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I'll be honest: I had a hard time coming up with anything for this week's column before I settled on this idea. I could have reported on where Michael Vick is or how TO doesn't know what an OTA is, but that's a waste of time and energy for me and a boring read for you.

Instead, I'm breaking down the draft selections throughout Jerry's tenure (2002 - 2008). Time to settle some debates about Jerry's drafting!

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I realize that there's a lot of numbers/info here, but I attempted to make this as thorough as possible.

Overall Picks

2008: 12 selections
2007: 9 selections
2006: 7 selections
2005: 6 selections
2004: 8 selections
2003: 12 selections
2002: 9 selections

Total: 63 selections  

By Round

1st round: 7 selections

Year

Player

2008 Chris Williams
2007 Greg Olsen
2005 Cedric Benson
2004 Tommie Harris
2003 Michael Haynes
2003 Rex Grossman
2002 Marc Colombo

2nd round: 7 selections

Year Player
2008 Matt Forte
2007 Dan Bazuin
2006 Danieal Manning
2006 Devin Hester
2005 Mark Bradley
2004 Tank Johnson
2003 Charles Tillman

3rd round: 9 selections

Year Player
2008 Earl Bennett
2008 Marcus Harrison
2007 Garrett Wolfe
2007 Michael Okwo
2006 Dusty Dvoracek
2004 Bernard Berrian
2003 Lance Briggs
2002 Roosevelt Williams
2002 Terrence Metcalf

4th round: 9 selections

Year Player
2008 Craig Steltz
2007 Josh Beekman
2006 Jamar Williams
2005 Kyle Orton
2004 Nathan Vasher
2004 Leon Joe
2003 Todd Johnson
2003 Ian Scott
2002 Alex Brown

5th round: 13 selections

Year Player
2008 Zackary Bowman
2008 Kellen Davis
2007 Kevin Payne
2007 Corey Graham
2006 Mark Anderson
2005 Airese Currie
2004 Claude Harriott
2004 Craig Krenzel
2003 Bobby Wade
2003 Justin Gage
2003 Tron Lafavor
2002 Bobby Gray
2002 Bryan Knight

6th round: 8 selections

Year Player
2006 J.D. Runnels
2006 Tyler Reed
2005 Chris Harris
2003 Joe Odom
2003 Brock Forsey
2002 Adrian Peterson
2002 Jamin Elliott
2002 Bryan Fletcher

7th round: 10 selections

Year Player
2008 Ervin Baldwin
2008 Chester Adams
2008 Joey LaRocque
2008 Kirk Barton
2008 Marcus Monk
2007 Trumaine McBride
2007 Aaron Brant
2005 Rod Wilson
2004 Alfonso Marshall
2003 Bryan Anderson

Position by Round

1st: 2 OT's....DE....QB....DT....RB....TE

2nd: 2 DB's....2 WR's....DT....DE....RB

3rd: 2 WR's....2 LB's....2 DT's....OG....RB....DB

4th: 3 DB's....2 LB's....DE....DT....QB....OG

5th: 4 DB's....3 WR's....2 DE's....LB....DT....QB....TE

6th: 2 RB's....WR....TE....LB....DB....FB....OG

7th: 3 DB's....2 OT's....2 OG's....DE....LB....WR

Grouping by Round (Offense vs. Defense)

1st: 5 offense, 2 defense

2nd: 4 defense, 3 offense

3rd: 5 defense, 4 offense

4th: 7 defense, 2 offense

5th: 8 defense, 5 offense

6th: 6 offense, 2 defense

7th: 5 offense, 5 defense

By Position

QB: Three (4.7% of draft selections: 2003, 2004, 2005)

RB: Five (7.9% of draft selections: 2002, 2003, 2005, 2007, 2008)

FB: One (1.5% of draft selections: 2006)

WR: Nine (14.2% of draft selections: 2002, 2003, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2008)

TE: Three (4.7% of draft selections: 2002, 2007, 2008)

OT: Four (6.3% of draft selections: 2002, 2007, 2008, 2008)

