Bears should Draft LaGarette Blount
by BBANGUS on Dec 8, 2009 1:43 PM CST
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I know it's early to discuss draft but with the Bears not drafting until the third round this year I've been trying to see where some bargains might fall to them, and I think I found a good one in Oregon's RB LaGarette Blount. You probably know him as the guy who decked Byron Hout of Boise State following a game there earlier this season, however, if you've been watching Ducks football as I have, you'd also know Blount is a big sized RB in the mold of Brandon Jacobs with a whole lot more speed than Jacobs. Best part is (for Bears fans not, Blount), his punch on the Blue Turf and the subsequent suspension has dropped his draft stock to the point where he was once a late first early second round choice and now some sites are questioning whether he'll get off the board before the 4th.
We all know what Forte can do after last season, but after this season maybe we are all wondering just whats going on with him. While I don't think a new feature back is what the Bears need, I do think a nice change of pace back like Blount is exactly what this team needs. With Blount sharing time with Forte the Bears would instantly have a formidable run game again. Blount isn't the best RB around, but his size and strength are great around the goaline and nice when you need a few yards on 2nd or 3rd and short. His line at Oregon has been decent, I must admit that, and thats a luxury he's not going to get in Chicago, but more than any 3rd round OL or DB, Blount is the best value at that late of a round.
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Even before his suspension
Blount had some red flags regarding his work ethic and motivation. Regardless of whether he can get his act together, I don’t see the Bears spending a 3rd or even 4th round pick on a RB like Blount.
Honestly, if the Bears even look at RBs in the 3rd or 4th round, I’d bang my friggin head against the wall. We need an OL badly…
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
Agreed.
While I like the thinking, Blount seems to have some character issues that need shoring up. I’d prefer to see an offensive line show up in town, as well. You can probably find another running back in a similar mold at some point down the road.
I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal Graves
need, need, need
I like Blount fine, but I don’t think he’d be the right move. OL, DL, Safety, WR. I’d love us to trade up for once if someone like Taylor Mays dropped into the 2nd round (wouldn’t try to get up into the 1st round for him, but he sure would be a help in the defensive backfield.)
But in the 3rd round, there will be good interior O-line help available, Jon Asamoah from the Illini, Mike Johnson from the Tide (watch him block for Ingram in the nat’l championship), Gabe Carimi from Wisconsin if he comes out, that level of player. That will be our best value, in my opinion. But who knows between now and the days post-combine, guys will be flying up and down the boards, those guys could be late 1st/2nd round talent by then.
I like picking a G or C in the 3rd
You can find quality interior linemen in the 3rd round…
Blount would be a nice pick up
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 8, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
No no no.
We need to address the O-line first and foremost before adding any playmakers. If you have a good O-line and a good QB, you’re gonna have a good offense even with mediocre talent at the playmaker positions. We got the QB.
I agree with addressing the O-Line, but...
Does anyone else think we need upgrades on the defense? Specifically, on the secondary like a cover corner to help Tillman?
"That play was ‘Give the ball to Michael and everyone else get the @##@#% out of the way."
--Chicago Bulls head coach Doug Collins, on "The Shot"
Anybody that thinks we dont need a RB is crazy and its not like we cant address the OLine in FA before the draft.
I was actually thinking the same thing about Blount, I could care less about “character issues” , that stuff is soo overrated. Larry Johnson had character issues and in his first start with the Bengals he breaks off 100 yards. And dont forget who had “character issues” in the draft this past year Percy Harvin, look how that worked out. I would be for getting LaGarrett Blount to help Forte out he seems like a bruising back, just ask that guy from Boise State!!!
Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover
sure, we need an RB.
we just need other things more. draft is just as good a place as FA
by PrincetonCubs on Dec 8, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
thank you!
I realized as soon as I posted this someone was going to bring up “character issues” which are almost always heresay or rumor at best. “Character Issues” are always such a grey area and I feel that anyone who doesn’t draft someone they know is talented and that they can use based on “character issues” is having their own issues. You mentioned Harvin, who was a good example, or how about another Viking WR draft choice; Randy Moss? Moss got passed up to what, 17th, because he had “character issues” (which all boiled down to him smoking pot).
Now Lawrence Phillips, Maurice Claret, and apparently Shawn Merriman, those are some character issues.
most ppl aren't citing character issues as the reason
it’s about need. I have every reason to believe that Blount should be defined by one bad act, and I would be fine with him as a Bear…provided we had already addressed the other numerous areas of greater need first.
by PrincetonCubs on Dec 8, 2009 6:33 PM CST up reply actions
should *NOT* be defined by one bad act
whoops, important word to leave out :)
by PrincetonCubs on Dec 8, 2009 6:33 PM CST up reply actions
Sure if the Bears can fill the OL holes via FA
then drafting a RB is a possibility, but only if there is not a:
1. DL or
2. WR or
3. DB available, all areas of bigger need than RB, especially if you are thinking of drafting a guy as troubled as Blount.
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~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Dec 8, 2009 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
You're off by about 95 yards
He had 107 in his second game and it came against Cleveland. Against such monster run-stuffers as the Raiders (five yards) and the Lions (four yards) he hasn’t been as effecient. Plus if my memory serves Cedric Benson was out for the game against the Browns.
And how can you say that the Bears aren’t concerned with character issues? Whether or not you think it’s overrated, the Bears obviously do not (Cedric Benson, Tank Johnson, even Ron Riviera).
Censorship of anything, at any time, in any place, on whatever pretense, has always been and will always be the last resort of the boob and the bigot.
—Eugene O’Neill
Exactly, Benson had character issues coming out of the draft and they still drafted him.
So why not Blount its about getting the most talented player you can that late in the draft.
Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover
RB is not even close to a priority for the Bears
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
Not true at all.
Are you another one of the guys who think Khalil Bell is the answer at #2 because he had one good run? We need another back. Forte doesn’t even play like a #1 back, he’s more like a 3rd down back. I agree that we have more pressing needs but RB not being even close to a priority is just false. QB is not even close to a priority, LB is not even close to a priority, TE is not even close to a priority but RB definitely is a priority. We’re trying to improve the offense.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Dec 8, 2009 6:44 PM CST up reply actions
I completely agree
This offense needs as many weapons as it can get.
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exactly
Maybe don’t take Blount at the 3rd as he’s likely to drop farther, but why not take a shot on him. So you lose what, a late round pick? Remember Gaines Adams cost us a 2nd rounder, so I’m ok with wasting another pick on someone like Blount who has proven he can run in what has been a highly competetive Pac 10 conference (he scored on that nasty USC defense from last year).
Wait, I'm confused.
The last sentence of your post makes me think that you wanted to take him in the 3rd, but now you are saying not the 3rd?
Where do you think he’ll fall, and when do you think the Bears should pull the trigger on him?
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
Don't know about Blount, but a runningback is a must
I agree with you on the need for quality O-linemen. But seeing that we have no day 1 picks the 2010 draft, the question is whether we draft for quality or quantity(damn, that’s a lot of Q’s). at this point, we have no depth at RB, and what we have on the field right now(Forte, Bell) are big question marks.
how the Bears handle their next draft should depend on three things:
1)What the Bears coaching staff will look like
2)What the Bears do in free agency
3)Which side of the ball needs more attention
With all that said, I would like Bears to use the draft to add more depth in positions where injuries were problematic, rather than positions that lacked talent. while OL is definitely a need, one can just as easily argue that RB, LB, DL, or DB’s are a bigger issue.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Dec 9, 2009 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
Upgrade the OL
and Forte backed up by Bell is good enough. At best RB is the third priority on offense behind OL and WR.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Dec 9, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
I unagree.
That is all.
You're being very Un-Dude right now.
by IslandBoodler87 on Dec 9, 2009 5:03 PM CST up reply actions
Damn reply issues.
I agree with you red. I don’t see a need to upgrade the running back position.
You're being very Un-Dude right now.
by IslandBoodler87 on Dec 9, 2009 5:05 PM CST up reply actions
How does one unagree?
That’s a new one.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Dec 9, 2009 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
It's a matter of simple physics really.
It is…really.
You're being very Un-Dude right now.
by IslandBoodler87 on Dec 13, 2009 10:29 AM CST up reply actions
I don't know about that
Our running game absolutely sucks! What are we, last in the league in rushing? Yes, the line sucks, too – and they’re a big part of the problem. But we need to create some competition for Forte, as well.
"Yes, risk taking is inherently failure-prone. Otherwise, it would be called sure-thing-taking." - Jim McMahon
Fix the OL
and the running game gets a lot better. Forte is a quality back and finding a backup for him is a lower priority than OL and WR.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Dec 9, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
you get a starting guard in rounds 2-4
no way we should draft a RB. draft a guard in round 3, maybe another (or a FS) in round 4. if williams pans out at LT and either omiyale or shaffer can play a decent RT, we only need a starting G (garza is pretty decent, and assume that beekman will be an improvement over a completely gassed kreutz) to have a decent o-line.
G or T in the 3rd
If he’s there in the 4th, I’d easily pull the trigger on him. Although, I’d rather JA sign Chester Taylor as the Bears change of pace back. Not too long ago he had a 1,200 yard rushing season, and he’s very able in the passing game.
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why so he could falcon punch our opponents?
Bring back our honey bears...sick and tired of hearing about the dallas cowboy cheerleaders and the bars they go work at when they quit. cold weather + cheerleaders in skimpy outfits = lots of fun
Hey
Him and Tommie – no one will want to be playing us. Maybe pick up Pacman. Most feared team in football.
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by Bear Lovin 21 on Dec 11, 2009 9:56 PM CST up reply actions
i think the real question is
who has a harder punch? tommie harris? blount? only one way to find out! BATTLE ROYAL!!!!
You're forgetting Kreutz
He’ll knock LaGarett into next week.
We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead
I'd actually buy a ticket for that
More entertaining than the Bears playing football right now unfortunately.
If that Mule Angelo
picks a running back with the Bears first pick it will be the sign that cements what we have all been saying. The management has ZERO clue about what is going on in their organization. The Bears priorities surface around OL, Pass rushers, and DB’s. Not RB. You think adding a change of pace back to this Bears team is going to do anything different then what we have seen all season? how is a COP Back going to improve this Offensive Line? What holes is he going to run through?
Lets get serious here. I do not want to hear about drafting an offensive player unless it is a Lineman who will protect Cutler and Forte. If L. Blount is around in the 6th or 7th round then go after him, but anything before that should be considered only to protect the Line and improve our DB’s.
Until this Organization realizes that it is not 2006 anymore, nothing is going to improve. Angelo, Lovie, Virginia, Ronny, and Pep will continue to sit around playing thumb wars, roto football, having tea parties, or reading ghoulish stories to each other at dusk. While Bear Fandom is plotting where all their heads are positioned around the points of Chicago.
I believe
O-line will be his top priority this up coming offseason. With that said, the running game has to improve, and RB depth is a concern as well.
We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead
The point to this guys post was that if he fell to the 3rd or 4th you would be getting the most VALUE at that point in the draft.
Will there be a DB or an OL or some WR there sure, but will any of them give you the most value like Blount will a guy who was projected to go high before he went loco on Boise St. The answer is no. The draft isnt always about drafting your BIGGEST need its also about getting the BEST value you can for that pick.
Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover
Great so we draft LaGarrett Blount...
So we can watch him average 2.9 yards per carry and be a COP back to Fortes 3.1 YPC. Where is the value in that? what good is he with an offensive line like the Bears have? Are you seriously going to be crossing your fingers and toes that on draft day if L.Blount is not picked by the time the Bears pick in the 3rd, that the Bears choose him? when the real need is 100% Offensive Line?
Now I understand that in the 3rd round there might not be any OL worthy of that pick, but there is no way that Angelo and his barely functioning brain should even consider wasting that pick. Especially if there are worthy 3rd Ends and DB’s on board.
his avg last season was 7.6 YPC.
So maybe we should have gone after Graham Harrell (Texas Tech QB) in last year’s draft instead of trading for Cutler? Harrell averaged like 393 passing yards a game.
College stats are college they don’t translate to the NFL.
so I’m ok with wasting another pick on someone like Blount who has proven he can run in what has been a highly competetive Pac 10 conference (he scored on that nasty USC defense from last year).
No he didn’t. He had 9 carries for 0 yards and 0 TD’s against USC last year.
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How in any way does your Graham Harrell comparison prove your point??
So I guess Jonathan Stewart, another Oregon Duck, similar in the mold to Blount, didnt translate to the NFL.
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
Graham Harrell just throwing out some college stats
Talking about college stats. Because he averaged 7.6 yards a carry doesn’t mean jack. It’s college. Correll Buckhalter averaged that in college as well in my mind it doesn’t mean anything. College stats are often inflated, like all Texas Tech QB’s (Graham Harrell) but it doesn’t mean anything.
BigDanz wrote
So we can watch him average 2.9 yards per carry and be a COP back to Fortes 3.1 YPC. Where is the value in that?
BBangus replied
his avg last season was 7.6 YPC.
So are we to believe that Blount will average that in the NFL? Especially with our horrible line?
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by tj.hendricks on Dec 12, 2009 12:37 AM CST up reply actions
EXACTLY you are disproving your own point, if they arent worthy of the pick you dont take them. Its a question of Value or Need, and with drafting Blount in the 3rd or 4th you would be getting HIGH value but also adressing a BIG need.
What good would a ? of an OL pick that we find late be to us. Is he going to be somebody that can come in and help us right away? I dont want to wait for another inexperienced guy to get his sh*t straight, who knows how long that could take. There is no question what we need is an EXPERIENCED OL from FA , please no more youngbloods. We are LAST in the league in running the football, its a 2 way street. Go get an experienced guy to help this team at LG or at RT. Do you seriously think that whatever Lineman we draft, if we did draft one in the 3rd, would start over Beekman or Schaffer. These arent some first round diamonds we are talking about, most 3rd or 4th rounders are works in progress.
So are you seriously going to be crossing your fingers and hoping that our running game will be back to normal if we do indeed draft an OL in the 3rd round. I dont care what we do to patchwork the OLine, I still have questions with Forte. We need another back, like it or not, for alot of reasons depth, injury, change of pace. Look at Dallas and when NY had their 3 headed monster. Thats how you get back to running the football. There is no such thing as too many backs.
As BBANGUS pointed out as I was writing this, he was a Beast last year splitting reps and projected to go very high in the draft, and I seem to be thinking that there was a back at Oregon that was very similar to his style of running, I think that his name was Jonathan Stewart, he seemed to translate well to the NFL.
The only thing I would say is that I dont even think he will make to the 3rd round, especially if he has a big bowl game, but if he is I will DEFINITELY be crossing my fingers that we take him.
Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover
You're Right
Let’s not draft OL because the “experienced” OL that JA brought in through FA has been just awesome this year. Drafting OL is about “VALUE.” Think about what a “VALUE” drafting Olin Kreutz was. Drafting OL is “VALUE” because it will likely give you a player that can be a productive part of your team for a long time. Drafting an RB has “VALUE” because of their relatively short shelf life vs. other positions.
That being said, OL takes priority regardless of Blount’s “VALUE.” If we don’t draft OL then we will be stuck with stopgaps like we have every other year, and that isn’t going to help the production of any RB or our QB. I’m not saying no, but IMO 3rd round should be OL and if he’s there in the 4th maybe take him.
Yea lets draft OLineman cause Angelo has done soo well at evaluating that.
Blount is not just HIGH VALUE he would be addition to a BIG NEED.
Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover
Was Rueben Brown not a good pickup
I wouldnt consider him a stopgap and he was experienced to say the least.
Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover
I think
you might be the only person who actually read my post correctly. I was making a case for the value of Blount at the 3rd round. If he’d have played this year instead of punchign that dude and had nearly the same year he had last year (7.6 avg, over 1000 yds and 17 touches SPLITTING TIME AT RB), he’d be a projected first round pick (and he was). Like you said perfectly, sure there are other positions the Bears need but is there some troubled OL or WR whose value has fallen that far? Nope. Blount is low risk high reward and a former projected first rounder whose draft status didn’t fall because of injury ro skill deprecation, but because of “character issues” and like you pointed out, those aren’t clearly defined. The guy avergaes 7
Ahhh, so the old
best player versus need argument. Would we draft a QB in the 3rd round if the value was outstanding?
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
Yea good point <------------------ sarcasm Are you serious?!?!?!
So you must think that RB is not a need, well you would be in the minority. This guy would be a HIGH value pick and he would also address a BIG need for this team.
Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover
I don't think that RB is that big of a need.
