Matt "They Call Him Legend" Forte vs. Payton & Faulk
by Haightminow on Apr 21, 2009 3:39 PM CDT
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The city of Chicago has never seen such a spectacular season from a rookie running back as the one that Matt Forte had last year. And when we consider the history of the Chicago Bears, since 1920, and the great names that represented the Bears for all of those years, Matt Forte's achievement is monumental.
Walter Payton was the ideal complete back who set the gold standard for how the position should be played. Forte is also a complete back. Forte and Payton both have similar styles in that they both can not only run the ball, but can also catch, block and score touchdowns, and they do all of these very well.
Perhaps the most complete back to ever play the game is Marshall Faulk, arguably. Of course there are many great backs to come out of Chicago and the rest of the NFL, considering the style, completeness and demeanor of Forte, Payton and Faulk, all being similar to one another, I've decided to compare their stats from their rookie seasons, let's take a look:
Forte: Rushing Yd's:1238 Recieving Yd's: 477 Total Yd's: 1715
Rushing Td's:8 Recieving Td's: 4 Total Td's: 12
Receptions: 63 Yd's per Carry: 4 Fumbles: 1
Drafted in 2nd round 44th pick overall
Faulk: Rushing Yd's: 1282 Receiving Yd's: 522 Total Yd's: 1804
Rushing Td's: 11 Receiving Td's: 1 Total Td's: 12
Receptions: 52 Yd's per carry: 4.1 Fumbles: 5
Drafted in 1st round 2nd pick overall
Payton: Rushing Yd's: 679 Receiving Yd's: 213 Total Yd's: 892
Rushing Td's: 7 Receiving Td's: 0 Total Td's: 7
Receptions: 33 Yd's per carry: 3.5 Fumbles: 9
Drafted in 1st round 4th pick overall
(Note: Payton started only 7 games, Forte and Faulk started 16)
There will only ever be one "Sweetness", and there will only ever be one Marshall Faulk, the catalyst for "The Greatest Show on Turf", and of course Matt Forte has a long way to go before his career can be compared to the likes of Payton and Faulk, but we cannot deny that his rookie season is legendary. We may be witnessing a legend in the making. Matt Forte, "They call him legend"?
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Nobody calls him legend.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Not yet.
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Of the 100 greatest athletes in the past century...
Only one of them was ever nicknamed “Legend.”
Larry Legend.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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What about, "They Call Him Legend"?
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That's retarded
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Thank you.
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You know what's really retarded?
A picture of a Cubs saying on a Bears fan site, that is retarded.
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That is a bitchin' word, retarteraded.
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by Haightminow on Apr 21, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Getting a little ahead of ourselves...
He had a great rookie season and hopefully an even better sophomore campaign with a much improved OL, I still think it’s a little premature to call him anything other than effective and up-and-coming. He should flourish with a much better OL and a quarterback that can keep defenses honest but that all remains to be seen.
P.S. you are an idiot for even suggesting his name with Faulk and Sweetness!! (I thought you might like that considering you were asking for it in your other post lol)
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Apr 21, 2009 2:32 PM CDT reply actions
That is good s**t.
That is exactly the type of interaction I am looking for.
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Haha
Had a feeling you would enjoy that. I joined recently and I always thought I was chosen for the Bears and I didn’t know how to express that until I came here and saw some of your other posts lol
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Apr 21, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Love your name, gridiron assassin, I believe you are chosen.
I’m a Syracuse basketball fan too.
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Gotta love
Jonny Flynn and that badass (kind of a punk but whatever) Devendorf,
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Apr 21, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I love Devendorf.
I was born and raised in Niagara Falls NY, went to the same high school as Flynn and Paul Harris. You know Flynn is going to the NBA, right? And Greg Paulus is visiting Syracuse today, don’t know if it is for football or basketball though.
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I think
Paulus is trying to play quarterback for a year somewhere because if I remember correctly he is out of basketball eligibility but has one year of football eligibility remaining. A little OT AND NOT sure if you’re a Chicago Bulls fan but I would love to see them pick up Flynn in the draft to be Rose’s backup so they can trade Hinrich and resign Gordon as a starting SG or sixth man.
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Apr 21, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, you are right, I forgot he used up his basketball eligibility.
I’m actually a Knick fan, but I am hoping the Bulls knock off Boston. I’d like to see Flynn in New York.
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Knick Fan!!
Hate to break it to you hate but true Bears fans are Bulls fans. Real Bears fans hate the knicks. Funny for all the huffing and puffing you do you’re really just a poser.
by No It All on Apr 21, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am a jerk, an idiot, a retard, an a**hole, etc...
Where I draw the line is here tough guy. I will fight to the death for my Bears, me and you, anytime, anywhere.
