In defense of the defense
Over the past few days we have all gotten a little despondent with the state of our team. After a tough loss against our biggest rival, it happens all to easily and I'm as guilty of it as anyone. With just 180 minutes left of game time in our season barring any overtimes. It seems like a good time to discuss the bright spots so that we can all try to maximize our enjoyment of the final 180 minutes. Like all the good things in life it goes to fast.
I am going to start on the defense and will have to follow up on the other side of the ball in another post. Follow me through the jump and lets get to it. Don't forget to vote in the poll.
So I've watched all the games and looked at our roster, 53 man, practice squad, and injured reserve (IR). First off, and this can't be overstated, this defense is absolutely loaded with a bunch of football players that are both younger and more athletic than me. So right off the bat the Bears have that going for them. I say this because I've mostly heard but read too, over the past few weeks, people saying things like "I could cover Calvin Johnson and Ocho Cinco better than Charles Tillman" or "Tim Hightower would never have run past me like that if I was in for Tommie Harris" etc,etc... No, no you can't and yes he would have. If you could have done all that, you should be out there doing it and not reading this.
The Defense:
Line Backers:
Next year when everybody is healthy again, the Bears will have the deepest Line Backing Corps in the entire NFL. Our starters, assuming they are Lance Briggs(weak side), Brian Urlacher (middle), and Pisa Tinoisamoa (strong side) account for 10 Pro-Bowls (Lance Briggs 4 and Brian Urlacher 6), a Defensive Rookie of the Year and a Defensive Player of the Year Award. Pisa Tinoisamoa has led the Rams in tackles since his rookie year in 2004 and appears to be a great LB when he is healthy. A dominant trio.
With all the injuries in 2009 the Bears have had ample opportunity to evaluate the LB second and third stringers and have to be happy with what they have for depth. Jamar Williams 20 tackles against the Rams is a season high not likely to be topped this year. Nick Roach continues to play consistently and Hunter Hillenmeyer has improved every week in the middle and is a smart back-up. I see Hillenmeyer as a coach one day if he wants the job.
Line Backer is possibly our deepest position which is why, even with all the injuries, there hasn't been a lot to complain about this year from these guys. Who knows, maybe one of these guys will turn into a 2010 draft pick.
Corner Backs:
The Bears most experienced CB is Charles Tillman, at 6-1 and right about 200 lb he is a physical CB who leads the league in forced fumbles. Tillman plays smart and physical football, when the D-line is getting pressure on the QB, he is a big play-maker and one of the better CB's in the league. At 28 years of age he can still play at a high level for a while. I always envisioned Tillman making the switch to Free-Safety one day to prolong his career. As a physical corner who plays smart, he would be great back there.
The rest of the promise at the position seems to be pretty young. Zack Bowman has really been growing on me over the course of the season. He is young and seems to have big play ability. With less than a full season under his belt, I only see him getting better. The rest of the promise comes from Corey Graham, he's played well when we've seen him, and rookie DJ Moore, both of which we need to see more of this season.
Safeties:
The good news is we are stocked at Strong Safety. Over the course of the season we have seen Al Afalava, Kevin Payne, Josh Bullocks in this position. Al Afalava is one of our very promising rookies and played admirably in Free Safety position too. Afalava is credited with 38 tackles, 10 assists, 2 sacks, 1 forced fumble, and a fumble recovery on the season according to the Bears team site. Very promising for a rookie who has played two positions, good enough for seventh on the team.
Danieal Manning who has played Free Safety and Nickel Back this year as well as returning kick-offs, has 61 tackles, 17 assists, 1 sack, 2 forced fumbles, 3 fumble recoveries, and an interception. Good enough for second in tackles behind only Lance Briggs.
Defensive Line:
The D-Line hasn't exactly been a bright spot this year. It has to be said though, Alex Brown is a beast. He has a motor that doesn't quit and is our most consistent defensive lineman. While not being the prototypical speed rusher you usually see at Right End in a 4-3 defense, he has a tendency to make big plays in big games when they are needed. Brown plays great against the run and has racked up more tackles than any of our other D-Linemen. At 31 tackles, 8 assists, 5.5 sacks, and 2 forced fumbles on the season he is the best that the Bears have on the line.
Going into next year we have a lot of young people who should play more prominent roles. Jarron Gilbert and Henry Melton will have to be evaluated more. Hopefully we will get a chance to see Gilbert more this year. Henry Melton, who is currently on the IR, is another very interesting prospect that we have. He is another incredibly athletic guy who played half his college career at RB. He's not huge for a D-lineman at 6-3 and 260, but he looked beefier to me than Gaines Adams does. The Bears site lists Adams at 258, not sure that I believe it, but at 6-5 it is spread out further than it is on Melton. Hopefully under the tutelage of Rod Marinelli, these guys will develop into Quarterback killers.
Honorable mentions for Anthony Adams and Israel Idonije who have been consistent for us.
Overall:
The Bears still have a great core of players on this defense. Despite what a lot of people think, this is a young group of guys and there are some great athletes there. The Bears spend the greater percentage of their salary cap on defense. Look for this group to rebound in a big way next year. Urlacher will be back and some yet unknown players will fill the leadership void created by Mike Brown's departure. Hopefully this team will become the dominant defense that we all love and expect it to be.
The cover-2/ Tampa-2 while under a lot of criticism from some people, is just as good as any other scheme if you have the personnel, coaches, and play-caller for it. The Saints, Colts, and Vikings all doing pretty well this year use it a lot.
If you've gotten this far, thanks for finishing. Please leave your thoughts on what you think the defense did well this year and tell me what you thought of the post ;)
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I voted for AA
but i guess it would have to be the other 3 since they really haven’t seen the field much
I like AA too,
It’s hard to call since we haven’t really seen the others play, but I figure AA gets the edge since he’ll have 16 games worth of experience over the others.
If you were here in person,
I would hug you.
Thanks for not freaking out like the rest of the world. :] It was a good post and really showed that we do have some positives to look forward to!
Rec’d.
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
Injuries have hurt, no question, but
improvement will not happen unless there is an upgrade in the talent level. For example,the DL is just not very good. ABrown mayb be the best of the lot but he is not a beast. He could be a pretty good LE, but playing him at RE is a sign of weakness. As the assorted LEs (Ogun, Anderson, Gaines et al), none of them have shown enough. Ideally they find a real RE and move ABrown to LE. If THarris is not able to get back to what he once was, DT is also weak, no playmakers there.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Dec 15, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
I've always wondered why we play Brown
on the right side. Do the coaches just think O-gun is better at left than Brown would be? He is the best we have on the line and I’m glad we’re keeping him around.
I suspect after this year we won’t really be seeing anymore of Mark Anderson either, so who do you think will turn into the better speed rusher, Melton, Adams, or possibly Gilbert? I think that Gilbert projects a little more as a power rusher, but that has never stopped the Bears before.
Also, agree that DT is weak, that’s why I didn’t really mention it.
because you put your best pass rusher at RE
the blindside for righthanded QBs.
As for Gilbert, I don’t think the Bears know if they want him to be a DT or a DE. I think he could be a good DE, more probably as a LE as I am not sure he is a good enough pass rusher to be a RE.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Dec 15, 2009 5:03 PM CST up reply actions
For the rest of this season
the Bears hopefully will play Gilbert in both positions. Right now, depending on what happens with Tommie Harris, I would say we need Gilbert at tackle more than we currently need him at end. Provided that he can be successful there. What I hope doesn’t happen, is that they start moving him around like the Bears are prone to doing and he never gets settled at either position. examples: Danieal Manning, Israel Idonije.
Really looking forward to seeing what Henry Melton can do too. If he is as freakish of an athlete as I think he might be, I could see him playing all over the field. As a former RB, hopefully he has some good hands too.
I agree, play the kids now
see what they can do. We know what Ogun, ABrown, Adams, Vasher, Anderson, etc can do. Let’s find out what kids like Gilbert, Melton and Moore can do.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Dec 16, 2009 9:50 AM CST up reply actions
Yup,
I exactly agree. Goodbye Ogun. Next year Brown and Gilbert on the left side with Melton and whichever turns out to be better between Gaines Adams, Anderson, and Izzy.
DT will be a tougher nut to crack, need to find a FA. I think Seymour might be available, not sure if he signed a contract or not.
by Slowride on Dec 15, 2009 4:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
i really hope
pisa get’s another shot for the roster. he’s great when he’s healthy.
i’ve noticed AA has been really close to making some picks throughout the year. he doesn’t have one yet (i think?) but he does have a forced fumble. I’ll attribute the missed opportunities on picks to being a rookie. imagine how he could be next year with those kinks worked out.
AA could be really good next year. like scary good. like ed reed good.
kinda depends if he gets put at SS or FS though. one thing’s for sure, D Manning is better suited for nickel. sorry bud, you just don’t have it for starting FS.
i’m predicting AA and payne as starting safeties next year.