It would be nice to have a bruiser to compliment Forte, but spending our 3rd round pick on a RB? Maybe I’m missing something here…
Either way, we’ve got the free agency period starting March 5th, and two months before the draft. We know that the Bears are in a situation where we really need to make a splash in FA, so if we can get the OL shored up before the draft, then maybe we start looking at value at other positions.
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
If you dont think that RB is a need than I dont know what else to say.
Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover
I don't know why you would believe
that I don’t think it’s a need. I said I didn’t think it was a big enough need to justify using our 3rd round pick on a RB.
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
Whats the difference between a 3rd Round OL and 4th Round OL
compared to LaGarrette Blount a would be 1st Rounder who falls to the 3rd Round.
Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover
This is veering way too far into hypotheticals...
This is my final answer (from above) on this topic:
We know that the Bears are in a situation where we really need to make a splash in FA, so if we can get the OL shored up before the draft, then maybe we start looking at value at other positions.
Until we do something in FA, doing any kind of draft speculation is a waste of time, at least in my opinion.
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
So sorry for wasting your time Boss.
But you took the time to say we need to draft an OL with the 3rd Round Pick and there will be people that dont agree with you, like me. You didnt have to chime in if you felt it was a waste of your time.
Yea no doubt we are getting ahead of ourselves but what else is there to talk about,. This guy brings up a good point if Blount is there, they should take him, and thats my final answer.
Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover
I think getting our first string OL shored up
is more important than getting a back-up RB.
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
So much for final answers.
And you think a 3rd Round O Lineman would be a First String guy??
Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover
That was the angle that made me say it was
too much speculation. Of course there could be 3rd rounders that could start… nothing is for certain. But, I’m also hoping that we hit FA heavily as well… which I keep saying.
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
Which is duly noted for the 3rd time.
Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover
I second that.
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
Who's to say that he would be any good in the NFL?
When was the last good RB the Bears had ever had? What if he’s just another Cedric Benson type who doesn’t do well in Chicago, gets picked up by another team, and has great numbers?
"That play was ‘Give the ball to Michael and everyone else get the @##@#% out of the way."
--Chicago Bulls head coach Doug Collins, on "The Shot"
by D-WadeChicago on Dec 9, 2009 3:24 PM CST up reply actions
So I guess we should never draft a RB again.
I forgot we have done soo well in drafting OLineman in the last decade especially under Jerry Angelo.
Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover
+1
and for goodness sake, his name is LEGARRETTE, not LaGarrette.
I also question the assumption that he would have been a first round pick even had he not punched an opposing player in the face. Before the season, nfldraftscout didn’t even have him in the top couple senior running backs.
As many other people have said, there’s a lot of time between now and the draft for the Bears to fill holes and for players’ draft stock to change, there’s no point in getting fixated on any one player.
by PrincetonCubs on Dec 9, 2009 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
Because he agreed with you
does not mean he is the only one who understood your post. Trust me, your post was not rocket science, it was pretty easy to understand, it’s just that some of us just don’t agree.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Dec 9, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
Fair enough
but Blount comes with serious baggage, something some here casually dismiss but shouldn’t. If there is a quality player at a position of greater need than RB, you shouldn’t ignore that either.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Dec 9, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
No doubt, but I dont see ANY O Line or Safeties that has their stock falling like Blounts is, who is a solid player.
Its not like he was a bad teammate.
Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover
Quality at positions can be found
in the 3rd round without it being players whose stock is falling.
This year’s WCG draft coverage should be interesting… :)
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
Seems like were already in it.
But sometimes you can get a quality pick with someone who shouldve been taken higher, but had “character issues”. Case in point, Percy Harvin
Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover
Oh boy.
Harvin should have been picked higher than #22 overall?
Plus, you can’t compare Blount to Harvin in my opinion.
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
Im speaking of character issues in comparison.
And my point was sometimes you can get a guy late that isnt supposed to be there but fell because of the character issues.
You know what I meant by that. And yea Harvin shouldve been drafted higher and DHB shouldve been drafted lower. I really dont even think Blount will be there when we finally get our first pick in but if he is, the Bears cant pass up that opportunity.
Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover
LOL
Aren’t you glad Al Davis ain’t running our draft?!
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
What draft?!
I couldn’t help myself since the Bears are without the two most important picks.
We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead
+1
If there is a quality player at a position of greater need than RB, you shouldn’t ignore that
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
Chester Taylor
He’d be a perfect fit IMO to compliment Forte. He has the speed, hands, and blocking ability to do it “all.”
We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead
I do think hes solid but dont you think he is too much like Forte.
Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover
He's faster and quicker
Plus, he’s shown the ability to run between the tackles as well. He has a 1,200 yard rushing season on his resume.
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Didn't Forte
rush for about 1200 too? i think they are built in the same mold. we need a marshawn lynch marion barber type back.
"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what make them the biggest guys on the field." -Madden
by BearNecessities on Dec 10, 2009 5:12 AM CST up reply actions
Not really
1200 yards doesn’t have much to do with it, just an example that he was productive in a leading role. I wouldn’t consider Forte “quick” or have good break away speed. Taylor definitely has more agility east and west than Forte, and the ability to make people miss in tight spaces. Forte is like 6’1" 220, while Taylor is smaller at 5’11" 210. The backs you mentioned won’t help the Bears opponents play honest while defending the run; IMO, they’re very much like Forte.
We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead
My thing is that
Minn OL is pretty sweet. I know AP is really good. and Taylor is talented as well, but G Wolfe would run for over 1,000 behind that line.
ah well, maybe i just hate Minn/GB so much I can’t see Taylor in a Bears uni.
"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what make them the biggest guys on the field." -Madden
by BearNecessities on Dec 10, 2009 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
All is fair in love and war
Taylor would undoubtedly want to stick it to his former team, and most likely would cherish the opportunity to do so.
