WR's in the 2009 Draft
Can we start talking more about WR's in the draft now?
I rank them like this:
1.Michael Crabtree
2.Jeremy Maclin
3.Darrius Heyward-Bey
4.Kenny Britt
5.Hakeem Nicks
6.Brian Robiskie
7.Percy Harvin
8.Juaquin Iglesias
9.Mohamed Massaquoi
10.Derrick Williams
11.Louis Murphy
12.Demetrius Byrd
I think there will be about six receivers off the board when we pick at 49. Hopefully we can take Robiske at #49, he is the son of the Atlanta Falcons WR's coach. He is very fundamentally sound and has a pretty good perspective on NFL life.
However, I think there is a decent chance that Hakeem Nicks slides to the 2nd round, and if that happens, I think we should trade up to grab him. I would be thrilled with that scenario, while he isn't the best receiver in the class he might be the one who can contribute immediately. Great routes and hands.
The only WR that I don't want is Percy Harvin, I think he is either a bust or a poor man's Devin Hester. We obviously don't need another bust, and we already have a Devin Hester. I'm pretty hopeful that if the Minnesota VikQueens are going to take a WR that they waste there first round pick on Percy Harvin... (Troy Williamson part 2)
Mel Kiper has us using the #49 on Massaquoi as the 8th WR taken in the draft.
Side note: I would love to sign Torry Holt, draft the best WR available, and tell Devin Hester to remember how to return kicks. I think Hester will never be as valuable at WR as he was as the best return man in history. I don't think this scenario will happen, but I wish it would. That said, if Devin is going to be our #1 WR, then let's have Garret Wolfe return kicks and focus only on that. I think we have seen that Devin can't do both.
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Did you spell Massaquoi's name like that on purpose?
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by Haightminow on Apr 13, 2009 9:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
oops...
no, that was a typo. If was going to mess it up on purpose, I would have made it much more hilarious sounding…
Trade for Amare. Keep Deng and Rose. Figure out the rest later.
by kidronmusic on Apr 14, 2009 4:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Robiskie
He’s a good blocker and his best attribute(from what I’ve read) is his route-running. He also plays the ball very well. Let’s hope he falls to us.
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by Acreman20 on Apr 13, 2009 9:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
He is solid on the field, and with his father being a NFL WR coach, he is probably the most prepared off the field as well.
Trade for Amare. Keep Deng and Rose. Figure out the rest later.
by kidronmusic on Apr 14, 2009 4:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about none of the above
Ramses Barden, dude is a monster. Played against weak competition but he has the same skill set as say ah, Brandon Marshall?
Cutty would make the kid a star!
by GhostofRex on Apr 13, 2009 9:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A couple days too late...
We had this conversation (argument actually) in another thread a couple days ago. I agree that if we can pick him up in the 5th (and maybe the 4th but that’s kinda pushing it) that he could turn out to be a steal. Pair him up with a pro-bowl caliber QB and put one of the game’s most dangerous speed threats on the other side of the field and you just might have something worth watching.
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by gridiron_assassin on Apr 14, 2009 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right.
I think some people fall in love with players they see in college and then have a hard time comparing them to players they haven’t seen.
Barden may in fact be a steal, but that’s no reason to take him two rounds ahead of where he would be available. If we love him, great, let’s do some ground work to figure out where he might go, and then put ourselves in position to get him at an appropriate pick.
Trade for Amare. Keep Deng and Rose. Figure out the rest later.
by kidronmusic on Apr 14, 2009 4:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Different position...
OL.
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by Dane Noble on Apr 13, 2009 9:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think our OLine
has been greatly improved. And at the very least, I think if they need help, that we should let this group play some games so that we can accurately diagnose their weakness.
Not saying we shouldn’t draft OL at all, but I don’t think we need to spend our first pick on it. Angelo has done well in the past with Free Agent Lineman, and I think he deserves a chance to see if he’s done it again.
Trade for Amare. Keep Deng and Rose. Figure out the rest later.
by kidronmusic on Apr 14, 2009 4:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't argue with the man
Even if we had new England’s O-line, he’d still want a lineman with the first pick. Typical LSU fans :}
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by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 14, 2009 6:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't see them drafting Oline with their 1st pick
I really have a feeling that JA is trying to set it up so that he can draft defense with the 2nd rounder. Best available DE, Free Safety, Corner; If the Bears can manage to sign a serviceable veteran WR.
by Fridge72 on Apr 14, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's my advice to the Chicago Bears.
Schedule as many private workouts at Halas Hall as you can for the next 8 days, and actually do something smart for once: have Cutler throw passes to these prospects in the their workouts.
Then, let Cutler tell you which one he wants. Because, if you leave the decision up the the Bears, they’ll just end up trying to convert a DB into a WR.
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by SackMan on Apr 13, 2009 9:29 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Sean Smith much?
