Why the Bears have to sign a veteran QB after the draft
With the unlikelihood that Cutler will be traded for (and even if he was), the Bears are going to need a veteran QB to step in if Orton gets hurt IF they truly believe this is a playoff-caliber team. Whether or not Basanez or Hanie can be good NFL QBs does not matter. Neither has had enough field-experience to carry an offense on their shoulder and do enough to pull out games. If Hanie wins the back-up, this just means that if Orton goes down with another ankle injury, that the offense will slow down more, and the chances are more likely that Hanie will have a couple of good games (or, gulp, plays) before defenses will totally adjust to him.
I have faith that Orton can play well enough to get the team in the playoffs, and I believe the defense will return to a Top 10 defense IF we shore up the safety position. Urlacher will be fully healed from his neck issues (psychologically he seemed to have a tough year), and I believe Lovie will put him back in the proper positioning. I keep reading about how Urlacher has lost a step, and I saw him play a step behind and try to arm tackle last year rather than run people over, but I don't think that is because he somehow is that much slower. As I just stated, I think it had to do more with two things: 1. His neck/back issues (mentally and physically), and 2. He was out of position on a majority of the plays last year -- since childhood, having played and watched the game for a couple decades, I have assumed that LBs, especially MLBs, start most of their snaps playin 5-7 yards off the line of scrimmage. Urlacher was forced to move around, and up on the line, way too much last year.
Babich over-schemed Urlarcher and the defense, and there was way too much motion at the LB positions. If Urlacher is allowed to set his feet and react from a standing position in the middle, rather than running back and forth on the line faking blitzes, then I think he'll have his step back. That means the middle will be patrolled again, unlike last year, and that means better defense in the 5-10 yard range. I see Urlacher having a "comeback" type year if Lovie utilizes him like the old days.
That means that the offense will need to be efficient , at least in the top 20. Orton can do this, but I am not sure Hanie or Basanez can. They are scramblers, and though I was impressed with Hanie in the pre-season, the QB position is the most pressure-filled position. Both of our backups are hindered by their escapability because neither has had to endured game after game of NFL defensive pressure. Those wonderful scrambles and spins we saw out of Hanie in the preseason are high-risk plays. More often, those risks will not pay off...unless Hanie is somehow the reincarnation of Brett Favre. Our offense has proven it cannot handle that type of risk, over the long haul of a game, and a season.
We don't have the scheme or the play calling to overcome high risk plays. The thing with Orton his first two years was that he dropped the ball off a lot from the pocket. He got rid the ball quickly. I don't see that our of either of these guys, and part of it is that they have legs to "make plays."
This is why we'll sign a veteran before June. The only way we don't is the Bears have fallen in love with Josh Freeman and secretly plan to, and then do draft him. This assumes Sanchez and Stafford are gone, of course. I don't see the Bears, if they truly believe the team is good enough to make the playoffs, sticking with inexperienced backups. Most teams that expect to make the playoffs (Cowboys, Giants, Steelers, for example) have an experienced back-up, or two, to their starters.
So, who will be available come May?
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I'm not so sure.
I’m thinking we stay with what we have.
Passion For The Game, Loyal To The Name, Chicago Bears, I Trust In Thee, Standing Strong Since 1983.
Sounds like a plan to me...
Or Jeff Garcia, or Gibran Hamdan, or Drew Henson… or Kyle Boller ffs.
what they you use lame AOL speak
Boller
is one of the guys I think signed in May to be a back-up wouldn’t be too bad. He does come with some bone-headedness. Two of my friends are Ravens freaks, and one absolutely hates Boller the way Bears fans felt about Rex.
I’ve said before that I’d like Boller as a back-up, but caution his or any other QB brought in to be a savior or replacement for Orton (even though I wouldn’t mind Boller getting a chance if he were signed). Too bad we couldn’t get Sage Rosenfels…he’s a respectable no. 2
I'm pretty sure
I’ve never heard of Gibran Hamdan. Sounds like a Roman gladiator.
DEJESUS!!!
6'4", 220lbs
Drafted in the 7th round out of Indiana in 2003. Is already a journeyman in the league, having been on 5 different rosters (Seahawks twice).
And, a big ol’ oops… looks like the Bills re-signed him last month… so scratch that thought.
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also the first QB in NFL history of middle eastern descent.
OH! STEWIE!! GET OUT THE WAY BOY! GET OUT THE WAY!
-Stacey King
by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 23, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Naw
I think JA and Lovie would rather eat nails than try to address backup QB. Good analysis of #54. I agree that the defense will get back to the top-10 in total defense and will probably lead the league in turnovers. Here’s praying for that to happen!
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
This isn't a Super Bowl caliber team...
So… what’s the point of having a veteran backup to Orton?
Better off letting Hanie or Basanez, or a rookie QB get into the game, than some old journeyman QB who won’t be part of the team’s long-term plans anyway.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that.
We know it's the most valuable position on the football team. We've gone through so many scenarios at that position we can write a book, moreso on what not do."
-- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
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because...
the team management seems to think differently than you.
And if the Cardinals can get there, so can the Bears with a serviceable offense. As I stated at the beginning of the post, if the Bears really believe this is a playoff-caliber team then they will likely sign a QB in May or June.
Yep.
The Cards passing O got all of the attention last season… but one of the biggest building blocks for them over the last 2 or 3 seasons was their ability to stop the run
We have that ability… and I agree that with a decent offense, we can win a few more games next year.
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Stop deluding yourself.
We have an untested starting LT.
We don’t have a starting RT.
We don’t have a starting FS.
We don’t have a starting #1 WR.
Do you honestly think we’re a playoff team?
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that.
We know it's the most valuable position on the football team. We've gone through so many scenarios at that position we can write a book, moreso on what not do."
-- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
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Your hopeless Sack.
Why even be a Bear fan?
Passion For The Game, Loyal To The Name, Chicago Bears, I Trust In Thee, Standing Strong Since 1983.
He also proved
that he can find the most creative ways to fumble the football… often times without ever being touched by anyone.
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LOL! just knew it was coming.
OH! STEWIE!! GET OUT THE WAY BOY! GET OUT THE WAY!
-Stacey King
by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 23, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Yea,
Grossman definately knows the system best, but the media would be intolerable. Plus why would he want to come back here.
I really like Garcia, but he doesn’t fit our system. He is too much of a scrambler, unless we really upgrade our Oline they would never be able to protect him. I’m just glad that the Viqueens didn’t pick him up.
I have no problems with Leftwich.
I think you are probably right
They will sign a veteran to be the backup. I wouldn’t mind Grossman, Garcia, or Leftwich for a 1year deal. they are all probably squirming a little bit right now, waiting to find a team.

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