NFL Network: State of the Bears

by gillrowdy on Mar 27, 2009 2:19 AM CDT Comment 13 comments

I wanted to give a heads up so you all can view it if possible; NFL Network has announced they will be previewing how the Bears can get back to the SuperBowl. Look for the program on Friday 3/27, I assume on the program "NFL Total Access". Thats all I was able to catch, but I hope to recap for all of you, once the program has aired. I may not be able to get to it until later though, so anyone feel free to start the discussion.

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7pm eastern nfl network

by ZEPH*ROC on Mar 27, 2009 2:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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hopefully this can generate more comment for you gillrowdy. this and a rec

Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!

by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 27, 2009 10:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

To Recap the program

This was a bit of false advertising by NFL Network, I must say. Not much talk, if any about how or when the Bears could make it back to the SuperBowl. It started off with an interview by Lovie Smith basically saying(you guessed it) “Kyle is our qurterback”. He played well before the injury, he showed great leadership, and he was ready to take the next step. Rod Woodson then commented how he thought the Bears have seen what Orton could do, and it was time to try something else. He suggested bring in Byron Leftwich to compete or trade for Jay Cutler.
Woodson next gave his take on Devin Hester; he thought Hester would be more valuable if he would forego being a WR, and score 5-6 TDs per year as a KR/PR specialist.
Woodson’s take on the defense was basically: better CB play is possible and needed to return the Bears to a good defense.
Finally, analyst Charles Davis thought the Bears should select WR Hakeem Nicks.
Later on they also did a top10 Bears of all time list:
10)Dan Hampton
9)Red Grange
8)Bronco Nagurski
7)Mike Singletary
6) Sid Luckman
5)Mike Ditka
4)Gayle Sayers
3)Dick Butkus
2)Walter Payton
1)George “Papa Bear” Halas

by gillrowdy on Mar 27, 2009 11:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Typical media BS

They only talk about QB, and how its been an achilles heal for the Bears. Orton showed he can run an offense effectively; he has to be healthy of course, and get some help from the line and WRs. Keeping Hester as only a special teamer is a huge error in judgement and talent evaluation. He’s clearly shown to be at least a #2 WR in the NFL. He did happen to score 3 TDs last year with terrible play from the offensive line, and other wideouts. He’ll continue to grow and will out-produce Woodson’s 5-6 TDs this year on offense alone.

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

by propheteer on Mar 29, 2009 1:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

no way in hell

He’s clearly shown to be at least a #2 WR in the

i don’t know how anyone can say this.

by mike b on Mar 30, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Based on his production

on a poor, poor passing team he certainly is one.

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

by propheteer on Mar 30, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

being a legit #2 in the NFL > than and not equal to what hester has SHOWN

All Hester has shown is that he can produce 51 catches 665 yards and 3 yards on the Bears.

I think he can and will get better, even hope he will be a #1, but all he has shown is 51 catches 665 yards and 3 yards on the Bears. in fact those stats show that not only would he not be the 2nd wr on some teams, but he wouldn’t even be the 3rd on others.

fine line between a hope/dream and reality.

by No It All on Mar 30, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Considering that Hester is relatively new to the position,

and the fact that the Bears had the OL and the QB that we did last season, I think Hester did well. Sure, his numbers and route-running could improve, but he is still raw. I certainly think he could be a good #2 WR for us… and depending on his development, could eventually turn into a #1. (crossing fingers)

I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)

Dude, for serious? 1986 was 23 years ago.
Can we drop it?
-halfblindcubbiegirl

by Dane Noble on Mar 30, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

exactly

he was the number one option on a horrible receiving team, that doesn’t make him a proven number 2.

by mike b on Mar 30, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Numbers don't tell the entire story

He was the only Bears receiver that was fairly consistent, and showed he could beat the double-team deep. Too bad the O-line couldn’t give Orton time, and when they did he over or under threw him.

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

by propheteer on Mar 30, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

rookie running back matt forte was more consistent

Hester was less consistent as a receiver than our running back was as a receiver… so clearly you’re just making stuff up as you go along

by No It All on Mar 31, 2009 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Apples to oranges much?

The scary thing is you’re actually serious. It’s not Hester’s fault the line can’t block long enough to finish his routes. Forte led the Bears in receptions purely out of need because Orton had zero time to throw. Do you really believe Turner and Co. prefer this strategy over getting the ball downfield? Again, you change the subject entirely; this debate was about Hester, not Forte catching 2 yd passes. Worst comparison ever!

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

by propheteer on Mar 31, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

don't act like Forte did not lead the team in receptions

to ignore his impact while discussing the passing game simply because he is labeled HB not WR is f*cking retarded. apples and oranges my ass the category we are talking about is dudes catching footballs.

Hester and Forte are on the same team. Forte had more catches. These are statements of fact. These facts don’t change whatever the preferred strategy is or was. Your conjecture as to how the offensive line effected Hester and Orton’s chemistry is cute and all but it does not go anywhere close to proving Hester has “clearly shown to be at least a #2 WR in the NFL”.

by No It All on Mar 31, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs