Chicago Bears Sign Kevin Shaffer
According to PFT, the Bears just announced the signing of former Cleveland Browns RT Kevin Shaffer. We have a need at RT, and haven't made any significant moves in free agency thus far... how do you feel about this move?
Helmet tip: luckie815
Update 2:11pm, PST: Daily Herald and Chicago Bears official site also announced the move.
Update #2: 3:09pm, PST: The Trib has the terms of the deal... (HT: patagonia)
Shaffer receives $2 million guaranteed in the first year of the contract. The contract could be worth up to $8 million. He is due to make $2.75 million for the 2009 season.
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I think it's a good move...
because it gives us some depth, but I still think we need to draft a RT in the 1st round. I mentioned this on another post but this guy got replaced by an older John St. Clair, who while decent was by no stretch of the word good.
Still take an RT
I was for Britton in the first before this, but I’m for taking the position in second round now. Someone like Loadholt, who could provide depth while developing or could step in if Shaffer doesn’t pan out.
I like Loadholt...
because he is a former Sooner, but I have a gut feeling that he will end up being moved to guard. He is a great run-blocker, has good size, but suffers in pass-protection, that sounds like a guard to me. Now the question is if in the 2nd round both Loadholt and Robinson are available, who do we sign if we are looking for a guard.?
I'm annoyed by this signing...
1. We basically swapped trash with Cleveland
2. If they were willing to spend this money on Shaffer, then why were they not even in discussions with Khalif Barnes, who’s 3 years younger and only signed a 1 year deal with Oakland?
This is another junk move. And, it’s going to prevent us from actually improving the talent at RT with a top draft pick.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that.
We know it's the most valuable position on the football team. We've gone through so many scenarios at that position we can write a book, moreso on what not do."
-- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
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You should switch teams.
SackManThePackFan. Sounds good to me.
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I think I'll change my name to:
SuckMy______
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that.
We know it's the most valuable position on the football team. We've gone through so many scenarios at that position we can write a book, moreso on what not do."
-- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
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Serious?
SuckMyClam? That’s funny.
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Both you guys...
Seriously close to stuff your not supposed to say.
"I am Kyles mom , I support him but I don't believe in him"- GeauxBears
Close.
I’m finding that there is a science to this.
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I'm pretty sure at some
point will be our subject matter expert on what is allowed and what isn’t.
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I agree.
You know how many words I considered and eliminated as candidates before I found a suitable substitution? I’m sure you can imagine.
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by Haightminow on Mar 26, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Draft a Tackle
but not necessarily in the first round. Depends who’s still available because there might be better value in the second and third rounds.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
Good pick up...
I think there are some better right tackles on the market, but I think the signing is a good thing. He’s a solid veteran and has great size at 6’5 315. I feel way more comfortable with him than Omiyale.
One thing to point out with this signing of Omiyale and Shaffer, I think we can pretty much whipe out drafting a OT with the 18th pick. I’m calling we trade down for more picks in the second and third round.
BEAR DOWN!
Fine with me.
He has some decent experience and is durable, younger than St. Clair and probably cheap.
Any word on the details of the contract?
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Not yet.
But as soon as we hear, we’ll update. In the mean time, if anyone can find out, leave the details here and we’ll post.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
the tribune says
Shaffer receives $2 million guaranteed in the first year of the contract. The contract could be worth up to $8 million. He is due to make $2.75 million for the 2009 season.
I don't know much about him
but to me it makes it less likely we’ll take an OT in round 1 or 2. That need will more likely be pushed to next year after they see what they have in Williams, Omiyale and Shaffer.
DEJESUS!!!
I'm not so sure.
I’m thinking we still take an o-line man if not in the first than the second. But never the less, we are all of a sudden looking pretty good considering we have options with two third round picks now. Things are definitely looking up.
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This seems like an 'out' for Angelo
to not go OT first round, perhaps not even second round. It gives him some flexibility because he can say that he at least addressed the position, just not with a quality player. But he still did “something.” I would like to think that this is just a depth move as I agree with others on here that this is clearly crap in and crap out (as far as letting St. Clair sign in Cleveland). If the plan is to move Omiyale to guard then JA has to go tackle on Day 1.
Of note
if the Bears did surprise us and sign Holt, it would be impossible to predict who they’d take in the first 2 rounds.
They will have effectively put bandaids on all our starting position needs with Bullocks, Omiyale, Shaffer, and then Holt, but not really solved anything long term. It would mean they could justify taking almost any position in those 2 rounds except for maybe TE, DT and LB.
DEJESUS!!!
I would'nt be shocked
if they took a linebacker in the first two rounds. considering how extremely talented this years LB class is.
IM A BEARS FAN HAVE BEEN SINCE I WAS OLD ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND THE GAME THEY GOT A GOOD H-COACH SOME GOOD TALENT BUT THEY ARE RUNNIN OUT OF TIME THEY NEED TO SPEND SOME DOE AND FAST ED AND THE CREW NEED TO WISE UP AND OPEN THAT WALLET OR ITS GONNA BE ANOTHER 8 OR NINE WIN GAME SEASON JUST ENOUGH TOO KEEP US OUT OF THE TOP TEN IN THE DRAFT AND ANOTHER LOSIN SEASON WITHOUT THE PLAYOFFS
-BILLD34
by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 25, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Now Lovie can
justify taking Michael Johnson in the 1st.
I glanced and thought you posted Michael Jordan.
We would probably try to convert him to WR. He may be old and slow, but he’s smart and athletic.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
Great pickup
Not only does it fill a need, but it allows JA and Lovie to pick the best player available at #18 if a trade down is not an option. I wouldn’t mind seeing a WR, OT, CB, or DE at that spot now. Would anyone be surprised if JA picked Vontae Davis if he fell to them?
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
No.
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I wouldn't be surprised...
just because it would be a garbage pick with more pressnig needs at WR and OL. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if we made a bone-headed pick in the 1st round like Davis.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
Football Outsider's Adjusted Line Yards
Last year, Cleveland had very good ranks in running around the right end (6th) and running between the right guard and the right tackle (7th). However, they were below average in running both of those types of plays.
So, at least in the run game, it seems like this guy is probably decent. But he got some bonus from opponents not expecting it. He’ll probably be competent in run blocking.
Pretty sweet site
I see the Bears were pretty darn good in pass-protection last year, even with the deficiencies of St. Clair.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
Yah
I was really surprised at how well the line performed with St. Clair, especially after having watched him as a Ram. I thought he would crash and burn on the outside, but he mostly held his own.
You should also read up on the meaning of the stats, if you haven’t, at that site, because they’re not exactly the raw stats that the NFL reports. Still, that ranking mostly corresponds with my memory…I don’t remember Orton running for his life often.
Decent, or deceptive
According to those stats the Browns ran behind the RG/RT only 17% of the time, tied for the second-LEAST. Which means they trusted Shaffer a LOT less than Joe Thomas—which is probably understandable, although they were middle-of-the-pack running behind Thomas, and 6th-best running behind Shaffer.
This “trade” with the Browns smells like a classic case of greener pastures, but I think they’re going to be very disappointed with St. Clair.
That's what I tried to say...
…that they didn’t really try to run behind him. The amount of times that they ran to the left, and the lack of success they had doing that, would make me guess that teams cheated the run defense to that side. But you would have to watch Browns games to know that, and I certainly didn’t do that.
So, based on my mediocre assumptions, it sounds like Shaffer is adequate at the run—not so good that he makes it a strength, but probably not a liability either.
As I mentioned w/ the Earl and Bullocks signings (not on here)...
…it allows the Bears to draft w/ as much, or more, emphasis on “best player available” than on need. If Smith and Oher are gone, would they “reach” for a tackle* if they didn’t have this guy?
The Bears have multiple holes. Maybe they know this. If they can at least add pieces that will at least add depth and/or mere competency, it will allow them flexibility in the draft. They still need a better Tackle. They still need better safeties. But at least this way, they can grab for value and not just need.
