What About Brandon Rideau?
by Haightminow on Mar 8, 2009 3:15 PM CDT
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A recent blogger mentioned the name Brandon Rideau and a light bulb went on over my head. His name pops up every now and then only to be quickly forgotten. out of sight, out of mind, I guess.
I really like this kid, from what little I saw of him last pre-season he seemed at the time to be one of the better options of Bear receivers. I know he didn't make the final roster and ended up on the practice squad but from what I understand he made the active roster toward the end of the year.
He has the size we are looking for at 6'3", 198 lbs. And from what I saw he has pretty good hands. 3 out of his first 4 catches in pre-season went for touchdowns although he only had 5 catches total for 127 yards and 25.4 yards per catch.
Now his first 3 years of high school he played quarter back, switching to wide receiver his senior year. He was 2 receptions shy of the school record at the University of Kansas where he graduated. In 43 games played he had 131 catches for 1,636 yards and 14 touchdowns.
Obviously he is lacking in areas, maybe because of his early years as a QB he is not very polished at the WR position. But I think he is an intriging prospect. The Bears have let this guy hang around for a reason, right? Maybe some one can let me know what I don't know about this guy.
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out of sight, out of mind
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by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 8, 2009 3:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So is he garbage? Or does he have a future or what?
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by Haightminow on Mar 8, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rideau easily beat....
Out all the other recievers on the roster in the preseason but was left off in favor of the now departed mark Bradley. He never made the roster due to the injuries in the secondary, but angelo and lovie both have said that he will be on the 09 roster!
by scespy12 on Mar 8, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very interesting.
It’s funny, I completely forgot about this guy. He is a nice big target. So that means right now were working with Hester, Bennett, Davis and Rideau. Hester and Rideau appear promising. Not sure about Bennett. And Davis, well, if he can work on his catching skills?
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by Haightminow on Mar 8, 2009 4:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Did you just reply
to your own blog post and call it interesting?
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by tomas21 on Mar 8, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant to reply to scespy12.
this reply crap still has me baffled: )
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by Haightminow on Mar 8, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
However, I do think that Brandon Rideau is a very interesting WR prospect.
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by Haightminow on Mar 8, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would have been much funner if
you had replied to your own post calling it awesome. Nothing wrong with a little self promotion.
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by Adam T on Mar 9, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like that time you made a joke in your post...
just to turn around and leave a comment about how funny it was?
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by Dane Noble on Mar 9, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we should give him a shot
i’d give him a shot
by daperp730 on Mar 8, 2009 4:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he's part of the
hanie, haas, rideau , wolfe super offense. JUST USE THEM RIGHT RON!
by mike b on Mar 8, 2009 5:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What happened to Haas?
I thought he was released or is he on the practice squad?
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by Haightminow on Mar 8, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haas signed with the seahawks
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by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 8, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what that means?
Haas will be Seattle’s next super star.
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by Haightminow on Mar 8, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
chances are
he already is using them right
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by tomas21 on Mar 8, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully Ron can get Wolfe involved in the game plan.
And hopefully Rideau can get some playing time.
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by Haightminow on Mar 8, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They seem at best "situational" players
Rideau could substitute during redzone possessions and maybe provide a big target and/or outjump the DBs. Hesters biggest asset(speed) is of less value on a short field. Maybe he could be more of an everydown WR, and is ready to break out, but not likely. I dont think Wolfe has much of a future on the Bears, from what little I have seen. Forte is such a good receiver that he stays on in 3rd downs, and Wolfe doesnt seem very adept at KO/PRs.
by gillrowdy on Mar 9, 2009 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Turn Wolfe into a slot receiver...
that way he won’t have to go through the D-Line every time he touches the ball. Plus, he is fast enough to create a matchup nightmare against LBs and Safeties. Being an ex-RB, should help him get monster YAC. If you question his hands, can they really be worse than Rashied Davis’s?
by chase17 on Mar 9, 2009 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
He got knocked over by a stiff breeze during KR and PR; you think putting him at slot receiver would be good?
