How the Bears Stack Up in the First 100 Picks of the NFL Draft
by Dane Noble on Mar 31, 2009 1:04 PM CDT
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The first three rounds of the 2009 draft will produce exactly 100 picks, which includes 4 compensatory picks. The Chicago Bears will have 4 of the first 100.
Peter King took a look at teams from last year that had at least 10 wins, and how they are set up in the first 3 rounds... and saw the possibility of good teams in position to get better:
- New England: 6 picks (23, 34, 47, 58, 89, 97)
- New York Giants: 5 picks (29, 45, 60, 91, 100)
And as you know, those happen to be the 2 teams that played in Super Bowl XLII... and they have 11 of the top 100 picks. Scary.
Also mentioned in the article were: Miami (4 picks), Minnesota (3), Atlanta (3), Baltimore (3), Indianapolis (3), Tennessee (3), Pittsburgh (3), and Carolina (3).
Let's take a look at how the Bears will compare to these teams in regards to the first 100 picks...
Chicago has 4 picks in the first 100, picking at 18, 49, 84, and 99. It is looking more and more like we are addressing our OL needs in free agency (how effectively we are addressing it is left up to you), and a lot of you have expressed that our 18th pick might should now be used on a WR, or to trade down and acquire additional picks (WCG thinks Jerry Angelo may be able to trade down and end up with ten 7th round picks).
I really like the fact that we have 4 picks, and we are certainly looking like it may be beneficial to trade down to get more. A few of the wide recievers that the Bears may be interested in will very likely still be available after the 18th pick has passed. The same can be said for a few offensive linemen that we may look at.
There is also the possibility of trading up... not a topic that too many of you are fond of, but still could be considered. If a big playmaker is still on the board between the 10th and the 17th slots, it might not be too far fetched of an idea to move up and make it happen.
With 4 of the top 100 picks in the draft, and a few free agency signings under our belt, it seems like we should have a bit of wiggle-room in how we execute our picks.
But here is what I am wondering... and I know that the readers of WCG have some good insights into this:
1- Which players might be good options if we were to trade down?
2- Which players may fall to the 10th-17th picks that would be worth trading up for?
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I think a WR would be the best bet—Britt, Nicks, DHB etc could all still be there if the Bears traded back, say, 10 spots. If the Bears want to take a WR in the first, and they don’t have an absolute favorite among those, they might as well trade back and pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd round pick. I think they need a plamaking WR-FS-De in that order, and I don’t really think any of those positions are great values at 18. There isn’t, to me, much that separates guys available at 18 from guys available at 30.
As far as trading up, if Crabtree falls out of the top 10, he’d be worth moving up for. Otherwise, the Bears have too many holes to lose a second round pick, and Angelo doens’t trade up in the first round.
DEJESUS!!!
Trading down...
Unless you’re incredibly enamoured with Maclin, and some are, and he happens to fall none of the WR we’d like to have are great picks at 18.
Depending on how far we trade down, and who you like both Britt and Nicks would be good picks in the late first, possibly even DHB who I’m not fond of but some are.
Almost all the “FS” have 2nd round grades, if we want to get some quality OLine, it’s mostly 2nd rounders as well. Pretty much, the majority of our needs while they are many, can be filled by second rounders this year. Also, the upside of second rounders is even if they don’t pan out exactly as planned, they are usually athletic enough to be great special teamers and back ups at their position. However, we do need to hit a good portion of those picks.
If Maclin falls we need to draft
him. After that I’m less sold on the others. I’m ok with the idea of DHB, but I’m not jumping out of my chair. I’d be just as ok with getting a solid linemen.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
So, no trading...
just straight up using our 18th pick?
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
Dude, for serious? 1986 was 23 years ago.
Can we drop it?
