Pure Speculation Here: Bears will not hire a "Name" O.C.
After floating three big name possibilities, Weis, Martz, and Kubiak, and one lesser known yet highly qualified name, Jeremy Bates, for potentially replacing Chicago offensive coordinator Ron Turner I figured it was time to go the route the Bears are more likely to head. Now I have zero inside information, this is all pure speculation on my part, but in keeping with the kind of hires the Bears make this name would make sense on a lot of levels. Tom Clements. Yes, Tom Clements. Yes, that Tom Clements. Oh, you never heard of Tom Clements? Well then, take the jump with me...

Clements is currently the quarterbacks coach with the rival Green Bay Packers. Now many of you will automatically eliminate him from consideration since he's one of THEM! But check this... His first NFL coaching job was given to him by none other than Iron Mike Ditka! That should cancel out any Packer hate towards the guy. Clements was the QB coach for Ditka's Saints from 1997-99. He was also QB coach in Pittsburgh under Bill Cowher from 2001-03 and the QB coach in 2000 for the Chiefs helping Elvis Grbac get into his only Pro Bowl. Before the NFL he was on staff at his alma mater, Notre Dame, serving as QB coach (1992-94) and WR/assistant head coach (1995) under Lou Holtz.
Before you start to think, ‘he's a positional coach, we need an experienced O.C.', he does have some experience coordinating an offense. He was O.C. in Buffalo from 2004-05, the following is from his Bio on Packers.com:
In 2004, the Bills' offense increased its points output by 152 and became only the ninth team in NFL history to score more than 30 points in six straight games. In addition, Buffalo reduced its number of sacks allowed from 51 to 38, fewest by a Bills team since 1999.
On an individual level, Clements' offense was highlighted by RB Willis McGahee, who became the fifth running back in Bills history to register back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons, covering each year of Clements' tenure. In addition, quarterback Kelly Holcomb set a club record in 2005 with a 67.39 completion percentage, surpassing Jim Kelly's 1991 mark, 64.14 percent.
I've always admired the Packer offense, through the Brett Favre years, and now the Aaron Rodgers era, their offense is impressive. Look at the QB position in Green Bay the last four years. Brett Favre was thought to be near the end after throwing 29 picks in 2005, then after Clements came aboard in '06 Favre brought his interceptions down to 18, then in 2007 he found himself back in MVP talk. He has Rodgers playing outstanding football this year after a real good 2008.
Taking a flyer on a guy like Clements is exactly the kind of thing Bears management would do. He should come relatively cheap, as he's not a "hot" up and coming coach, and he wouldn't be perceived as a threat to Lovie as someone who potentially could take his job. But his 17 years of coaching and his prior experience as an O.C., not to mention his extensive work with quarterbacks, is exactly the kind of coach the Bears should look into hiring. Would I rather see a splashy, more well known hire... I don't know... but I do know that a change has to be made and I still have my doubts it'll be more than just Ron Turner taking the fall.
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I could go for this one. No problems with it at all. I am torn on the following. Should Lovie have input/final say on the hire or should it come from above? Part of me doesn’t want Lovie involved in this hire but I understand that he and OC have to have a professional and productive business relationship.
by poolboy55 on Dec 29, 2009 10:18 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well
from what I understand the Bears do want to make Cutler “comfortable” with any new OC that they do bring in….So I would imagine that he would have some say (whether they listen to his input would be another thing)….
but back in late Oct/early Nov I remember schefter saying that the Bears were very interested in bringing in Bates and Jim Miller did say that he thought Bates would get the job after one of the Post game shows on comcast….Not to mention Moon thought he was at the top of the list….
That said PFT had a article from LA stating that Bates has been courted by many teams about taking over their offenses….So if it comes down to money I think they would pass Bates up which would be a shame only because Angelo said that he wanted to make Cutler comfortable with the offense and build around him….
Ah well guess we will see…..Heres hoping that who ever they bring in gets the job done….
"You want cheerleaders? Bah you have the Bears drumline that should be good enough for ya! If ya don't like that you can bite me!"
- Virginia McCaskey to fans complaining to bring back the Honey Bears
by CloudyFuture on Dec 29, 2009 10:30 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hire Shanhan
Re-Assign Lovie to DC, Fire Turner, Hire Shanahan (Denver will still pay 7 million of his salary in 2010, Bears could get him for 3 million or less). Take power away from Angelo or feed him to the wolves…… I know, to much common sense for the McCaskeys…..
by Brett Bear on Dec 29, 2009 11:05 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
When in history has a HC been offered or accepted a demotion?
It will never happen….ever!
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
by propheteer on Dec 29, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lovie to DC Why?
Because the D had made huge strides under him this year or the Tampa 2 is the next up and coming system?
He and his system are tired and need to be shown the door.
by TheMan1 on Dec 29, 2009 11:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who becomes DC?
