Because sitting at 26 there was no one we really needed or wanted badly and there wasn’t much we were going to miss by trading back. To me its not more of a who did we get by trading back it’s who did we miss by trading back? I can’t speak for all these moves and maybe I will look some up later, but it seems to me if the 2 or 3 guys you really convent at that spot are gone, why not get more picks rather than pick your 4th or 5th best prospect, esp if those guys are going to be there 5 or more picks further back. You don’t want to reach.

and need immediate starters. I hope we use our 1st and 2nd round picks (in some fashion) instead of trading down.

Best case scenario really is grabbing a WR at 18 Nicks/DHB/Maclin, pick your poison I’m not going to say one over the other, but that’s the general consensus of what is going to help us the most that has any kind of value at 18.

Where as some kind of trade back/swap that nets us another 2nd rounder could do wonders for this team as I’ve said before.

Trade back into the late 1st/Early 2nd round, pick up the best out of the needs we have. That may be Kenny Britt, That may be quality FS prospect, That may be Phil Loadholt, That may be Duke Robinson.

If we came out of this draft with those 4 players, all four of them would be likely starters. Our offense would be much improved. Our WR core would feature Hester/Britt/Bennett with Rideau hopefully on the bench. We’d have a great RB tandem, behind a newly rebuilt line built to punish in the run game. We’d have two of the best TE in the league, and one up and coming 2nd year player. If we picked up one of the quality centers in this draft such as Eric Wood with our comp pick, our line could be pretty much set for the next decade.

You make the call on the Safety prospect, there are a ton of them in the draft and all are ranked roughly close together depending on who you ask. I think Sean Smith might be the best of the bunch for FS, but I’ve heard other good opinions ranking other people right there with him. However, as long as he can make a firm effort to start, he’s got to be better than the guy we got from the saints, and him and Zach can fight it out for the starter spot.

Pick up one of the FB prospects late in the draft Quinn Johnson/Brennan Southerland/Jorvorskie Lane,(I’d lean towards Southerland) and we’d turn into a extremely fearsome offense in one draft, with one of the best running games in the league, combined with a much improved passing game that would be tailor made to Orton’s abilities and we’d be extremely hard to stop.

FS is our biggest hole right now and I think between Zach and the new guy we should have a quality starter.

how can you say that.

bq.FS is our biggest hole right now and I think between Zach and the new guy we should have a quality starter.

I still think that we need to address WR. That is our biggest hole. Even the line. I agree that I think Bowman will be able to fill that spot in the near future I think he has a great upside but didn’t really have a chance to prove himself due to injury. I’m all for trading back IF it nets us good quality players. There is really no way to guess how players will turn out in the long run based on the round that they are drafted in.

I’d still like to see some form of action out of Halas before the draft so we don’t have to put all our hopes and dreams into what we can get from the draft. I don’t think I can hold my breath all that much longer though.

Find it incredibly sad that our two out of our top three needs last year, are two of our top needs this year?

how many years does angelo left have on his contract? if the bears tank in ’09 will he be back?

how many years does lovie have left on his contract? if the bears tank in ’09 will he be back?

The reason I ask is that I expect the bears to lose again. Lose badly actually. They will fail miserably in the draft again (AGAIN!) and put up a 5-to-7 win season and miss the playoffs for the 3rd consecutive year. If all I have to do is put with 1 more bad season to witness the angelo/lovie get the boot and Chicago bring in Shannahan, Cowher, etc. then I am all for it.

I do think most of those trades worked to the Bears advantage. But my buddy, also a Bears fan, threw out a crazy scenario. Haven’t looked to see if this even makes sense with any teams but I’m gonna say it any ways and its kinda what Sklz sd. Say we do trade back in the first round for a later 1st and another 2nd. then hope our comp pick is a 3rd and trade both 3rd’s for another second. We get a late first and three 2nd rounders. i know its a dream and J.A. couldn’t pull it off. But a little different approach then sklz. Grab DHB or your choice of reciever with the 1st, I’m sold on Louis Delmas as FS and honestly do think he would start by the end of the year. Hes the first 2nd rounder, then take your pick of the best o-line man and I say d-end. There should be a lot of talented guys left. Loadholt, maybe Beatty, Meredith, maybe we get lucky and Britton falls, but at least Tupou or Kropog, some road graders will be left. And at end, Barwin, maybe Michael Johnson, and he might be the best end in this draft, Ayers could fall, I like the Kruger kid, and the Richmond kid Sidbury wouldn’t be a bad last option. Any way I see the end position more urgent than interior o-line, if Kruetz gives out we have Beekman, Omiyale can fill a guard spot. But Wales a free agent after 2009, who knows if we can count on Anderson to fill the role and even A. Brown is getting old. And that’s really it at end. So it’s crazy I know but we could end up with four starters out of this draft. Sklz is right on with that, but at least we will have people in line to take the starters spots in 2010 and we’ve addressed the four biggest holes in the roster with at least 2nd round talent.

Sure, trading down makes sense sometimes, but when a franchise trades down 89 percent of the the time, that doesn’t exactly count as “sometimes.” That’s a trend, and this trend speaks to an inability to take risks at Halas Hall.

Are there any blue chips at 18? Not that I see. Not that any of you see. So yeah, if given the right offer, you could rationalize moving down. Again. But look at the history of picks we’ve netted: How many of them became anything other than depth prospects? How many of these “smart” moves netted us anything more than a low cap number?

But if you’re serious about “sometimes,” then when is trading up smart? I think it’s a lot smarter than we Bears fans tend to think. Bottom line: If you like a player, get him. Good lord, I’d rather have one Pro Bowler for four years than five special teamers for two years.

We need to pursue offensive line talent. We need better WRs (and I don’t see how trading down will net them). We need free safeties and fullbacks and linebackers. And the truth is, we won’t get all of them this year in the draft.

But what we really need is a great young franchise quarterback, and there happens to be one available — something that happens about once in a decade. We’ve got a decent young starter in Kyle Orton and a mid-round first we can offer in trade, and we should get about it right now. Not because we can spread out the risk and hope to get lucky, but because we make a talent evaluation and spot a unique opportunity and take a freaking risk.

I’m tired of my team fretting around in the shallow end of the pool. See the thing you want and go get it. Or go home.

I don’t think trading back is a problem, within reason. If you move back a few spots because you think the guy you’re targetting will still be there, that’s fine. But trading too far down (like out of the first round) is a bad idea. I don’t care if the formula says your pick is worth an extra 2nd and 4th rounder; if the extra picks that you “gained” end up doing little more than taking up space (hey Danieal, pay attention!!!), then you’ve gained nothing and wasted another shot at talent. Obviously there’s no guarantee that a first rounder will pan out either (as we’re all painfully aware,) but the chances of missing in the later rounds goes up as you move down the talent ladder.
   I don’t think Angelo is an idiot by any means, but I think he over-thinks things at times. He tries to be too clever and find the hidden-gem types like Briggs and Vasher. Unfortunately you end up with more Dan Bazuins than Alex Browns.
   I agree with Xarker. I’m not usually big on trading up, but if there’s someone you want then go for it. Don’t mortgage your whole future, but you gotta take a shot once in a while.