Notes, Scribbles, and Things Jotted Down: Vikings Edition, Part II
by Dane Noble on Dec 29, 2009 8:29 AM CST
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Before the Bears/ Vikings game even started, Soldier Field was rocking out with hardcore Bears fans, and more had spilled over into the parking lots- a "full house despite the fact that we have been playing terrible" sort of atmosphere.
Stop buying tickets? Stop buying merchandise? Wear bags over our heads? Root for the Bears to lose so that we can start cleaning house? Maybe some of you felt that way, but you were in the vast minority... last night, despite all of the things that Bears fans have experienced in 2009, true football fans showed up and supported their team. And the team happened to show up as well.
- Stat line of the night: Jared Allen, 2 tackles, 1 QB hit. And that's all. Just like Orlando Pace handled him in the first meeting, Chris Williams took care of the Mullett last night. Possibly the most significant performance all night.
- Good to see Desmond Clark getting targeted more. We mentioned in the preseason that he was showing great hands and toughness after the catch, but has been under-utilized most of the year. He looked good last night.
- Rashied Davis showed great hands last night. That's twice this year (sort of) that he has shown good hand-eye coordination and dexterity. More on Rashied shortly.
- As we mentioned before, Greg Olsen loves to ask for pass interference flags. Granted, when the guy is double-covered a majority of the time, he's gonna draw some contact, but jeesh. You can almost expect him to throw his hands up to a ref anytime he doesn't catch a ball.
- Tim Shaw continues to impress on STs. He might be the special teams co-captain next year.
- Tommie Harris looked strong again last night.... nice to see him fired up. The only thing I kept noticing about him though, he seems to be slow getting off the ball on the snap. Several times, the other DLinemen would fire off the ball well before Tommie.
- Israel Idonije should have gotten a game ball. Defense, special teams... all around great game for him.
- One thing I have been saying all season long was how our terrible OL prevented our offense from being able to take advantage of Jay Cutler's play-action talents (by not having a respectable running game). I maintain that Cutler is one of the best play-action QBs in the game, and last night, we finally got to see it, and it was beautifully effective.
- Also, we saw a bit of no-huddle by Ron Turner. He seemed to be trying a few things out of the norm last night. It's amazing what you can do when the OL is playing well!
- Anthony Adams can really move. I like that guy a lot. He plays hard every play, and never seems to get winded.
- Is Kahlil Bell making a case to be the #2 guy next year?
- First half yards: Chicago 225, Minny 82
- If Devin Aromashodu is going to be the guy for 2010, who will not be back on the roster for 2010?
- Jamar Williams very aggressive on STs coverage.
- Mike Tirico: ball cap + suit = silly looking.
- Dropped passes really hurt the Vikes.
- Danieal Manning continues to impress at KORs.
- As far as I'm concerned, Charles Tillman might be the most over-paid player on our roster. Have you seen his contract? 2009: $2.25 million, 2010: $3.35 million, 2011: $3.4 million, 2012: $3.5 million, 2013: $7.95 million (+ $550,000 roster bonus), 2014: Free Agent.
- Good to see Craig Steltz hold his own last night.
And finally, a parting note about Rashied Davis. Early in the year, I remember seeing a pre-game huddle on the Bears sideline, with Rashied right in the middle, getting in players' faces, getting people pumped up. I had never seen that before, but realized that we don't see a whole lot of what goes on in the locker room and on the sidelines.
Well, a buddy of mine had some really great seats last night, and kept texting me about Rashied. Apparently, he is a huge motivator for not just the offensive players, but STs and defense as well. He continually was pumping up his fellow players, congratulating at times, and yelling at others. He gathered the OL and DL around him on different occasions, and they responded to him very well.
I heard that he was one of the emotional leaders of the team, but had no idea the extent of his influence. We always hear about different guys, Urlacher, Kreutz, etc., but apparently, it is quite common to see Rashied getting folks fired up. It's easy to root against they guy when he's out dropping passes... but when we hear how much everyone respects and responds to him, it feels good.
What did you all see last night that is worth mentioning?
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What did you all see last night that is worth mentioning?
The fact that Brett Favre’s team is plummeting!
Wrigley Bound in the Summer of 2010
Things that I noted during the game:
1) Williams manhandled Jared Allen last night, of course he got chips and chucks from TE’s and RB to help, but on the rare occasion that Williams was man2man with Allen last night he directed forced him out of Cutler last night. Good game for Williams.
2) Anderson played the game of his life last night. He harrassed Favre all night long.
3) DA will be back next year, and will be listed as the #1 WR. He makes the plays and is Jay’s favorite target. The question is what to do with Hester/Knox. Both are the same type of player. I have a feeling that Hester is the odd man out.
4) I don’t know if it was Turner’s play calling or Cutler audibling out at the line, but they finally started to play to Cutler’s strengths. Play action, roll out with double slants (over & under routes) and go routes. Like I said last night, someone finally loan Turner Madden 09, where he was able to copy the plays from there.
5) And finally we saw Forte running hard and the O-line making some holes for him. I remember one play where he actually got through the line and had this look like, OMG I can keep running. Maybe William/Omyiale on the Left side might be finally working out.
All in All good game. But I knew we left too much time on the clock in the fourth quarter when we scored the go ahead TD. Did anyone think that Favre wouldn’t make that drive?
That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.
by Ditkavsworld
hey at least we scored..
I was thinking the same thing too when we scored too quickly… but when you go 6 games without a 4th quarter score, you take what you can get.
How about a TO by Lovie?