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by ChiFan13 on Mar 9, 2009 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not good. too short
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by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 9, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I do...
So much for a stiff breeze….
by chase17 on Mar 9, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a slot guy is not a good idea
I’d rather the bears just use a Three back system utilizing Forte Jones and Wolfe. He’ll be entering his third season. It wouldn’t be a good idea to hinder his progress any further by trying to convert him into a receiver. that’s not a fly-by-night sort of thing as it would take him a whole season or more to learn and adjust to that position.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 9, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't have much hope for the guy....
They didn’t like him enough to get him on the field ahead of Rashied friggin Davis… so, well… I guess that says it all.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that.
We know it's the most valuable position on the football team. We've gone through so many scenarios at that position we can write a book, moreso on what not do."
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by SackMan on Mar 9, 2009 4:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah
guess he can’t play special teams as good as shied.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 9, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but this is a staff that values
experience over potential. Davis wasn’t so bad in past years with the dropped balls.
Politics seemed to play a big role in Rideau being cut and then on the practice squad. I followed him when he was with the Browns, and they also salivated over his potential.
I’d like to see Rideau get a chance to start, especially if no one else is brought in.
Also consider that it took ages for Hillenmeyer to get replaced…though Roach wasn’t much better. Which is why I keep wanting the team to draft a LB or possibly a guy like Okalahoma Safety Nic Harris — who has the size and coverage skills that the SLB demands.
Story on Yahoo said that Stafford and Sanchez could drop, leaving us with a chance at one of them. Conjecture, I know, but if they are available, I’d draft one of them over any WR in the draft (though Maclin would be a nice target).
by ethan a on Mar 9, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
explain please.
Politics seemed to play a big role in Rideau being cut
by mike b on Mar 9, 2009 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This seems evident...the name is Mark Bradley
that’s politics. One is an original, 2nd round pick who has never lived up to potential. One is an undrafted free agent on his second team, from a non-powerhouse college (if that needs to be clarified, too).
Mark Bradley and Earl Bennett, and a bunch of other draft picks, get outplayed and the guy who performs on game day, albeit pre-season, gets cut. This kind of thing happens plenty of times. The politics of an investment.
And pride. It’s talked about plenty on this blog alone. Bears coaches and management will stick with players they drafted. In a sense, their loyalty is welcoming. However, in some cases loyalty causes them to make moves that save face and validate their own positions, hence politics.
by ethan a on Mar 9, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just wouldn't use the word politics
I totally understand and agree mostly with what you’re saying, but politics isn’t the word. Stubborn…..yes. Borderline stupid…..yes. I wouldn’t say it’s politics. They just don’t give up on their draft picks when they’ve shown that they can’t play at the NFL level.
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by ChiFan13 on Mar 9, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
except they cut bradley
politics played a much bigger part in bradley being around this long, imo. i think the bears, like most people didn’t get impressed by scrub stats.
by mike b on Mar 10, 2009 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bradley was good...
when he played, his problem was that he couldn’t stay healthy
by chase17 on Mar 10, 2009 6:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
even when he was healthy
he never got to play. the fact is this, Bradley would had been a great player with the Bears. the Marks brothers of Oklahoma with Mark Bradley and Mark Clayton was an early indicator of how good he would be. He was the most complete WR the Bears have had in a long time.
He could run after the catch, run routes well, outleap any defender, great hands, and had the same breakaway speed Berrian has. there was a reason Lovie Smith said he’d be the number 1 receiver heading into 2008. The offseason surgery he had kept him out of a small portion of training camp. The coaching staff was foolish to give him up. I guarantee you all, if he were still here, we wouldn’t be worried about getting a WR in day one of the draft.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 10, 2009 6:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree...