Wolfe is who he is- a small RB who hasn’t found his niche with a pathetic offense. One of the worst picks on JA’s resume.
We're not scaremongering (nightmare of a season continues), this is really happening (Bears are more than done) - Radiohead
you guys!
just look at his sick highlight tape!
who cares about stats just look at youtube highlights to get a good idea of a player
if you’re this good you don’t need an Oline!!!!1111
If you want to crown em...
Yes, yes you do need an OL...
especially in the NFL (as we have seen this year in Chicago).
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
yep
and Blount did have an O-line in oregon
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Dec 11, 2009 2:27 PM CST up reply actions
I've been here for years
I’ve written several good articles.
I think that you should understand that this is purely sarcasm, note the !1111 and that I said you only need to look at youtube highlights
just to make it clear I truely believe that an OLis the #1 need
I started to become invisible to people when I turned 21, originally it was just bartenders, but over time it also included women and friends, and now worst of all strangers on the internet
If you want to crown em...
by JohnnyTruant on Dec 12, 2009 7:37 PM CST up reply actions
LMAO.
Big swing and a miss on my part. dude.
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
This is exactly why I want this guy, but just forget it when Dane says no, IT MEANS NO
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
Hey you,
I said “Yes, yes…”
Blount is good… I’m not saying he wouldn’t be a good addition. And if, IF, we shore up the OL in free agency before the draft, then MAYBE we look at RB or WR or Safeties or CBs.
But tell me, if we hit May with our OL being Pace, Omiyale/Beekman, Kreutz, Beekman, Williams, would you really want to add a RB with our 1st pick in the draft?
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
Dude Pace is going to retire and I guarantee we get someone in FA, just like we picked up guys last year.
Because as we all know the only 1st String in 1st year O Lineman TYPICALLY come in the first couple rounds. And if you havent noticed by now I most definitely want Blount on this team, he would be the perfect compliment. Any good team has a great 2 Back set, which we dont have, we barely have one good back. Are you gonna tell me that you will have no questions concerning Forte even if we shore up the O Line. To me O Lineman are like cattle, dime a dozen, but a solid RB is something much more difficult to find.
And another thing why is it that we cant play solid with the Line we got??? Its not like Old man Tait and John St Claire were all stars. Look at GB, their O Line sucks and have gone through their fair share of injuries and they seem to be doing just fine sitting at 8-4 even after all the problems they had through the first 9 games when they gave up over 40 sacks, since then they have only given up 3 sacks, thats coaching. Something we are lacking. Bringing in another project 3rd Round OLineman is not going to solve the problem.
What do you think is more likely, we go out and get an experienced OLineman in FA or find some stud OLineman in the 3rd round of the draft. My bet is Safety and OLine will be addressed in FA and the rest of our needs will be addressed in the draft.
Once Pace bows out gracefully that will move Williams at LT, where he should be, Ive always felt Beekman should be in over Omiyale at LG but what do I know , maybe Omiyale gets a little better in his second year of learning the position (you gotta give these guys a chance, theyre not going to be great overnight). Olin is tricky because he isnt getting any younger but I dont foresee him leaving next year and he really hasnt played that well. Garza is the only one that has done fine, And at RT you get someone that is going to hit the market in FA, similar to when we picked up Tait. And if not I really dont have a problem with Schaffer. This team just needs to learn how to execute
When we got Tait and Rueben Brown, everything changed and the line became a formidable force, getting more inexperienced young guys piled on top of Williams, Omiyale and our future Center Beekman is not going to help their learning process.
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
At this point Forte is a 3rd down/change of pace Back at best.
His Numbers in his rookie year I felt were a tad misleading. Yea he had over 1200 yards, albeit some tough ass yards, but his main strength was catching the football and pass protection, which is a 3rd down backs forte (no pun intended, well kind of). I can only think of 3 games the Colts, Lions, and Rams, where he actually RAN for over 100 yards. Not exactly a top tier back if you asked me. He is not the type of back that is going to wear down an opponent with his bruising runs, which is what we need. How do expect defenses to get worn down with over 12 games under 100 yards, its just not going to happen.
And with the year hes having now, he isnt making me feel all warm and cozy about our RB situation. Depth is a big key, if they bring back Jones or Wolfe next year Im going to stab my eyes out, which would be less painful than going through that trainwreck again. I like Bell but hes a 3rd string back. I want Blount.
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
so you say, but your "eveidence" is dicey to say the least
if you put a decent line in front of him, Forte will get you yards.
Oh and BTW, it is not the RB who wears the defense down, it is the OL.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Dec 12, 2009 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
Its also the RB, come on, seriously
And the “EVIDENCE” shows that the only 100 yard games in his CAREER (including this year) came against the 0-16 Lions and the 1-15 Rams last year and the lowly 2 win Lion team of this year as well. The only team of quality that he actually got over 100 yards was in his first career game was against the Colts, well that was about 30 games ago.
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
1200 yards last season
proves he is a quality back, despite running behind an average line. This year his numbers are way down. What has changed? The OL.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Dec 14, 2009 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
The OL last year wasn't stellar in any shape or form
for you to claim that it was just the OL this season that ruined Forte. Besides your claim that 1200 yards last season proves he is a quality back is incorrect. Have you just become a Bears fan? The Bears have had many successful rookie RBs that have deflated as soon as their rookie seasons ended. Don’t you remember Salaam, Enis and A-Train? All successful rookie seasons, all shells of their former selves the next. A-Train also won rookie of the year honors in 2001. Not that Forte is a bust but it proves that having a big rookie season doesn’t prove anything in relation to whether or not he’s a quality back. All the problems with the OL do not relate solely to his performance, period.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Dec 14, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
Two things
1. I agree that last eyar’s OL was not stellar (never said or implied it was), but it was a better run blocking unit than this year’s OL.
