Game Recap: Ravens Whooped Us Edition
by Dane Noble on Dec 20, 2009 6:21 PM CST
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So, a few quick numbers, and a link for your perusement.
Jay Cutler: 10/27, 94 yds, 0 TDs, 3 INTs, 7.9 Rating
Joe Flacco: 21/29, 234 yds, 4 TDs, 0 INTs, 135.6 Rating
Lance Briggs: 13 tackles
Bears: 1 penalty/ 6 yds.
Jerry Angelo: No decision made yet on Lovie Smith's future.
Up next: Vikings
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this is the worse Bears team of this decade
all that talk about DA being the next rod smith needs to die now.
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Dec 20, 2009 6:27 PM CST reply actions
agreed
it’s like Jamar Williams 20 tackle game against the Rams. We need more proof
by frenchbears113 on Dec 20, 2009 6:36 PM CST up reply actions
By the way...
Thanks to all of you who used the flagging system. It helps bring attention to things that might otherwise get buried.
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
And thanks ifuwanna and No It All
for flagging this comment for some strange reason. You two are a couple of weird dudes.
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
LMAO!
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by David Taylor on Dec 21, 2009 8:25 AM CST up reply actions
HAHAHA
I can’t help but laugh at the ridiculousness of this weeks games. A Brown’s RB goes for over 290 total yards and 3 TD’s, the Saints are no longer undefeated, yet another escape act by the Chargers, another Raiders win, Rams and Lions played 2 good teams down to the wire and the Bears get BLOWN out by the Ravens. The Bears loss is by far the worst. It goes to show just how bad the team is and how piss poor the coaching is. Lovie seems to be content on never changing strategy and of course this is easily visible to other teams. I can’t even get mad anymore because watching this team and hearing all the excuses by this team is just comical and pathetic. I’d rather be a Browns fan right now because at least those guys threw everything they have at opponents for the last 2 weeks. The Bears have just laid down and curled themselves up into a ball like a bunch of cowards.
worse than the rams?
or browns?
In the Browns 3 wins, they’ve totaled 172 passing yards.
This is probably the most disappointing team, but far from the worst.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
Pffff, you and your facts
Trade Urlacher! Trade Cutler! Trade Hester! Offer a couple of players that no-one values for a player that nobody in their right mind would trade to us for that offer! (etc.)
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
Perspective is a dangerous thing, my friend.
:-P
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
and spongie cocain is a hell of a drug
by Bear Lovin 21 on Dec 20, 2009 9:35 PM CST up reply actions
I forgot to bring the Olsen and Forte hate.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
And then remind us all
That every single Orton Cutler interception was the obvious fault of the O- line, poor wide outs, bad play calling, act of god. Then please remind me that the future’s looking bright with the personnel we have on our current roster.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
No no, you’re doing it wrong. From what I see, Chicago meatheads hate everyone and everything about the team they claim to support.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
by Spongie on Dec 21, 2009 8:02 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Not you personally, just the thread themes in general...
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
Well we can only hope the changes
will come soon. I can’t take another year of this lay down Bears team.
sigh
the word “unwatchable” comes to mind. We wouldn’t have beat Alabama today.
the staff has clearly lost the players. I think there is a lot of salvageable talent for next season, but the team needs to be overhauled coaching-wise and in terms of talent evaluation. But I’m not saying anything people don’t know already.
Ron Turner QBs TD/INT
Turner has to be one of the worst offensive coordinator of All-Time. When an org pick a OC to run their offense. One of the qualifications should be successful development of QBs. Turner has none.
Rex grossman 33/36
Kyle Orton 30/27
Jay Cutler 18/25
Jim Harbaugh 7/11
Erik Kramer 46/30
Dave Krieg 14/12
Total 148/141
Mike & Mike, I think it was (or possibly Haugh), pointed out that Bears QBs’ ratings have dropped in the second half of the season in the last few seasons. Guess it’s likely to be a lack of coaching exposing the deficits in their game once opposition defences have had a chance to study them and the offensive scheme on tape, so I would put this as much on Turner as on Pep Hamilton.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
College level
none of Ron Turner’s QBs was good enough to make it to the NFL.
cough Jay Culter cough
your theory’s wrong then. Culter excelled in Denver only to implode once he met Ron Turner
Wrigley Bound in the Summer of 2010
Turner coached Cutler at Vanderbilt?
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
Well at least Bennett can return punts
So whats Hesters excuse now?
