John St. Clair is a Chicago Bear No More

by Dane Noble on Mar 17, 2009 5:12 PM CDT Comment 64 comments

This story and this story are reporting John St. Clair has signed a 3 year, $9 million contract with the Cleveland Browns, with ~~$600k~~ $1.25 million guaranteed.

Good luck with that, Brownies.

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I think that makes

O-LIneman #1 Priority

"I am Kyles mom , I support him but I don't believe in him"- GeauxBears

by scespy12 on Mar 17, 2009 5:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I also think that

our OL is screwed. We’re one C-Will injury away from no holes.

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Mar 17, 2009 5:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

LOL...

we already have a lot of holes.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that.

We know it's the most valuable position on the football team. We've gone through so many scenarios at that position we can write a book, moreso on what not do."

-- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
.

by SackMan on Mar 18, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lol...

I wondered about that too. I’m guessing he meant something along the lines of not having anyone to open up holes. ChiFan was a bit traumatized when St. Clair left… his mind wasn’t right for a bit.

Where you been Sack? You’ve got some catching up to do…

what they you use lame AOL speak

by Dane Noble on Mar 18, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I meant not having anyone to open up holes

I was pissed at Jerry’s lack of foresight.

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Mar 18, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Apply directly to the forehead.

what they you use lame AOL speak

by Dane Noble on Mar 18, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

huh

JA is seriously that incompetent that he couldn’t resign an easily sign able John St. Clair?? Somone please sack him!

#34: You'll be missed!

by Chanman25 on Mar 17, 2009 5:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Would you have wanted JA to compete with the Browns 3mil/ year offer?

Ryan Perilloux in 2010!!

by Dane Noble on Mar 17, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Browns way overpaid for him. However, the interesting question is whether this makes that Kevin Schaffer available? People thought he might resign with the Browns, but this signing makes that unlikely.

by chase17 on Mar 17, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can someone tell

whether Shaffer is good? The Browns fans seemed happy to see him go, and the Browns replaced him with St Clair, which isn’t much of a vote of confidence for him. He is a RT, but is he a good one?

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Mar 17, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kevin Schaffer

He’s a decent run blocker and an OK pass blocker. He really excels with a good RG though. How is your guy’s RG?

Josh Cribbs for the Hall of Fame!

by kardiackids2007 on Mar 17, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lol

Probably about to lose his job too

"I'm thinking about getting metal legs. It's a risky operation, but it'll be worth it."

by Acreman20 on Mar 17, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We have a RG?

Since when? Garza doesn’t count.

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Mar 17, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yes, considering we are weak at that position and I believe there were reports out there saying he wanted 12-15 million too

and they got him for 9. If we had resigned him, our Oline would have been ok, now its a huge question mark. It doesn’t seem like JA is going after anyone either

#34: You'll be missed!

by Chanman25 on Mar 17, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I could see him being worth

like maybe 6 over 3 yrs. 9 I think is a bit of a stretch. The problem will b e that we’ll probably pay out more than 6 to fill his void. Here’s hoping we find someone worth the $$.

by lindemrm on Mar 17, 2009 5:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

What is the void?

A spot on the bench?

Ryan Perilloux in 2010!!

by Dane Noble on Mar 17, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the insurance policy

for if williams breaks. oh, and then there’s right tackle in case jerry decides to draft another broken rookie.

by lindemrm on Mar 17, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

…we’ll probably pay out more than 6 to fill his void.

There are cheaper band-aids out there.

Ryan Perilloux in 2010!!

by Dane Noble on Mar 17, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, Terrence Metcalf

If that name doesn’t get you excited, you probably have no heartbeat.

Totally kidding. Felt dirty writing it.

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Mar 17, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i have no heartbeat if we resign him LOL

#34: You'll be missed!

by Chanman25 on Mar 17, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Forte may not either with Metcalf in front of him.

by lindemrm on Mar 17, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

Metcalf would be too busy juicin up.

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Mar 17, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It helps injuries heal faster.

Ryan Perilloux in 2010!!

by Dane Noble on Mar 17, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If they have a talent roid....

…he needs to go to Sam’s Club and stock up. Otherwise, it’s a waste of money.

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Mar 17, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

lmao twice times...