2. Forte also had nearly 500 receiving yards. To declare him a bust is premature. Yes, maybe Forte will be a reincarnation of the one-hit wonder backs you mentioned in your response. Or maybe he just needs a decent OL like most RBs. A bad second season does not prove he is not a quality back. The jury is out.
Oh and for the record, I am not a new Bears fan. I was around when the Bears beat YA TIttle and the NYGs for the 1963 NFL title, so yes, I do remember players having a great rookie season and little else after that. I just don’t see Forte being one of those guys. He is not a power back who can create his own holes, and with this abomination of an OL this season, he pretty much has to do this most of the time. But put him behind a decent (not great even) OL, he will produce, like he did in 2008.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Dec 14, 2009 5:03 PM CST up reply actions
Dont you think hed be a stellar with a little help at the position.
Or do you consider Garrett Wolfe help?
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
Just look at how many 100 yard rushing games he has had against QUALITY opponents
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
Why would Pace retire?
He’s due to make millions in 2010 and 2011. I mean, I hope he retires, but I’d lay odds that unless he has some sort of significant injury, he won’t.
And you say “just like we picked up last year”? I hope it is better than Pace, Omiyale, and Shaffer. John Tait’s retirement may have hurt us more than originally thought.
But, if our OL is basically the same in 2010 as it was in 2009… we’re in trouble, no matter what our RB depth is.
Shaffer is terrible, and I don’t see him ever being more than a back up. I am not against finding a power runner to compliment Forte, but unless our OL changes significantly, it won’t matter who our RBs are.
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
Just because you werent successful on the pickups before doesnt mean you dont try again.
And if youre going with that logic than drafting an OLineman wont help either, I dont have to give you examples of the colossal failures we have had in drafting OLineman because Im sure you are well aware of them.
And lets be patient with Omiyale and Beekman, this city always looking for instant gratification, which is not nice to have but not always realistic. Look at Columbo, Ive never heard the word bust more times uttered than when his name was mentioned and he turned out to be solid. I think coaching is more the problem than the guys on the field but thats just me.
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
Hey, you don't have to convince me...
I’ve actually got more faith in Jerry Angelo than most. Sure, he was 0/3 in free agent OLinemen this year, but I do think he’s a good scout regardless.
Omiyale’s upside is he’s getting more reps and progressing with each game. Beekman’s upside is that he’s very young, and has all the time in the world to learn technique (even if he is a midget).
At some point, we are due to get the formula right… and I actually do have faith that Angelo is good at what he does.
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
That to me is the biggest question mark of them all...
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
Pace will not be Bear next year.
Regardless of if he wants to or not. What’s with making the assumption that Shaffer is terrible? The guy is not terrible, you just don’t know anything about him. Read THIS and then tell me again why you think he’s a terrible option at RT. He’s done nothing but played well when he’s been asked to.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Dec 11, 2009 5:12 PM CST up reply actions
Now wait a minute...
I ain’t gonna rely on the media to tell me what to think. Shaffer got blown the hell up during preseason, and hasn’t shown anything on film to prove that he is worthy of a starting position thus far in 2009.
He talks a great game… when we got him, his quotes to the media sounded great. He sounded like he was a true mauler, ready to go into battle and fight folks. Unfortunately, when actually put to the test, he’s looked like garbage.
I’d say there is a reason why Cleveland preferred him over JSC.
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
I'm not relying on the media, those are HIS STATS put into words.
Let’s focus on how a guy plays in preseason and translate it into how his production will be in the regs, shall we? Your telling me he looked like garbage against Little last weekend? That’s bullsh*t. I didn’t say he deserved a starting position but I’m not going to say he doesn’t either. The guy hasn’t played enough for you to judge him and your “hasn’t shown anything on film” comment is ridiculous because obviously he hasn’t when he has only started one game. And yes, let’s rely on Cleveland to make the smartest personnel decisions, right? Your not being very credible with your argument.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Dec 11, 2009 5:28 PM CST up reply actions
Good enough...
I didn’t say he deserved a starting position but I’m not going to say he doesn’t either.
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
You gotta give the guy the benefit of the doubt.
If he turns out to be a good option, you’ll be happy won’t you?
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Dec 11, 2009 5:54 PM CST up reply actions
Considering what he's shown so far,
he’s got a long climb to prove he’s worth his salt.
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
If he starts for the rest of this season
then we can actually have a valid conversation on this topic.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Dec 11, 2009 6:57 PM CST up reply actions
Shaffer was also cut by the Browns
because he refused a pay cut, not because John St. Clair is a better option.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Dec 11, 2009 5:45 PM CST up reply actions
I don't consider it a question mark
because I don’t think that the Bears want to hinder Chris’ development into our starting LT anymore. I will be disappointed if Pace plays another down this season because he isn’t the future and this team isn’t playing for anything but pride.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Dec 11, 2009 5:18 PM CST up reply actions
this didn't reply correctly and there was more added to it
but i give up. My computer is acting stupid.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Dec 11, 2009 5:19 PM CST up reply actions
I'm imagining you're being sarcastic
but you bring up a good point: there are a lot of sick youtube clips of running backs who tore sh*t up in college, and then tried the same moves in NFL, where the linebackers are the size of college D-linemen and run like college safeties. some succeed; most do not. I’d rather take the safer chance of a solid O-lineman encountering success, while filling an area of greater need.
by PrincetonCubs on Dec 11, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Remember this argument, cause come next year once Blount gets his chance, you will be eating your words.
