence.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Dec 14, 2009 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
pardon me.
Vocabulary intelligence not grammatical intelligence.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Dec 14, 2009 2:22 PM CST up reply actions
No, I learned it during undergrad.
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
I majored in Art
so I didn’t come across Hebrew name definitions very often.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Dec 14, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
D Manning should file a lawsuit against the coaches
For abusing his development
"I am not an animal!" - Merrick
Incompetence in Developing Young Talent
Remember when we drafted Jarron Gilbert and Juaquin Iglesias with our first two picks? They’ve sure added a lot this season.
Remember the Okwo/Bazuin draft? Sure got a lot out of that one too.
Is Jerry Angelo fired yet?
Wolfe was pointless
cause no one knows how to utilize his speed.
We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead
How about incompetence in IDENTIFYING young talent?
I’m sick to death of all these cute small school picks being taken 3 or 4 rounds ahead of where their value probably lies. We take Manning in the 2nd (Sports Illustrated had him projected as a 5th or 6th round) and do nothing with him. What about Bazuin? It’s like Angelo thinks he knows something no one else does. Every year we throw away draft picks cause of that idiot.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
The list of GM grievances is a long one
This list just picks on the coaches, even though Lovie does have some say in personnel.
by Mike Mueller on Dec 14, 2009 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
Bear scarfs
I heard the freebee at the game yesterday were Bear Scarves…. perfect gift for Bear fans to hang themselves with. Aren’t we all thrilled to have Jay Grossman. Rex’s taller younger brother playing for us, I am tired of people making excuses for this bum, He stinks!!!! That interception at the end and the loss is on him alone !!! again!!!!
Good luck in the playoffs Kyle, I miss you…. Jay Grossman has never and will never be there.
are you kidding me?
It wont let me select more then 1 vote…you are doing lovie a favor here by making people on select one option.
I hope everyone is on strike
And not buying any Bears gear. We need a change and that would be the best way to get it done. If they are not making money they will do something.
Merch sales generate less than 5% of total revenues
in major professional sports… concession sales most years generate more revenue than merch.
As recently as couple of years ago, over 90% of revenues for pro sports teams were made up of gate admissions, TV/ radio fees, and advertisements/ endorsements. Merchandise is literally pennies in comparison.
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
Regardless of the 5% impact
it still wouldn’t go unnoticed. Earlier in the year, different media outlets made it a point to announce that Jay Cutler’s jersey was the most widely sold jersey in the United States. Those statistics don’t go unnoticed and if people did refuse to buy merchandise they wouldn’t just brush it off because it was a small piece of the “pie.” Especially since the Bears franchise is one of the most popular in the U.S. as well.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Dec 14, 2009 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
I think that's the only way
to get real change in the Bears this year. To hit the owner where it hurts in her pocket book.
Well at least we had the 85 Bears
And the 90s Bulls as Chicago fans.
'05 Sox weren't too shabby
but not nearly the dominant forces the others were.
we chicago fans be loyal bunch suckers
I know but I'm a Cubs fan
so i didn’t count the Sox
I know. well at least a Chicago team won a championship this decade
I forgot we did have the Chicago Fire soccer team, they won a couple championships
I don't think I like your tone!
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Dec 14, 2009 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
Is his tone all wrong? You need a soldiering iron?
Price Check on aisle BOOM.
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 15, 2009 9:48 AM CST up reply actions
Nah,
I’ll just flop and get him sent off with a red card!
BAM! That’s how we do it!
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Dec 15, 2009 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
Arena? havent followed it.
chicago went undefeated right?
Yeah, I buy mine off of Ebay...
…so I can still buy Bears stuff, but the cash doesn’t go to the team. $35 for “authentic” jerseys that aren’t really authentic but you can’t tell the difference. 10 year old malaysian kids can really sew numbers on jerseys well! j/k
I got a Hester from there, a throwback Payton, and my UNM urlacher jersey. I don’t think I paid more than $40 for any of them.
Yeah i get alot from ebay too.
I got my Hester, Fridge, butkus, Benson(sigh), Berrian(sigh), and my aunts payton jersey from there
Vikes v. Bengals
Very instructive. Minnesota has a much better secondary than the Bears, yet they still game-planned to double cover Chad 85 all day. Result — he had 3 catches for 27 yards. Vikes win.
The Bears staff thought it was a good idea to single cover him all day. Result — he was unstoppable and it was a blowout.
too....many...problems...can't...pick...just...one
which tells you how thoroughly the coaches have failed, short of babich (wtf?). its clear many of the players aren’t being coached well (like the WRs). its also clear the schemes are not effective on either side of the ball. its also clear that we are not evaluating our own talent properly (like DA – and i be shocked if gilbert gets some serious snaps and produces better than any d-lineman not named brown). we make poor in-game coaching decisions. and all these problems feed into each other. they all SHOULD be fired. at least some of them WILL be fired (the entire offensive side of the coaching staff).
