Angelo the professor?
by propheteer on Mar 4, 2009 5:20 PM CST
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Move over Greg Maddux, Jerry Angelo's in the house.
In this article from Chicagobears.com, JA gives very long-winded and well-informed answers on why he hasn't made any major moves in free-agency. His responses to Larry Mayer's questions will not be popular amongst us die-hards, but one thing is for sure: he's certainly a very intelligent man and does things with great conviction (at least in his own mind, that is).
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Good jorb on your first fanpost!
Reading this, I think, “Oh, okay… that sounds legit.”
Then I realize I am being brainwashed… and start slowly stepping away from the JA Kool-Ade…
Things will get better as they improve...
Jorb, that's more than one a week : )
Passion For The Game, Loyal To The Name, Chicago Bears, I Trust In Thee, Standing Strong Since 1983.
Well good jorb then.
Passion For The Game, Loyal To The Name, Chicago Bears, I Trust In Thee, Standing Strong Since 1983.
It's clear JA is definitely doing a good JORB
He sure as hell can’t find a job anywhere else.
Plus, this is the first part of a series...
looking forward to more of his thoughts. Propheteer, its now your job to stay on top of when part 2 comes out.
Things will get better as they improve...
No problem
I’ll keep up with my “jorb!”
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
In todays economy...
Any jorb is a good jorb.
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I"m not sure what the hell is going on with Jerry.
Sometimes I feel like he is mocking us by just sitting there and doing nothing while all of the big time players sign contracts with other teams. Why? Because he can? I don’t know. I’m just hoping that he knows what he’s doing and eventually I can breath a sigh of relief after I understand what the f**k is going on.
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Amusing
How much of a priority is upgrading the wide receiver position either in free agency or the draft?
JA: Naturally, we’re going to look at that real hard, in all likelihood in the draft.
Well, that’s refreshing Jerry, and probably the best way to win now.
"URLACHER IS GOD"
you all do realize Larry Mayer
is conducting this interview. If it was Boers and Bernstein or Waddle and Silvy, he’d be screwed.
OH! STEWIE!! GET OUT THE WAY BOY! GET OUT THE WAY!
-Stacey King
That's why he's doing it with Mayer.
Passion For The Game, Loyal To The Name, Chicago Bears, I Trust In Thee, Standing Strong Since 1983.
Hey, in the article,
he asked very pertinant questions. And there will be more, so don’t criticize the interviewer yet!
Things will get better as they improve...
I like Mayer
How sweet it would be to be paid to practically live amongst the Bears.
"URLACHER IS GOD"
Next time you see Mayer...
notice the brown stuff on the end of his nose.
Passion For The Game, Loyal To The Name, Chicago Bears, I Trust In Thee, Standing Strong Since 1983.
+1
OH! STEWIE!! GET OUT THE WAY BOY! GET OUT THE WAY!
-Stacey King
by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 4, 2009 5:48 PM CST up reply actions
He's definitely a Pro-Bear interviewer
but his questions were all pretty darn good, and exactly what we debate on a daily basis.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
Haight minnow.....
Somethime I swear your two different people…
One minute your preaching on a soap box and the next you are harping mayers brown nose.
What is going on?
I like Larry, how could I not?
He is a Chicago Bear representative. But you have to admit that it is very funny the way he kisses Bear Brass Ass. He has to, that’s where he gets his paycheck. I ain’t mad at him, I just call it like I see it.
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It's at least insightful
But honestly, all he did was reiterate everything we already knew. We know we will look at a WR in the draft. But really, JA? You feel good about our core? Davis, Bennett, Hester…who else? Rideau? A bunch of nobodies from the practice squad? Really? Really?
And all JA did was sidestep the questions with “Well good players are too expensive.”
it's like the Three Bears
this players too Expensive, ths players too good, (looks at old ,washed up, unheard of guy) this players just right.
OH! STEWIE!! GET OUT THE WAY BOY! GET OUT THE WAY!
-Stacey King
by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 4, 2009 6:23 PM CST up reply actions
well at least JA said they were looking for a star WR
makes me believe that they may target my boy J-Mac or DHB in the draft
Who would you rather have?