I just don’t get his mentality.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
what i saw
a bears team that finally looked motivated, and still should have lost.
a defense that gave up 30 in the second half.
a decent offensive line when chris williams is playing his correct position.
matt forte looking shifty.
cutler showing what he can do when he a) is given the right tools b) is given plays in which he can be mobile c) is given decent protection
yet another reason lovie and angelo should be fired with malice.
I gotta give it to you, Dane.
(on November 25th)
btw, write it down
vikes will lose 4 of their final 6
not that it matters
they still take the north at 11-5
but they will lose in the 1st round
So far, you’re right on track. Helluva prediction.
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by David Taylor on Dec 29, 2009 8:45 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
LOL
Doing some archive digging huh?
The only important part of that though is the very last line. :)
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
simple search, my man.
But when you said it, I was thinking you were a tad crazy! I bow to your greatness, and will never doubt you again. :)
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by David Taylor on Dec 29, 2009 9:06 AM CST up reply actions
This was a great Bears win...
but do note that the Vikings played badly and have been playing badly the past few weeks. It is nice to see the wheels come off the Viqueens bandwagon. To me, this win shows the depth of heart, pride, and talent that is within the players on this Bears team. It should be obvious that Lovie and his crew (except for Toub) have to go. This win was all about the players rising up and showing to the world that they can play, but they are coached to lose! Now more than at any other time this season, Lovie’s conservative incompetence shows up and should be all that is necessary to have him and his staff shown the door. FIRE LOVIE NOW!
When you find yourself in a hole, STOP DIGGING!!!
I was wondering the same thing...
Were our O & D lines that dominant, or are the Vikings just playing badly? Maybe it’s a combination of different things going on. Anyway, I was glad to see Jared Allen look average against us, for a change. And I guess Cutler didn’t just have a man-crush on DA for no reason. The guy can really step up and make big plays.
"Yes, risk taking is inherently failure-prone. Otherwise, it would be called sure-thing-taking." - Jim McMahon
Cutler is a better talent evaluator than the coaches.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.
And good write up.
Glad to see our young guys step up… makes me hopeful.
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MVP
The play that keeps sticking out in my head is when our long snapper gets the very athletic special teams tackle on the punt in the 3rd (maybe 4th) quarter. A guy like that can’t be replaced.
I like the story about Rashied. Perhaps he’s due some credit.
Hester, DA, Knox, and Bennett is a fine WR corps in my opinion. People have been asking for WRs all season, but I think if you give them 3-4 seconds to get open, they do. I don’t see this as the most important need in the off-season.
by ClawsClawsClaws on Dec 29, 2009 8:55 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I agree about the WR's
Give the guys some time (both in reps and to get open) and we have our WR’s set for a long time.
And that clothesline that Mannely had was phenomenal.
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by David Taylor on Dec 29, 2009 9:09 AM CST up reply actions
rec'd
I’m really convinced we have what we need in our current WR group. Aromashodu had 7 receptions, 150 yards, and a TD — when was the last time a Bear had that? The difference to me is the 3+ seconds Cutler was getting in the pocket. With time, he can get it to the right man — and he can also throw it hard enough to stick!
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The play that keeps sticking out in my head is when our long snapper gets the very athletic special teams tackle on the punt in the 3rd (maybe 4th) quarter. A guy like that can’t be replaced.
No he can not be replaced. Good eye. Great tackle, but I expect nothing less out of our MVP.
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by Ditkavsworld on Dec 29, 2009 9:23 AM CST up reply actions
Hmmm...Well
Really impressed at how well Williams played allen last night as a I thought allen was going to eat him alive….
Still amazes me that Cutler had been pretty much screaming for DA to get on the field and now we get to see what Cutler saw in DA….
turner called a decent game last night except that one series where he called a WR screen to Bennett for a 2 yard gain then followed up that call with a screen to Forte for negative yardage that the minny D saw coming a mile away….The 2nd half play calling from Turner was not to hot IMO but eh…..
Why the hell did Lovie fall back into a zone for most if not all of the 2nd half (or thats what it looked like)….
Thought Anderson played decent with some pressures here and there….
Cutler still not mentioning or backing Turner from what I got in the post game PC….
Still hope that every one gets fired at the end of the season but I have to imagine that this game might have saved Lovie’s/Jerry’s job (IF it was in jeopardy) …
"You want cheerleaders? Bah you have the Bears drumline that should be good enough for ya! If ya don't like that you can bite me!"
- Virginia McCaskey to fans complaining to bring back the Honey Bears
Why the hell did Lovie fall back into a zone for most if not all of the 2nd half (or thats what it looked like)…
because we had a significant lead and letting them drive down slow and methodically, was okay, believing we/they would eat the clock up. unfortunately we didnt score enough times early enough though.
but thats what happens when you dont believe your team is better. you send in predictable blitzes and let favre eat up your holes in zones…thankfully we got out of that one
"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what make them the biggest guys on the field." -Madden
by BearNecessities on Dec 29, 2009 9:09 AM CST up reply actions
+1...
just remember that Jimmy Kennedy is not Pat Williams. This helped Kreutz/Omiyale open up a few holes for Forte early, which led to better play action passes. Cutler audibled out a few times (IMO) of bad run plays to get the ball downfield when he realized it. Cutler opted out of more conservative run stupidity on the GW throw. Again FIRE LOVIE AND CREW NOW! If the players showed us anything, it was the future could be there for a new prospective coach.
When you find yourself in a hole, STOP DIGGING!!!
I'll have to go back and watch
to get the exact lines, but Gruden was doing some really good Madden impressions last night!
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Gotta love
the “you gotta love brett favre”….“what a great QB brett favre is for making this comeback”….Laughing/smiling after favre completed a pass….or showed how tough he was when he got off the ground (with the refs help) after every hit….