Games like this are proof god made beer so we can be happy
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
It serves many a purpose
I for one become a jabbawockee when I partake in drinking activities
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
blowout #4 this season
coupled with angelo’s comments before the game, i think its much more likely lovie is shown the door. this is preposterous. the team seemed poorly prepared and they were badly outcoached. just awful defense again…and awful play calling on offense.
I'm actually surprised there isn't another thread just from Angelo's comments
Money will not be a factor in this decision he says.
All of the sudden, everything doesn’t look guranteed for the lovester anymore.
by Chitownproduct on Dec 21, 2009 4:35 AM CST up reply actions
Probably trying to pre-emptively remove that factor from the conversation when they don't fire him
Saying money’s not an issue after they do nothing would be wasted. By saying it now they think it holds more water. But I’m a pessimist. :D
It's a shame
they can’t flex us out of MNF, as a matter of fact, I should write the FCC and object to such a public display of pathetic and atrocious football, its tantamount to broadcasting a death by firing squad while those in attendance to the execution participate in an orgy
Silver lining:
Hardly any penalties (Tillman’s PI that was dismissed on the TD notwithstanding)
I was dead on in my prediction during the first quart of 6 Bears TOs. I love being right.
Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN
*first-half game thread
Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN
You can say that again!
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
Not necessarily.
You’re JA and you fire Lovie and bring in… Cowher- you’re not going to listen to his input? I’m 99.999999% sure that all of the moves we made recently were not based entirely on JA’s decision. Lovie had input and contributed to those decisions. Would we be better off with a clean slate? Absolutely. Will Cowher or any proven coaching commodity come in with a willingness to work with JA or will they demand a change at the GM position- probably the latter.
But you can bet your ass that any combination of Shanahan/ Cowher/ Holgrin/ et al. + JA is 1,000,000,000 times better and more promising than JA + Lovie and all the other useless coaches on this staff at this juncture.
ding, ding, ding - you are correct, sir
Lovie has always had control of his staff, determining his hires, and I have always felt that the head coach has to have that autonomy with his staff. That’s never been in question. Do I have input? Yes. Like Lovie has input on personnel, he’ll ask, as he has in the past, about assistant coaches that we’ve brought in. That won’t change, I’m sure, because we’re working in unison on that.
"Why does Jay Cutler look so bad running these awful plays behind an incompetent offensive line?" - VeryFakeAlDavis
I moved to Chicago 3 months ago
and for whatever reason, have always had a place in my fan-heart for the Bears (even being from southern California). I was all psyched up to get really into the Bears and enjoy some football for the 3 years I’ll be here. Man, what a bitter disappointment. A friend who has lived here for 6 years told me to get used to it when it comes to Chicago sports. Drag.
One word...
BLACKHAWKS.
If you don’t watch hockey or are new to the sport, it’s time to start. You couldn’t have moved here in a more exciting time to be a Blackhawks fan. They’re the only team in this town that isn’t an apparition.
They have a solid coach, a solid GM, solid ownership committed to winning, solid group of core players locked up for at least 5 more years, and are an absolute THRILL to watch. I live in Indy and am reduced to watching the Hawks on bootlegged internet feeds that are mostly grainy and laggy, because every Hawks game not on national TV is blacked out here, but I watch, religiously sitting in front of my PC, because they ARE that good.
There will never, EVER, be a better time to be a Hawks fan.
i think its hilarious
that JA talks about lovie’s job security like his isn’t in jeopardy. I don’t think i have to go into personnel mishaps over the past few years but suffice it to say that it would please me greatly to see this team get throttled twice more and this entire staff gutted. That’s where I am right now, rooting for my time to lose so changes can be made. I know this calls my fanhood into question, and i understand it. I never thought I would get to this point, for shame.
Maybe
cause JA has been already told his job is safe, but not for Lovie.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - final words of Dexter season 4
At least its not as bad over here as over at MHR
They’re in a trash talking competition with Raiders fans, talking about kicking random Raiders fans asses and stuff…its really juvenile and funny…like watching the ship crash and burn, props to Neckbeard for a good game though.
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
After what we’ve had to put up with from the annoying element of the Broncos fanbase, I have to admit to a certain amount of schadenfreude at their loss to – wait for it – JP Losman and JaMarcus Russell.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
Hey don't knock Losman
He help the Flordia team win the USFL…or whatever its called
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
'Wale broke his leg
Good thing he doesn’t have to be on the field to witness the atrocious last games of the season lol
I was telling this to my dad while we were watching the game
By the way I live Maryland(this week will be fun).