Ryan Perilloux in 2010!!

by Dane Noble on Mar 17, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just puked in my mouth

by waywest on Mar 17, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

OOOOHHHH YESSSS (Orgasm!) [;

now the bears have no other choice but to get better at RT. Shaffer, Omiyale, Smith, or a draft pick, I just don;t give a DAMN!

OH! STEWIE!! GET OUT THE WAY BOY! GET OUT THE WAY!
-Stacey King

by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 17, 2009 6:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I do not want to see your keyboard..

#34: You'll be missed!

by Chanman25 on Mar 17, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LMAO!

OH! STEWIE!! GET OUT THE WAY BOY! GET OUT THE WAY!
-Stacey King

by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 17, 2009 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just cleaned up my keyboard.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that.

We know it's the most valuable position on the football team. We've gone through so many scenarios at that position we can write a book, moreso on what not do."

-- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
.

by SackMan on Mar 18, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, are you happy now?

Most of you got your wish, St.Clair is gone. Now were a little closer to being seriously f**ked. Cody Balough, you just got promoted.

Passion For The Game, Loyal To The Name, Chicago Bears, I Trust In Thee, Standing Strong Since 1983.

by Haightminow on Mar 17, 2009 6:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Who?

We have someone named that??

Ryan Perilloux in 2010!!

by Dane Noble on Mar 17, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LMAO!

OH! STEWIE!! GET OUT THE WAY BOY! GET OUT THE WAY!
-Stacey King

by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 17, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't mind that

St Clair won’t be here, but I am a little concerned that the Bears got outbid ona relatively small contract for a player they considered a priority to bring back. I didn’t want him back, but Angelo did, and couldn’t get him because of money (and not much of it).

Who said the Bears aren’t cheap?

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Mar 17, 2009 6:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Never has a post been so full of fail and win at the same time.

“Oh no, we didn’t resign St.Clair”
“Thank god we didn’t resign him for that much”
“At least we have Cody Balough”
“Awesome. Who is that?”
“Uh…”
“So about Phil Loadholt”

by Sklz711 on Mar 17, 2009 6:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

LOL

Most fans are probably torn because while St Clair was mediocre, and they are happy to have the possibility of an improvement, they have no confidence in Jerry angelo to find someone better, nor any confidence in the McCaskeys to approve paying anyone who is better.

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Mar 17, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yup, agreed

#34: You'll be missed!

by Chanman25 on Mar 17, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How sad

is it that we are happy that he’s gone but sad because we have no faith in the organization to do anything about it? I’m glad they didn’t get in a bidding war for JSC there’s no way he’s worth anywhere near what he got.

If things came easy, then everybody would be great at what they did, let's face it.
Mike Ditka
Catch Phrase of the day: YAAAAAAAY! <---- Courtesy of ChiFan13.

by Ditkavsworld on Mar 18, 2009 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bears will be fortunate to get to 6 WINS in 2009

This folks is shaping up to be a very ugly upcoming football season. Huge screaming position priorities at Offensive Tackle, Safety, Defensive End, Wide Receiver. Also the never-ending dilemma of having inadequate options at Quarterback.

Just imagine the ugliness of this offensive line if it turns out Chris Williams is bust. Wu-wee are we in for good times in Chicago !!!!

by BLou on Mar 17, 2009 7:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

So if we win 10 - 12 Games and make the playoffs

Will you give JA credit for his offseason decisions, or will you be predicting doom for 2010 based on next years offseason.

by sheepskinz1 on Mar 17, 2009 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He only comes around

to gloat when things are bad. He does the same thing at bleedcubbieblue, where he’s been banned multiple times under multiple account names for being a horses ass and a blowhard. He loves it when bad things happen, it’s the only time he posts. He will not ever (never ever) admit that he was wrong—which he frequently is despite his absolutist statements of prophetic doom.

Ignore him.

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Mar 17, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

banned from bcb?

that only makes someone sound better.

by mike b on Mar 17, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol

You got it in for BCB, huh mike?

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Mar 17, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i won't even start

by mike b on Mar 18, 2009 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Let's try again

Doesn’t everybody get banned at BTI?

by McRipper on Mar 18, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well I'd eat crow haha

but I have a bad outlook on the season..

