NFL Combine Thread - QB, RB, WR
by Adam T on Feb 22, 2009 9:14 AM CST
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Today the skill positions take the field. The only one of these that the Bears would look to be interested in in the early rounds of the draft is wide receiver.
(UPDATE #1: Seems to be some confusion from Crabtree's camp. Two main rumors thus far: 1) Some members of his group want to get a second opinion; 2) Unverified (and probably bogus) rumors of maybe having Crabtree run at his pro day on 3/26 and then getting the surgery. Anyways, it's been a slow day at the combine thus far. Harvin and Heyward-Bey ran unofficial sub-4.4's. Back with more later.--ChiFan13)
(UPDATE #2: Sports Illustrated is verifying that Crabtree will run at his 3/26 pro day and then have surgery. Hopefully it works out for him and he doesn't re-aggravate it prior to then.--ChiFan13)
(UPDATE #3: Here's the unofficial 40 times for some of QB's after two tries: Pat White - 4.50; Stephen McGee - 4.58; Mike Reilly - 4.74; John Parker Wilson - 4.81; Matthew Stafford - 4.84; Mark Sanchez - 4.88; Curtis Painter - 4.92; Brian Hoyer - 4.97; Chase Holbrook - 5.08.--ChiFan13)
(UPDATE #4: Here's the unofficial 40 times for some of the WR's: Mike Wallace - 4.28; Mike Thomas - 4.31; Kenny McKinley - 4.33; TiQuan Underwood - 4.33; Ogletree - 4.37; Andrew Means - 4.44; Brian Robiskie - 4.49; Darius Passmore - 4.51; Jordan Norwood - 4.57; Mohamed Massaquoi - 4.57; Derrick Williams - 4.58; Greg Orton - 4.62; David Richmond - 4.62; Jaison Williams - 4.64; Nate Swift - 4.64.--ChiFan13)
(UPDATE #5: Here's the only RB broad jump I was able to see: Beanie Wells - 10'8".--ChiFan13)
(UPDATE #6: Couple quick thoughts during the QB drills. . .Mark Sanchez hasn't looked very good; has been drastically underthrowing receivers. . .Pat White and Mike Reilly looked excellent throughout the drills. . .Chase Holbrook struggled with short-term accuracy, but looked good otherwise.--ChiFan13)
(UPDATE #7: RB Rashad Jennings of Liberty just ran an unofficial 4.49.--ChiFan13)
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Say no to Harvin
The Bears obviously need a bigger, physical WR type like DHB. He seems to have a good head on his shoulders, while Harvin scares the crap out of me. He’s an injury waiting to happen.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
No, but I saw his unofficial time
I wonder if he’s going to shoot up team’s draft boards now…ugh.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
I guess I'm in the minority
that isn’t sold on DHB as a first round pick. I’d love to be wrong if we get him, but I’d like to see more production. Yes he didn’t have QB talent, but I still think it’s a gamble to take a guy in the first round who hasn’t produced just because he’d a great athelete. Drafting a WR is such an inexact science already, taking a guy with no production seems like its taking a risky proposition and making it even dicier.
DEJESUS!!!
I know what you mean
But did you see Maryland’s talent? Just terrible. Absolutely atrocious.
He’s an athlete with elite attributes and exactly the type of player we need.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
ChiFan13
Being kind and generous with his adjectives.
depressed that he now has to watch Maryland WITHOUT DHB
Insert clever and witty remark slash pun here!
UMD 8/04 - 5/08: Go Terps!
It's great
That he can run fast in a straight line..if only he could run crisp routes..Don’t we already have a fast guy in Hester. Gimme Nicks, surprised at 4.49 and runs great routes and has hands..
Wait
There’s a huge flaw in that logic…you can teach route running. Can’t really teach straight line speed.
Not only that, but DHB is 6’2". All that with with his height….I’d love to grab him.
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I would just rather
Have Nicks in round 2 more productive football player. When I see wr potential I also translate that into potential star or potential bust. I don’t want to risk my number one on that.
He's worth the risk
Pretty much every pick in the NFL draft is considered a risk. He’s a good one because of his physical skills and high character. What talent evaluators have to look at is his ability to run good routes, and come in and out of his breaks quickly. Plus, didn’t he play in a Pro-style offense at MD?
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
The best WR in this draft is Heyward-Bey
He is more of a physical freak then Larry Fitzgerald. He has run a 4.23 40 in college, where Fitzgerald in the high 4.3 to flat 4.4 range. His HS vertical was 40 inches which is 2 inches higher than Fitzy and at 6-3 (which is Fitzy height also) on a jump-ball play, he can get to a ball that is 10’7’’ in the air. Unlike Crabtree, Harvin, and Maclin he had a horrible QB sitution in college, if he had Daniels, Harell, or Tebow throwing to him he would be considered a lock to go to the Rams at 2 and likely the Lions would be getting some serious trade offers for him.