AA's development is exciting
Hope he has a monster year in 2010, think next year will be Jarron Gilbert’s comming out party. Definitely agree about Manning staying at nickel.
by Slowride on Dec 15, 2009 4:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I always hear people saying great things about Pisa,
I have nothing against him, other than what I read about him, I have never really seen him. Don’t watch a lot of Rams games and he didn’t last to long on our field before getting hurt. Definitely his stats are impressive constantly leading the Rams in tackles. Still I’m leary of that, only because Lovie and others tried to sell us some of the same BS with Adam Archuletta. Only time will tell.
I remember him really showing up in the preseason games and hurling himself at Brandon Jacobs with no regard for his own well-being. He also hit him low, which is what you need to do with a guy that powerful (Urlacher got run over). The guy just has a knack and a desire for making the tackle – he would have been a huge presence on our D.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
Nice post Fridge
Completely agree with you about the LBs, they’ll be scary good next year if they stay healthy. It’ll be great to have Lac back too, that is what I am looking forward to the most. Not having him and Mike Brown on the field this year was probably almost as damaging as having Bob Babich call plays last year.
I voted for Jarron Gilbert as I think in years to come that we are going to consider him the steal of 09 draft. Great post!
by Slowride on Dec 15, 2009 4:57 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Linebackers
Pisa was showing great promise………Briggs is always solid…..Urlacher will be injured early again next season, as always. A dislocated wrist?!!!!!!!!!!!!……Think Butkus would miss ONE game, let alone an entire season with a dislocated wrist?….
Let’s get a MLB with a MLB’s attitude and free up all that money. Don’t even get me started on our oft injured, looks good on paper defensive back field. Gee……Mike Singletary’s defense looked pretty good last night…….Wonder why?…..Because Mike does not play guys game after game that do not produce. Get over the names and play players that are hungry…..
Very nice post!
I don’t know about hugs, but you definitely get a rec from me.
How ’bout a nice, firm, manly, hand shake?
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Also wanted to add...
That I truly believe in the motto of things are never really as bad, or as good, as we tend to think that they are. While this year has been difficult to watch at times, the Bears are not as bad off as it may appear. So again, good write-up mate.
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Thanks Smudgers
manly hand shakes are good too.
It is difficult to watch all the raw talent that the Bears have falter, they’re going to get it though. My biggest curiosity at the moment is: who is JA going to trade away for picks? I think he is planning on trading one or two players away to get some picks, especially after using the 2nd rounder on Gaines Adams. He’s done it before, maybe that is why he seems so nonchalant about trading away so many picks so far.
Peterson will be a FA.
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by David Taylor on Dec 17, 2009 8:49 AM CST up reply actions
Changes are needed
Despite a list of players that sound good, the results are not good.
We need some changes in players and/or scheme if we want to get better.
Biggest Needs = Free Safety, and pass rushing D-linemen.
I think we all agree that we need to see if G. Adams and J. Gilbert can help us on the D-line. O-Gun and M. Anderson (and T. Harris) need to gone after this year. If we keep/re-sign these players, then we won’t see G. Adams and J. Gilbert on the field. That would lead to the same crappy D-line play that we’ve had for the past 2 or 3 years. Also, it would be a huge waste of draft picks and roster spots.
We’re stacked at SS, but are lacking at FS. Nobody on this team will be a good FS. I think Tillman would have potential there, but he’s staying at CB. We need to acquire a legit FS via free-agency! We don’t have a high enough draft pick to draft one in 2010.
Good post.
I agree with you that a 4-3, and also the cover-2, isn’t a bad scheme when run properly and appropriately.
I agree with you about our linebackers. There is a lot of depth there. But in order for that group to be a dominant one, Urlacher and Briggs have to be healthy. I hope next year Brian and Pisa can be. My worry is that Brian, while still a great player, is on the decline, and we don’t have anyone who can adequately replace what he offers in terms of smarts, instincts, athletic ability, and on-field leadership. If only we could put Hillenmeyer’s head on Roach’s body…
Safety position is stocked, but by what level of talent? We all know Daniel Manning is physically a beast, but either he’s not being coached right, is being moved around too much, or doesn’t have the brains to be good in the NFL. He always seems out of position, and uses his athleticism to make up for his mistakes in coverage. I hope we can see him blossom. Afalava can hit- I love to watch that. But hopefully we’ll see his coverage technique and overall field awareness increase next year. If we can get him to develop an instinct for where the play develops, watch out.
Corner- I like Bowman more and more. Corner is a difficult position to play, and I see him improving more week to week. He may not be the turnover machine that Chaz is, but I still like him. Again, if we are looking towards next year, why don’t we rotate Graham or Moore in more on some series, especially toward the end of games? It would keep Tillman and Bowman healthy, and get them some exp.