#34: You'll be missed!

by Chanman25 on Mar 17, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hate to agree with you

but our holes seem like they aren’t receiving any attention nor will they be filled. It may take a shitty season for this team to sack JA and Lovie and get personnel in here that will try to build a true contender. I don’t want this team to fail, but I think it looks grim

#34: You'll be missed!

by Chanman25 on Mar 17, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

2010

Maybe bears ownership is trying to make Chicago as attractive as possible for the big coaches looking for jobs in 2010. Terrible 2009 (which I expect) will lead to a good (possibly great) draft pick a year from now.

Let’s assume worst case scenario and the Bears have a top 3 choice in 2010 draft and have their choice of Bradford, McCoy, or Tebow (superman).

Could make for a very attractive employment opportunity for someone like Shannahan who has chicagoland roots.

Sorry for all the posts about next years team but I am sick of watching Lovie and Angelo running their version of Bears football. I hate Lovie defending his guys. I hate the lack of accountability. I hate the relationship with the media. I hate Bears football being average. I hate the DAMN musical chair game this organization plays and it always equates to crap. I hate trading down in the draft. I only hope for a real football couch like Shannahan or Cowher making residence in the Chi in 2010 (and an equally as impressive GM).

by tripsevens on Mar 17, 2009 9:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

are the football couches nice?

i see them in catalogs but i always figured they were low quality.

by mike b on Mar 17, 2009 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

re: football couches

well played sir

by tripsevens on Mar 17, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Doesn't everybody

get banned from BCB?

by McRipper on Mar 18, 2009 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That was weird

Sorry, that should have been replied up above.

by McRipper on Mar 18, 2009 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not Concrete Cyanide, I don't think I could live if the Bears drafted Tebow as a top 3 choice.

by chase17 on Mar 17, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

tebow

you’re right… bad example.

by tripsevens on Mar 17, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd love McCoy in a Bears uni

#34: You'll be missed!

by Chanman25 on Mar 17, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why?

So we can have another weak-armed QB in Chicago. I think he is a great QB, but he has a weak arm, Texas relied on a quick timing passing game last season. Plus, if history repeats itself Texas QBs haven’t been gunslingers since Major Applewhite, ex. Vince Young, Chris Simms, and that makes me hesitant about McCoy.

by chase17 on Mar 17, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, just like I'm hesitant on Bradford

When you have all the weapons and time in the world, anyone can look good (see: Graham Harrell).

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Mar 17, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Didn't work out well having a gunslinger in Grossman

n/t

#34: You'll be missed!

by Chanman25 on Mar 18, 2009 6:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is a little concerning

Not re-signing St. Clair is a vote of no confidence for JA. He is by most accounts very average, but you’re playing with fire when you only have only 2 OTs under contract this late in free-agency. Sometimes you have to over pay for a player when you have a huge need to fill. It will be very upsetting If Shaffer or Pace isn’t visiting Halas Hall by the weekend. No matter what happens in free-agency, JA will be drafting a RT and Guard early in the draft.

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

by propheteer on Mar 17, 2009 10:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I agree...

Regardless of what you thought of St.Clair, we’d have been better off with him on the roster. Angelo said he was a priority, then lowballed the guy who probably would have been the starter at RT. At very least the top backup at both G & T. $9 mil is probably too much for him but it never should have come to that.

by waywest on Mar 17, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think

Pace or Chris Williams can play RT. I would be shocked if we signed Pace. Shocked, and confused where he’d play, or whether this means something is wrong with Chris Williams. Plus we’d still need a RT.

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Mar 17, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The biggest knock on williams

Coming put of college was his lack of run blocking. So no he could not play RT.

"I am Kyles mom , I support him but I don't believe in him"- GeauxBears

by scespy12 on Mar 17, 2009 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't rule out a move to RT for Williams

It would seem the fusing of 2 spinal vertebrae would make a person less flexible, but perhaps even stronger. During Smith’s tenure the Bears seem to prefer quick OTs(whether right or left). I doubt he can ever truly become a road-grader who plays with a mean streak that most teams look for in a RT, but in this sytem he could suffice. Its not like the Bears strictly run to the right side.

by gillrowdy on Mar 18, 2009 7:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs