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With Cassel in KC, should we go after Thigpen?

Now that it appears Scott Pioli has chosen to reunite with Matt Cassell in Kanas City, it would seem likely that KC might want to put Tyler Thigpen on the block to see if they could renet some draft picks.

Thigpen was the 7th round pick of the Vikes in the 07 draft. After failing to make the Vikings, he was picked up on waivers by the Chiefs. He got into one game in his rookie campaign getiing 41 yards while completing a third of his six passes. Last year, due to injury (Bradie Croyle) and ineffectiveness (Damon Huard) Thigpen played in 14 games starting 11 of them. After taking his lumps in his first few starts last year he showed signs in his last 10 games. He finished 6 of those 10 games with a QB rating above 80,  8 above 75 and 9 above 70. The only game in that stretch that was below 70 was the week 16 game aganist the Dolphins that was on the coldest temps of a game played this year. He finished the year with a 76 QB rating, 2, 608 yards and a 18-12 TD-INT ratio. Those stats are in the ballpark of Orton's year 79.6 QB rating, 2,972 yards and an identical TD-INT ratio.

One knock on Thigpen is that he was the product of a shotgun offense that KC was using as their base offense towards the end of last year. However, you could use that knock on Cassell and to a lesser extent Kurt Warner for their production last season. On the plus side he is more mobile than Orton is rushing for 386 yards last year which led NFL QB's. Personel wise Thigpen had a great WR to throw to in Bowe but had no RB to hand off to, which is the opposite issue that Orton had last year. Thigpen is 2 year younger than Orton and has 22 less starts ( a season and a third worth of starts) so he does have some upside going for him. I think he is worth bringing into town for a 4th round pick in 09 or a 2010 conditional pick that would max out at a 2nd rounder if he proves in 09 he is our elusive franchise QB.

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I am leaning towards no

He had a decent year but I think I would rather see Orton get a shot and see what Hanie’s got than throwing away more picks. I think the bigger thing is why didn’t Jerry “We Need to Solidify the QB Position” Angelo call up the Pats and find out all it would take is a second rounder to get Cassel? Damn! That is a good trade (Although there is a chance, I suppose, that the Pats cut their former guy Pioli some slack in the trade)

by GallopingGhost on Feb 28, 2009 1:06 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

The 34th pick is alot different than the 18th pick in the second round

At pick 34, you are getting a 1st round talent without having to pay 1st round type bonus money. At Our 2nd round pick, we are getting a second round talent, which isnt bad but also not the value of the pick that the Pats got.

by Devin47 on Feb 28, 2009 1:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

OK but even so

Let’s say it’d take our second and our 4th to equal KC’s second, why wouldn’t that be a deal you want to pull the trigger on?

by GallopingGhost on Feb 28, 2009 3:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i think thigpen

would be worth a second day pick. he’s mobile and played outstanding for a emergency QB. I thought he would be going in 2009 the starter for sure.

OH! STEWIE!! GET OUT THE WAY BOY! GET OUT THE WAY!
-Stacey King

by ifuwannacrownem on Feb 28, 2009 2:25 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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OH! STEWIE!! GET OUT THE WAY BOY! GET OUT THE WAY!
-Stacey King

by ifuwannacrownem on Feb 28, 2009 2:29 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

How do you decide if you

are going to capitalize a word or not? Flip a coin?

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Feb 28, 2009 3:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

it's a twitch

I can’t Explain it. Your mom can however.

OH! STEWIE!! GET OUT THE WAY BOY! GET OUT THE WAY!
-Stacey King

by ifuwannacrownem on Feb 28, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather see

Derek Anderson than Tyler Thigpen.

Things will get better as they improve...

by Dane Noble on Feb 28, 2009 2:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

HAHAHAHAAAA

WOOO!! good one GB. i needed a laugh.

OH! STEWIE!! GET OUT THE WAY BOY! GET OUT THE WAY!
-Stacey King

by ifuwannacrownem on Feb 28, 2009 2:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Glad I could contribute to your day...

:)

Things will get better as they improve...

by Dane Noble on Feb 28, 2009 2:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm still drinkin' the Kyle Orton koolaid.

All this other QB talk is meaningless. I’m really believing that the Bears are ready to go with Orton, Hanie and Basanez going into training camp. I’ve been around long enough to know how these guys operate (Bears management). Like it or not, these are our QB’s.

Passion For The Game, Loyal To The Name, Chicago Bears, I Trust In Thee, Standing Strong Since 1983.

by Haightminow on Feb 28, 2009 2:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah but

we need to pick up a QB that will keep KO on his heels

OH! STEWIE!! GET OUT THE WAY BOY! GET OUT THE WAY!
-Stacey King

by ifuwannacrownem on Feb 28, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Who are you thinking?

It is a scary thought that we will enter the season with Orton/Hanie/Basanez…

But something tells me that’s what it’ll be…

Things will get better as they improve...

by Dane Noble on Feb 28, 2009 3:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nate Davis

I saw Kiper say the other day he thought Davis might still be available in the third or fourth round. Why wouldn’t we want to pick him in either of those two rounds? I think that would be awesome value. He should be going in the second round though

by GallopingGhost on Feb 28, 2009 3:02 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I think

the fact that he is shorter (6’1’) and slower (4.9 40) than expected will cause him to fall. I think there was something else at the combine people didn’t like too. Maybe it was passing drills. If he’s around in the 3rd or certainly the 4th I would definitely take him.

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Feb 28, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not big on spread option QB's

KC and NE were the only teams that used the spread a lot last year. I doubt Thigpen could be a good pocket QB right now.

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

by thecoolest on Feb 28, 2009 3:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

If you want to run the spread, then Thigpen's a good choice.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that.

We know it's the most valuable position on the football team. We've gone through so many scenarios at that position we can write a book, moreso on what not do."

-- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
.

by SackMan on Mar 1, 2009 8:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I don't know

he only completed 56% of his passes in that offense. That;s not too good, and he had much better weapons to throw to than we do.

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Mar 1, 2009 10:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Question:

Why aren’t we all upset that Cassell isn’t a Bear? I mean, all the Chiefs gave up was an early second round pick! If Pioli wants him, he must be good. Why didn’t JA get in on that deal, especially after stressing the importance of settling the QB position in his post-season press conference?

by dakoose on Mar 2, 2009 1:06 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Pioli had the inside track... he and Belichick are buds, and he drafted Cassell.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that.

We know it's the most valuable position on the football team. We've gone through so many scenarios at that position we can write a book, moreso on what not do."

-- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
.

by SackMan on Mar 2, 2009 7:49 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Cassell

It wasn’t just a trade. It was giving up the 2nd round pick and the contract that he would want. I’m glad the Bears passed.

by McRipper on Mar 2, 2009 8:47 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Cassel

You guys really underestimate this QB.He started slow,but as the season progressed,he was playing at an extremely high level. I don’t care what system he was in.He still had to make the throws.

by older than dirt on Mar 2, 2009 6:47 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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