The D line is where we need the biggest help, though. It all starts up front, especially in the cover 2, and the line just isn’t getting it done. What I don’t understand is if we are going to let Wale and Anderson go at the end of the year, why aren’t we actively developing our young talent there? Why is Gilbert inactive at this point in the season? Or why haven’t we seen more of Gaines Adams in place of ‘Wale? You are right about Brown, though. He does everything good and has a great motor and attitude. A very valuable part of our team. So what if he isn’t a pass rushing specialist? That’s what Wale and a situational rusher is supposed to be for.
wale and anderson
are gone at the end of the year. anderson hasn’t shown any upside this season, and wale’s just old. remember, we have gaines adams, gilbert, and melton waiting in the wings, getting a year of tutelage under rod. best mold em when they’re young.
that doesn’t even take into account of us maybe getting one in the upcoming draft (or FA?).
brown’s the type of player who will mentor these young kids. if they pan out with rod’s help, we’ll have a young core of DE’s.
Definitely like,
what you say about the CBs, I really liked what I saw out of Graham in the past and have been surprised that he hasn’t been on the field very much. Seems like somehow he must have fallen out of favor.
While I think Manning has progressed this year at FS, I like him better at nickel. In my mind, he needs to be a better tackler to play FS. There is no WR in the league that thinks twice about blindly catching a ball in front of Manning. Plus he on occasion makes mental errors. Unless Tillman makes the switch, I’m not sure that our FS of the future is on the team yet.
While I think that Urlacher is going to come back more injury free than in past years, we better hope so. Because you are right, there is no other LB on our team who can play that position even close to the way that Urlacher plays it.
Nothing helps safeties and CB’s develop like getting 4-5 sacks a game and keeping the opposing QB under constant pressure. We need DT’s.
Dominant trio indeed
If our starting LBs can stay healthy (healthier), I think we can have a top 5 run defense next year and do better against the short pass.
Unless something changes though, I think we’re still going to get burned by long passes. We need lots of development on the DL, at safety, and the other corner. Tillman’s a great physical CB but he’s not among the elite in coverage, and while I like what I’ve seen from AA so far, we desperately need a pass rush again. I think the coaching is there, just need to develop some players.
Agree about the pass rush,
I think we have enough DE’s on this team to make it work. We need our tackles to not get man-handled at the Line of Scrimmage. If one of our tackles could command a double team, then our DE’s will look better and it will help the run game too.
Over-paid petulance
Great commentary thus far, however, at the risk of bringing a negative tone to this forum I think Tommie Harris needs to be discussed further.
Despite being 2 years into a nice fat newer contract, I have seen nothing from this pudding other than the “stamp-my-feet and scream until I make myself sick” childish attitude.
We’ve had the excuses about being hurt, playing hurt and so on… but this season we have been treated to the lazy, self centered, and poor quality play of a fat guy with too much money and not enough heart.
Giving attitude, cheap shots and missed practices/meetings. There is even a"thank you" article on SB nation about Harris pulling up as not to injure Rodgers like he’s a good sportsman… when (if you watch any game) you’ll see him pull up after the most minimal effort on most plays. It’s laziness, not good sportsmanship.
Adams and Idj played pretty well and will be good rotating guys, but with Gilbert and hopefully a healthy Dvorackec (sp?) I think we could get a reasonable trade out of him.
Couldn’t agree more about Alex Brown… beast!
Gaines Adams is a bust (also a Tampa fan – sorry, old habit), would’ve liked to have seen our 2nd round pick go for a more productive player (Derrick Johnson – KC). Adams has been getting schooled since day one.
Looking forward to next year, and seeing which nutrition coach, or conditioning coach gets the boot this offseason so Bob Babich can stay!
having read your points
I agree with some things. The biggest disapointment to me is the play of the front four. I had hih expectations with the hire of Rod Marenilli. To be successful in the cover two, they have to have pressure on the QB, and that just aint happening. Quality team are tearing us up by running straight down our throats, then dropping back and having too much time to find the open reciever. Games I’ve watched, Harris gets no push up the middle when the other team passes, and when they run, he’s bumped backwards by the center which leaves a guard free to take out a LB. The Bears are who Denny thought they were, soft. They had success, esp. Urlacher when we had the two big DT’s that the we let go right around when Lovie took over. They occupied the the OL a that let Urlacher roam free. Small and quick is Lovie’s philosophy, but it doesn’t work in the trenches. We need big strong and quick(good luck finding that). Start drafting lineman, and keep at it till we get a D line and O line that can let the glamor boys do their thing.

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