Offensive play calling pretty much says it all...
Was torn between Penalties and the HB Dive. Went with the HB Dive. The friggin run up the middle for little to no gain has always been virtually the only running play in the playbook. This has been the case for as long as I’ve been watching, so it isn’t indicative of Lovie per se, but an outdated organizational philosophy (as if we still have an O Line and Walter Payton and a Defense that can stop people).
The secondary has also never been viable, but we have seen Bears Ds have success even with bad CBs. problem is this league is increasinlgy becoming a passing league and we don’t have good enough corners (or wrs) to keep up with this trend. If we at least had 1 good player at either wr or cb, maybe there could be some improvement in practice (along the lines of you only get better playing someone better than you, but the wrs and cbs are both terrible)
Penalties are so obviously bad that I that it’d be a waste of a vote. But when a coach has been running a team for as long as Lovie has, one would expect a lot more discipline.
This was a tough one.... So many good answers.
I went with the problems coaching Jay and the Receivers, but offensive play calling and the O-Line came close to getting it.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.
Penalties did it for me
The other stuff that people mentioned are problems, sure, and big ones. But a lot of them have been problems before, and we’ve won through them. The penalties are new, and more importantly seem very closely tied to coaching to me. I feel like the massive uptick in penalties is what’s showing that the staff is losing the team and won’t be able to win next season. That’s the factor that makes me think we should get a new coach.
I voted clock/time/challenge management
My reasoning is that for all the other options, it’s really hard to say how much of the problem falls on the coaches’ shoulders. Obviously, they have to be held accountable to some degree, but at a certain point, they can only play the hand they’re dealt. Injuries have dramatically weakened a roster that wasn’t built nearly as well as we all though, and you can’t blame the coaches for that.
On the other hand, clock/challenge/time management is something that falls entirely on one person: Lovie Smith. And he has failed miserably at that.
I selected OTHER
So that I could say all of the above. The pooch wasn’t screwed in just one way.
"I am not an animal!" - Merrick
I voted other
Since there is no all of the above.
Incompetence in developing & cultivating young talent (see DA).
I piucke3d this answer because it was closest to what I felt I would like to change it just a little to just plain INCOMPETENCE! this coaching staff is a JOKE never in my 47 years have I EVER EVER rooted for Green Bay to win except for yesturday I will do what ever it take to get this weak ass so called COACHING STAFF out of town !
Has anyone mentioned that Fake Punt from the Packers game?
Dumb enough to warrant mentioning.
Dumber than the fake Field Goal where Maynard passed to Olsen for 1 yard.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.
cutler has taken the wind out the sails
cutler even with the bad o line mediocore wrs no runnin game he gave 4 games away byhiself if we won those 4 games things would be different more confidence i dont think he knows how to throw the ball away or just take a sack he hurt morale and the team has tried to play better but he screws it up time and time again the d played good at times cutler shot it down he is to high in the clouds like so many of the personel bashers i know lovie seems not to show hes pissed but he has to deal with angelo and the pressure of the trade for cutler point blank urlacher was right about one thing the bears lost alot of swagger but that left with rivera he knew how to mix cover2 with the zone blitz im sorry we needed cutler like a hole in the head .
I didn't think you single Wow did the post justice, so...
Wow.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Dec 14, 2009 6:54 PM CST up reply actions
wow....
I learned a new word though…. byhiself.
Price Check on aisle BOOM.
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 15, 2009 9:50 AM CST up reply actions
Indeed
But we should take into account the fact that this post may, in fact, be intellectually far beyond what we mere mortals can comprehend. Human memory holds, on average, 7 /- 2 items at any one time, hence we break up sentencess with punctuation. The mental prowess of one able to process 100 words in one go should be respected. Hence…
Wow #3
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
LMAO!
Awesome, and….
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Dec 15, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions
The one I wanted
wasn’t listed.
The fact that Lovie is owed $11 mil and theres a lockout looming so no change is going to happen is what pisses me off most. All of the incompetence could be gotten over if there was a chance it would end…. and I see none.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
Other: Lazy coaches
Complete lack of pre-game preparation. They just show up and expect talented but uncoordinated players to go make something happen on the field.
May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.
COVER 2
Jeebus, i could wheel out some random WWII veteran out on the field after a five minute tape session and he could pick the Bears D apart.
It’s a relic of a system. It’s equatable to the offense running the wishbone all game.
I’m pretty sure you could get a good Madden player out there and he’d do a better job scheming than the braintrust that is Lovie and Ronnie.
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