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The Consistent Mistake Made By The McCaskeys

At the top of an NFL team we have three entities:  Owner, GM and HC.

Let’s look at ownership.  The NFL has a salary cap, both minimum and maximum.  Even if an owner wanted to hoard all the TV money, they couldn’t.  A large percentage HAS to be paid out in player salaries.

The GM.  It is often said ( and I agree) that the talent level is spread pretty evenly throughout the league (except at the QB position, where only about 1/3 of the teams have excellent QB’s).  All GM’s have their hits and misses.  All of them.  The draft always has been and always will be somewhat of a crapshoot.  Beyond that, with all the national scouting bureaus and information available to teams (and fans) every team is almost guaranteed of getting at least a few quality players year after year.

Would it help a team to have an ownership group that spent as much money as possible and/or a GM who is above average when it comes to drafting talent?  Absolutely. However,  I live in Phoenix.  No owner has a cheaper reputation that Bill Bidwill.  As far as talent goes, they almost ALWAYS pick in the top 10.  Sooner or later you have to acquire talent picking that high.  That helps explain how the woeful Cardinals finally made the SB.  It wasn’t cause of great ownership or even great drafting (their draft mistakes in the last decade are startling.  The only thing that saved them in any manner was how high they always drafted and Dennis Greens three drafts while there).

Now the HC.  This is the position where we have the widest variance regarding quality. Remember, even the worst owner has to spend X amount of money.  Even the worst GM has to pick a certain number of good players.  It would be almost hard not to year after year.  The HC?  He could be terrible or great.  I’m sure each of you can think of recent great HC’s and recent terrible HC’s.

The number one job of the HC is to squeeze the very most out of all of his players.  Some coaches, through leadership and motivational skills, can do this.  Most can’t.  The Bears had two of the very best when they had Mike Ditka and Buddy Ryan.  A GREAT HC can do more with average players than a mediocre HC can do with better players.  That’s just the way it is.  Look no further than Dallas and San Diego. Two of the most talented teams in the league who did almost nothing in 2008, thanks to having glorified coordinators as HC’s.  One missed the playoffs and the other just squeezed in.

This is the greatest area of weakness with the McCaskey’s.  Michael replaced the fired Ditka with the hot assistant Dave Wannstedt.  Not only that, he gave this guy control over personnel.   I guess McCaskey thought he was getting a chip off the old block (Jimmy Johnson) when he hired Wannstedt in those dual roles.  WRONG!  Wanny was a mediocre (at best) HC and a terrible GM.  Case closed.

Next, we have Dick Jauron.  But first we all know about the McGinnis fiasco that preceded the hiring of Dick Jauron.  But you know what the best part of that was.  McGinnis was a CRAPPY HC.  I know.  I live in Phoenix.  Oh, everybody loved Mac here.  He was one of those always optimistic guys who loved life.  The players loved him.  He always had those great sayings like “One for all and all for one” or “This team beats with one heart” and so on.  He was a great cheerleader.  However, he was a pretty crappy HC.  When he was finally (and reluctantly) fired, everybody in the media and on the team and the fans said how much they were going to miss old Dave.  Of course nobody objected to his firing. Losing wears on a team and it’s fans.  They were all sad to see Mac go, but they (deep down) wanted him gone nonetheless).

In comes Jauron.  In his book (Tales from the Chicago Bears Sideline), Steve McMichael gives Jauron the kiss of death.  Says he’s a nice guy like Neill Armstrong, the guy Ditka replaced.  McMichael (on page 23):  Neill was a lot like another Bears coach, Dick Jauron.  He was laid back, he wasn’t a volatile guy, and all the guys liked him because he let them loaf and get away with SHIT.  (Hmm, almost like Mac in Arizona).  See a pattern here?  I sure do.

And then, to add insult to injury we have this.  A true Leader of Men” and one of the all time great Bears in history (Mike Singletary) tried to get a job on Jauron’s staff in 2002 and the McCaskey’s (in their INFINITE stupidity) turned him down (more on this later).