At least, that’s how I think of it.
*Of course, you may have a differing opinion on whether there are others that would be a reach here.
Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!
all i know is that i just looked up his rating in madden and hes an 89 overall
thats good enough for me
There was an incident a few years ago. The Bulls were killing the Knicks, scrubs were playing out the clock, and the fans were screaming at them to score 100 points for free Big Macs. They took a ton of shots, Knicks took offense and they tried to fight some Bulls players.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 19, 2009 5:25 PM EST
LOL
I looked at that up a few weeks ago myself just for fun
"I'm thinking about getting metal legs. It's a risky operation, but it'll be worth it."
How else are we supposed to gauge an offensive lineman
There was an incident a few years ago. The Bulls were killing the Knicks, scrubs were playing out the clock, and the fans were screaming at them to score 100 points for free Big Macs. They took a ton of shots, Knicks took offense and they tried to fight some Bulls players.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 19, 2009 5:25 PM EST
ESPN insider has him rated as a 66.
In so many words, they said he’s a good run blocker but can get burned by speed rushers. That’s why the Browns moved him to RT after they drafted Thomas.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
The ESPN ratings are all low though
There was an incident a few years ago. The Bulls were killing the Knicks, scrubs were playing out the clock, and the fans were screaming at them to score 100 points for free Big Macs. They took a ton of shots, Knicks took offense and they tried to fight some Bulls players.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 19, 2009 5:25 PM EST
Although 66 is not bad compared to the other tackles...it's middle of the road.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
Metcalf
ESPN Insider has Terrence Metcalf listed as a 68 for OT. I dont even know how to interpret that.
by Hurricanes becoming Bears on Mar 25, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Take it with a grain of salt
It seems like with ESPN they only care about the top guys/performers/teams, and blatantly skip the rest without proper evaluation and/or coverage.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
They only care...
about teams that have “drama,” as evidenced by the Bills getting coverage now that they signed TO. All they do on ESPN is talk about TO, and say who much he destroys teams. They should rename NFL Live the “I Hate TO Show.”
And College Football Live the “I Love Tim Tebow Show.” Concrete Cyanide.
I think with this signing
It gives us WAY more flexibility in the draft, which is what JA loves. Sure we could still go OT in the first, but now it isn’t a must as it was three hours ago. This likely means we trade down, unless Maclin is available at 18. Maybe this opens up the door for a Boldin trade?
"I'm thinking about getting metal legs. It's a risky operation, but it'll be worth it."
I'd stay away from Maclin
Seems like a copy of Hester, but what do I know.
There was an incident a few years ago. The Bulls were killing the Knicks, scrubs were playing out the clock, and the fans were screaming at them to score 100 points for free Big Macs. They took a ton of shots, Knicks took offense and they tried to fight some Bulls players.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 19, 2009 5:25 PM EST
Why would that be a bad thing.
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Maclin is much more polished
I think Jbasic you’re thinking of Harvin.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
I was thinking about Maclin but you're right in that Harvin is similar to Hester
in that neither really player one position in college.
There was an incident a few years ago. The Bulls were killing the Knicks, scrubs were playing out the clock, and the fans were screaming at them to score 100 points for free Big Macs. They took a ton of shots, Knicks took offense and they tried to fight some Bulls players.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 19, 2009 5:25 PM EST
Eh
Maclin is 100% receiver. He’s not learning the position, he’s not a CB being converted to a WR, and he’s a burner. I think he’s just as much a possession receiver as he is a deep threat.
"I'm thinking about getting metal legs. It's a risky operation, but it'll be worth it."
I would argue that he is more of a possesion receiver...
while I didn’t watch Mizzou that much the times I did he seemed to get most of his yards on short passes taken for long gains. So I think he would be somewhat like a Boldin, except relying more on speed than strength, and get good YAC. But I really only watched two games, and in both those games Chase Daniels was under a lot of pressure, and Maclin might not have had time to get deep.