J-Mac or DHB
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that's a tough question
they both are burners
i would probably go with Maclin, seeing as he got 102 receptions last season against some of the toughest defenses in the land, and he is a bit more of a polished product, i’m always a bit wary of players that receive a lot of recognition simply for performing well at the combine (like Vernon Davis a few years back) they way DHB has
but i’m not sure he will still be on the board at 18 let alone if professor jerry would even draft him, he seems to hold something against the talented players
by SamuraiMike50 on Mar 4, 2009 8:03 PM CST up reply actions
Maclin...
He already has played and produced with a weak armed quarterback, Chase Daniel, plus he is very good at generating YAC. It would give them serious speed at WR with Hester, Bennet, and Maclin. But that also the speed thing works with DHB.
Plus, like SamuraiMike50 said he is getting drafted on performance in games, not pure potential.
meh, I miss having
Muhammad, Berrian, Hester, Bradley, and who ever…that wasn’t a bad core there..
#34: You'll be missed!
Bear really miss Berrian
JA would love to get a do-over after letting him walk last year. Why not franchise him? Obviously he was good enough to get the tag and pay him top dollar. He had his best numbers of his career with two bad QBs. Imagine if he was catching passes from another fairly bad QB in Orton? Think about it….
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
Absolutely
BTW propheteer – I had to edit your FP to make it go to the front page since I took out the link. If you have a sentence you want to add, reply here and I’ll take out my rather lethargic first sentence. lol
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
Put in
Move over Greg Maddox!
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
Greg Maddux the pitcher?
His nickname is the Professor because he’s a great student of the game.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
Oh yeah, sorry.
I didn’t realize I misspelled his name.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
Yeah, I know that about Maddux
Just making sure I didn’t know about some obscure pop culture reference :)
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
I knew it looked a bit odd
No problem :-)
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
Jerry Angelo hasn't been active in free agency because the pickings are slim and overpriced
I think it boils down to just that. Lets face it, the available free agents were very limited in terms of quality. And it would have been irresponsible to pay crazy money for TJ Housh.
Last thing the Bears need is to pick up the cast-offs of other organizations. We all saw how well Marty Booker and Brandon Lloyd worked at wide receiver for example.
Bears have a crapload of MAJOR needs. Chance Angelo can address all these needs in the draft with talent that is ready to contribute meaningfully as rookies is slim. Hence why I shall continue to insist that the Bears are in a rebuilding mode but Jerry Angelo just hasn’t cared to admit it publicly.
He's going to add a couple of pieces
There’s too many open roster spots available to fill them all in the draft. FS and WR are the most likely additions in free-agency. St. Clair and Jones may sign as well.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
I understand that
But with an ever increasing salary cap and $34 million under cap why couldn’t you splash and make a front loaded contract with a guy like Housh (much like how the ‘Skins front loaded Haynesworth’s contract, its basically a 4-yr deal) then you could sign him for big money and cut him if need-be in two years without taking a huge cap hit. Is that too hard to do?
by Sam Householder on Mar 4, 2009 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not sure of the cap (hit) ramifications.
Angelo believes in the draft, and it realizes it’s less expensive to acquire players via the draft. They’re younger, cheaper, and hopefully better depending on the learning curve. Free-agency is not always the answer, actually it’s usually not the answer in building a winning team. I don’t always agree with it, but it does make plenty of sense. Most of the successful teams in the NFL are built through the draft, and supplemented with free-agents and trades. With that being said, WR is one position I believe needs to be addressed in free-agency, especially in regards to the Bears. I’m not sure why JA wouldn’t consider overpaying for Coles or Housh since the Bears are in a “win now” mode.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
Agreed
I couldn’t say it better. Don’t get me wrong, you build with the draft and put in the finishing touches in FA. FA can be great to get competition and positions that can be harder for rookies to pick up. Hm what are two of those positions? I don’t know, maybe RT (unless you have a top 5-10 pick you usually don’t find a lot of plug-in right away guys) and WR (One of the harder positions to transition to in the NFL) So why not try to get better with a FA at one of those positions?
by Sam Householder on Mar 4, 2009 11:31 PM CST up reply actions
Many perfect players for the Bears have gone......
……to other teams. Dawkins would have been nice for a year or two, or Jim Leonhard. Houshmandzadeh would have looked good out ther at WR. Hell Bart Scott would have made a nice Sam linebacker opposite Briggs. Stupid @ss Angelo has let player after player go by waiting for the next bargain. Meanwhile we sit around 20 mil under the cap as I understand. I am sick of this scrap it together attitude in Chicago, especially on offense.
JERRY ANGELOS MISSION IN LIFE SHOULD BE TO BRING A GREAT QUARTERBACK TO CHICAGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Weather it be via the draft or trade or free agency, we should have traded out number one pick to New England for Matt Cassel in my opinion. Get another proven Quarterback Jerry, or get a potential great QB from the draft, dont give up. Going with Bret Bainey (I probably spelled his name wrong because I don’t know who he is) and Caleb Haine backing up a servicable at best Kyle Orton does not cut it in my opinion.
I disagree
By his actions Jerry Angelo is sending out two loud and clear messages. One, the free agency crop was thin and overpriced. Two, the Bears are rebuilding but don’t care to admit it publicly.
Angelo doesn’t need to be told the Bears have MULTIPLE needs to fill. You also don’t have to be the head cashier at Wal-Mart to understand that there is no way the Bears are going to find immediate answers to all of their position needs in the April draft.
Esp. with 6 picks
Maybe if we had like 8 or 9 picks like last year, I’d say OK just draft away but with only 6 picks in 7 rounds? You really got to pick and choose carefully.
by Sam Householder on Mar 4, 2009 11:32 PM CST up reply actions
Bret Bainey? : )
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off to a flying stop
I’m 4 sentences into his 1st response and can’t go any further. What doesn’t make sense is not bringing in a veteran to compete with Orton because we tried that last year with Rex. Yes Kyle competed with Rex last year, but NO we did not have 2 legitimate NFL starting quarterbacks competing last year. If that were true Rex would be starting because JA leveraged the last 6 years (most egregiously Super Bowl XLI) on his faith in Rex Grossman. All the while Kyle Orton (10-5 Rookie guy) warmed the bench. To now prolong the agony by invoking Rex’s past essence as a “starter” as the reason for not bringing in a veteran free agent quarterback is inexcusable.
I don't understand either
What’s the harm in bringing Garcia, Leftwich, Losman, or Simms in as your 2nd stringer? I don’t feel comfortable with Hanie starting if Orton suffers an injury. Do you?
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
maybe they draft a QB
but who on the Bears can evaluate QB talent? definitely not JA.
FAs:
Garcia- yes Leftwich-maybe Losman/Simms- not acceptable
I read more and my favorite part is when he says Cassle only did well because he was on a team that ya know actually has good management and has acquired talented players over the years. F the Patriots and F JA for being the GM of my favorite team and kissing the patriot’s ass like that and most importantly for not making the Bears a pretty good football team with a good supporting cast and a great system.
Possible WR
Angelo wants to get a #1 WR from the draft, since the Bears have 2’s, 3’s, and 4’s. Could it be possible that he may go after a real #1 with a little age on him, like Tory Holt if he is released? I know he isn’t what he was 5 years ago, but I would rather have him on the roster, along with a WR from the draft. Think about how much the current WR’s could benefit from having a player of that caliber on the team to show them what it takes to be a top notch player in this league.
age
Yeah, TJ Housh and Brian Dawkins are both old, so we’re not interested. Then explain to me why we signed Muhsin Muhammed and Marty Booker? They were both as old if not older than TJ I believe. And, why are we interested in Darren Sharper’s old ass?
I agree with him on the QB stuff, but to not at least call Jay Cutler’s agent seemed a little silly. As does not picking up ANY wide receiver. You can’t fix everything with free agency, but WR is by far the biggest need on the team (at least in my opinion). We literally have nothing there. Even signing Bryant Johnson would’ve made me happy—they’ve had a thing for him the last few years but I guess they must think Rod Marineli is gonna fix the offense too.
by a-town on Mar 4, 2009 10:59 PM CST reply actions
I know, I know JA has a valid "reason" for not doing it, but......
Braylon Edwards is on the trading block why cant we get him? Last year was crappy for him, but he obviously has the potential.
I don't know why everyone is complaining...
Everything Angelo said were the exact opinions we’ve discussed on this site, as to why the Bears shouldn’t be throwing money around in this year’s FA class. This year’s class SUCKS for what the Bears need.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that.
We know it's the most valuable position on the football team. We've gone through so many scenarios at that position we can write a book, moreso on what not do."
-- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
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So?
he says something and doesn’t even make an attempt to back it up. that’s what pisses me off. bryant johnson was there and now he’s with the lions. the hell with free agency, make a trade for gods sakes
OH! STEWIE!! GET OUT THE WAY BOY! GET OUT THE WAY!
-Stacey King
by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 5, 2009 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
So... you're complaining because we didn't get Bryant friggin Johnson?
Yeah… like we need another #2 or #3 WR.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that.
We know it's the most valuable position on the football team. We've gone through so many scenarios at that position we can write a book, moreso on what not do."
-- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
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At least another #2 (I consider Hester a sortof #2)
But not another #3… we have 3 of them…
Things will get better as they improve...
It's looking more and more like WR in the 1st round.
O-line in the second round
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that.
We know it's the most valuable position on the football team. We've gone through so many scenarios at that position we can write a book, moreso on what not do."
-- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
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forget johnson
way i feel is don’t preach to the press (or the fanbase) about Stabilizing the Quarterback position and when free agency rolls around, do absolutely nothing about it. and then he has the testicular fortitude to conduct an interview in the friendly confines of halas hall and basically renege on his “mission” by saying he’s comfortable with what he has at QB. I would had been content if he at least made an effort to reach out to a wideout in FA, but he didn’t. he just stood idle.
OH! STEWIE!! GET OUT THE WAY BOY! GET OUT THE WAY!
-Stacey King
by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 5, 2009 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
So... now it's "forget Johnson."
Talk about flip-flopping
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that.
We know it's the most valuable position on the football team. We've gone through so many scenarios at that position we can write a book, moreso on what not do."
-- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
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You misunderstand when i said forget johnson
no worries, Pollyanna
OH! STEWIE!! GET OUT THE WAY BOY! GET OUT THE WAY!
-Stacey King
by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 5, 2009 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
I'm sorry
don’t mean to be crude, his constant flip-flopping just gets under my skin.
OH! STEWIE!! GET OUT THE WAY BOY! GET OUT THE WAY!
-Stacey King
by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 5, 2009 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
If you clean it up,
Then by all means repost your comment and let him have it :)
Things will get better as they improve...
Agreed
This year’s free agency class is bad and way overpriced. The Bears do indeed have many holes to fill…Offensive Tackle, Wide Receiver, Safety, Defensive End, Guard, QUARTERBACK.
We all know the Bears won’t be able to address all their critical needs in the draft. Plus, first year players dont’ typically make much of an impact their rookie campaigns even if they do end up being inspired picks down the road.
Jerry Angelo is sending out signal that the Bears are in rebuilding mode. Most Bear fans aren’t willing to accept that diagnosis and instead want to scream at Angelo for not overpaying for the free agent cast-offs of other organizations.
QB, Guard, and DE
are not really dire needs. I do agree about the rest listed, but they can win with what they have currently on the roster in regards to those positions. Marinelli will help tremendously with the D-line, and Orton will have an entire TC to develop the deep ball.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
DON'T YOU FIND IT IRONIC
JA hasn’t brought in anyone with more skills than himself. Maybe he’s paranoid, having a player with a skillset overshadowing his own lackluster set may just be too imitimidationg for the him. That’s prophetic.
The FA Market is shit!
I’m tired of Bears fans complaining about not signing any of this crap! Just relax.
The Bears build through the draft thats just their history. I think JA wanted some players but they all got franchised. Oh well. Move on!
I say JA get your offensive talent through the draft now before the defense turns ancient.
Next season’s draft I’m sure will be about defensive youth movement.
So maybe the FA pool will be thicker for your prized WR’s. We can hope. For now I think they have to see what they drafted in Earl Bennett and get Rideau into the mix. Draft a number one WR.
Hester, Bennett, Rideau, Draft pick, FA, Olsen, Clark….. I think I can handle that for one season.
Pool and a pond... Pond be good for you.
yep
Hester, Bennett, Rideau, Draft pick, FA, Olsen, Clark….. I think I can handle that for one season
then with that top 5 pick we can get Mccoy or Bradford.
Brandon Rideau
He is on the active roster, isn’t he? I like him. Last year in pre-season he averaged like 25 yards per catch. I think 3 of his first 4 catches went for TD’s
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That was supposed to be a reply to SoulEater
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