-halfblindcubbiegirl
If we are sitting at 18 and there is a guy who is the right value and the right position
take him. I’m tired of always taking quantity over quality. If say Maclin and DHB are off the board and the offensive line is a bit picked over, I’m ok with the trading down, so long as we are getting picks in the 2nd and 3rd we are going to actually use versus continue to trade down.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
I can understand...
the love for Maclin, even if I don’t share it. I don’t think his production level is going to be any higher than some of the later WR, but it’s still very likely to be at least decent production. However, DHB is pure boom or bust to me. I don’t think he has any chance to be average, or acceptable, so it’s boggling my mind that people are so willing to take him before Britt/Nicks or even Robiskie, all of whom will at least be average to good, even if they don’t become the next Moss.
With no safetys with a legitimate first round grade, if the O:Line, and Maclin if you’re a believer, are picked over I think we have to trade down.
I have to admit I don't have a huge love of Maclin
but going on most Mocks having him at 10-12 some even higher if that value falls to 18 at a huge spot of need, you have to bite on that.
I agree about DHB, that was my question. I’ve seen a lot of people asking if he is a workout warrior.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
We're agreed...
That’s pretty much my exact same stance, if Maclin is there I can see how it’d be pretty hard to pass on him barring someone really wanting to trade up to grab him and offering an outstanding package.
However, if he’s not, and one of our targetted O:Line isn’t there either, I think we have to trade down. I don’t think any of the DE are value at the 18 slot either.
The only way I can really summerize my view of this draft is that there is a definite top 8-10, but after that it’s all a relative talent alphabet soup. Pick your poison, pick your need, pick your flavor, but you’re getting the same relative level of talent up until the end of the 2nd for some positions and the end of the third for others.
Maclin will be long gone before the 18th pick
I think the Bears take the best available wide receiver, defensive end or safety at 18. I do not see them trading down.
Definitely Maclin
It won’t make a lick of sense if JA passes on him. If he falls to the Bears, that will mean there will have been a run on OT.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
it seems similar to the Greg Olsen
pick, it was just such an obvious pick it was hard to imagine them not drafting him.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
Huge need+value= Maclin
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
The Bears could have 5 of the top 100 picks... on draft day
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that.
We know it's the most valuable position on the football team. We've gone through so many scenarios at that position we can write a book, moreso on what not do."
-- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
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Are you being cryptic?
Or just making a general point?
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
Dude, for serious? 1986 was 23 years ago.
Can we drop it?
-halfblindcubbiegirl
We trade down all the time
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that.
We know it's the most valuable position on the football team. We've gone through so many scenarios at that position we can write a book, moreso on what not do."
-- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
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Lol.
Okay then.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
Dude, for serious? 1986 was 23 years ago.
Can we drop it?
-halfblindcubbiegirl
If any of these scenerios played out as you all keep mentioning I’d still go after a QB since I am not impressed with Ortons inability to throw the rock downfield which creates opposing defenses to play ’too tight and therefore shutting down our run game .A QB with an adequate long ball and good reads looking off would do wonders for our club since watching Kyle posses tunnel vision and get picked off too many times Id go for a QB of the future type, and to be able to run a decent gain instead of dragging his feet and being a target for the D.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
Dude, for serious? 1986 was 23 years ago.
Can we drop it?
-halfblindcubbiegirl
by Dane Noble on Mar 31, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
We will...
trade down, if anything.
Like I said in a previous post, the only way we will trade UP is if the GUY we want is there, and I don’t think we have enough to get THERE. We will get multiple other picks if we draft down, but if Hakeem Nicks is there at 18, I hope they take him, or DHB.
Now, if we can get a Holt or a Harrison to help mold our young WRs, we’ll be golden.
Keep the #18 to pick up anyone that might slide
specifically Maclin, Oher, Sanchez, and possibly Ayers(ranked anywhere from #5 overall according Mayock, to #37). I think those guys would be great fits for the Bears and have some small chance of sliding. If none of those guys are still available, I wouldn’t mind making a draft-day trade to get one of those 4. A more likely scenario is to trade down and pick up better value with OT Britton or one of the second-tier WRs.
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