Why is draft flexibility a good thing here?
We should be getting the best RT we can… instead of settling for mediocre players like Shaffer.
I hope we’re still drafting a RT in the 1st two rounds, cause Shaffer sucks.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that.
We know it's the most valuable position on the football team. We've gone through so many scenarios at that position we can write a book, moreso on what not do."
-- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
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No doubt about it
I think the onus in the first round shifts to WR now, but certainly RT will be addressed in the 2nd or 3rd rounds.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
Draft flexibility
Is always a good thing. Yes OT is still a need but after this signing WR becomes the top priority.
"I'm thinking about getting metal legs. It's a risky operation, but it'll be worth it."
If we signed a top notch RT...
then I’d say we’d have draft flexibility.
But, to me… as it currently stands with this signing, we still need a big improvement at RT. They better not fool themselves into thinking Shaffer is the solution. He’s junk.
He should be the “veteran insurance plan” and compete with a top draft pick to start.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that.
We know it's the most valuable position on the football team. We've gone through so many scenarios at that position we can write a book, moreso on what not do."
-- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
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Another way to look at it
So you don’t like the signing but if we go out and draft an OT in the first two rounds, then an area of extreme need turned into a position with lots of young talent and a serviceable experienced replacement. And it does create draft flexibility. Not in the sense that we don’t need a right tackle but now we don’t have to reach to get a first year starter. The trend in the mocks (who cars I know) have us taking Britton at 18 even though most rankings say it’s a reach. But with out Shaffer we almost have to to find a starter. Now we don’t necessarily need a draftee to start week one. We can look to develop second or even third rounder. I honestly think it’s pretty similar to keeping St. Clair (yes that would have been the smarter move), and saving a few bucks on the cap. I think it’s a smart move under the circumstances and I do pose one question for you. Besides the tackles that stayed with their previous teams, because I doubt we could have coaxed any of them away, who would you have preferred?
by Hurricanes becoming Bears on Mar 25, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Well... I would have preferred Khalif Barnes
Who’s only 26 and has already started 57 games in the NFL, compared to St. Clair’s 57, at age 32.
But, the Bears didn’t show any interest in Barnes… even though he only signed a 1 year deal with Oakland.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that.
We know it's the most valuable position on the football team. We've gone through so many scenarios at that position we can write a book, moreso on what not do."
-- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
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edit: 55 games for Barnes.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that.
We know it's the most valuable position on the football team. We've gone through so many scenarios at that position we can write a book, moreso on what not do."
-- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
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86 starts and 100 games for Shaffer
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
Yeah... but the age difference was my main sticking point.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that.
We know it's the most valuable position on the football team. We've gone through so many scenarios at that position we can write a book, moreso on what not do."
-- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
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I'd rather have the experience
since the Bears are revamping their line. With Williams, Omiyale, Beekman, and a future RT it’s going to be very young and inexperienced.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
Barnes is a 5 year veteran
with 55 starts, and he’s only 26. That’s plenty of experience. And he’s in the prime of his career, as opposed the Shaffer, who’s about to be 30.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that.
We know it's the most valuable position on the football team. We've gone through so many scenarios at that position we can write a book, moreso on what not do."
-- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
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30 in one year
He just turned 29, and unlike Barnes, didn’t lose his job last year.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
Barnes started...
all 16 games last year. I don’t know where this mis-information is being spreaded.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that.
We know it's the most valuable position on the football team. We've gone through so many scenarios at that position we can write a book, moreso on what not do."
-- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
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I read somewhere he was pulled
Well I guess he must have a serious personality disorder then, cause there’s no explanation why he wasn’t coveted by more teams. Isn’t he strictly a LT as well? Obviously, the Bears don’t need one.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
He's been starting at LT his whole career...
But that doesn’t mean he can’t play RT. he could benefit from the switch, as his pass protection has regressed.
Shaffer was playing LT as well, before getting moved over. Ditto for Tait… and St. Clair.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that.
We know it's the most valuable position on the football team. We've gone through so many scenarios at that position we can write a book, moreso on what not do."
-- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
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I like it
It does open up the best available option, plus we don’t have to reach for maybe Britton to get somebody who could start next year. now we can take a guy in the third like Tupou from Oregon. I like this guy he is a mauler but doesn’t have a lot of high quality experience so he can sit for a year or two. I like the signing, I think hes the best of whats left, but maybe wish we got in the game earlier. Barnes would have been nice. One thought though, the Browns did release this guy as a cap casualty and turned around and signed St. Clair to the 3 year 9 million so I think the contract is going to decide the effectiveness of this signing.
by Hurricanes becoming Bears on Mar 25, 2009 5:05 PM CDT reply actions
Every place I checked
he was rated a lot higher than St.Clair. This is a positive!
How did you not choose this picture?

There was an incident a few years ago. The Bulls were killing the Knicks, scrubs were playing out the clock, and the fans were screaming at them to score 100 points for free Big Macs. They took a ton of shots, Knicks took offense and they tried to fight some Bulls players.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 19, 2009 5:25 PM EST
Lmao...
Can you imagine him reading to little kids?
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
He reads to them
and then he eats them.
There was an incident a few years ago. The Bulls were killing the Knicks, scrubs were playing out the clock, and the fans were screaming at them to score 100 points for free Big Macs. They took a ton of shots, Knicks took offense and they tried to fight some Bulls players.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 19, 2009 5:25 PM EST
It looks like he's auditioning
for a made for TV movie about Mick Foley. “After The Mat”
IM A BEARS FAN HAVE BEEN SINCE I WAS OLD ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND THE GAME THEY GOT A GOOD H-COACH SOME GOOD TALENT BUT THEY ARE RUNNIN OUT OF TIME THEY NEED TO SPEND SOME DOE AND FAST ED AND THE CREW NEED TO WISE UP AND OPEN THAT WALLET OR ITS GONNA BE ANOTHER 8 OR NINE WIN GAME SEASON JUST ENOUGH TOO KEEP US OUT OF THE TOP TEN IN THE DRAFT AND ANOTHER LOSIN SEASON WITHOUT THE PLAYOFFS
-BILLD34
by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 25, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude
I don’t know how you made that connection, but it was awesome.
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Hahaha thank you
always thought SBN should have a wrestling blog.
IM A BEARS FAN HAVE BEEN SINCE I WAS OLD ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND THE GAME THEY GOT A GOOD H-COACH SOME GOOD TALENT BUT THEY ARE RUNNIN OUT OF TIME THEY NEED TO SPEND SOME DOE AND FAST ED AND THE CREW NEED TO WISE UP AND OPEN THAT WALLET OR ITS GONNA BE ANOTHER 8 OR NINE WIN GAME SEASON JUST ENOUGH TOO KEEP US OUT OF THE TOP TEN IN THE DRAFT AND ANOTHER LOSIN SEASON WITHOUT THE PLAYOFFS
-BILLD34
by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 26, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Seems like a really good value
Well he had signed a few years back for $36 million over 7 years and his cap number was going to be over $6 million this year, which is why he was cut. Add his durability to it and it seems like he ought to be an excellent value. And any time you can add the shaved head oversized goatee to your offensive line, you’re all the better for it.
We're now becoming the Chicago Neckbeards
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that.
We know it's the most valuable position on the football team. We've gone through so many scenarios at that position we can write a book, moreso on what not do."
-- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
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I'm going to vote no
I think its obvious he has the ability to grow much more than a playof hockey neckbeard. We’re talking a serious Harley-riding, metal-shreading thick goatee here.
Probably some food in there from meals along time ago.
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A rundown on this guy..