Before any other sport, I am a football fan. Before any other team, I am a Bear fan. You want to try me tough guy? Believe me, this match-up is over before it began. You never stood a chance.
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whatever wanna be
To use a rather appropriate analogy (mainly because it appeals to a simpleton such as yourself): you are to a true bears fan what the civilian Greek neighbors are to the Spartans in 300. Your enthusiasm is kinda appreciated but at the end of the day you are just a blowhard Knicks fan which diminishes your capacity to even appreciate my Chicago Bears.
You are weak, dead weight, a burden, a hindrance,..
Cannon fodder. Aren’t you the one who used to be a Viking fan? Yeah, it is you, you are a sell out, a traitor, go back to the Vikings, we don’t need any wishy washy, shady so called fans around here. What are you waiting for? The Vikings to win the north, then you’ll go back to them? What a lame.
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by Haightminow on Apr 21, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
ignoramous
as usual u have no idea what the f*ck u are talking about so just shut up. I’ve been a Bears and Bulls fan since conception (born a cubs fan evolved into a sox fan after 1989 season) so stop talking out yer ass for once.
back to the point tho how ’bout weather permitting you wear your knicks jersey to a bears game and see what we real bears fans think of fake ones like you.
I'm also a Yankee fan, a Fighting Irish fan(football)....
A Syracuse fan (basketball), I’m a huge boxing fan. I am a sports guy, I have my teams, I am proud of my teams. I believe in loyalty to my teams, no matter what. When was the last time the Knicks went to the playoffs? I still represent, I am not ashamed. You should be ashamed, switching teams, it is just a matter of time before you switch it up again. Me, I will never switch it up, I remain loyal, no matter what. What really trips me out is how you can switch teams to the same division, to your old rival, how do you feel when you watch a Bear Viking game?
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by Haightminow on Apr 22, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
u are retarded
as i pointed out above i have never been a fan of any other football team but the Chicago Bears. You have confused me with somebody else regarding this Viking fan thing.
but whatever you heart john starks and claim to be a die hard Bears fan… that is funny. there is only one team worthy of wearing blue and orange and that is the Bears not the knickerbockers. its cool tho keep supporting my team and buying Bears stuff. go Bears!
Thank you, keep fighting the good fight.
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by Haightminow on Apr 22, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Correct me if I'm wrong but..
I think that when Haightminow and No It All came into the blog some people thought they were the same person? Guess not.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Apr 22, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I am the real deal.
This guy is an impostor. I fight, he runs. I am loyal, he is a traitor. I am brave, he is a coward. I am an asset, he is a liability.
For what does strength have in common with weakness?
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Every strength has it's weakness.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Apr 22, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
No, I asked , what does strength have in common with weakness?
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It is not, hate.
It is Haight.
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I think that was another guy
id started with 3rd down or something. I don’t recall exactly.
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It was 3ndout55
who we all thought was hateminnow.
Because as far as we're concerned, there is still no team in the history of the NFL that could beat the '85 Bears.
by Ditkavsworld on Apr 23, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Haight, not hate.
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Hate?
Lol…jk. I just couldn’t resist. :)
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
by Ashley Czuba on Apr 24, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
i'm still not convinced
hateminnow is too similiar, and the other guy has disappeared.
Who is trying to convince you?
You are the one trying to convince yourself. And who really gives a sh*t? What are you trying to prove? What if I am two people? What if I am two things? Half man, half bear. Then you would really be f**ked, as if your not already f**ked.
Take the worst nightmare you ever had, o.k. The nightmare that woke you up in the middle of the night crying like a little baby, and multiply that nightmare by 100, alright. That is close to what you have when you step up against me, the worst nightmare you ever had x100. Remember that. Me,Haightminow, 100x worse than your worst nightmare toughguy.
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You do know he had the greatest rookie season for a Bear RB ever, right?
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Oh boy, I've heard that one before
Hmmm Salaam, A-train.
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 21, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Lets compare Fortes stats to Salaam and the A-Train.
They were no where near the complete back that Forte is.
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True but
that has to be taken in context. He was pretty much the ONLY weapon we had last year. We had a bunch of old receivers who were constantly injured, our young receivers either couldn’t get on the field (bennett) or just weren’t polished route runners (hester), and a quarterback who couldn’t do much but throw to the running back (because as much as I liked Orton, the guy just couldn’t throw a deep ball to save his life). Really the only other weapon on the team was Olsen and he was never utilized properly because of the ineptitude of our OC.
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Apr 21, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
What about Hester?
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A threat, but not a reliable threat...
He had a good game here and there but overall he was very inconsistent and not nearly as polished a route runner as you would expect from your supposed #1 (or even #2) receiver. He was a threat in that he is as explosive as pretty much anyone in the league with the ball in his hands, but I still think he needs another year or two and a lot of work before he can be considered a legitimate threat in the passing game.