We then move to JA and Lovie.  Lovie and Dungy sell them selves as the “Anti-Lombardi” types, both in skin color and in temperment.  All I know is that when Vince Lombardi went to GB, they were the WORST team in the league.  They were so bad that other teams threatened their players by telling them that “if they didn’t shape up, they were going to be sent to GB). With basically the same players, Vince Lombardi MADE those  players play at a level most never dreamed they could play at.  That’s EXACTLY the kind of guy I want on my sideline.  I don’t want the “Anti-Lombardi.”  I want a guy as close to real Lombardi as I can get.

I would grade these HC’s like this:  Wannstedt - D to F.  16 games under 500 and his STUIPIDITY regarding player personnel (like a 1st for Rick Mirer)

Jauron…..C.  10 games under 500.  One playoff appearance.

Lovie Smith……B minus.  10 games over 500.  SB appearance.  Overall more talent than any other coach since Ditka/Ryan IMO.  Caught lightning in a bottle when Hester had the greatest season ever by a kick returner.  That team rode Hester to the playoffs.  Grossman?  He was offensive player of the month in September.  He personally light a fire under that team and led them to a 4-0 start in that month.  Teams that start 4-0 are almost assured of making the playoffs.  Later on, perhaps Lovie should have done a better job of coaching.  Instead of robotically saying “Rex is our starting QB” over and over again maybe, at some point the should have threatened Rex with his job.  

In one of Mike Singetary’s first public announcements to his team he listed a few “items.”  One was this gem “WE are not a charity.  We cannot afford to GIVE the game away.”  He didn’t exactly say those words . . . He kind of yelled them.”  Maybe, just maybe Lovie should have pulled Rex aside and said that “if you keep giving the ball away, you’re going to have to start watching Kyle under center.”  That might have gotten Rex’s attention, instead of constantly hearing “Rex is our starting QB.”

Regardless, I see Lovie as a slight improvement over Jauron, who was an improvement over Wannstedt.  That said, I wouldn’t grade any of these coaches with an A or even a B.  It sure wouldn’t hurt if the Bears had a grade A HC walking the sideline.  Instead, the Bears have a definite pattern of hiring “nice guy” defensive coaches as HC and none of them are worthy of walking the sideline once walked by guys like Ditka/Ryan.

In closing watch Mike Singletary.  In the next couple of years, this Bear great, who couldn’t get an assistant’s job with the Bears, will be considered one of the great young HC’s in the game.  In that same time, we will probably see Lovie fired  and replaced with (yawn) another in the line of progression that is Wanny, and Dick and Lovie.

The inability to hire a great HC is the biggest failure of the McCaskey regime.

 

 

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The McCaskeys problem is...

They have zero football brains… and they were making a ton of football decisions for years.

It’s pathetic when your owners have to hire an executive search firm to find a GM.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that.

We know it's the most valuable position on the football team. We've gone through so many scenarios at that position we can write a book, moreso on what not do."

-- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
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by SackMan on Mar 24, 2009 7:54 AM CDT reply actions  

Not pathetic but wise.

They recognize their lack of knowing and sought help.

Passion For The Game, Loyal To The Name, Chicago Bears, I Trust In Thee, Standing Strong Since 1983.

by Haightminow on Mar 24, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

No... it's pretty pathetic, and embarassing.

1. They paid thousands of dollars to that search firm in fees and commissions, for a list of candidates they could’ve gotten out of the SunTimes sports page for 35 cents.

2. They let a man who they knew was leaving (Mark Hatley), run the friggin draft… and then started the search afterwards, finally hiring Angelo in June or July.

Now.. what in the world is wise about that process?

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that.

We know it's the most valuable position on the football team. We've gone through so many scenarios at that position we can write a book, moreso on what not do."

-- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
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by SackMan on Mar 24, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

SackMan

I take it from your response that you somewhat agree with me. If so, thank you. I kind of get tired going back and forth sometimes with people. That’s part of the deal and I really don’t mind. Still, it’s nice to read a response and not have to argue it to death.

Personally, if they REALLY cared about George’s team and it’s legion of fans, they’d hire a proven guy (like a Bill Parcells or Jimmy Johnson) and turn the keys over to them.

Either that or sell the team.

by GeoMak on Mar 24, 2009 8:25 AM CDT reply actions  

Horrible management decisions

Wannstedt was the single most influential person on the Bears decline of the mid-late 90’s. If you look at his drafts, well, you don’t really need to say or write anything else about the guy as a GM or a coach. I didn’t care for Jauron at all, he virtually showed no emotion and looked like a McCaskey puppet on the sidelines. See, I’m agreeing with you Geo.

Instead of robotically saying "Rex is our starting QB" over and over again maybe, at some point the should have threatened Rex with his job.

Did you ever think that Rex was Angelo’s baby? Unless you have a quote or something proving otherwise.

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

by propheteer on Mar 24, 2009 9:43 AM CDT reply actions  

You are losing

me with your comment about Rex being Angelo’s baby. I guess that you are implying that Lovie was pretty much saying that cause he had to. Look, I think a HC should stick up for his players. However, only up to a point. Somewhere down the line you have to say that the QB MUST protect the ball.

Back to your original comment. I don’t care if the blame goes to Lovie or JA or a combination of both. They are both Bear management and I hold “management” responsible there.

by GeoMak on Mar 24, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I meant that JA wanted Rex to play

and Lovie had no choice in the matter. Thus, the boring, very generalized, zombie-like response “Rex is our QB.” In other words, Lovie wasn’t going to undermind his GM.

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

by propheteer on Mar 24, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah I can see that

JA falls in love with his #1 picks. That’s why he wouldn’t allow Warner to compete against Rex and he shipped off Jones over Benson.

End result . . . they’re (Grossman, Benson and Jones) are all gone.

I place far more blame on JA for this kind of stuff. Not so much for individual draft picks.

by GeoMak on Mar 24, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

who's in charge?

i mean are all major decisions made by committee or what? a good organization needs a strong leader with a plan of action. i don’t see it with the mcclaskeys.

by Hatchetm on Mar 24, 2009 10:27 AM CDT reply actions  

Look at it this way Geo...

If Singletary cuts his teeth in SF, and turns out to be a great HC, like you think he will, then maybe in 4 or 5 seasons, we will bring him back to Chicago.

But, if he turns out to not be a good HC… which is also a possibility…. then, we avoided having him come to Chicago and fail.

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by Dane Noble on Mar 24, 2009 10:32 AM CDT reply actions  

I think

he’s pretty pissed off at being rejected by the Bears. And to me, nothing defines the stupidity of Bears management more than that.

By general consensus, i think that most people would agree that if there was one 85 Bear who would have been most likely to succeed as a future HC, it would have been MS. He was basically a coach on the field when he played and, perhaps more than anybody on that team, he’s a born leader.

And you don’t hire him when he’s ready to get into coaching? Pure Stupidity.

by GeoMak on Mar 24, 2009 10:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Come on Geo...

Whilst MS may have been voted “Most Likely to Succeed as a HC” by his 1985 classmates, that doesn’t mean that it will come true. To this point, it is way too early to crown him as anything. And coaches can’t be hired on just that.

Now, I think very much that he is a great leader… and I’m not saying that he won’t be successful as a HC… but I wouldn’t knock the Bears for not hiring him as a coach before he proves he can coach. Just because he was a part of that 1985 team, he shouldn’t be given free passes 25 years later.

what they you use lame AOL speak

by Dane Noble on Mar 24, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

GeauxBears

Maybe you misunderstood. His being the most qualified (to me) is just an opinion. Not a formal vote or anything.

Maybe again you misunderstood. I’m not saying that he should have replaced Jauron in 2002. They couldn’t find an “entry level” position. Everybody has to start somewhere. Nobody said he should be given a free pass. I would think that they knew of his character and qualifications and abilities since he played there.

by GeoMak on Mar 24, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know it's just your opinion,

and I totally respect that. But it just seems like a pretty common theme from you… talking about how MS will be a great HC, and Bears shooting themselves in the foot by letting him get out of Chicago. I just don’t see the correlation you do between being a great football player and becoming a great HC.