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
You think we can find a SOLID OLineman in the 3rd ROUND, now thats funny.
Thinking that is the “SAFER” chance than if Blount fell to the 3rd round and taking him is laughable.
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
um, no.
you have a false assumption that Blount is falling. He’s not; he wasn’t even in the top few senior backs BEFORE this season and its events. Add in the underclassmen, and he was 2nd-3rd round material anyway to begin with. It’s not like this is a guy who was the top pick in the draft who’s falling into our lap. He’s got issues beyond the personal ones, like, for example, not having the speed most teams look for at tailback. He is not “much faster” than Brandon Jacobs, as OP suggested. nfldraftscout has his 40 time at 4.58.
And as for not finding solid interior linemen in the later rounds, just a few off the top of my head…
Chris Snee 2nd
Shaun OHara Undrafted
Andre Gurode 2nd
Kris Dielman Undrafted
Brian Waters Undrafted
Casey Wiegmann Undrafted
Kevin Mawae 2nd
Jahri Evans 4th
oh yeah, and this guy Olin Kreutz, who arrived in the 3rd round…
by PrincetonCubs on Dec 11, 2009 5:07 PM CST up reply actions
Olin wasnt drafted by Angelo
And you named 3 second round picks which we dont have, and if youre going to bank your hopes on undrafted players than good luck. I wonder how many of them actually started in their rookie season anyways.
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
Names off the top of your head huh..
hahahaha, yeah right! Also, thanks for listing the 2nd round picks that have been successful because we don’t have a 2nd round pick. SInce when has the 2nd round become a later round? There are only 32 NFL teams remember?
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Dec 14, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions
no, it was actually pretty easy
think of good interior lineman, google when he was drafted, write down where he was drafted. true, we don’t have a 2nd round pick, but it’s reasonable to foresee us trading up into the 2nd round if there was someone we really liked, more so than into the 1st round given our depleted trade ammunition. more a point in response to the folks above who seem to think that only a 1st round OL can make an immediate impact
by PrincetonCubs on Dec 14, 2009 7:48 PM CST up reply actions
and I forgot to mention
I take it you think it’s a “safe chance” to use your top pick on a guy who has hardly played this year because he punched another player in the face in front of a bazillion cameras. Yes, that’s the definition of safety.
As I said before, of course, I don’t think one bad act should define a player for life. But picking him is hardly safe.
by PrincetonCubs on Dec 11, 2009 5:13 PM CST up reply actions
If you dont like his character fine, me personally, I could care less.
That stuff seems to be overrated at times, bottom line is this guy IS a player and WILL play solid for whoever is smart enough to take him. And you mentioned that he wasnt a potential late first rounder, check again. A first round selection is exactly what the draft experts were saying he lost when he went all Tyson on Boise St.
God I pray that we actually do draft this guy and when he tears it up, and watch you guys hop the fence faster than the speed of light.
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
no, you check again
I already mentioned where nfldraftscout had him. I just checked walterfootball. Here is their write-up from early in the season.
http://walterfootball.com/draft2010RB.php
9/12/09: I guess you can say that LeGarrette Blount knocked himself out of draft consideration. Following a dismal performance where Blount actually lost five yards on eight carries, the Oregon running back punched a Boise State player and then had to be restrained from attacking the fans. The overweight Blount was already a Round 4-5 prospect to begin with, so he’s now a long shot to be drafted.
Those are two of the most reputable draft/scouting sites out there. Your experts are…
by PrincetonCubs on Dec 12, 2009 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
Yea we get it you can find scouts that prove your point , as can I.
>http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1620455
2nd paragraph halfway down
I could sit here and post a few more, but I dont care to. I know what I heard and everyone on the mothership was saying he couldve been a “POTENTIAL” (not a lock) late first rounder if not for that. I mean he had only led the Pac 10 in TDs while splitting reps with Johnson.
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
mothership?
and yes, just because he might have been drafted in the 1st round, that means he is automatically going to be awesome. your logic is incredibly great.
by PrincetonCubs on Dec 12, 2009 11:53 PM CST up reply actions
That wasnt my logic, it was just the point that others shared my view on him
I dont go to walterfootball.com to get my insights on players. I actually watch football and determine for myself who I think will be good and who will be bad and who will be a steal, like Blount. It is called knowledge.
The mothership is a nickname for ESPN
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
right
because none of us watch football. that’s why we post here.
by PrincetonCubs on Dec 13, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
Rob Rang - NFLDraftScout.com
His words -—— Prior the season, I listed Blount as one of six senior prospects capable of moving from a relative unknown all the way to the first round. The 6-1, 240 pound back broke school records and led the Pac-10 with 17 rushing touchdowns despite operating behind starter Jeremiah Johnson. His size and bullish running style had earned comparisons to the Giants’ Brandon Jacobs
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
Yea drawing comparisons to Brandon Jacobs and Jonathan Stewart
Yea who would want that!
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
Heres one that sounds interesting as well
LeGarrette Blount/RB/Oregon: Blount’s transgressions on the field are now well-known to even the most passive football fan. NFL scouting services ranked him as one of the top five senior running backs coming into the season. Scouts hoped Blount could improve upon a junior season which saw him rush for 1,002 yards and school-record 17 touchdowns. His stats for his final season at Oregon will read eight rushing attempts for 5 yards. Blount’s college career is likely over and his pro prospects are in peril. With so much focus on anger management issues in today’s NFL, Blount’s draft stock has gone from a potential top-60 pick to a likely late-round selection.
NFL SCOUTING SERVICES, so just so you know the NFL Scouts had him pinned up in the early rounds. But we will never know if he wouldve improved or not after his record breaking season last year. So just let it go.