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Apr 21, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Very good point of view, I agree.
With Jay Cutler, this might be his year.
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One can only hope...
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Apr 21, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
No... that acknowledgement belongs to Gayle Sayers
Sayers in 1965
5.2 yards per carry (166 attempts for 867 yards)
17.5 yards per reception (29 receptions for 507 yards)
22 TDs (14 rushing, 6 receiving, 1 punt return and 1 kick return)
Forte in 2008
3.9 yards per carry (316 attempts for 1238 yards)
7.6 yards per reception (63 receptions for 477 yards)
12 TDs (8 rushing, 4 receiving)
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Technically....
you have to say that Forte has the single greatest rookie RB season in Bear history because of total yards gained. Technically, and it would also be in the books that way. Of course with the side note that, Sayers played less games than Forte, don’t get me wrong, I totally understand what you are saying.
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yeah
he had more yards, but Sayers had almost twice as many TD’s with almost half the carries Forte had. he also had a higher AYC and had more receiving yards with half as many receptions. uhhh, I’m going to go with sayers on this one.
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 21, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
lemme break it down for ya
he averaged a touchdown every 8 touches.
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 21, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
like I said, I understand the point, and it is valid.
But technically, in the books, Forte has the best rookie season because of total yards gained.
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Technically...
Gayle Sayers holds the NFL record for most TDs in a rookie season with 22 in 1965. At the time, that also set the record for most TDs in a single season by any player in NFL history. That record now belongs to LaDainian Tomlinson, with 31 TDs in 2006.
Sayers was voted unanimous choice for NFL Rookie of the Year honors.
So, technically, not only did Sayers have the greatest rookie season for a Chicago Bear RB ever… he had one of the greatest rookie seasons in NFL history.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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I agree with what you are saying.
But it is total yards gained from scrimmage. Sayers has 1374, Forte has 1715. And like I said, you have to take in consideration that Sayers played 14 games and Forte played 16. But still, technically, in the books, Forte holds the record because of total yards.
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Total points
should be the overriding factor on who was more productive, not yards. That’s like saying the Vikings defense was better than the Bears (hypothetical only) because they gave up less yards, but the Bears gave up less points.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
Very good, valid point.
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Sayers also had 898 return yards...
Giving him 2,272 APY (All purpose yards).
His stats don’t take into consideration that he also had 53 passing yards and 1 TD pass… thus giving him 2,325 APY, and 23 TDs.
So… “technically, in the books,” Sayers still holds the record.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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WHOO!
dug deep on that one huh, Sack :)
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 21, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
If Yardage is your marker lets throw Hester into the argument.
Hester Is one of three Bears all-time to receive first-team AP All-Pro honors in their first two seasons. Played all 16 games during All-Pro and Pro Bowl rookie season, leading the NFL in punt returns (47) and punt return yards (600) while tied for the lead with 3 punt return TDs and 2nd in punt return average at 12.8 (led NFC)… Also led NFC in kick return average at 26.4 on 20 returns for 528 yards while tying for league lead with 2 kickoff return TDs. So Hester had 1128 yards, was first team All Pro and a Pro Bowler. And set multiple records. Yardage is not the only measurement of greatest seasons. Its just stupid to be that narrow minded in the approach to comparing players. Look Forte is good but your getting waaay carried away. Legend, No. Tulane Terror, Yes.
"Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. "---George S. Halas
by Halas is God!!!!! on Apr 23, 2009 1:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Your misinterpreting.
It’s not what I go by, it’s what the record books go by.
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Halas is not God. Close to God? Yes. God? No.
It’s just stupid to be that narrow minded in the approach to comparing Halas to God.
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Technically
I think Tom Brady threw 50 touchdowns in ‘07, but technically i’m still a little light-headed from yesterday so I might be incorrect
"The phone's for you, I think it's the Devil."
TD passes fall into a different category of their own in the record books.
You have to cross the goaline with the ball in your arms to score a TD.
LT holds the single season TD record with 31.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Touche' Sack
I was really just trying to f*ck w/ you a bit
"The phone's for you, I think it's the Devil."
how about
Comparing 2 chicago rookies Forte, and Rose. Talented, hard workers, effective, upcoming,and very high character. I am impressed by the way they always say the right thing. It makes their production that much better!
If you live in Chicago you are a bears fan, if you move from chicago you stay a bears fan, if you move to chicago you will be a bears fan.
Exactly.
Forte is very well mannered and humble and he loves him some Shrimp Gumbo.
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we got a gem
if a player is pretty good, and of excellent character those are the ones that are great too watch. I would love to ship off some of the greats in the league, and replace them with high character guys. you know the ones who feel blessed to play, not the other way around.
If you live in Chicago you are a bears fan, if you move from chicago you stay a bears fan, if you move to chicago you will be a bears fan.