Will Angelo have some power to hire a new DC and bring in a new style of defense after this terrible year by Lovie? I think Lovie has run out of excuses. First it was injuries in 07, then it was because he wasn’t calling plays in 08, what’s next? Does he have another best buddy he can hire?
by obanddoug on Dec 29, 2009 11:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Angelo
Has stated that Lovie has the power to hire and fire his coaching staff (even though there was a report that Lovie wanted to fire turner at the end of 08 but Angelo said you can do that but Babich would have to go as well; so Lovie blinked to keep babich on his staff. Dunno if its true mind you but eh)….
"You want cheerleaders? Bah you have the Bears drumline that should be good enough for ya! If ya don't like that you can bite me!"
- Virginia McCaskey to fans complaining to bring back the Honey Bears
by CloudyFuture on Dec 29, 2009 12:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The next DC would be the new HC choice
In a perfect world but with JA’s ever controlling mind, my guess would be even a new HC will be an untested, mild mannered persona who gives in when JA sticks his nose in things.
by TheMan1 on Dec 29, 2009 2:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Re-assign Lovie to DC??
LOVIE IS THE DC, RIGHT NOW!!!
He makes the calls, he sets the formations- he’s been the DC the entire season. Babich was demoted and Lovie took the DC reigns back in training camp.
Anyway, it’s time for Lovie to go. He’s a bad coach who can’t make halftime adjustments, he has poor instincts, makes terrible in-game decisions, can’t manage a clock, can’t evaluate players worth a damn… he’s a terrible, terrible coach.
So while bringing in a OC is (hopefully) a fore-gone conclusion, it seems to me that we ought to find a HC replacement first, then start putting into place the rest of pieces, based on the HC’s input. Brining in an OC now, before a new HC is named, seems a little like putting the cart in front of the horse.
When we bring in a HC, he’ll surely want some say, and he’ll definitely want to bring in coordinators that buy into and enable his coaching philosophy.
With ALLLLL that being said, I like the guy you mentioned. Seems like someone we would want- if all we’re going to do is change the OC.
by Skags on Dec 29, 2009 11:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That is not how it works.
If we hire shannahan and pay him 3mil the broncos would pay him 4mil. Why would he work for what he could make sitting at his office in denver? Shannahan will get at least 8 mil.
by Jhitt81 on Dec 29, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's funny you brought this guy up
My friend and I have had conversations about bringing Joe Philbin (GB OC) on board as HC if Lovie is fired. He’s got a great track record guiding a very successful offense, and developing young QBs.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
by propheteer on Dec 29, 2009 11:16 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well
You can have Joe Philbin as long as you realize that he has not helped the trenches creating league high sack OL this year with 50 so far.
by tkiller314 on Dec 29, 2009 12:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure
but he doesn’t do the drafting for the team, nor handles personnel changes. Their offense is running on all cylinders since the O-line has been stabilized.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
by propheteer on Dec 29, 2009 12:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I appreciate the intentions of this post,
cause i feel like few people actually differentiate between what is realistic and what they want to happen, ie the hiring of a no name v. the return of Iron Mike as OC( who i love for being the only person to pick the Bears last night).
That being said, Clements’ bio/CV sounds good, but we could F that up in a hot minute. What irks me is that this guy would be cheap, super cheap even at OC. The $1 Billion organisation that I love is unwilling to spend the additional $100K to get an established OC. I don’t really know any of the obscure potential OCs personally, all i simply want is the best man for the job and I get a sneaking suspicion Clements aint it, which somehow realistically gives him and advantage….
by No It All on Dec 29, 2009 11:17 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Actually...
This makes perfect sense. He’s coached all over the Offense, he’s expercienced as QB coach and can be had at a cheap price. Can he really do any worse than Ron Turner?
With the possible upcoming Lock-out, every owner will want to minimize the amount they must spend, such as coachs. Lovie won’t be going anywhere till after the CBA is cleared up. McClasky will want to spend as little possible while attempting to please the fan base, meaning bye bye Ron.
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by gaclaudy on Dec 29, 2009 11:24 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
outside the box
I’m tired of using the Bears for training inexperienced OC’s, DC’s and HCs. Aren’t you?
Yep, I know the Bears owners are cheap.
Perhaps it’s time for a change in the way they think, and in the thinking of Bears fans that we must accept whatever the owners feed us.
"I am not an animal!" - Merrick
by Maelvampyre on Dec 29, 2009 11:56 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
For what it's worth
(and I’m not discounting your recommendation)
But I’d rather the Bears cut one overpaid player and used that money on COACHING!!!!!!
Case in point: When Ken whisenhunt took over in Arizona he wanted to bring O-Line coach Russ Grimm over with him from the Steelers. Grimm is one of the best in the business.
Grimm wanted a million per. The Cardinals (not surprisingly) had a reputation for paying coaches cheaply (head and assistant). Especially the assistant coaches.
Whisenhunt held firm. He’d come over as the HC is the Cards ponied up the money for Grimm.
The Cards caved in.