According to cbssports.com:
OT Kevin Shaffer had his contract terminated by Cleveland. Shaffer had a rough season at right tackle. Shaffer was one of Phil Savage’s first free agent signings, but he struggled at left tackle in 2006. He had a decent season in 2007 when he moved to the right following the drafting of Joe Thomas, but struggled in 2008. The lowlight: Robert Mathis’ bull rush that knocked Shaffer over and into the knee of QB Derek Anderson. At 245 pounds, Mathis is a speed rusher, but he surprised Shaffer with his rush. Shaffer also was steamrolled on a key play against Baltimore. That play was a screen pass, but because Shaffer did not hold his ground, the timing was off. The pass was intercepted and returned for a touchdown. 31/2/2009
Sounds like we have a guy who has a had an up-and-down career. Yay…
Tha Gov
Where are the highlights?
Just two bad plays is not a bad thing coming from a tackle. From what I’m hearing, he should be a slight upgrade from St. Clair.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
Will zone blocking help?
Schaffer was successful in Atlanta (enough to get a fat Browns contract anyway) in a zone blocking scheme. I don’t think the Browns ran a zone scheme, but the Bears do.
Otherwise, Profootballfocus ranks Schaffer as consistently bad throughout the season. St Clair started abysmal and improved over time.
In any case, here’s hoping Schaffer ends up replacing Metcalf instead of St Clair…because the Bears draft somebody better.
UUuuHH
I guess I’m glad that we signed a RT, we needed to. Hopefully it opens up our choices in the draft.
Still seems like JA mismanaged the situation with St. Claire. On one side, Shaffer is younger and that’s always good. On the other side he doesn’t seem like he is statistically any better, not as versatile, and doesn’t know our offense.
If the Bears had offered St. Claire a contract extension towards the end of last season. I’m thinking they could have gotten him for, lets just call it splitting the difference of what we offered him this year and what Shaffer got. Something around 6mil.
Glad we signed a tackle. I’ll have to drink a lot more tonight before I feel warm and fuzzy.
JA
The thing that most people are not talking about is the admirable job JA is doing finding value under a limited budget. I really think the McCaskeys have told him to come in at the minimum. That means he’s playing with almost 30 million less than almost all the other GMs in the league. When you look at it that way, don’t you have to give the man props for filling holes at guard and tackle that have good value? I’m not yet ready to include safety in that assessment. I think we would have been better to keep Mike Brown. But I still think Brown might come back, after the draft or something. I also think that JA will draft safety as soon as he possibly can. 18 is probably too high for a safety this year. But watch, he’ll probably take a safety in the second round.
That is assuming that these guys are made our team better on OL
No one knows what Schaffer and Amiyale will do this season.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
Browns Fan
The guy played decently at LT in 2006, great at RT in 2007, and average/slightly below at RT in 2008. St. Clair was probably the more solid overall guy, but he’s a good run blocker. I have a feeling he’ll do pretty good with you guys, espicially if you can find a good RG.
Josh Cribbs for the Hall of Fame!
by kardiackids2007 on Mar 25, 2009 7:30 PM CDT reply actions
I knew I smelled a dog lurkin' in the den!
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Hey, thanks for coming over kardiac!
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
No problem. Your blog here seems very active. I appreciate you stopping over at DawgsbyNature too with Browns/Bears stuff.
You guys are a lot better then the Raven fans we have to deal with; they spam the fanposts like carzy, have horrible grammar, make personal attacks. And you should look at there site! Only like 10 people ever post. IMO, the content of there site just isn’t the same as what your guys site and DawgsbyNature offer. http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/
Well, I didn’t come here to bash them though. I do have one suggestion. On DawgsbyNature, on the left side of the page a little ways down is a rotoworld little news blurb section that auto-updates. I think it’s a really cool way to get some insider information fast (it’s not always true, but still kinda cool).
Good luck to you guys this season (except when you play us ;)).
Josh Cribbs for the Hall of Fame!
by kardiackids2007 on Mar 25, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
The Ravens fans sounds like some of the turds
from our division rivals that like to troll. So I know what you mean. As far as the feeds go, I’ll pass that idea on to the big man in charge over here. He and I both have something like that for our emails, but adding it to the site might be something to look at.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
You guys did notice the catch in his statement...
about needing to find a good RG, now we basically need to really hope that Robinson falls to our pick in the 2nd round and pick him up.