:)
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by Dane Noble on Apr 13, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice idea
But NFL teams aren’t allowed to work out players at their facilities. They can bring them into Hallas Hall for interviews and physicals, but can’t do workouts. That’s why most of the players brought to Chicago are late round prospects who didn’t go to the combine. The team wants to know if the players are crazy or injured. To get a workout the NFL team has to go to the players school. I’m not positive if you can bring your QB without permission, but Baltimore took Flacco to Maryland to work out DHB. So, you can do it, I’m just not sure if all parties have to agree prior on what.
by Hurricanes becoming Bears on Apr 13, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Iglesias has the most big game experience and clutch hands over even Maclin and Bey in a consistent game by game comparison.
by payton#34 on Apr 13, 2009 10:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wont argue that
Him and Louis Murphy
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by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 13, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Murphy...
I think he will be a beast in the NFL especially on a team like Chicago, he is big and fast and is perfectly suited for a vertical passing attack, which is what the Bears will now run with Cutler at QB. He will not be drafted high because he played in a short passing attack at Florida which doesn’t fit his skill set.
Hey look the guys at NFL.com agree,
www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d80fae451&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true
by chase17 on Apr 13, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Murphy....
Louis Murphy, Florida (6’2 3/8, 203)
40 – 4.42, Arm – 33 5/8, Hand – 10, Bench – 12
Murphy has really good toughness and pretty good speed. In fact, if I thought he could run a decent route, I would have him four slots higher on my list.
I really want a receiver who can contribute soon, if not immediately. And though Murphy shows sold physical potential, he also shows a lack of fundamentals and experience.
If we sign a vet WR like Torry Holt, I think Murphy would make more sense for us, so we could bring him along under the radar a bit working out of the slot.
I think Murphy is a good 3rd round value. He is risky, and I don’t think he fits the mold of somebody with great hands who can contribute soon. I think that Louis Murphy is a Bernard Berrian type, somebody who can stretch the field vertically, but not so great on third down. I do think that he could be a sleeper, but pretty much all sleepers are risky by nature. That’s why they are expected to go late. He has never been the focal point of an offense and he has never played in anything close to an NFL system. That makes him ripe with untapped potential, but also means he lack fundamentals and will likely struggle with reading defensive schemes and learning offensive plays.
Trade for Amare. Keep Deng and Rose. Figure out the rest later.
by kidronmusic on Apr 14, 2009 4:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hope
I would be ecstatic if any of the top 4 fall. Crabtree, Maclin, DHB, and Britt have what it takes to be number 1’s. It may take a couple years to see production but at #49, they would all be steals. I would be very pleased if Nicks or Robiskie were available. Their ceilings may be lower than the first tier, but they are the most ready to contribute. Nicks is a bigger play maker but with his route running and hands, he can be the possession receiver we need, and still have room to grow.
Robiskie may not have the big play ability as the top guys, but at 6’3 with the route running and the coaches kid, he could contribute immediately. He’s tough, he goes over the middle and exposes his body to make the catch. He’s big and strong enough to get off jams. He uses his body well to shield defenders. He’s smart. He finds holes in zones, reacts to coverage all-around, and he comes back to the QB WHEN THE POCKET BREAKS DOWN! With a scrambler like Cutler in the back field, that could be huge. He probably will never be a number 1, but he could be exactly what we need next year. A guy to make the tough catch for 6 yards on 3 and 5.
I agree, I don’t like Harvin, but if he’s there at #49, I don’t think we can pass. As for the rest, I don’t think any are worthy of the pick. If we take Iglesias, Massaquoi, or Murphy, I wouldn’t be upset but it would be a slight reach. I do like these three for their size at least. I would prefer taking the B.A. safety or DE, and hope one of these three fall to #99 (Maybe Barden or Williams). My biggest fear is we reach for a 3rd round WO and watch him do nothing, while a 2nd round safety we passed on flourishes.
by Hurricanes becoming Bears on Apr 13, 2009 11:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think there is a slim chance...
that one of the those four slip to the second round… But I see no way that one of those four fall all the way to 49.
I agree with you about Hicks and Robiskie. I haven’t let myself get my hopes up about the top four…
but I think Hicks has potential to fall a bit. People are saying that he’s put on a little weight since the combine and a hamstring injury. But I look at him and see a kid who is a polished as a WR can be entering the draft. He could be a little faster, but he catches the ball and runs routes as well as anybody else.
And then Robiskie is not only ready to contribute on the field, but off the field, he knows what to expect and what is expected of him. Because he grew up as the son of a respected NFL Wide Receivers coach.
If Hicks and Robiskie are both gone, then we can probably shoot for another position and get better value.
Trade for Amare. Keep Deng and Rose. Figure out the rest later.
by kidronmusic on Apr 14, 2009 4:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see Hicks...
as a Anquan Boldin or Hines Ward type. Big, physical, reliable, and tough to bring down.
Trade for Amare. Keep Deng and Rose. Figure out the rest later.
by kidronmusic on Apr 14, 2009 4:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nicks, not Hicks :)
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by ChiFan13 on Apr 14, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who you callin a Hick!?
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by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 14, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the shoe fits....
BTW hows the tornado watch out there?
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by scespy12 on Apr 14, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Till 2:00
I never take em serious until they issue a warning. that’s when I call in the riggs.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 14, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You a trucker or something?