Remember the 2000,2002,2004 seasons we went 5—11 twice and 4-12 but we were still competitve. We really played hard against tough teams and always kept it close to a td or fewer and we were rarely blown out and we have been blown out 25% of the total games this is becoming hard to watch.
Gaines adams feel free to show up whenever
At least the Bears don't get humiliated like this everyday.
Thank god we only play once a week.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
first game i've not watched since 1975
I heard the game was delayed due to weather… too bad for the midgets of the midway is wasn’t cancelled. I have seen every Bears game since 1975 when Bob Avellini handed off to Payton 3 times in a row and we cheered for Walter to get his 100 yards and keep the string of consecutive games going, thay’s all we had but at least the Bears played hard and punished teams even though they lost. The Bears had an identity of playing tough defense even though they stunk. Now this team just plain stinks and I decicided not to watch today and not ruin my Sunday afternoon, it was nice. Thank you to the McCrapskey family for the nice day I enjoyed…. I will not watch your CRAP anymore…..
I've been crying for Turner to be fired...
…when he was OC in the 90’s and was outraged when he was hired again in ’05.
To make RT the fall guy, (probably with Pep Hamilton), won’t fix much.
The whole organization needs to be blown up. Many of the issues on this team are related to personnel (O-Line, D-Line, WR’s, DB’s). Phillips and Angelo need to go, as does the entire coaching staff. Here’s how it might play out:
2010 – new OC, new QB coach, same Lovie – team learns new offense, and still sucks.
2011 – new coaching staff – team learns new offense (again), team ????
Our problems run DEEP. Keep in mind, that our 3-1 start included two missed “gimme” field goals, and we should have been 1-3…. Our luck ran out, and now we’re 5-9. At least Detroit has an upside. The Lions could finish next season higher than the Bears…
"Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The ones who win get inside their player and motivate." ~Vince Lombardi
by Fire Ron Turner on Dec 20, 2009 8:48 PM CST reply actions
Here is my take......The whole crew is gone!!!!!!!!
The Bears’ website posted the exchange between Angelo and various reporters prior to the game.
Below is the link……
http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=6417
This is the Bears website. The Bears PR are savvy enough to realize that they have to protect Jerry and Lovie if they are going to come back. They obviously did not.
If you remember, about a month ago a fluff interview with Jerry was posted on the site. This is a 180. They know the routine. NFL teams (including the Bears) are don’t promote discontent.
IMHO the McCaskey’s are getting ready to clean house. They can’t and should not announce the current team is not coming back. They need to keep the team engaged. I believe that this was an early Christmas gift to their fans. They are acknowledging the obvious; the current crew has caused this mess and they do not have confidence in them to fix it.
I hope I am right. This is all I want for Christmas Santa!!!!!!!!
by timeforachange2009 on Dec 20, 2009 8:56 PM CST reply actions
I hope you're right.
Thanks for the link. Good (and interesting) read.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I was just about to post that.
He seriously didn’t answer any questions. we need a parcells type as a GM someone who can give honest no BS answers.
I think he knows, he just doesn't want to say it publically
and it wouldn’t make a difference now with how far south the season has gone
Wrigley Bound in the Summer of 2010
That is the........
most interesting thing about the exchange.
It can’t be argued that this does not makes him or Lovie look bad.
That is why I believe this is important. The Bears have always been quick to jump on a player for straying off the reservation. Look at what happened with Devin this week. He came out on Twitter and posted an “apology”. It obviously was not crafted by him. It was done by someone in the Bears PR team. They control the release of all info.
There is no way in hell this sees the light of day on the Bears website if these guys are coming back.
January 4th can’t come fast enough…….
by timeforachange2009 on Dec 20, 2009 9:20 PM CST up reply actions
Its going to be a long offseason either way.
Its going to be an even longer one if Lovie comes back.
Meh
I could care less how much our GM talks so long as he doesn’t suck at his job.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
Parcells.......
hates the press. No NFL GM answers questions re their team candidly mid season.
by timeforachange2009 on Dec 20, 2009 9:44 PM CST up reply actions
yeah i meaning more of a football smart GM
player smart GM.
Confrontational questioning
Not to be argumentative, but if you said he’ll be back we couldn’t spin that any other way.
You got the point of my answer.
It’s not about money; it’s about doing what we feel we need to do to be a better football team.
I sure hope JA backs up his words with actions this offseason.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - final words of Dexter season 4
No he is making it clear when Lovie comes back its not cause of the money.
Thats the crap he is trying to sell right now.