Hell even after the game it was all brett favre and mostly brett favre highlights on ESPN….If I did not see the game I would of thought favre lead them back from 30 down to win the game….but eh what can you do about it….. After all he is a football god…..
"You want cheerleaders? Bah you have the Bears drumline that should be good enough for ya! If ya don't like that you can bite me!"
- Virginia McCaskey to fans complaining to bring back the Honey Bears
by CloudyFuture on Dec 29, 2009 9:36 AM CST up reply actions
The Favre love was on full display...
But the thing that got me was the “what you need to do here, is score more points than the other team” type of comments. Laughable. I can actually see Gruden being his replacement for years to come, ugh!
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by David Taylor on Dec 29, 2009 9:40 AM CST up reply actions
you can't blame the media
for the Favre love afair. I don’t like the guy myself, but he kind of has the Tiger Woods effect where he attracts people that don’t really watch the NFL that closely. It’s easy to see why that’s all they talked about, him and Chilly’s lover’s quarrel is the hot topic of the week.
couple huge positives for the future
1, most obviously, was williams vs. allen. williams looked very, very good. yes, he got help, but almost everybody does against allen, and he handled him in 1-on-1 situations. looks like we have our LT in place…most important position on the o-line. this is huge.
2, DA. this is our #1 WR moving forward. he’s big, he’s fast, and he goes after the ball. with some better position coaching, this guy can be legit. i wouldn’t object to us going after a big name WR (if the labor contract gets resolved, so there are some good FAs available), but i think we’re actually okay in the WR department, so long as we get better coaching.
All I want as a Bears fan right now...
other than cleaning house, is to get Anquan Boldin by any means necessary…
Means?
How about Hester and a late draft pick for Boldin?
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
that might work
i think having a legit #1 WR would do more for us than a KR TD or PR TD every so often or not at all, which would be the case this season and last season. they’ve neutered Hester, but at least we have Knox and Manning to pull duties.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Dec 29, 2009 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
I agree with pretty much all that you wrote.
Even I have to give Rashied credit for that diving catch he made, it was outstanding. I do, however, have to question why he caught that one punt on the second bounce and killed it when it looked like it was still bouncing toward the goal line. He gave the Vikings at least 5 yards on that one.
I thought the Vikings looked like a team that didn’t want to be out in the cold weather from the very first kickoff and, to their credit, the Bears made them pay for that. As they got used to the elements, they obviously picked it up in the second half.
Another disturbing trend throughout the Lovie era, the Bears can never seem to come out fired up at the beginning of the game AND at the start of the second half. It’s always one or the other, last night they had a pretty bad 3rd quarter.
Jay continues to make bad decisions, but got away with 2 of them last night. All in all I counted 4 possible interceptions, 1 actually happened, 2 were dropped by the Vikings on bad decisions/throws, and 1 where Knox quit on the route (not Jay’s fault). Another reason we need a coaching change, to try to drum some sense into his head when it comes to forcing the ball in unnecessary situations. Obviously, he’s going to throw some picks but he needs to get away from the multiple “pick opportunities” in virtually every game.
Were you couting Favre's pick opportunities?
He had just as many bounce out of the hands of our defense. I think it merely is a sign of the type of quarterback — both had incredible arms and throw a lot of picks sometimes. Granted, Cutler has thrown a lot this year, but he’s been harassed of defensive linemen, too.
And I honestly think the bad 3rd quarter (and not-great 4th) was a product of injuries and good Vikings defense. They forced the Bears offense off the field quickly, so our defenders (who were really banged up) spent most of the time on the field. When we finally did start scoring again, it was quick — both drives resulted in fast touchdowns — sending out defense out there again before they could even take a seat.
Hooray for CubsStats.blogspot.com !
That drop by Bowman,
would’ve ended the game on the spot.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Dec 29, 2009 9:25 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah
Caught the Izzy PAT block and the TD to Clark then had to head to work. Followed the game through the WCG thread. Everyone said “He had it!”, I just thought it was game-goggles making it seem more make-able than it was. But after seeing the highlights I agree, he has to bring that one in. We’ve let a lot of INTs go through our fingers this year.
Speaking of dropped balls...
Remember when Tillman would drop an interception and immediately go to ground and do ten push-ups as punishment. Ahhh, the good ’ol days.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Dec 29, 2009 9:35 AM CST up reply actions
Speaking of balls...
did you hear Jaws talking about balls in the booth and once he was done all you heard was crickets.
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by Ditkavsworld on Dec 29, 2009 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
Speaking of crickets...
wait, what?!?
And nah, I didn’t hear that. Something else I’ll have to look out for on the re-watch!
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by David Taylor on Dec 29, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
I think he was talking about the footballs being cold and slick or
whatever. It was brutal.
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by Ditkavsworld on Dec 29, 2009 11:01 AM CST up reply actions
I feel for Jaws sometimes
he’s a good football mind, and he seems like a decent enough guy, but he’s just not an entertaining guy, and it shows.
Never die easy. Why run out of bounds and die easy? Make that Linebacker pay. It carries into all facets of your life. It's okay to lose, to die, but don't die without trying, without giving it your best.- Walter Payton
yup he's all X's and O's and not clowns and strippers.
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by Ditkavsworld on Dec 29, 2009 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
Lol
First time I ever heard “clowns and strippers” together in the same sentence.
I like Jaws because of his passion for the X’s and O’s; he give the audience what they want- a description on why a play(s) failed or succeeded.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
What can I say it's entertainment for the whole family;
now if it was a stripper clown that would be wrong and creepy.
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by Ditkavsworld on Dec 29, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
That drop
Just made the win even more exciting.
And it will probably give DA some more game time after those plays he made in Overtime.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.
Not sure what Favre's pick opportunities have to do with anything.
My assumption of the post is our observations of the Bears, not a comparison of Cutler vs. Favre.
If you bring it up because our secondary messed up on those, then fine, otherwise Favre’s performance has nothing to do with what I wrote.
Regarding the 3rd quarter, I felt there was a definite drop in intensity on the Bears side while the Vikings came out with something to prove. Again, a trend that has haunted the Lovie Smith teams for years, either one kickoff or the other but rarely focus and intesity for both.
I mention Favre because I think too
often we examine Cutler in a vacuum, when in fact every quarterback — especially Favre and other gunslingers — make bad mistakes and get lucky breaks.
And though I have to admit the defense seemed very different in the second half, I’m disinclined to believe it was because Lovie’s halftime speech wasn’t inspiring. As fans, we need to abandon the endeavor of trying to analyze players’ effort or a coach’s ability based on facial expressions and body language. We see only the tiniest sliver of the game, yet make the most dramatic and sweeping claims.
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by BWoodrum on Dec 29, 2009 9:47 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd agree with you if this were the first time it's happened but,
as I said, this is a theme of Lovie’s teams. It’s something that has been discussed and observed by many people on this site and in the media for a long time.
Cutler’s tendencies to throw picks and especially in the redzone throughout his career is also well documented. I think it is something that the Bears’ coaches, whomever they might be next year, need to work on with him. I’ve always said that we can expect some picks with Jay and it’s something we have to live with, but the number of them that he’s thrown this year is more than shoudl be accepted.
Lovie just doesn't know how to put teams away
He probably went in at the 1/2 and patted everyone on the back, tried to be their friends and told them how well they were playing. And they came out feeling all warm and fuzzy in the 3rd quarter – and it showed. They were totally flat (especially the defense) until they picked it up again in OT to come back and finish the game.
"Yes, risk taking is inherently failure-prone. Otherwise, it would be called sure-thing-taking." - Jim McMahon
One Kyle "friggin'" Orton?
I’ve seen no less than 8-10 dropped Ints from him this season (3 in one game- Ravens)….very fortunate indeed.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
Rashied plays - and apparaently inspires his teammates with a lot of heart
But if it comes down to him and DA hell, I think that debate was closed after last night (special teams play be damned). In fact, I think DA may have played himself into a starting roll for next year. I think Knox and Bennett may be battling it out for that third starting receiver spot. But I really think that when the line plays like that (and the play-calling is innovative), it almost doesn’t matter who you line up at WR.
And Cutler did get kinda lucky last night with dropped INTs. The one pick that he had was a horrible throw – basically into triple coverage. He’s almost like a Jeckyl and Hide QB – some of his decisions make you wonder how he’s able to keep playing in the NFL. And then on the next drive he’ll come back and make a pickture-perfect throw on a 40 yard TD play.
"Yes, risk taking is inherently failure-prone. Otherwise, it would be called sure-thing-taking." - Jim McMahon
I agree, but given the choice, I'd rather see DA, Bennett, and Knox
let Hester battle it out with Iglesias for the 4th spot and try him as a return man again. If his troubles in the return game haven’t gone away, then I don’t see a lot of upside to him compared to the rest of the group. It’s not that I don’t think he’s improved as a WR or that he hasn’t done a good job this season, but given the age and abilities of the entire group, he’d be my odd man out unless Iglesias is a total bust.
What I want to see
is Viqueens versus Packers in the playoffs. Either Minn wins and Packer fans cry about what Brett did to them. Or, Favre’s antics are all for naught as he loses to his former team. It’s a win-win.
Most importantly, however, I need neither to get to the Super Bowl. Maybe I’m just being petty.
by it'snotsomuchmeasitisroenick on Dec 29, 2009 9:23 AM CST reply actions
Ya
thats what I am personally hoping for myself….Though I would love to see a favre playoff post game press conference with him throwing chilly under the bus…..
"You want cheerleaders? Bah you have the Bears drumline that should be good enough for ya! If ya don't like that you can bite me!"
- Virginia McCaskey to fans complaining to bring back the Honey Bears
by CloudyFuture on Dec 29, 2009 9:38 AM CST up reply actions
Na
I’d rather see them both lose in the first round.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
If only there was a way they could play one another and both lose the same game. In the first round. And Farve throws Chilly under the bus in the post-game press conference.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
Oh another note
When favre was waving off the personnel changes at the goal line because he wanted keep the same packages while chilly wanted to go heavy and run it in
(NOTE also from what I understand favre also tried to get everyone lined up early so chilly could not change packages, favre also called his own plays late according to minny press)
If any other QB does that they get toasted….I mean look what happened to griese when he called his own plays in the philly game….Turner had him go out the next day and tell everyone that turner called the plays and to give turner the credit for the late in at philly in 07….
"You want cheerleaders? Bah you have the Bears drumline that should be good enough for ya! If ya don't like that you can bite me!"
- Virginia McCaskey to fans complaining to bring back the Honey Bears
I saw that
It was obvious what was going on between Favre and Chilly and it was hilarious. Minn deserves everything they are getting.
by it'snotsomuchmeasitisroenick on Dec 29, 2009 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
It's not too surprising-
Favre could write the book on the offense Minny uses, and Childress is a complete control-freak. Those types of situations aren’t uncommon in the NFL, and a lot of times they aren’t that big of a deal.
But, the issue becomes significant whenever a player goes against the coach, and he loses the ball game. That’s usually when you see the player get the pink slip after the season.
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
Kudos! Kudos! Kudos!
I got absolutely smashed last night after the game. I have to thank Jay Cutler and the Bears for winning me my Fantasy football championship! I was up 8 points, and my opponent had the Vikings D. I thought for sure I’d lose. But… whoa. The Bears pull off a stunt.
Chris Williams: Congrats son… you’ve officially earned the starting LT spot for 2010
Jay Cutler: It’s about time! You actually won us a game in crunch time. That hasn’t happened since week 2.
DA: More evidence that our coaching staff doesn’t have a clue.
Lovie: way to blow a 16 point lead and still get bailed out.
Robbie: can’t believe you missed that kick!
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Good point about getting smashed
I was at work so couldn’t but at least we can ring in the new year in the glow of a MNF win that cost Minny the number 1 seed and possibly a 1st round bye. Go Giants!
A lot better
than the New Years from a couple years ago!
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Dec 29, 2009 10:17 AM CST up reply actions
Thank God the Sex Cannon is gone now...
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.
OMG!
Got to get there, man!
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
LOL
I remember that rant. Btw, one of the comments says:
jelanimadman (2 months ago) -1 Reply
rex grossman is garage
How stupis is that?
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
Pert dang stupis!
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Dec 29, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I learned something new about Rashied Davis
Didn’t know he was such a vocal leader out there.
by Dominique Blanton on Dec 29, 2009 10:02 AM CST reply actions
Concerning Charles Tillman's contract,
I really don’t think it’s terribly unreasonable. At $2.25 million, he’s in the middle of the pack of starting CBs, which is about right, IMHO. The 2013 payoff is where it gets absurd, if not outright dangerous. That would make him the second-highest paid CB in the league (in 2009), and while I love the forced fumbles and solid play, that’s the kind of payday you give to a guy who -oh, I don’t know - touches both sides of the field at some point.
Granted, the market rate for a CB may have changed dramatically by then, for better or worse, possibly making this deal quite prescient, but more than likely, I suspect the contract will have to be restructured or bought out before that final year.
Hooray for CubsStats.blogspot.com !
His forced fumbles this year
have conveniently covered up the fact that his coverage skills have been garbage.
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
I agree
His contract is quite reasonable for a starting CB.
The 2013 roster is not going to happen. It’s a standard contract thing in the NFL to put huge years at the end of the contract; I think it allows the contract to have more guaranteed up-front money without hurting the salary cap hit too much in the earlier years. But those years are almost never paid. If Tillman is still with the team at that time, he’ll either renegotiate the contract (if the Bears still want him) or he’ll get cut.
First series of the game for the vikes I sent a text to my friend. Said, Bears a completely different beast on defense IF Tommie Harris shows up to play. Great to see the fans so jacked up and show what it means to be a Bears fan. D.A. is it fools gold or can the kid play? Kind of pissed that we don’t know the answer on that one because this staff decided to sit him until December.
Devin Aromashudu, where?????
Why does it take until week 13, when Hester gets hurt, to figure out they had the wrong Devon the whole time?? Cutler had been campaigning for this guy all along, he wanted a bigger target and better playmaker, why did no one listen to my quarterback? That’s BAD coaching, BAD personnel decisions. BAD Mgmt !!!!
Trade Hester, not a big loss at this point, he is a shell of a returner and a 4th wide out at best.
It was a good win, the Bears Superbowl this year. And if it costs the Viqueens the 2nd seed and bye, at least the Bears showed heart. I did not give them a chance in this one like most people. Just makes you think of all the could have beens this year??
Fun fact #1
Devin Aromashodu’s 7 catches for 150 yards is the best WR performance of the entire season for the Chicago Bears.
Fun fact #2
There is only one other 100 yard receiving performance for the Chicago Bears in 2009. Devin Hester’s 101 yard game at Cinci in week 7!
Fun fact #3
Our coaches are idiots.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Dec 29, 2009 11:18 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
If memory serves,
Devin Aromashodu was doing really well in preseason, then he got injured, so he didn’t get to start. Then 4 weeks into the reg season, he was healthy again, but the coaches wouldn’t give him a shot.
Isn’t that the case, or was a preseason Devin A injury a figment of my imagination?
At any rate, this clip is yet more evidence that the coaches should have had a clue as to Devin’s talent.
May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.
Yep
He’s got speed, size, and good hands….keep him in the game, coach!
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
He wasn't hurt badly. He was inactive week 1 because of...
I can’t remember. It was like a bruise or something. And Cutler kept begging to get him on the field all year.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Cutler also realized through most of the season
why DA wasn’t on the field. When you have the progression of #23, the tough catches of Bennett, and the playmaking threat of Knox, it would be hard to justify sitting one of the other WRs to make room for DA.
It’s like Cutler said repeatedly, “Sure, we’d like to see more of DA, but none of the other guys have done anything wrong to lose playing time.”
Funny how, the 4th WR we dress is a ST guy, and it took an injury to a ST player (Wolfe) to justify giving DA a spot.
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
Fun Fact #4
Angelo can not draft worth poop….
"You want cheerleaders? Bah you have the Bears drumline that should be good enough for ya! If ya don't like that you can bite me!"
- Virginia McCaskey to fans complaining to bring back the Honey Bears
by CloudyFuture on Dec 29, 2009 12:20 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
+2
"Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The ones who win get inside their player and motivate." ~Vince Lombardi
by Fire Ron Turner on Dec 29, 2009 1:19 PM CST up reply actions
Just watched the highlights again!
Damn that crappy friggin turf at Soldier Field. Manning would’ve had a TD return for sure, if he doesn’t slip. I forgot how pissed i was about that last night.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Manning fell, he didn't slip
He always loses his balance
The turf helped us out a few times as well.
It still sucks but it should get a game ball for some good tackling last night.
