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Thoughts From Biggs After Sunday's Victory

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We've gotten our own opinions out in the open after the win yesterday, but it's always good to be able to hear from one of the best writers covering the Bears: Brad Biggs.

Biggs always provides a fresh perspective, and doesn't get caught up in all the hoopla that the media can sometimes generate.  

Here's an excerpt from his column today:

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7. Anyone else wondering aloud about defensive end Gaines Adams being inactive? Instead, the Bears had two backup interior offensive linemen dress--Josh Beekman and rookie Lance Louis. Why dress Louis ahead of Adams when Louis wasn't going to play? Could it have been the coaching staff sending a message to the front office about the trade? Probably not, but it's at least worth mulling over. Adams has barely played. The coaches remain high on him but it's pretty evident there just isn't going to be a spot for him out there this season unless some type of injury occurs.

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I don't wonder why he was inactive...

I wonder why we had to give up a 2nd friggin round pick for a guy we won’t even play.

Good job Jerry… you just traded for your one-way ticket out of here

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Dec 7, 2009 5:21 PM CST reply actions  

When teams make these mid-year trades,

we know that sometimes it takes a year to see the results. But, when a team who has the issues with the OL like the Bears have trades their top pick in the next year’s draft for someone who can’t make an immediate impact, that’s trouble.

You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.

by Dane Noble on Dec 7, 2009 5:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Not to mention, that someone doesn’t even play on the OL – which, poor though our DL has been, is more of a need right now.

"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy

by Spongie on Dec 7, 2009 5:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Not to mention trading for a DL who looks like a WR and doesn't seem to have any strength at all.

Teams don’t give up “4th overall” picks, who don’t get drunk on boats every other week, unless they can’t play.

by BearFan611 on Dec 7, 2009 6:07 PM CST up reply actions  

He does look pretty tiny

to me. I think I see him being better at outside LB in a 3-4.

by Fridge72 on Dec 7, 2009 6:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Gaines and Anderson

would be some nice starters for OLB in a 3-4

by GtM on Dec 7, 2009 6:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I think

they might be too, wonder how Gilbert would be in the OLB, not sure he is big enough to play on the line in a 3-4.

by Fridge72 on Dec 8, 2009 2:50 AM CST up reply actions  

I can see Gilbert and Harris

Play as ends in a 3-4 they are big enough

by T.Moore on Dec 8, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

He's optimal size for that position

The only question would be is he strong enough to hold up at the POA.

We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead

by propheteer on Dec 8, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Hypothetically?

If the Bears committed to something like that now, do you think that is something that could be taken care of with a strength and conditioning coach in just one off-season?

by Fridge72 on Dec 9, 2009 4:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Possibly

but not very likely. The Packers have done it, but have one of the best 3-4 defensive minds in the business and had all their draft picks.

We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead

by propheteer on Dec 10, 2009 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Absolutely,

we should have been using that pick on the O-line, trade or draft, as that is the more immediate need. To use it on the D-line, though it be the lesser need, shouldn’t it have been on for a potential stud tackle. Seems silly to use it on a end when we have Gilbert and Melton whom still haven’t seen any time on field.

by Fridge72 on Dec 7, 2009 6:07 PM CST up reply actions  

i wonder why wale is getting snaps over him right now

unless he’s playing against utter trash tackles, wale has done absolutely nothing this year. adams might do nothing as well, but we might as well give him reps. i think the real potential growth happens next year, after he has an offseason to really pick up some weight and work with marinelli. he’s clearly got crazy talent, more than anyone on our line (or anyone you get with a 2nd round pick), but the question is whether anyone can get him to tap into that potential. i’d say both adams and gilbert should be getting wale’s reps.

by guy incognito on Dec 7, 2009 6:05 PM CST reply actions  

Would be

nice to see Gilbert getting some more of O-gun’s reps.

by Fridge72 on Dec 7, 2009 6:08 PM CST up reply actions  

It's because

they won’t help Lovie and JA win games right now. They’re trying to save their jobs face.

We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead

by propheteer on Dec 7, 2009 7:36 PM CST up reply actions  

you really think wale is helping?

honestly, he’s been invisible except when he played against the scrubbiest of o-linemen. he does nothing against anyone even moderately good. i really don’t think adams or gilbert could do worse.

by guy incognito on Dec 7, 2009 10:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Wale

He had two sacks on Sunday, so it would’ve been tough for them to match that. Maybe they’re doing him a favor cause he’ll get a bigger contract with better numbers.

We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead

by propheteer on Dec 8, 2009 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Cont'd

It makes me think that he’s still in their plans for the future. I’d like to think that if he weren’t, we’d be trying out some of the younger guys right now.

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Dec 8, 2009 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Not sure about that

Ok, then the Bears would have to let Anderson walk most likely (pending a new CBA contract). Then that would leave them with Wale, Brown, Adams, and Melton. What would they have to pay him, and for how long? It’s obvious to me that he plays well against inferior teams, and is nearly invisible against good/great competition. I think he walks for greener pastures, and the Bears roll with Anderson, Melton, and a possible FA like Kampman?

We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead

by propheteer on Dec 8, 2009 11:04 AM CST up reply actions  

As I said,

I’d like to think that…

I figured this was going to be an evaluation year for both Ogun and Anderson. To see if Rod could turn them into elite rush men. But I hope Wale does walk – the guys not that good for a defense that demands pressure from the front four. He seemingly does marginally better in his contract year, for what that’s worth.

Don’t forget about Izzy – we resigned him in the off-season and he did lose a bunch of weight to move outside. Even though, they’ve been playing him out of position since he lost the weight.

We currently have the possibility of seven DE’s that could be on our roster next season. Ogun, Brown, Anderson, G. Adams, Idonije(?), Melton(?),Gilbert(?).

I just wish we could see what we have in Gilbert and Adams right now in these garbage games.

Maybe our line will shape up like this next season.
Adams / Gilbert / Harrison / Brown
Melton / Izzy / Adams / Anderson

Izzy would need to hang out with Harrison and gain some weight back. Let Wale walk and then trade Harris to get a decent offensive lineman in the draft.

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Dec 8, 2009 11:35 AM CST up reply actions  

That's a possibility

JA may want to spend O-gun’s money elsewhere, like an O-linemen or WR. I’m not sure if Izzy belongs on the inside or outside; he’s looked good at DT this season, even if he’s playing undersized right now.

We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead

by propheteer on Dec 8, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah,

Izzy hasn’t looked bad. It just sucks that they don’t use him on the outside after asking him to lose the weight to play there.

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Dec 8, 2009 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep

Unfortunately, that’s the way the Bears brass operates. Let’s move this guy here, and then change our minds halfway through the season. They’ve been so horrible at developing players at their natural positions that it’s effecting their production.

We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead

by propheteer on Dec 8, 2009 12:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Which is...

the irony when people talking about switching our defense to a 3-4. Who better than Lovie to do so? I know he doesn’t run this scheme, but he’s “good” at shuffling guys around, amirght?

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Dec 8, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmm...

that would be like asking a bleeding-heart liberal to convert to an ultra-conservative republican.

We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead

by propheteer on Dec 8, 2009 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

ha.

and for the record, I was only joshing.

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Dec 8, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I knew you were

but I couldn’t resist. :)

We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead

by propheteer on Dec 8, 2009 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I think there's something to this

Why wouldn’t the coaching staff want Adams to go against an inferior foe like the Rams? That way, he has the best chance of succeeding, thus giving him the confidence to work harder.

We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead

by propheteer on Dec 7, 2009 7:38 PM CST reply actions  

maybe...but realize the rational logic you just spelled out

makes no sense for our coaching staff. why would they want to put a player in a position to succeed?

by guy incognito on Dec 7, 2009 10:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Make Adams a Fullback

Get something out of it after we traded away yet another draft pick

by Gesiakob on Dec 7, 2009 11:54 PM CST reply actions  

This trade is looking bad week by week

Maranelli and Rusty Jones have their work cut out for them next year with Gaines Adams.

by NiqueBears on Dec 8, 2009 3:22 AM CST reply actions  

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