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The Bears Den: 12/24/09

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...where we bring you the Wiki page for Tryptophan.

#23 was back at practice Wednesday... Briggs sat out.

Complete injury reports for both teams.  Extra day of healing may come in handy.

Vike's Allen sees improvement in Cutler.  Apparently, they're buddies.

Will Lovie Smith turn off the heat in Minny's locker room Monday? 

Think Cutler is worried about criticisms?  Just look at the picture.

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Favre and Chilly are back to being BFFs again.  

Weekly Q/A with Professor Jerry.  Not as laid back as a few weeks ago.

A. Brown asked if defense is outdated.  "This scheme has been going on for 30 years or 40 years...Now it's over? No."

Chicago/ Minny Game Capsule from Sporting News.

Seifert's Draft Rewind for the NFC North.

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Looks like Wale and Mark are gone.

O well I’m sure we can find someone better.

by Daseabeez on Dec 24, 2009 3:34 AM CST reply actions  

Anderson won't be

if a new CBA isn’t agreed upon. He only has four years of service, thus a restricted free-agent. I guess he’ll be gone if the Bears don’t match or offer him a contract.

"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.

by propheteer on Dec 24, 2009 10:07 AM CST up reply actions  

The first thing that came to my mind seeing the Cutler pic

“Hey big boy. I always liked a man in stripes”

Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...

by ifuwannacrownem on Dec 24, 2009 4:06 AM CST reply actions  

I wasn't a big fan of Cutlers before this year.

But if he gets the whole coaching staff fired. I will go out and buy his jersey. I’ll buy it off chicagobears.com if JA goes with them.

by Daseabeez on Dec 24, 2009 4:48 AM CST reply actions  

Same here

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.

No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.

by JoeCB1991 on Dec 24, 2009 10:22 AM CST up reply actions  

that looks to be

the plan, playing like crap will definitely get a better coach for him in quick.

by Da Sassage on Dec 24, 2009 10:40 AM CST up reply actions  

While listening to Dan Patrick...

I believe it was Monday morning, they (Dan Patrick & Peter King) were discussing Jay Cutler and King stated that Jay Cutler has become uncoachable and they only way he saw it was for them to clean house of all Coachs and get someone in there like Shanahan or his QB coach (I can’t remember his name he is the OC for USC) and get him back to his previous form.

I’ll stick my previous statement that Ron Turner and the Offense coach staff will be shown the door, they will be the one to the blame for the year. Lovie will be here next year (he’ll be on a short leash and may get fired if the season starts poorly).

That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.

by Ditkavsworld

by gaclaudy on Dec 24, 2009 7:11 AM CST reply actions  

Yeah it sucks. The only coach that should come back is Toub.

Lovie and his Defense needs to go or next year wont be much different.

by Daseabeez on Dec 24, 2009 7:38 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm a little curious

to see how Toub would fare as defensive coordinator.

by Da Sassage on Dec 24, 2009 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

The only way Jay can be uncoachable.

Is when he is with our coaches who can’t coach.

by T.Moore on Dec 24, 2009 8:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Bates

I think USC would be happy to rid themselves of him.

"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.

by propheteer on Dec 24, 2009 10:07 AM CST up reply actions  

I lied

He’s their QB coach, and calls (called) the plays.

"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.

by propheteer on Dec 24, 2009 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, The Cover 2/Tampa 2 Can still be effective IMO.

But when you blitz and it doesn’t work you usually do something different.But NO lovie does the SAME THING again and again. It’s the coach moreso than the scheme.Until late in the season when its too late thats when he make his “adjustments” man oh man.

by T.Moore on Dec 24, 2009 8:12 AM CST reply actions  

The tampa 2 is a great DEF

inside the 20’s. One of our big poblems is our CB are to slow to play in a man scheme. I think Tillman Would be a monster at safety. Once again the problem pretty much falls on Angelo and his failure to infuse young talent into this team.

by Jhitt81 on Dec 24, 2009 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Alex Brown's comments say it all

The Colts coaches knew enough to change things around defensively once they got hit by injuries. Having those two d ends doesn’t hurt either. Lovie is just too damn stubborn! Imagine if we had gone out and gotten Dawkins or Sharper. With either one of them we win that first Packers game and the whole seaosn could have gone differently.