I love the fact that you have written these articles, and you do a good job of defending your opinions when people argue against you. I don’t usually agree with you, but totally respect your opinions. :)

what they you use lame AOL speak

by Dane Noble on Mar 24, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with GB...

and I can’t blame the Bears and say they were wrong by not hiring Mike as head coach. I also agree that if Mike is successful in SF than he will be in a better position to be the Bears coach at a later time.

Mike is a Bear, always has been, always will be. But in the meantime, we currently have a very good coach who may be around for a while.

And Geo, when you say that it is just your opinion, that is very funny. Your opinions are facts, in your mind. Anyone who has ever tried to debate with you should know this. Your always putting everything on the McCaskeys. Have you ever written a post where you don’t talk sh1t about the McCaskeys? It’s like a broken freaking record.

And just like you said picking draft picks is a crap shoot, so is picking a coach. And we finally got one who is pretty good and you think he is trash be cause he is not Lombardi.

Passion For The Game, Loyal To The Name, Chicago Bears, I Trust In Thee, Standing Strong Since 1983.

by Haightminow on Mar 24, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I realize that you're on painkillers

But the reply button called and he misses you.

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Mar 24, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nah,

The reply button left GeoMak years ago. It said that Geo was so caught up in 1985, that he abandoned all other aspects of his life… including sadly the reply button. So, the button has since moved on… and started a new life in 2009. It is actively dating a ton of other members… and typically being treated very well by everyone.

what they you use lame AOL speak

by Dane Noble on Mar 24, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Well done sir!

"I am Kyles mom , I support him but I don't believe in him"- GeauxBears

by scespy12 on Mar 24, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dude

I always hit the reply button. Sometimes it doesn’t work.

by GeoMak on Mar 24, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't blame it on the computer

The computer always does what the user tells it to :)

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Mar 24, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

When hitting the reply button

I’ve hit the reply button many times to counter another post, but it seems to shuffle down to the bottom (of the thread) everytime instead of being placed directly below the intended post.

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

by propheteer on Mar 24, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

The reply button

is our polyamorous friend.

OH! STEWIE!! GET OUT THE WAY BOY! GET OUT THE WAY!
-Stacey King

by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 24, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

HC is not the problem

Wanny and Dick were awful but it had little to do with the way the temperment they had on the sidelines or with the players. Bill Parcells couldn’t have won with players we put on the field during those years. I am not a big fan of Lovie but he has made a lot of lemonade out of the lemons he has been given. The talent evaluation is atrocious and has kept this team from becoming a consistently competitive team in the NFC which we should be. (a decent qb wouldn’t hurt either)

by Chuckiep on Mar 24, 2009 10:49 AM CDT reply actions  

RE: HC

Know what’s funny. Mike Singletary won 4 out of his last 5 games in SF. He narrowly won two games against playoff teams (AZ. & Miami). He was the first west coast HC to win on the east coast in 2008 (in Buffalo).

This on a team that fired it’s HC midseason. You guys think YOU complain about talent. Try surfing 49er boards sometime. Most fans there think that the Niners only have 3 players who would start on most teams (Patrick Willis, Nate Clements and Frank Gore).

Go up and down that 2006 roster. That team compared very favorably talent wise with most teams. As I stated before Hester was a GODSEND! Really.

by GeoMak on Mar 24, 2009 11:30 AM CDT reply actions  

What NFL team

has a HC on the hot seat, who is now also the defacto DC and who is now going to start cracking the whip a little more to save his job?

If you said the Bears, you’d be correct. If you said Dallas, you’d also be correct.

by GeoMak on Mar 24, 2009 11:51 AM CDT reply actions  

I'd throw Marvin Lewis in that answer pool too.