Awww, man what am I supposed to do about my sig now?
by scespy12 on Apr 14, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
im a dispatcher
my dad and my uncles are the truckers.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 14, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe a fan of Lethal Weapon?
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by Adam T on Apr 14, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
all of em except pt. 4
Chris Rock killed it. that and old man Mel.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 14, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oops.
I have done that a couple times in the last few months and have no idea why… thanks for the correction.
Trade for Amare. Keep Deng and Rose. Figure out the rest later.
by kidronmusic on Apr 14, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Hester was ready to be a true #1 receiver or somehow got Holt in FA..
then i would say go Safety in the second round. Honestly though, i think we have no choice but to go WR. A friend of mine also mentioned that he wouldn’t be shocked if he saw Harvin or DHB for that matter drop to 49. Do i think it will happen, who klnows, but the biggest reason i think that we need to get Holt or draft a receiver is Devin Hester’s durability. His skill has improved yes, but there have been a few games last year that he got hit hard and did not come back to the game. Even as a KR he has been banged up a few times and i don’t think we can put all our eggs into Hester as a #1 unless he show’s he can fight through minor injuries and stay on the field.
by Chitownproduct on Apr 14, 2009 2:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Honestly...
Devin Hester couldn’t catch punts… he muffed them a whole bunch (and he was still the greatest return man ever) he doesn’t catch well. And WR is a hard position. There is a lot of nuance in running routes, it might take all the years of his prime to fully make the transition.
I don’t see him ever being a star quality #1 or #2. I see him as a best case: a great slot receiver. And that is not as effective as being a great return man.
Trade for Amare. Keep Deng and Rose. Figure out the rest later.
by kidronmusic on Apr 14, 2009 4:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We should trade up for Hicks if Necessary ...
I really think we should target Hakeem Nicks in this draft. I think he will go around the beginning of the 2nd round.
Hakeem Nicks, North Carolina (6’0 3/4, 212)
40 – 4.54, Arm – 33 1/2, Hand – 10 1/2
I think Crabtree, Maclin, DHB, Kenny Britt and Percy Harvin will all go before Hicks… and I think Hicks has the potential to be a Anquan Boldin type of reciever. And I think he can contribute in year one.
Unfortunately, they are 8 or 9 teams picking ahead of us in the 2nd that might grab a WR. I would hate to lose out on Hicks and grab somebody who can’t contribute right away, or doesn’t fit as well, just because we didn’t trade up a bit.
Trade for Amare. Keep Deng and Rose. Figure out the rest later.
by kidronmusic on Apr 14, 2009 4:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I like Robiskie
but if he is not there or there is a better prospect at another position (OL, DL, S) then I have no problem going elsewhere. More than likely this pick isn’t going to make the difference between us winning games this year or not. I saw a link a week or so ago to all the 2nd RD WR’s picked the last 5 years or so and only a couple of them contributed as Rookies and they averaged as a group like 1 point something catches a game for 20 yards. DeSean Jackson was one who did well and Anquan Boldin was the only one to post 1000 yards as a Rookie.
Another person who is way under the radar but displayed spectacular explosiveness at the combine and productivity in college is Jarret Dillard. I would love to see him in a Bears uniform. Probably a 3rd or 4th Round guy at this point but a workhorse who has been very productive and can jump out of the stadium. I think a no-brainer later round selection.
by DickButkus51 on Apr 14, 2009 8:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If the Bears go WR in 2nd?
Not convinced that they will. I have a hard time making up my mind on who it will be. I think Iglesias will be there and is someone that the Bears like. That said, I really think that a couple receivers will fall out of the 1st round.
Maybe Heyward-Bey who was projected in the in the early 2nd round before producing a 4.3 forty at the combine.
or
Hakeem Nicks who looks great on tape, but must have barely spelled his name correctly on the Wonderlic.
I think the Bears are going to draft best available at the 49th pick. Maybe Britt or Robiskie if they are there or possibly Loadholt. Whatever is the most value.
I really think they will go DE or S if there is one available that they like. The draft doesn’t seem to be as deep at those positions and with Lovie calling the defenses this year his ass is on the line. I think JA gets him some players to help with that in the draft. All three of our DE’s contracts expire at the end of 2009. They have to do something with this position.
by Fridge72 on Apr 14, 2009 9:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
WR
I wouldn’t mind to see the Bears go after somebody like Patrick Turner from USC. 6’5 220 lbs, runs the 4×100 and 4×200 relay for the USC track team. Big target whose built like a brick shithouse could do some damage in the redzone and picking up first downs. Here’s what they say about him at scout.com:
Coach’s Comments: “Patrick is an outstanding young man who works very hard,” said Head Coach David Martin. “He has unlimited potential because of his talent. Patrick has a natural instinct for getting open and going for the ball.”
Scouting Report: Patrick Turner is the prototype for the current trend of tall receivers in college football. He has an excellent combination of great size and good speed. Patrick posseses tremendous hands, concentration and body control.
Sounds like the type of receiver the Bears need opposite Hester. What say you?
by McRipper on Apr 14, 2009 9:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll take anybody at this point
that’s taller than 6"3’
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by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 14, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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