Space Mountain on Three; One, Two, Three, Space Mountain!

by Mark Saade on Dec 24, 2009 8:21 AM CST reply actions  

Dawkins would have been great

With 54 going down, Dawkins would have been the leader the defense missed. Briggs was the best defensive player this year, but his leadership skills are lacking. He seems like the type to sing and holla before games, we need someone to get the guys focused. Seven games this season our opponents scored on the opening drive. Sheesh!

Space Mountain on Three; One, Two, Three, Space Mountain!

by Mark Saade on Dec 24, 2009 9:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Except Sharper

didn’t really want to come here. He didn’t exactly get along with how he was utilized in Minny’s defense; it would be the same, structured role for him in Chicago.

"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.

by propheteer on Dec 24, 2009 10:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Dawkins also

will be collecting social security soon…

by Da Sassage on Dec 24, 2009 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

That's the sole reason why Lovie has to go!

If you’re gonna point to one single thing… point to the safety position. The man stubbornly runs a scheme (Tampa 2), that is based on having TWO safeties to cover the deep halves of the field. The safeties are the namesake of the friggin scheme, and he can’t he find ONE safety to play in it. And there’s no doubt he’s been an influence in the personnel decisions. He told JA to get Archuletta. He told JA he didn’t need Chris Harris. He told JA to draft Manning, Payne, and Steltz. He told JA to sign Josh Bullocks.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Dec 24, 2009 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Great point

Another thing, in reference to Alex Brown’s interview, Lovie’s stubbornness and inability to adjust became even more evident to me after watching this year’s Chicago Blackhawks team. When they’re # 1 goaltender left during the offseason, Quenneville was left with two unproven goalies. Instead of staying with the same lines and personnel usage, he changed the defensive scheme of the team to protect the two young goalies. The result is, arguably, the best team in the NHL. They have several shutouts, and with all due respect to Huet and Niemi, it’s mainly due to the adjustment of the defensive scheme. That’s what coaching should be about, putting your players in the best position to succeed and developing your younger guys. Lovie has never been able to do that, even when his team was winning. I have always felt that he greatly benefitted from some incredible talent that he had nothing to do with and couldn’t develop them further or any of the younger players who came in under his watch. I’m not trying excuse Angelo’s performance, but I really think Lovie and his staff’s inability to develop players and adjust his schemes to their strengths is the primary reason we’re in the shape we’re in.

by BearFan611 on Dec 24, 2009 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Lovie's actually taken certain players OUT of the best situation for them.

Mark Anderson was a beast his rookie year as a 3rd down pass rush specialist. The perfect role for him to succeed. Then, Lovie promoted him to a starter without a contest, pissed Alex Brown off, and almost lost Alex Brown completely from a trade demand. Mark Anderson has since turned to crud. A guy with 12 sacks his rookie year has never developed under this coaching staff. Pathetic.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Dec 24, 2009 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep, and I note Cardinals 3rd round rookie FS Rashad Johnson (whom we were both hoping the Bears would draft) defended the pass that killed off the Lions’ comeback last week. Look, a real free safety doing what a ballhawking free safety is meant to be doing!

Our 3rd rounders: Gilbert and Iglesias. Next to no impact thus far this season. ’Nuff said.

"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy

by Spongie on Dec 24, 2009 10:28 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm surprised

AA wasn’t mentioned in Seifert’s blog. He hasn’t been that great, but certainly worth a distinction.

"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.

by propheteer on Dec 24, 2009 10:55 AM CST reply actions  

If we get a new coach or at least a DC that knows what he is doing.

I think AA will be ranked in the top 10 safties next year. Again that;s a big if we fire and hire the right guys.

by Daseabeez on Dec 24, 2009 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

MR. BIGGS COMMENTS (Phew ) re: Cutler

How much Brilliant brain power did you use to make that deduction? Allen made that comment and you made like a magpie. And you get paid for this level of reporting. It’s time for you to grow up and try to write—TRY— to present something with a positive outlook for the Bears fans to read instead of taking your juvenile, self absorbing, egotistical, Bears bashing attitude to print. Negatives produce nothing but more negatives starting with your own bylines. Just look at the brainless, follow the leader type of posts on this page. One person starts out with “Diahreah” of the mouth and the rest follow. Do us all a favor and leave your personal jabs out of your articles. You are making statements that you don’t have the experience or the intellegence to write about. You have been blowing your mouth off since day one of this season bashing the Bears and it’s not a pleasant thing to read. E.T.

by E. T. on Dec 26, 2009 8:28 AM CST reply actions  

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