IMO, he really ups his play with a good RG. That hasn’t been proven through too many games, but I beleive my hunch is correct.
Josh Cribbs for the Hall of Fame!
by kardiackids2007 on Mar 25, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
wait
didn’t he play next to Hadnot last season? I thought he was a pretty good G.
I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad
Hadnot didn’t do so well. I think most Browns fans totally forgot about him. Hadnot is very slow, and is not as solid as Ryan Tucker (Our good RG) was in pass protection.
Josh Cribbs for the Hall of Fame!
by kardiackids2007 on Mar 26, 2009 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Look at it this way
We had no one on our roster with significant time at any tackle position. We had NO NFL EXPERIENCE at tackle other than Omiyale’s brief stints. No at least we have your standard “veteran experience” at the tackle position. If nothing else he can mentor Williams and who ever we bring in with the draft.
We needed...
a warm body to fill that postion, and we got one. CHEAPER than JSC. So to me, it’s a WIN. We still need to take a RT in the draft though. I have afeeling Angelo and Phillips has something brewing for the draft thought. Maybe a trade down, get some more picks, take a RT and a G, and a WR in rd 2 and 3.
We need more GOOD bodies with some experience, he has some. So we swapped RT’s with Cleveland. We got the better deal, and CHEAPER as usual/ The economy is tough, so to me, this is a win.
Great move!
Gives the Bears the option of taking a player they love rather than just need at 18. I also think there is a good chance of Urbick from Wisconsin getting drafted in the 2nd. They could also package the 18 for Cutler( dreaming again). Thanks JA.
by Hubstorm22Xxx23 on Mar 25, 2009 8:56 PM CDT reply actions
My First Post-And I believe...
with this move we fill a need with experience and gives us flexibility in the draft. Now I know we’re taken a guy that was cut and replaced with a guy that was basically a backup his whole career. But lets keep in mind Cleveland was a mess last year as a whole, and as we saw it affected even their best players. With a change of scenery and actually saying that we wants to be a Bear I can bet you their will be a fire under his bum and Shaffer will play to his potential which made him a starter in the NFL. As for the draft now we can go WR such as DHB ,Hicks or even Britt who sounds like is creeping up or even QB if Freeman or Sanchez is still there ooorrr we go OL and take Britton -like I said lots of flexibility .
I like Urbick
any OL coming out of Wis. U recently has been solid I was thinking ( before Shaffer ) we go Britton in the 1st Roboskie? from Ohio St Urbick in the 3rd Byrd out of Ore. with our second 3rd and Rhett Bomhar in the 4th
Drafting a tackle
Since St. Clair signed with Cleveland, all anyone talks about is what the Bears will do at right tackle as if we’re set at the left tackle position. Let’s not forget that Chris Williams is completely untested at this level. I say they should still go with a tackle with the 18th pick, assuming a good one is still available, because we really don’t know what we have at either tackle spot. Shaffer is, at least, a solid starter with pro experience. I remember Jim Finks, who built the ‘85 Bear team, always said you should build your team through your lines on both sides of the ball. Good line play will make the rest of your players better, while bad line play will cause failure no matter who the QB, RB, WR, Linebacker, DB’s are.
I'm with you 100%. It is totally true!
I don’t know one LB on the Giants.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
draft
I like this move only because it shows, when JA got pantsed with St Clair leaving he is willing to find a guy who has some starts at the NFL level. If we were to just wait for the draft to take a tackle, we would have no starting tackle with a NFL start. I like going WR with the 1st pick or QB if Sanchez or maybe Freeman are still there. I really like Maclin if he is still there at 18. I did go to MU, so i am kind of partial. I have also seen many of his games on TV and in person. On the field he is usually the fastest guy out there and more importantly he has very good hands and holds on to the ball even when he get lit up going through the middle. I would rather have a “hands” guy than a “speed” guy. I also like Harvin and Nicks. I would like to stay away from DHB, due to too many drops. How many Bears WR’s in the past had drop problems? Way too many.