Larry Fitz
had 1600 yards and 22 TDs before coming out to DHBs 600 yds and 5 TDs.
I’ll take a history of production over physical traits any day of the week. If you can name me a WR who didn’t produce in college, but became an NFL star because of their speed, then I’ll reconsider my position.
DEJESUS!!!
If speed were the most important factor
the raiders would have a championship dynasty. we all know how al davis loves speed guys
OH! STEWIE!! GET OUT THE WAY BOY! GET OUT THE WAY!
-Stacey King
by ifuwannacrownem on Feb 22, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
I agree...
with an under performing offensive football team in college, he will excel where ever he goes in the NFL. I think it is unfair to compare him to Larry Fitzgerald, that guys is a freak and one of the best receivers in the NFL.
If you really want to compare statistics though… Chad Johnson only had 713 yards and 6 TDs playing at Oregon State.
Bey
Has officialy run the fastest WR time at 4.30
Hope he has hands to boot
i’d take anyone as long as Sir Drop a Lot stays on special teams
OH! STEWIE!! GET OUT THE WAY BOY! GET OUT THE WAY!
-Stacey King
by ifuwannacrownem on Feb 22, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions
No Can Do
That’s Braylon Edwards
Insert clever and witty remark slash pun here!
UMD 8/04 - 5/08: Go Terps!
I'm digging the fact that
Sanchez is underperforming. Hopefully we stay away from him…
Things will get better as they improve...
Maclin
Left the combine earlier today because of a leg injury. Anybody else see that?
That's shitastic!
by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Feb 22, 2009 3:50 PM CST reply actions
Yeah
Nicks also pulled up after a drill, but I didn’t hear anything about him.
Maclin got “injured,” but said in an interview afterwards that he barely hyperextended his knee. He was looking forward to running a 4.3 during his pro day (3/5).
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
Ok
Just making sure ESPN wasn’t bullshiting me. Thanks.
That's shitastic!
by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Feb 22, 2009 3:54 PM CST reply actions
Ian Johnson
Boise State’s Ian Johnson with an unofficial 4.38 forty looks like a great fit if still available in the 3rd round. Better fit than Wolfe and with that kind of speed he could also split time at slot receiver.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
What about the guy from Rutgers?
Is it Britt? Someone on the NFL network had him rated higher than DHB.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
Big character questions
He’s a good WR. But I really don’t want a questionable character guy.
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He's big
physical, fast (I think he ran a high 4.4 or something) and has great hands. He’s compared to TO on the field, and baby TO off the field. I wouldn’t mind seeing him on the Bears, I think he would do well in the cold weather, and it would probably be awhile before his ego took over. I think Nicks is similar and comes without the baggage, so he’d be my first choice.
DEJESUS!!!
As long as someone like Lance
can put him in his place, that’s fine.
I do like Nicks tho. He’d be a great WR and he could be had in the 2nd.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
Ditto
The Bears can’t afford to use high picks on low character guys.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
First Time ran a 4.38 Second Time a 4.46
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
I bleive your right
I still would like to see him in a Bears uniform.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
We Should Pick Up
Greg Orton in like 5th or 6th round if he is there, just for the Orton to Orton…Touchdown!! chance. And they both went to Purdue. Yes.
by Sam Householder on Feb 22, 2009 7:16 PM CST reply actions
That would be too confusing with Greg Olsen
Derrick Rose-2009 ROTY Tyrus Thomas-2009 MIP...hope I'm at least half right
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Feb 22, 2009 10:04 PM CST up reply actions
And Kyle Orton
The Terrible Trifecta…..I can already hear Jeff Joniak saying that next year.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
Wow. Jennings with a 4.49
That might put him in the 2nd round.
and thanks for the update on Holbrook. :)
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that.
We know it's the most valuable position on the football team. We've gone through so many scenarios at that position we can write a book, moreso on what not do."
-- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
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Figured you'd want to know if you didn't see it
I was impressed, I’ll give you that. But I figure we already have one project in Hanie :)
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I can't find ANYTHING on Nate Davis
So I take that as he did not impress much. Too bad…
by Sam Householder on Feb 23, 2009 12:28 AM CST up reply actions
I watched all of the QB's
And I didn’t get to see him throw once. Maybe he didn’t throw?
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
I heard he was under 6'2"
ran a 4.9 40, and didn’t look great in passing drills. Rex soured me quite a bit on short QBs, but if Davis falls into the 3rd or 4th I’d definitely take a chance on him.
DEJESUS!!!
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