OG: Five (7.9% of draft selections: 2002, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2008)

DT: Six (9.5% of draft selections: 2003, 2003, 2004, 2004, 2006, 2008)

DE: Six (9.5% of draft selections: 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008)

LB: Seven (11% of draft selections: 2002, 2003, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008)

DB: Fourteen (22% of draft selections: 2002, 2002, 2003, 2003, 2004, 2004, 2005, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2007, 2007, 2008, 2008)

Draft Selections still on Bears by Position

QB: None = 0%

RB: 3 out of 5 = 60%

FB: None = 0%

WR: 2 out of 9 = 22%

TE: 2 out of 3 = 66.7%

OT: 1 out of 4 = 25%

OG: 2 out of 5 = 40%

DT: 3 out of 6 = 50%

DE: 3 out of 6 = 50%

LB: 3 out of 7 = 42.8%

DB: 8 out of 14 = 57%

FYI: I listed J.D. Runnels as a FB, Devin Hester as a WR, and Danieal Manning as a DB for the previous two sections.

Draft Selections Still on Bears or in NFL

Legend:
ACT - Active with NFL team
FA - Free Agent (I did not use UFA's not with a team as current NFL players)
R/O - Retired/Out of League

2008

- Still on Bears: 9 out of 12 selections = 75%

- Still in NFL: 10 out of 12 selections = 83%

Year Round Player Status Team
2008 1 Chris Williams ACT Bears
2 Matt Forte ACT Bears
3 Earl Bennett ACT Bears
3 Marcus Harrison ACT Bears
4 Craig Steltz ACT Bears
5 Zackary Bowman ACT Bears
5 Kellen Davis ACT Bears
7 Ervin Baldwin ACT Bears
7 Chester Adams R/O
7 Joey LaRocque ACT Bears
7 Kirk Barton ACT Bengals
7 Marcus Monk R/O

2007

- Still on Bears: 6 out of 9 selections = 66.7%

- Still in NFL: 7 out of 9 selections = 77.7%

Year Round Player Status Team
2007 1 Greg Olsen ACT Bears
2 Dan Bazuin R/O
3 Garrett Wolfe ACT Bears
3 Michael Okwo ACT Colts
4 Josh Beekman ACT Bears
5 Kevin Payne ACT Bears
5 Corey Graham ACT Bears
7 Trumaine McBride ACT Bears
7 Aaron Brant R/O

2006

- Still on Bears: 6 out of 7 = 85.7%

- Still in NFL: 7 out of 7 = 100%

Year Round Player Status Team
2006 2 Danieal Manning ACT Bears
2 Devin Hester ACT Bears
3 Dusty Dvoracek ACT Bears
4 Jamar Williams ACT Bears
5 Mark Anderson ACT Bears
6 J.D. Runnels ACT Bengals
6 Tyler Reed ACT Bears

2005

Still on Bears: 0 out of 6 = 0%

Still in NFL: 5 out of 6 = 83.3%

Year Round Player Status Team
2005 1 Cedric Benson ACT Bengals
2 Mark Bradley ACT Chiefs
4 Kyle Orton ACT Broncos
5 Airese Currie R/O
6 Chris Harris ACT Panthers
7 Rod Wilson ACT Bucs

2004

Still on Bears: 2 out of 8 = 25%

Still in NFL: 4 out of 8 = 50%

Year Round Player Status Team
2004 1 Tommie Harris ACT Bears
2 Tank Johnson ACT Bengals
3 Bernard Berrian ACT Vikings
4 Nathan Vasher ACT Bears
4 Leon Joe R/O
5 Claude Harriott R/O
5 Craig Krenzel R/O
7 Alfonso Marshall R/O

2003

Still on Bears: 2 out of 12 = 16.7%

Still in NFL: 6 out of 12 = 50%

Year Round Player Status Team
2003 1 Michael Haynes R/O
1 Rex Grossman FA
2 Charles Tillman ACT Bears
3 Lance Briggs ACT Bears
4 Todd Johnson ACT Rams
4 Ian Scott ACT Chargers
5 Bobby Wade ACT Vikings
5 Justin Gage ACT Titans
5 Tron Lafavor R/O
6 Joe Odom R/O
6 Brock Forsey R/O
7 Bryan Anderson R/O