by Bears-Bullsfan on Mar 25, 2009 10:49 PM CDT reply actions
77 good pick!
this is a plus for the offensive line whichever way you look at it. Losing St. Clair is a shame, he played solid at left tackle, protecting Orton’s blind side. There is no doubt in that. Chris Williams will have to really step in and have an immediate impact, and already his draft class of offensive line men have faired very well so hopefully that is saying that the reading on offensive line prospects wasn’t off. But having # 77 is definitely a plus for our run game, and Matt Forte is developing very quickly. Williams should have an immediate impact, and his athleticism is stronger than St. Clair’s for sure. If Williams is healthy and protects the blind side, this could be the best upgrade the offensive line has seen since 05-06.
The Ghost of Ron Rivera haunts the Windy City...
by Oso Monstar of Midway on Mar 25, 2009 10:54 PM CDT reply actions
Now we gotta upgrade the defensive line, the engine of our defense. A good tune up should help. Maybe a number one draft pick.
a blind side terrorist defense end or hybrid linebacker.
The Ghost of Ron Rivera haunts the Windy City...
by Oso Monstar of Midway on Mar 25, 2009 11:34 PM CDT reply actions
we need more muscle and speed to hunt down the quarterback from the blind side, and even though Alex Brown is good, it would be greater to have a real demon coming at you, and Brown ain't no demon
The Ghost of Ron Rivera haunts the Windy City...
by Oso Monstar of Midway on Mar 25, 2009 11:39 PM CDT reply actions
Any flashy demon defensive ends out there to draft??
The Ghost of Ron Rivera haunts the Windy City...
by Oso Monstar of Midway on Mar 25, 2009 11:46 PM CDT reply actions
Micael Johnson from GT
"I'm thinking about getting metal legs. It's a risky operation, but it'll be worth it."
One other thing
Count me among those who STILL hope the 18th pick gets used on an RT, but I’m glad to see we added another body to the mix. After losing St. Clair I figured Orton’s life depended on us drafting a tackle in the first round.
And here’s the other thing: Before this signing, if you trade Orton and the 18 for Cutler (not saying it’s likely, just possible), we would have had a franchise QB behind a seriously deficient O-line. Which would have made me very, very nervous. Adding another veteran to the mix shouldn’t change our draft plans (IMHO), but it might give us a bit more trade juice.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
progress
Shaffer is good. Better than st. clair. At least now we have decent starters at every position on the OLine. #18 will not be used on an offensive lineman. The 2 units where the level of talent is still below acceptable levels are wide receiver and safety/secondary. Team needs : WR, Safety(ies), SLB, OLine depth.
This move leads me to believe we go BEST AVAILABLE in the draft… the 2 best wrs will be off the board at 18 (Crab and Maclin and i still think we should trade up for crab) and the safeties in the class are weak and not worthy of #18. I’d be thrilled with Harvin, but would also like the Bears to draft Mualalalalalalalaga or Davis… any of the USC LBs would start over nic roach at SLB making the D fearsome. The hair, school, and heritage make me wanna play Mualaaalaaaga at Safety (kind of a reverse of what we did with #54 out of New Mexico) but whatever.
I’d like Davis because the bears passing defense has always been atrocious… Vasher and Tillman are ok, but the unit will get drastically better by adding a starter (Davis) instead of hoping a scrub steps up if/when called upon (Bearsstylie). with the line now solidified, at #18 taking the best defensive player avail (not DLine) could be huge even tho we still have holes.
Drafting another DE in the first makes no sense to me as at both DE and DT the depth chart is strong with 3 playersat each position who can play at high levels.
depends on who goes where but ss of now I predict/hope for Harvin at #18 and Loadholt at #49.
Mualaga, Loadholt, then Robiskie would be awesome tho




