Lets just hope he has a bad bowl game, sucks at the combine, and on his pro day and then we can steal him even later. Than you guys can have your precious team saving OLineman in the 3rd round and we can finally get a complimentary back to Forte that actually brings something different to the table.
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
I dont know whats wrong but my computer wont let me show the link.
strated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/09/07/risers.sliders/index.html
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
you're citing the same guy over and over again
and he said he was capable of moving up in to the 1st round. unfortunately, we won’t know. end of story.
GIVE IT UP. you act like he’s the second coming of walter payton.
by PrincetonCubs on Dec 12, 2009 11:49 PM CST up reply actions
Tony Pauline of Sports Illustrated and Rob Rang of your precious NFLDraftScout are two different source, are they not???????
If he was the second coming of Sweetness, he would be getting a first round selection. This is a discussion about getting a backup for Forte, no I never said he will have 2000 yards rushing next year, but yes I am saying whoever is SMART enough to steal him late in the draft will be getting a solid contributor to their respective team.
This is the link to your second source, like I said something was up with my computer.
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
so after saying repeatedly above
that Blount is Brandon Jacobs and Jon Stewart combined, and he’s fill such a huge need for the team, now all the Bears would allegedly be getting is a backup RB. when they have needs for starters at multiple positions. yeah, that’s not inconsistent at all.
by PrincetonCubs on Dec 13, 2009 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
I never said he would be starter
But that really has no bearing, no good teams only have one good back, they always have two. NOTE: Jonathan Stewart is a BACKUP and a solid one at that.
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
ha
the Patriots/Bengals/Packers would all dispute that point. And good teams have other good things too, like OLs that can actually block
by PrincetonCubs on Dec 15, 2009 5:54 PM CST up reply actions
The Bengals who have Larry Johnson. right they didnt think they needed a backup or anything
Oh and the Pats with Maroney and a the pick up of Fred Taylor before the season, hmmmmm seemed like they thouhgt they needed a backup too.
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
oh
you mean Larry Johnson, the guy who was signed to play for CB for one week when he was injured, and has 5 carries since then? that Larry Johnson?
by PrincetonCubs on Dec 16, 2009 8:44 PM CST up reply actions
You sight nfldraftscout as one of your sources and than I get you an actual article from a writer from nfldraftscout and you discount it, curious
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
lol
and what I mentioned was on the same page as you.
Oregon RB LeGarrette Blount began the season carrying some character baggage thanks to a suspension last season for failing to live up to team obligations and the fact he came into spring practice overweight and out of shape, and his sucker punch of Boise State LB Byron Hout on Thursday night took those minor concerns and made them massive.
We talked last night to a college scouting director from an NFL team who said, “In the matter of five minutes, Blount just went from second- or third-rounder to completely undraftable.” .
Can we just move on now…
by PrincetonCubs on Dec 13, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
No you actually had a link to how he was going to be a 5th round pick.
You mentioned nfldraftscout thats about it though.
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
Not knowing that a lot of good OLs
are found in or after round 3 is remarkable. Hard to grasp why you would believe such nonsense.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Dec 12, 2009 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
Im saying that there is a slim chance that they will make a BIG impact next year.
And I do believe that Blount would make an immediate impact. Tell me are you sold on Forte, even if we get a 3rd round OLineman do you really think he will be back to normal???
Oh by the way, I seem to remember an argument I had with you on how I thought Iglesias would be a bust similar to the way fellow Sooner Mark Bradley was a bust in the NFL and you found that laughable as well. So much for that huh.
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
we haven't even seen Iglesias on the field yet
some guys sit, and then make an impact later. Mike Sims Walker this season, for example
by PrincetonCubs on Dec 12, 2009 4:26 PM CST up reply actions
where to start?
1. Rookie OLs make an impact all the time. it is not unusual even for a rookie drafted in round 3 or beyond.
2. Forte gained 1200 yards last year, so clearly he is a high quality RB. The difference between this season and last, the OL, yet you blame Forte. Go figure.
3. Iglesias is a bust? Since he has not played it is premature to call him a bust. Bennett did not play last year, so by your “thinking” he was a bust, yet he is a regular WR this year. However, even if Iglesias turns out to be a bust, it does not change the fact that not knowing that a lot of quality OLs are drafted in the third or beyond is laughable. Admit it and move on.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Dec 14, 2009 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
Ok you may be prepared to go into next season with only 1 running back but Im not.
Im not saying trade the guy, Im just saying Forte cannot be trusted even with a fixed O Line. We need help at the position regardless of IF he gets back to form or not. Thats why we picked up Jones for a two year deal, to take the mass amount of touches off Fortes back, because RBs with over 400 touches usually dont last that long at that pace. ANY good team has two, which we dont have.
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
if you cannot debate honestly, you shouldn't start stuff
Nowehere did anyone say anything about going into next season with only one RB. Of course the Bears need a second back behind Forte, and if they should somehow find a guy who beats Forte out for the starting job, fine. But if the Bears go into next season with Forte as their featured RB, they will be fine if they have upgraded the OL.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Dec 15, 2009 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
The entire point to this post was to attain a backup RB in Blount. jesus
What exactly am I starting by saying that Blount would be a solid compliment. Backup or however you want to title them they will be splitting carries.
This was the argument since you jumped on 3 days after it started with your two cents. Blount in the 3rd round or an O Lineman in the 3rd round.
If you think that they SHOULD get a RB to go along with Forte next year, than what exactly are we arguing about because that is all Im saying.
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
Honest arguing huh,
Like bringing up 2nd Round picks in argument about 3rd Round picks, or Bringing up Teams WITH backup RBs to disprove that we dont need a backup RB.
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
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