2002

Still on Bears: 2 out of 9 = 22%

Still in NFL: 3 out of 9 = 33%

Year Round Player Status Team
2002 1 Marc Colombo ACT Cowboys
3 Roosevelt Williams R/O
3 Terrence Metcalf FA
4 Alex Brown ACT Bears
5 Bobby Gray R/O
5 Bryan Knight R/O
6 Adrian Peterson ACT Bears
6 Jamin Elliot R/O
6 Bryan Knight R/O

Total

Still on Bears: 27 out of 63 = 42.8% of draft selections are still on the Bears

Still in NFL: 42 out of 63 prospects = 66.7% of draft selections are still in the NFL

By School

Five selected: Florida

Four selected: Oklahoma

Three selected: Miami, Pittsburgh

Two selected: Arizona, Arkansas, Boston College, Louisiana-Monroe, Michigan State, Mississippi, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue, Texas, Vanderbilt

One selected: Abilene Christian, Alabama, Arizona State, Boise State, Central Michigan, Clemson, Delaware, Fresno State, Georgia, Georgia Southern, Iowa State, Louisiana Tech, Louisiana-Lafayette, LSU, Maryland, Missouri, Nebraska, New Hampshire, Northern Illinois, Oregon State, South Carolina, Stanford, Tulane, Tuskegee, UCLA, Washington

By Conference

SEC: 15

Big 12: 9

Big 10: 8

ACC: 7

Pac 10: 7

Big East: 3

Sun Belt: 3

WAC: 3

CAA: 2

MAC: 2

Lone Star Conference (D-II): 1

Conference USA: 1

Southern: 1

Southern Intercollegiate (D-II): 1

Analysis

What does this tell me? Not a lot, but it does give some interesting insight as to how Jerry operates. Here's what I got out of it:

1. Maybe I was just oblivious, but I was surprised to see that we drafted a total of fourteen DB's and nine WR's during Jerry's tenure. I knew that we had drafted a lot at those two positions; I never thought it was that high.

2. Regardless of the first point, the two WR's that are still on the Bears are Devin Hester and Earl Bennett. Who knows how Earl will be. Mark Bradley, Justin Gage, Bobby Wade, and Bernard Berrian are enjoying careers elsewhere.

3. Yes, Jerry has picked up some good talent from small schools. But Jerry has drafted 49 players from major conferences (SEC to Big East), and only 14 players have been selected from the others. I had this impression that Jerry was a small-school draft raider, which is proven not to be the case.

4. It is disappointing (and somewhat indicative of the coaching staff IMO) to see that many of our selections aren't on the Bears, but are succeeding elsewhere in the league.

Enough of what I think. Anything surprise, worry, or excite you when you see these numbers?

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my own weekly musing

I’ve been so excited about Cutler I only recently realized how this might effect our drafting of Tebow … harumph

by No It All on Apr 13, 2009 10:25 AM CDT reply actions  

Nice

Way to break it down

by Fridge72 on Apr 13, 2009 10:39 AM CDT reply actions  

I applaud you

for your hard work. I’m actually impressed by the amount of Bears we’ve been able to obtain. Too bad that we couldn’t find some gems and keep them with all those WR selections. Percentage wise I think a lot of the selections in the 7th round are fodder since they’ll most likely fill a special teams role or no role at all. In turn it eleveates the number of DB and WR selected.

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by Ditkavsworld on Apr 13, 2009 10:48 AM CDT reply actions  

As much as we hate him

He isn’t a terrible drafter. His high percentage of guy still in the league is good. However I will still stop shy of calling a great or even good GM b/c a high percentage of those guys in the league are playing elsewhere which says 1 of 2 things: 1) Either JA is bad at evaluating/deciding which guys are good enough to stay and make an impact w/ the Bears or 2) JA’s coaches are poor at evaluating the talent and JA is not good at convincing them that these guys are worth sticking around.
    Lets face it, Wade and Gage are not all-pros but they are serviceable WRs and I think we would feel better if they were still around now. Well actually the more I think about it, the more I remember Gage fumbling and Wade muffing punts and dropping balls so maybe that is a terrible idea….

by Sam Householder on Apr 13, 2009 10:53 AM CDT reply actions  

WR

JA has completely failed in this area, not only drafting them but also letting decent starters go elsewhere. Some of it falls on the coaching staff for not developing these players, but most go to Jerry for not re-signing or accurately placing a value on them.

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by propheteer on Apr 13, 2009 11:04 AM CDT reply actions  

Great research on your post!

Very detailed and easy to read, with plenty of information for conclusive deductions.

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by propheteer on Apr 13, 2009 11:09 AM CDT reply actions  

I knew he drafted a lot of CBs

I would have guessed a higher number, but I had no idea he drafted 9 WRs. The next question is why he has drafted 5 in the 4th or later when he clearly isn’t getting any to stick.

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by Adam T on Apr 13, 2009 11:20 AM CDT reply actions  

Good information.

It would be interesting to see what other GMs stats look like for a comparison. I liked all of the info, but without any real frame of reference I have no idea what it all means.

by ThisIsJustBanter on Apr 13, 2009 11:36 AM CDT reply actions  

further breakdown

Off of the information you’ve given us, they have drafted 30 offensive players (10 still with the Bears, 8 in the league, & 2 Free Agents) and 33 defensive player (17 still with the Bears, 6 in the league). That would indicate that we do a poor job of developing offensive players on the Bears, since 1/3 of the offensive players we selected are still playing, or will be playing, for someone else. It also could say that we stick with our defensive players longer since over half of those players are still with the team. As was mentioned by someone else, it would be interesting to see how we stack up against the drafting records of other teams. I’m not a big fan of the coaching staff and their ability to develop or identify talent. I feel that we have had too many “non-NFL experience” coaches in the past working with the younger players. It will be interesting to see what the changes to this year’s staff will bring in the way of player development. Am I incorrect in saying that Ron Rivera was the only coach that Lovie has had on his staff that actually had any meaningful playing/coaching experience at the NFL level prior to coming to the Bears?

by BearFan611 on Apr 13, 2009 1:36 PM CDT reply actions  

I would say Marinelli this year

But your point is well taken.

Maybe what I’ll do is break down the Lions and Patriots with my next two columns.

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 13, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Turner

He was an OC before he came back. Admittedly, it was just with us, but still technically qualifies.

by TCBullfrog on Apr 13, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Offensive coaching

The first two years of offense were wasted on Jon Shoop and Terry Shea.

That’s almost 30% of Angelo’s tenure and skews the offense vs. defense coaching statistics somewhat. Excepting AP and Columbo (IMO) those offensive drafts were total offensive busts (pun very much intended).

Since 05 the offensive drafts appear much better…or maybe more consistent. Maybe that’s Ron Turner, maybe thats Angelo learning. Maybe both.

Ugh, remembering the Jon Shoop and Terry Shea “eras”…I just threw up in my mouth.

by msnyder275 on Apr 14, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Context

I like the idea of the post, but unfortunately it’s not worth much without doing the same to all teams. Right now, you have interesting numbers, but you don’t know what the baseline average is, so I don’t know how to interpret them.

Take the small school numbers point—you said he’s only drafted 14 out of 63 players from small schools, and that that isn’t much. But what is the actual rate that small school players get drafted at? I have no idea. Maybe 14/63=22% is way above average.

It’s like if you knew nothing about baseball, and someone told you that a player hit .300 without telling you anything else. That sounds awful—less than 1 in 3! But it’s actually quite good.

by TCBullfrog on Apr 13, 2009 5:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Yahoo Sports look back at the 2006 1st round draft and how well they’ve done in the league since. To be fair to JA, as some have pointed out, it appears very much to be something of a lottery.

by Spongie on Apr 14, 2009 4:46 AM CDT reply actions  

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