Even though they have Zimmer now, Lewis has to make a big impact this season to keep his jorb (how he even still has it is beyond my comprehension). And Lewis’ only real expertise is defense.

what they you use lame AOL speak

by Dane Noble on Mar 24, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Marvin Lewis

is another example of how a coordinator gets way too much credit and gets a HC jorb as a result. Lewis was DC for the 2000 Ravens. They were mean. Real mean. He then goes to the Redskins to be DC and they suck. He gets the Bengals HC job and since he’s been there, they have been one of the worst defenses in the league. Same with Brian Billick. This guy is fortunate to be OC for the 98 Vikings who had a tremendous offensive season. He’s labled an offensive genius and becomes HC for the Ravens whose offense was terrible for the most part. Norv Turner, Wade Phillips, etc, etc.

by McRipper on Mar 24, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Billick

I have used that example many times before. You and I think exactly alike. It’s pretty easy to be an offensive genius with Cunningham, Moss, Carter and Smith. He then goes to Baltimore and oversees some of the worst offenses in the game.

by GeoMak on Mar 24, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wrecked as well.

And the only other idea about it not replying would be if you have something wrong with your internet browser.

what they you use lame AOL speak

by Dane Noble on Mar 24, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, I forgot to ask you something tomas

Would Lombardi use the reply button? Maybe that’s where this is stemming from….

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Mar 24, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look

you can make fun of me all you want. If you tell me that any NFL team has had these three guys (Wannstedt, Jauron & Lovie Smith) as HC for the last 20 something years I’d say fire the guy who does the hiring. That’s the best a team can do?

Are you happy with those three guys as HC? Seriously.

by GeoMak on Mar 24, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just out of curiousity

I was wondering what teams are happy with there past three coaches. I think under most circumstances teams that are happy with their current and recent former coaches don’t have 3 of them. They have one, unless he retires which does happen obviously. But seriously, Denver and Tennessee are probably the only teams who had one coach over that time frame. Now I’m not giving the McCaskey’s a pass by any means, but you have to admit, the coaching carousel is a bit of a crap shoot. They may hold on to coaches longer than most teams but some would consider that a good thing. Wannstedt was a disaster, Jauron was mediocre, but I still think Lovie has a chance to be a great coach.

by Hurricanes becoming Bears on Mar 24, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

I am not happy with those 3 coaches. But I am not happy with them because they are either poor talent evaluators or poor tacticians, or both. Lovie seems stubborn and does not adjust his game plan based on what is working and what isn’t.

Nothing of what I like or don’t like about these guys has to do with how much they yell or are described as “fiery”.

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Mar 24, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

And to build on that...

It would be impossible to know how much of Jerry Angelo’s decisions are made due to what his bosses want… and how much of Lovie’s decisions are made based on what his bosses want.

In a perfect world, you would hope that the GM would have free reign to manage as he sees fit, and that the head coach would have free reign to coach as he sses fit… but like any business, I would imagine that they are somewhat constrained by what their bosses want. (perfect example: Lovie’s comments on our QB situation, followed by Jerry’s)

what they you use lame AOL speak

by Dane Noble on Mar 24, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree on Lovie not changing last season. Previous years yes, but last season know.

Last season all the coaches changed a lot. We cut players, demoted players, benched guys with big contracts, hardly played the cover 2 due to lots of blitzing, had several games where we played much better in the second half (adjustments). If you made that comment a year ago, I would have agreed. Last season our coaches made tons of adjustments and weren’t stubborn at all. They were creative and willing to try new things.

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Mar 25, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

BTW:

I hit reply and used the box right below your post at 11:06 for my post titled “Look.”. Not the bottom one. When I previewed it, it showed up right below your 11:06 post.

When I hit the post button, however, it dropped it straight to the bottom. I clearly watched it all unfold that way.

If there is something wrong computer wise, let me know. Otherwise, I don’t know what else to do.

by GeoMak on Mar 24, 2009 1:37 PM CDT reply actions  

You may try either updating your browser,

or using another browser altogether. There are glitches sometimes that happen, but not that often. But, if you are stuck with what you have, it does make it a bit easier when you do the “Re:” in the subject.

what they you use lame AOL speak

by Dane Noble on Mar 24, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

You did it right that time.

It’s indented below my post, so you can tell it’s a reply to my post. It went to the bottom because several other people replied to my post.

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Mar 24, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

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