Bradley must have done something that the coaching staff didn’t like. Because they randomly got rid of him this year, and didn’t play him last year when he was healthy and he was by far are best option at WR.
by chase17 on Mar 10, 2009 7:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually
bradley asked to be released. he was unhappy with not getting an opportunity to get on the field. oh yeah another thing Bradley can do is run block well. something the Bears WR’s also couldn’t do in 2008.
ethan a said that politics in the bears organization prefer experience over potential. if that is true, then why did Davis, a former cornerback converted to WR because of his potential play more than Bradley who was a second round pick because of his experience at WR? the same thing can be said with Hester.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 10, 2009 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Davis has been playing ball longer, and is older than Bradley...
and Davis played both WR and CB in the Arena League. This was a guy who, coming in to the 2009 season had more than a couple of years experience at the pro-level at WR — and Davis was ahead of Bradley since in the past (when Moose was on the team with BB) was the third WR.
Davis made some plays when he was the third WR, and I consider that on-the-field-experience. Am I wrong? Or did I just imagine that Rashied Davis was making plays in games the last couple of year, prior to 2009?
Bradley was raw coming out of the NFL draft, and was drafted just as much on the p-word as he was experience. If I had time I’d go and find the scouting reports from that draft. But I distinctly remember Mr. Hair discussing how Bradley was a high risk-reward pick based on potential and not on what he did in college.
Just playing the position in college doesn’t account for experience. That’s like saying that someone that just got a bachelor’s degree in the field has more experience than someone who didn’t get their degree in the same field but has been a professional in that area at the professional level to a certain level of success for some some years.
by ethan a on Mar 10, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude. the Arena League?
please try not to insult my intelligence.
If Davis was better than Bradley all along, then why didn’t Lovie Smith anoint Davis as the number 1 for 2008? and don’t say politics. Bradley almost matched Davis production in 2008 and played in half as many games.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 10, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Insult your intelligence?
If you want to demean the league, that’s fine. But if you think the Arena League isn’t a viable option that doesn’t mean it isn’t a professional league. Last time I checked that was grown men getting paid to play high-level football. Kurt Warner and Davis might agree.
And please don’t insult my intelligence by assuming what I’d say. But, you just made my point for me by using the word “anoint.” Perhaps you should look up that word before using it. Or, just reflect upon your own statement and look back at my argument holistically.
Bradley was a 2nd round pick, which were obligated they must try to make him work out as a pick.
And the last time I checked, Bradley and Davis were on different teams in 2008, hmmmmm. Considering you want to parallel their stats for this past year, our leading WR was Hester with 51 catches (which would be 30-something less than the Arizona Cardinals 3rd string WR, Steve Breaston).
Now, Breaston is talented, but in a different offense. Same goes with Bradley. Bradley was, arguably, on a team with weaker WRs and a weaker team.
The Bears, on the other hand, decided to play merry-go-round with the WR for the entire season.
by ethan a on Mar 10, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Bears, on the other hand, decided to play merry-go-round with the WR for the entire season.
that’s because they all suck. like i said, Bradley was ANOINTED number 1 receiver not because of draft status, but because he was a big play threat that would make up for what they were going to lose in Berrian. What was the reason Davis was on the field? because he was good at special teams and that’s it. Rideau is bad at special teams which is why he remains on the practice squad.
Please don’t tell me politics played a role in Bradley being given a chance, or Rideau being cut. that is a stupid thing to say because he was never given a chance. he was healthy in all of 2007 and instead, they decided to play Davis, the Hester project, and Berrian(who was a third round pick by the way). So what if Rideau had the most TD’s in the preseason? he had three. WOW! one more than a bunch of other guys.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 10, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
like I said, "anoint"
means to be given a position, not earn it.
The only thing stupid is that you make my point for me and you can’t even see it because you stupidly can’t see that:
1. Bradley was in a higher pecking order than Rideau
2. Davis maintains his position because of experience and performance.
3. Bradley was given chances to prove he could make plays because of his draft status. A guy not drafted in his position, with his uneven history, would not be given the same number of chances.
4. Your way of reasoning is to simply say, you dumb and he sucks. Perhaps you should try to actually use your amazing verbal skills to try and articulate something in terms of relevant analysis.
by ethan a on Mar 11, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
22 hours 6 minutes later
you decide to respond? discussion over. next topic
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by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 11, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And you don't have to be nasty
If you can’t be civil and comment without insulting me, i won’t respond to you, and please don’t respond to me.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 11, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bradley aked to be released prior to the beginning of the season....