Price Check on aisle BOOM.
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 29, 2009 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
Peanut
I haven’t seen or heard anything on him. Anybody have any info?
by boondock_saint812 on Dec 29, 2009 10:45 AM CST reply actions
One less game of tread on the tires for Peanut
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
Injury Report:
Peanut – fractured ribs
Knox – sprained ankle
Izzy – did the CSN-Chicago post game and looked fine.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Dec 29, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
I would've thought knox would have more than a sprained ankle
the replay looke U-G-L-Y….. You ain’t got no allibi… wait what?
Price Check on aisle BOOM.
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 29, 2009 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
Izzy?
What happened to him? I didn’t see anything on TV.
The amount of pain Peanut appeared to be in I thought he would be worse.
by boondock_saint812 on Dec 29, 2009 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
During the game
they said Izzy suffered a “foot injury” and I dont think he came back in mid way through the 4th QTR….
"You want cheerleaders? Bah you have the Bears drumline that should be good enough for ya! If ya don't like that you can bite me!"
- Virginia McCaskey to fans complaining to bring back the Honey Bears
by CloudyFuture on Dec 29, 2009 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
this says sprained foot for Izzy
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2009/12/fractured-ribs-might-end-tillmans-season.html
May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.
Probably because most rib injuries are cracked rib and some cartilage pulled, both of which are painful,
but if his ribs were actually fractured, that could mean a complete break which is, not only painful, but very dangerous. It could cause signficant internal injuries.
Waht I picked up
Listen to Jay Cutler when he wants a player (The only WR over 6’ should have at least been a starting point)
Lovies Tampa 2 is more played out than even I thought (and I have been against it for quite some time)
Lovie needs to poop already, that is a cardboard cutout of him on the sidelines or someone (JA) is pulling some weekend at Bernies shennanigans
MNF announcers want to make sweet passionate love to Brett Fav-re (no new info there)
I know...
I hate that Lovie shows no emotion!
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Dec 29, 2009 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
Somebody yelled Open Bar.
I do the same thing.
Price Check on aisle BOOM.
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 29, 2009 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
well
last year, in the MNF win over Green Bay, Lovie was freaking out when AB blocked that field goal.
Never die easy. Why run out of bounds and die easy? Make that Linebacker pay. It carries into all facets of your life. It's okay to lose, to die, but don't die without trying, without giving it your best.- Walter Payton
I Never understood
the whole Lovie shows emotion thing….He showed emotion in 06 during all the Hester returns laughing, smiling, and high fiving Hester…..Pumping his fist in the air after Gould’s game winning kicks….
he shows emotion…..What I dont like is the blank expression or confusion on his face when things are not going well….
"You want cheerleaders? Bah you have the Bears drumline that should be good enough for ya! If ya don't like that you can bite me!"
- Virginia McCaskey to fans complaining to bring back the Honey Bears
by CloudyFuture on Dec 29, 2009 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
I couldn’t care less about Lovie and the emotion he shows/doesn’t show. He could have the facial expressions of an oak tree for all I care if he coaches well. Results = all that matters
Professional football players who need inspiration from their coach week in and week out are not professional.
by ClawsClawsClaws on Dec 29, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
look at devin
“Man its cold out here” lol
by Bear Lovin 21 on Dec 29, 2009 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
Think he misses MIA?
"You want cheerleaders? Bah you have the Bears drumline that should be good enough for ya! If ya don't like that you can bite me!"
- Virginia McCaskey to fans complaining to bring back the Honey Bears
by CloudyFuture on Dec 29, 2009 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
Lovie screams!
Does this mean I get to keep my job boss?
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
Good game guys!
Crawling back under my bed now….
Forte is a horrible running back
That’s what I got re-enforced from last night. 3.5 per carry. Can’t make the first guy miss, who is running full steam.
Numerous runs where an average back would get 6-8 yards, he gets 3-4.
Bell, A nobody rookie 5.3 yards per carry. Forte just blows. Doesn’t run hard, doesn’t finish the runs. You can see Olin get frustrated when he thinks they made a nice crease, and he turns around with Forte at his feet because he ran straight into the defender.
Even on that good 3rd down run, where he reversed back to the left, he left about 5 yards on the field because he didn’t turn it up once he broke outside.
Don’t think that JA or the coaches don’t know this. See Thomas Jones, Mr. fall down at minimal contact.
don't you mean?
Thomas Jones, leading rusher in the AFC? Thomas Jones, multiple time pro-bowler? Forte is fine, see my fanpost for clarification.
Never die easy. Why run out of bounds and die easy? Make that Linebacker pay. It carries into all facets of your life. It's okay to lose, to die, but don't die without trying, without giving it your best.- Walter Payton
I don't need to see your fanpost (but I will go read it)
I trust my eyes. Forte is the worst running back in the league. He will be out of football in 2-3 years. Its hilarious you feel this way with your sig.
Ok I read it
One of the dumbest things I’ve ever read
That's how I felt after reading these insightful nuggets:
- Forte is a horrible running back
- Numerous runs where an average back would get 6-8 yards, he gets 3-4.
- Forte just blows.
- Doesn’t run hard
- You can see Olin get frustrated when he thinks they made a nice crease, and he turns around with Forte at his feet because he ran straight into the defender.
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
I'm shocked you read past the header.
That’s where I had to stop.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Dec 29, 2009 3:00 PM CST up reply actions
I gave him the benefit of the doubt
But now I’ll try to remember to skip his comments. It’s not the first time.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
Not the worst
but certainly he’s shown zero lateral movement or the ability to make a single tackler miss this season. There was one play in the second half where there was a ton of room to the outside and he get tripped up for no gain. 2/3 of NFL RBs get at least three yards out of that good blocking.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
I think the fact that the team has just been so bad, especially the line
Made Forte just quit on the team. It’s really embarrassing, what he’s done this year. I’d like to think he can rebound next year, but he was drafted by Jerry Angelo. He could be more Mark Anderson than Neal Anderson.
Is Jerry Angelo fired yet?
Is Vinny Del Negro fired yet?
You're completely wrong
First off, it’s a well-known phenomenon in the NFL that backup running backs often have higher YPC than starters—and when those backups become starters, their YPC often falls to the level of the starters. I don’t know that anyone has really figured out the exact reason yet, but the fact that Bell has a higher YPC means nothing.
Secondly, if you think Forte is the problem you need to have your eyes checked. For every time this season that Olin&Co. have opened up a crese that Forte didn’t make it through there have been 5 times that Forte has had to try to dance around a defender behind the line. Running backs shouldn’t be responsible for getting to the line of scrimmage, that’s the O-Line’s job. Asking otherwise is asking your back to be Barry Sanders. And, yes, I’ll admit that Forte is not Barry Sanders. But our O-Line has been the problem this season, not Forte.
Forte has looked a little less impressive this season than last but it’s nothing compared to the ineffectiveness in our line.
Nice win, but the Bears were a missed
Extra point away from another horrible 2nd half collapse and loss.
Its clear to me that Cutler struggles throwing to stationary targets in the middle of the field yet there he was nearly getting intercepted on his first pass to a TE who was double covered. I think Cutler understands this and that’s we he lobbied for the tall, athletic Aroma all season. He’s watched Rivers do this in San Diego where all his targets are 6-4 or taller and Rivers throughs jump balls that his guys come down with 75 percent of the time. They also get a lot Interference penalties against the D. All the rules favor the offense so take advantage of the physical matchups just like Favre did with Rice at the end of regulation. I’m amazed that Ron Turner doesn’t do this considering his brother is River’s head coach. With that said…
Put Hester back as a kick returner. Aroma, Knox, Bennet and get a tall target for Cutler through the draft.
Cutler needs to throw 5+ deep passes per game.
Forte better be hurt. He looks very slow.
Defense played OK, but 30 points in the 2nd half? This is becoming a 3-4 league. Briggs/Pisa as OLB and Urlacher/Roach/Hunter in the middle? You can do so much more in terms of disguising blitzes that I would love to see the next coach implement this. Anderson might be better standing up and maybe Alex Brown.
Gaines Adams? Have no idea what to make of him, but I’d like that mid 2nd rounder back
Draft day is going to be ugly when we see what Denver and Tampa get.
by Duck99 on Dec 29, 2009 11:05 AM CST via mobile reply actions
On his first pass
Forte was wide open and near the first down marker a few feet away from where Cutler threw.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.
Hire Shanahan
Re-Assign Lovie to DC, Fire Turner, Hire Shanahan (Denver will still pay 7 million of his salary in 2010, Bears could get him for 3 million or less). Take power away from Angelo or feed him to the wolves…… I know, to much common sense for the McCaskeys…..
You want Lovie as DC?
Why because he has done such a great job or the Tampa 2 (his “stand by it” system) is soooo good?
FIRE HIM and be done with it. The defense has crumbled under his guidance and he deserves the door in his @ss on the way out.
We have to remember that Urlacher is the key for the Tampa 2 to be successful
I hate the Tampa 2 system but if Urlacher would be out there it wouldn’t look as bad as it looks
For the love of Ditka...
…I’ve read this exact same post from you three times now. If I see it again in the remaining WCG threads that I’ve yet to catch up on, I’m going to get pretty annoyed.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
Funny thing
Being down here in the Biloxi area there is all kinds of Farva love going around, being so close to N.O. means a HUGE saints population in these parts. Well the love for the hometown boy was nonexistent and my friends who are saints fans were texting me with all the Bear love one could handle.
Price Check on aisle BOOM.
That had to be odd
considering I know some saint fans loathe the Bears since 06….
"You want cheerleaders? Bah you have the Bears drumline that should be good enough for ya! If ya don't like that you can bite me!"
- Virginia McCaskey to fans complaining to bring back the Honey Bears
by CloudyFuture on Dec 29, 2009 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
It was odd.
I didn’t bring up kicking there butt in the NFC championship game or last year when my buddy and I were at the bar and I was the ONLY one cheering when we one. Saints fans don’t scare me though. ;)
Price Check on aisle BOOM.
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 29, 2009 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
"All Day, well, not tonight"
Great line by ESPN’s Stan Verrett this morning during the highlights of Peterson’s fumble and the subsequent GW TD
That was the icing on the cake for me last night, when they showed his face, priceless.
I normally don't do this
but I couldn’t resist rubbing the win in the face of my coworker who is a Viqueens fan. I also made a round to my supervisor who is a Packer’s fan.
1st half - YAY! 2nd half - WTF! OT-YAY!
While I am still basking in the glow a Bears victory that was actually fun to watch… WTF!!
They dropped 30 points on is in the second half!!
In the 2nd half the Bears Cover 2 turned into a Prevent D. No pressure and no coverage, absolutely terrible. They stopped blitzing when pressure was the only thing messing up Favre. Overtime came and all of the sudden the pressure was back on… totally inexcusable!
“they played with heart and integrity” maybe so, but this game should not be a feather in the cap of Lovie, but it likely saved his job, regardless of them scoring 30 freakin points on us in the 2nd half!! WTF!!
Sorry, that 2nd half was my husband's fault
He was at work for the 1st half, so I watched and txted him scores and highlights. Then he got home for the 2nd half, and the “WTF” stuff happened, so I chased him out of the room for the end of the 4th qtr and for OT.
Seems to have worked, but now he truly believes he can’t watch the Bears win. (all the wins this year were games he missed.)
A sad paradox, but a sacrifice he says he’s willing to make.
May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.
And BTW
I really really hope you’re wrong about this single game saving Lovie, but I’m afraid you’re not.
Bears fans feel optimistic about this because we saw potential talent (including young talent) but we desperately need a new crew in charge!!
Pleeeeeez!
May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.
For as much abuse as he has been taking lately....
I thought Ron Turner’s play-calling last night was terrific.
But as been said, play-action sure works better when the line is blocking and the running game is working.
too many WRs??
Who would have thought that we would have a glutony of young talent at WR!? As it stands now, we can’t even get J. Iglasious (sp.) active on game day while Hester (supposedly our #1) is out 3 weeks with an injury.
Now that Aromashado looks like our #1 of the future, with Knox as our speed WR, and Bennet serving as a reliable WR who can return punts, we have to rethink where Hester fits in. Perhaps we should try to trade him for a 2nd round pick in order to draft a Free Safety!?
One way or another, I propose we trade some of our WR depth in order to strengthen an area of weakness (FS stands out the most to me). Hester probably has the most trade value of our WRs and also has the fattest contract.
Can we talk Baltimore into taking him or something?
Is Jerry Angelo fired yet?
Is Vinny Del Negro fired yet?
What about Hunter's "Matrix" strip in midair on AP.
One of the best individual efforts i have seen by us all year long.
Hillenmayer = good to have
Hunter has played well all year. He makes a lot of tackles, gets his hands on a lot of passes, and he’s stripped AP at least twice this year.
He’s a great backup MLB to have! He plays smart, and always shows maximum effort.
by MakeHalasProud on Dec 29, 2009 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
Not only painful, but very serious!
At least we can assume he’s under the best care possible. Lung contusions are odd: they can resolve completely in a short time, kill you, or seem to resolve but have aftereffects that stick around indefinitely.
Let’s hope for the best for lil Peanut.
May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.
I STILL don't miss Orton.
He would have never thrown a game winner like that. Unless it was tipped by the opposing defense and caught by a WR who wasn’t even suppose to get the ball. Yeah you guys know what I’m talking about.
Responses
1.) Greg Olsen asks for a lot of PI, but he gets interfered with a whole lot. Seriously, it seems like half the time he doesn’t catch the ball it’s because someone is hanging all over him. I’d love to see him start to get these calls, because I think if defenders couldn’t slow him down like that he’d be even more dangerous.
2.)
If Devin Aromashodu is going to be the guy for 2010, who will not be back on the roster for 2010?
DA was on the active roster at the start of the season, so nobody has to be bumped out for him.
3.) I commented on this higher up, but Tillman doesn’t seem particularly overpaid. His salary (or rather, his 2009 cap hit) is 24th among cornerbacks, which seems about right. He has the 10th highest cap hit on this team, behind guys like Orlando Pace, Frank Omiyale, and Nathan Vasher. I think his salaries fine. As I said above, don’t get fooled by the 2013 number because it’s never happening; he’ll either get cut or renegotiate before then.
Source: USA Today Salary Database
On to my own thoughts…
4.) The way Chris Williams played last night, I think Orlando Pace is going to go down as one of the worst FA signings this year. Unless he’s been coaching Williams up, I think he’s hurt us as much as anyone this year. Sad to say, because I really respect the guy and what he did in St. Louis.
5.) I had a feeling before the game that the Bears were going to pull this out (but stupidly shut up about it). Why? Because it takes away the easy answers. If the Bears had bombed this we all could have easily gone ahead and called for Lovie’s head and had him fired this offseason. But after last night…I dunno. Doesn’t it feel like there’s a chance? Like, maybe, if you just give it one more try, it’ll all work out perfectly and we’ll be a great team again?
It was weird…watching this game, somehow my gut forgot how bad this team has been this season and trusted the Bears. By the middle of the first quarter I felt they were going to win the game. Now, in my head I knew that was crazy talk, but my gut was convinced. And that’s how I feel now. My head says Lovie still needs to go, but my gut says we should give them a chance.
Anyway, that’s why I thought the Bears had a chance. Losing to the Vikings would have made things too easy. And Bears fans can never have it easy, I guess.
True about Aromashodu...
I should have worded that differently. He has been on the roster all season (after beating out Rideau for the spot).
My thought was more centered around the fact that the Bears typically only dress 4 WRs each game, so we’re looking at Hester, Bennett, Knox, Davis, Iglesias, and Aromashodu for 2010. Plus, there is still a chance that we try and sign a FA WR as well.
What 4 would dress each Sunday? Surely, Iglesias’ development will be looked at, and Chicago seems to love Davis on STs. Hester showed good improvement as a WR this year, Bennett showed great hands, and Knox showed he is dangerous anytime he touches the ball.
An even bigger kink will be thrown in if we add another WR via free agency.
As for Tillman’s salary, considering his poor ability in pass coverage, I just don’t think he’s earning his money.
Nice post, btw.
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
well
if we get a new OC who’s to say he won’t suit up more receivers and use multiple receiver sets?
by frenchbears113 on Dec 30, 2009 1:20 AM CST up reply actions
Very true... but it would be hard to imagine
even a 4 WR set without using Olsen as one of them. But yes, we are talking semantics… you are totally right that next year could be different. That is a good point.
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
Thanks for the compliment
You have a point with the active roster, but I think that if that happens I’m going to file it as “not a real problem”.
As for Tillman, I see what you’re saying although I don’t think his coverage has been that bad.
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