End result? He took a over a crappy O-Line and the biggest weak spot on the team and has turned them into a very productive unit.
Being CHEAP with coaches is being STUPID!
by axthelm on Dec 29, 2009 11:58 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
HIRE!
Mike Heimerdinger! He has worked wonders with Vince Young, and has helped Chris Johnson in his 2000 yrd campaign. I’d even take Heimerdinger as HC I’m sure he’d be cheap. Plus he has a relationship with Jay Cutler. It makes too much sense.
by Howie S on Dec 29, 2009 12:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That would be a Lateral move for him
which is not allowed. They would have to call him assistant Head Coach/OC plus pay BIG TIME DOLLARS. Don’t think that will happen.
The allowing way the Bears are going to replace the current OC is with an unemployed OC or a position coach. The expection to this would be to hire an OC from the College level or get a Unemployed HC from the College level.
The better solution might be to wait and see which Pro Level HC is fired (Jim Zorn) and hire him as the OC next year.
That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.
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by gaclaudy on Dec 29, 2009 2:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lateral moves ARE allowed
They require the new team to name the coach as the “OC/Assistant HC” for example.
’Assistant HC is a meaningless title. It does NOT mean you have to pay BIG TIME DOLLARS.
It’s simply a way to get around ‘lateral moves.’
It happens all the time in the NFL.
by axthelm on Dec 29, 2009 5:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The question then is...
Why would he leave his current job? It would require a pay raise from what he is making now, and the Titans could just simply match our offer.
That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.
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by gaclaudy on Dec 29, 2009 6:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it depends if the Bears want another Asst/HC on the staff
they already have Marinelli
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 30, 2009 9:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If we don't fire Lovie, it may not even matter who we hire as OC
If Lovie doesn’t get canned till after 2010. Jay will go through 3 OCs in three years, and be all screwed up, when we hire a new staff in 2011.
You need to clean house now and put Cutler in the best position possible.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Dec 29, 2009 12:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That is why I was thinking of the OC from USC...
Jeremy Bates.
He was Cutler’s QB coach in Denver, he runs a pro style offense in USC, & he is from the Shanahan coaching tree. I think he would be the ideal fit for our new OC.
That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.
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by gaclaudy on Dec 29, 2009 2:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bates would be a good idea too
In case you missed it, I touched on his a while back;
Is Jeremy Bates a possibility for Bears O.C.?
I think he did a good job with a true freshman QB at USC, he was bashed a bit by the Trojan fan base and media, but his offense was perfect for their situation
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 30, 2009 9:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's hope that Lovie or JA reads this blog then...
anyone want to email it to them?
That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.
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by gaclaudy on Dec 30, 2009 9:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
According to Schefter
He is on the top of the list to replace turner (stated this on ESPN back in late Nov)…Problem is that he is also being pursued by other NFL teams that will most likely drive his price up…..
"You want cheerleaders? Bah you have the Bears drumline that should be good enough for ya! If ya don't like that you can bite me!"
- Virginia McCaskey to fans complaining to bring back the Honey Bears
by CloudyFuture on Dec 30, 2009 10:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You are exactly right.
My feeling is, and I know people will want to shoot me for saying this, if Lovie doesn’t go then I’d prefer to see them keep Turner. It doesn’t make any sense to me to change coordinators when your HC is a lame duck. I don’t see the Bears improving significantly under Lovie, which means another year of missing the playoffs. I can’t see them going ahead of the Vikings or the Packers next year with Lovie as HC. If that is, indeed, the case, then he’s definitely gone after 2010 and, as you said, a whole new group comes in at that time.
If we’re going to develop the group we have and bring any new players on to contribute right away, I don’t see any way you can accomplish that with Lovie at the helm.
I hope the McCaskey’s understand that keeping this staff is just postponing the inevitable and wasting your most valuable asset (Cutler) for another year.
by BearFan611 on Dec 29, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If WCG gave prizes for comments...
This would be comment of the day. Because while Lovie’s at the helm nothing else matters. We already have to pray that he hasn’t ruined Cutler’s psyche forever, if that’s how you spell it.
by Big Ike on Dec 29, 2009 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Taking nothing away from SackMan...
But I think JerBear would have taken that award today. In case you missed it, it’s the green one with 11 recs on this page… Absolute classic!
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by smudgers on Dec 29, 2009 3:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Missed that one
Made my day.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
by xarker on Dec 30, 2009 1:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad you like our QB coach, but you can't have him.
There, I said it.
by hollycrat on Dec 29, 2009 1:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Oh boy, he helped mentor Kordell Stewart?
Next.
Is Jerry Angelo fired yet?
Is Vinny Del Negro fired yet?
by ES46NE10 on Dec 29, 2009 2:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Lovie Still Needs To Go
I really dont care who they hire, just get me a coach that shows some emotion, and a good o-line I watched the game and one win doesnt change my mind lovie must go
by cutlersbutler on Dec 30, 2009 10:33 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

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