Be careful what you wish for
Michael McCaskey could end up running things again.
Thinking about that again, that could be an upgrade
Ron Rivera having a working knowledge of three defenses is an interesting point.
Well, at this point and with our current personnel, anything but the cover-2.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
I figure any defense can be effective
Its all about calling the right one at the right time. I think Ron Rivera would be the best fit for the Bears. And probably Weis running the offense, Toub on ST. that line up works for me.
Umm...
every defense plays the cover-2 during th course of a game.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - final words of Dexter season 4
So, what you're saying
is every other team in the NFL runs it better than the Bears? Stats would say otherwise- Bears are 7th in the league in passing yards against.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - final words of Dexter season 4
No not every team.
But we sure don’t know how to use it on 3rd down
They're seventh in the league in passing allowed
because it’s hard to rack up lots of passing yards when you’re consistently starting near midfield, courtesy turnovers.
I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal Graves
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But not every team sells its soul to it
Our personnel, in particular, are suited to that scheme (small and quick). We saw how good it can be in 2006 when everything goes right, but it does seem to be a high risk, high reward kind of philosophy.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
Never denied that
It just seems like fans believe the cover-2 is the entire scheme when it’s obviously not. When referring to Lovie’s scheme it should be noted that it’s a one-gap philosophy up front. The cover-2 is their base coverage within the scheme, but is used only 25-30% of the time.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - final words of Dexter season 4
JA's comments are meaningless
There is a pot calling the kettle fired joke to be made but i don’t have the energy…
What did one incompetent fool say about the future of another incompetent fool?
Other than the previous mistake(s) of signing them to long term deals, I am yet to hear a convincing argument for retaining either Lovie or JA. That is apart from Lovie sharing religious and moral beliefs with Virginia….
really better here than there?.......expectations i guess
luckily im a bronco and a blazer fan......#52 is family
Ravens whooped us..
that really sums it up, I hope some firings ensue soonish. Just watching the parts in our offense move makes me(and likely Cutler) cry inside, and our D is just what it is, a pile of ex pros, failures, backups, and rookies..
Going to get worse before it gets better
No 1st or 2nd rounder to help fill the massive holes on this team. I’m convinced no matter who’s coaching next year it will be another long season. This club is an absolute trainwreck right now.
Were Jay’s INTs pretty much the same as they’ve been all year?
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - final words of Dexter season 4
the two I saw
were.
One was a combination of DA getting passive on the route and Cutler trying that “throw it through the defender” strategy.
The second was a screen to Forte(?) and Jarret Johnson made a damn good play on it.
I had stopped watching by the third pick.
Never die easy. Why run out of bounds and die easy? Make that Linebacker pay. It carries into all facets of your life. It's okay to lose, to die, but don't die without trying, without giving it your best.- Walter Payton
Coaching
He’s got to be drilled by his QC, OC, and HC each time he locks onto his primary receiver. It’s pretty obvious defenses are picking up on his tendencies.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - final words of Dexter season 4
Another Chris Harris INT
from Favre too. Too bad we needed that 6th rounder so much.
how did chris williams do?
at this point, i think that’s all we can do – think about the play of our young guys. couldn’t watch the game. did gaines adams or gilbert get any snaps? if so, did they do anything at all? omiyale? shaffer?
we can only hope and pray we get the same effort out of cutler and the bad news bears for the next two games.
because it would be a crying shame to have lovie back as HC or turner back in any capacity, i dont even want him to be the guy who carries the spit bucket around. Oops, sorry wrong sport, but you get the idea. If angelo isnt committing yet, and he is quoted as saying he will see how the season ends out before deciding, to me that sounds like simple math…….. 2 LOSSES=LOVIE FIRED
"You know, when you said that last time, I was kinda trippin right. But now...you're right. I am crazy...But you know what else? I dont give a fuck."---Bishop in Juice
by chi_till_eye_die on Dec 21, 2009 1:21 AM CST reply actions
Lovie will never be fired
Jerry will give him one more year. That’s just the way the Bears work especially with two contract years left and potential work stoppage in the future. But I agree he must go. His biggest mistake was letting go of Ron Rivera. He got us to the Superbowl with his defense and the Bears have been consistently worse ever since. Our offense has never been good so its no surprise Cutler has come here to watch his career die. I would like to be optimistic but with the current coaches we are not going anywhere anytime soon. Coaching costed us the Superbowl against the Colts.
At least the Vikings lost....
Besides the Punt Return, there wasn’t anything good yesterday.
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