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The Bears Den: 12/02/09

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Where we're glad we get to play the Rams this Sunday.

Lance Briggs won't practice Wednesday, and is questionable for Sunday.

Brad Biggs answers reader mail... lots of Lovie issues.

Mike Mulligan: Only goal left is to evaluate the youth.

Potash: Could "super" coach turn team around?

Bears respond to Urlacher's comments.

Star-divide

Rozner: Rivera and Harbaugh should be on the Bears list.

Hall of Fame Semi-Finalists: Could this be the year for Dent?

Pace may not be able to go Sunday.  Why is Shaffer the only backup OT on our roster?

Imrem: Lovie needs some vocal support from his bosses.

Something similar in the Bears and Rams: Turnovers.

The World's Strongest Beer: BrewDog's Tactical Nuclear Penguin

The next offensive lineman to be drafted by the Bears has been found at FSU.

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I am intrigued by Imrem's comments...

does the fact that the Bears front office hasn’t yet come out in support of Lovie or the team signal that they are simply awaiting his ouster at the end of the season? Or are they just gutless turds?

When you find yourself in a hole, STOP DIGGING!!!

by LostInSTL on Dec 2, 2009 6:53 AM CST reply actions  

C'mon Man!

that’s effin’ hilarious!

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Dec 2, 2009 8:06 AM CST reply actions  

That's awesome!

At least he won’t get called for false start.

by boondock_saint812 on Dec 2, 2009 9:45 AM CST up reply actions  

That was just funny

He saw his QB getting killed and he STILL didnt move an inch.

by T.Moore on Dec 2, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

what's really bad about that....

he STILL looked better than Pace and Omiyale!!!

by BearFan611 on Dec 3, 2009 7:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Don't worry Brad... nobody's poopin on you.

And Rivera sucks BTW… this city needs to stop the lovefest. The only reason his defense was good here… Tommie Harris, Urlacher, and Mike Brown all playing at a pro-bowl level.

Keep an eye on former Bear Jeff Fisher… Titans owner Bud Adams has committed a breach of contract, that could let the big Fish out. He’s one of the best in the NFL.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Dec 2, 2009 8:25 AM CST reply actions  

fisher

I think I recall fisher saying he would retire after his contract with the Titans is up.

by vabear on Dec 2, 2009 8:57 AM CST up reply actions  

why does rivera suck?

i dunno. at least he looks/acts/smells like coach material. worked/played for some quality D-coaches.

by Hatchetm on Dec 2, 2009 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Look at his D in San Diego...

A very under performing unit over the last 2 seasons…. with very nice talent: Jamal Williams (hurt), Merriman, Phillips, Jammer, Cromartie…

They get to play with a lead all the time with that high powered offense, and they still struggle to stop people.

Our D looked great in 05 and 06 because we had a superstar at each level up the middle: DT Harris, MLB Urlacher, and S Brown. As soon as Harris stopped playing like a superstar, our D went to crap. And everytime Mike Brown or Urlacher was out, our D went to crap.

Now, Harris has rapidly aged to 45 years old, Urlacher missed the entire season, and Brown is older and gone. Hence: we stink.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Dec 2, 2009 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't get the Rivera lovefest

Either way, the decline of the Bears dominating defense would’ve meant doom for any DC. That includes RR.

We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead

by propheteer on Dec 2, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah... that's what I said below... I replied under the wrong thing

But… you and I both know:)

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Dec 2, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

rivera would not be on my top 10 list of lovie replacements,

 BUT
by all appearances he is smart and a good motivator.
he’s played/coached under buddy ryan, vince tobin, jim johnson, lovie smith.
do you think he might have a pretty good idea of how to run an NFL defense?

lovie’s coached under dungy and martz. lots of defensive diversity there.

by Hatchetm on Dec 2, 2009 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

What's the story with Leslie Frazier

DC of the Vikes? former Bear, defensively good

"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what make them the biggest guys on the field." -Madden

by BearNecessities on Dec 2, 2009 9:00 AM CST reply actions  

The story is...

He wanted to work for the Bears after getting fired from the Bengals, when he was DC. The Bears just lost their DB coach after the 2005 season, and there was an opening. He was a great fit: former Bear who had coached with DC Ron Rivera in Philly. He came on local sports talk radio and campaigned himself for the job. The Bears had ZERO interest, probably because they preferred crappy cheap college coaches…. the kind that litter their coaching staff.

Frazier ended up taking a job with Tony Dungy in Indy as an assistant DC/ assistant head coach. Helping to run the same defense Lovie plays here. Guess what: he beat us in the Super Bowl.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Dec 2, 2009 9:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Point is...

Whether Rivera, Babich, or Lovie was running our D in 05 and 06… they all would’ve like great coaches, because of the talent.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Dec 2, 2009 10:35 AM CST up reply actions  

It seems like

The Bears font office has a habit of ignoring former Bears players who go on to coach and are interested in coaching in chicago. Didn’t the same thing happen to Singletary when he contact Dick Jauron about coaching?

by Da Sassage on Dec 2, 2009 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep

It’s the old “Thanks for your service, but we’re done with you” attitude. Ignorant fools.

We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead

by propheteer on Dec 2, 2009 11:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes... that's an issue

It doesn’t really bother so much though. It stems from Michael McCaskey, and the horrible relationship he had with the 85 team… taking credit for their Lombardi Trophy.

The real issue is the cheapness. And what I mean by that is, everytime they hire a new Head Coach (Wanny, Jauron, Lovie), they go for a guy they can pay around the league minimum salary, and surround him with an inexperienced coaching staff, on small salaries.

That’s the real problem. Inexperienced coaching staff’s getting outcoached time and time again by other head coaches, and also not being able to develop the talent they are given.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Dec 2, 2009 11:53 AM CST up reply actions  

i think they outbid other teams for wanny

so its not all cheapness. stupidity is involved too.

seems as though since ditka, the bears have had very poor assistant coaches.

by Hatchetm on Dec 2, 2009 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I like the ring of Harbaugh HC

And to the Rozner article “McCaskey Snuggie”

Very Nicely Done!

by TheMan1 on Dec 2, 2009 10:00 AM CST reply actions  

FSU lineman

He’d be a perfect replacement for Williams after he moves over to LT.

We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead

by propheteer on Dec 2, 2009 10:46 AM CST reply actions  

BrewDog's "TNP"

sounds to me to be the explanation to all the “not so logical” ramblings coming out of Angelo&Smitty the last couple of years. That cat from FSU must have enjoyed one as his pre-game warm-up and like I forget who and exactly how it was said…but.. “if your on the IR you should be dead”. So Urlacher, have a couple “TNP’S” and shut up!!!!!!

"most football players are temperamental, thats 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental" Doug Plank

by fin4bears on Dec 2, 2009 2:17 PM CST reply actions  

The New

grass at Soldier Field has become a “highlight”!!!!! What’s it coming in, pallets or bags? Gotta have a sense of humor about now ya know. A little off of this particular post I know, geez! that durned BrewDog… I’ve been ambushed by a Nuclear Penguin

"most football players are temperamental, thats 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental" Doug Plank

by fin4bears on Dec 2, 2009 4:24 PM CST reply actions  

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