But, his reason was: he knew he was in limbo, and on the verge of being released anyway. So, he wanted to be released ASAP, so he could have time before the season to catch on with another team.
When the Bears eventually released him during the season… it was their decision to do so based on their reasons, not because Bradley “asked.”
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that.
We know it's the most valuable position on the football team. We've gone through so many scenarios at that position we can write a book, moreso on what not do."
-- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
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by SackMan on Mar 10, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Link?
or are you hypothesizing?
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by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 10, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
here....
DT Tommie Harris, who is coming back from knee surgery, didn’t agree with his former teammate’s release.
“I don’t feel like he had a fair chance,” Harris said. “I feel like he just had his job taken from him. You know how it goes: He had a knee surgery, then he lost his job.”
Bradley knew his release was coming; he thought during the preseason that he would be waived. He was surprised he even made the 53-man roster.
Harris said he had a conversation with Bradley in the preseason, where Bradley indicated he asked the team for his release.
“Mark understood that this was going to happen from the beginning,” Harris said. “He asked for his release so he would have a fair chance to be on somebody else’s roster. But I guess they wanted to wait until week four for whatever reason.”
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that.
We know it's the most valuable position on the football team. We've gone through so many scenarios at that position we can write a book, moreso on what not do."
-- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
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by SackMan on Mar 10, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for the link
now I will shut up.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 10, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Experience over potential?
Then why the heck is JA doing nothing at WR in free-agency? It seems like everything he says in public contradicts his actions during the offseason.
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by propheteer on Mar 10, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because of something said on the blog over and over
The Bears value those that have been in their system. Take the argument I was having above: why did Davis start over Bradley in 2007. For one, if I remember correctly, Moose and BB were starters and Davis was in the slot. For another thing, Davis was successful in the Arena League as a WR and was a solid vet compared to Bradley (even if both have been in the league 5 years each).
JA was stated as saying they’d rather stick with someone in their own system than to go out and get some comparable player in FA or the draft. He’s also looking at maturity in experience. Davis is one of those type of guys, and perhaps it is because of his humble beginning in the Arena League.
JA is a super-patient GM, and will wait to see if his decisions were right.
At this point, it’s the blogosphere that assumes WR is our main target in the draft. JA could be waiting until May before picking up a FA WR and QB. As he has said, he doesn’t want players on the team to have their chances taken away by giving FAs as many reps.
by ethan a on Mar 11, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bradley was a lazy bum
every beat writer in the city has said it.
by mike b on Mar 10, 2009 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah?
can you provide a link for every beat writer(not like i care) that has said that?
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by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 10, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
radio
feel free to dig through espn radio 1000 podcasts around the time he was released.
by mike b on Mar 10, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN
that’s even worse.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 10, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they cut Bradley after giving him a couple more weeks to prove himself (after years of doing so)
and if the Bears weren’t impressed by his scrub stats they wouldn’t have kept him on practice squad, and then state he is part of the plan in 2009.
by ethan a on Mar 10, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they cut Bradley after giving him a couple more weeks to prove himself (after years of doing so)
they cut Bradley because he asked to be released from the team. get your facts straight before throwing out statemnts.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Mar 10, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's a fact
…
read above for Bradley’s release. Players ask to be released more times than they are actually released. The Bears put a lot of investment into him, and like it was said, he saw the writing on the wall and was trying to save face.
by ethan a on Mar 10, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
scrub stats
was a reference to rideau’s playing time. bradley can’t be a part of the 09 plan, you mean 08?
by mike b on Mar 10, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, I broke my own rule and used a vague pronoun...
the he involved in 2009 is Rideau.
I was in a hurry to get to work.
by ethan a on Mar 10, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't really care, just trying to follow
i don’t think the practice squad is a place to consider people as “part of the plan” they needed more bodies, and the kid played decent. I don’t think they’re smart enough to have WR plan worked out.
by mike b on Mar 10, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What good is special teams
If special teams is your best of the three phases?
by ethan a on Mar 9, 2009 5:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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