I would not
If it was like that, there would be no T.O.s no Chad Ocho Cincos and no D-nabbs. The NFL would be less interesting if there were no me-first, pay me divas.
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 22, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I am sick of those guys, dont have a problem with the way they celebrate, just off field
If you live in Chicago you are a bears fan, if you move from chicago you stay a bears fan, if you move to chicago you will be a bears fan.
Oh no
If it’s a pacman jones kind of thing I agree with you whole heartedly. But in my book, T.O. and Chad Ocho Cinco aren’t menaces to society. they don’t get arrested and they aren’t looked at as a blight to the league. They just have a tendancy to run their mouths. As long as they aren’t shooting people in strip clubs, I’m fine with it.
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 22, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
disagree with that
there is nothing wrong with being ultra competitive, but when you cause problems in an organization publicly that is wrong. Team first, loyalty, appreciation for where you are.
If you live in Chicago you are a bears fan, if you move from chicago you stay a bears fan, if you move to chicago you will be a bears fan.
What's wrong with McNabb?
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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nothing
doesn’t have the off season, and off the field problems that others have. Maybe he wants to be traded, maybe he wants a bigger contract, or better weapons. he just wants to win.
If you live in Chicago you are a bears fan, if you move from chicago you stay a bears fan, if you move to chicago you will be a bears fan.
Nah
He’s a Diva. the media just chooses to protect his goody-two shoes, My Mom Is On The Cambells Soup Commercial image. If you watched him in the playoffs, you saw some of that divaness me first crap come out. He was clapping when Kolb threw a pick, and whether you want to admit it or not, the T.O. saga was partially his fault.
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 22, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Terrel Owens is just a very competitive, emotional football player in my opinion.
The guy wants to win and competes at a very high level. Selfish? sure. He talks sh*t but backs it up. Ocho Cinco has toned it down a little, he used to be really annoying but he has gotten a little better.
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Good Stuff
No question Forte looks the part. I’m hoping that Cutler will make defenses keep that 8th guy out of the box and Forte can have an even better 2nd year than his rookie year.
But let’s hold off on the comparing to Payton and Faulk.
Dumb...
post. Yeah, Double Deuce had a great rookie year, but so did A-Train.
Our line has improved, we have a solid (but new) QB, so hopefully he can only go up.
Don’t go jinxing my boy Double Deuce. It won’t mean nothin til we have the NFC North wrapped up and are heading to another NFC Championship or SB.
BEAR DOWN!
You are not supposed to call the post dumb.
you are supposed to call ME dumb, or dumb ass, or idiot etc… And good job on your post, the neck beard post, the only post you made, good one, keep up the good work tough guy.
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Why is there a picture of Benson?
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Apr 21, 2009 3:54 PM CDT reply actions
Seriously, I would like an explanation of why Benson is in that picture
I’ve checked and he’s not even mentioned in the post.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Apr 21, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
What are you talking about? Picture of Benson where?
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he was the first pic. geez don't you even pay attention to your own post?
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Apr 21, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Onions, mustard, jalapenos...
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I dont even know what to say about your name...what does haightminow mean anyway?
Is it suppose to mean " Hate me now" or something?
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Apr 21, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not trying to talk s**t.
just messing with you, I thought you would get a kick out of it. I love polish sausage, and the Super Fans, your name is classic.
Haightminow is originally one of my e-mail addresses. I tried to use hate me now,but it was already used. Now I’m glad because haightminow looks better.
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I never thought you were trying to talk s**t at all so no worries.
I was just simply asking.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Apr 21, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
My bad.
I thought maybe you thought I was getting crazy.
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just the usual haightminow
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Apr 21, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
That's right, understood.
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Whoever added the Forte/Madden, f**kin' sweet!
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Very nice touch, really.
It goes very well with, Matt “They Call him Legend” Forte, if I do say so myself.
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Wow
I didn’t realize Sweetness had 9 fumbles in his rookie year.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
And that was only in 7 starts.
But he actually played in 13 games, but only started 7.
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Case of the dropsies
I guess he turned those fortunes around very quickly.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
i'm sorry if i missed this but why
are we discounting 900 yards of kick and punt returns for Sayers?
I'm not discounting them, you are right.
Special teams is not included in yards from scrimmage.
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i know
but it’s the only way to really have this conversation.
Maybe I should have included Sayers in the comparison.
I was trying to keep the post short, and I used Payton and Faulk because they are very similar to Forte in their styles of play. Forte does not return kicks or punts, so that factored in choosing Payton and Faulk and not Sayers.
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according to your original post i understand
but this then turned into a Chicago Bear’s rookie conversation. At that point Sayers has to be in the conversation. But for your original comparison, sayers shouldn’t be in it.
That is true
At the same time, we can also discuss the merits of the rookies’ running and passing games.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
NO, where did the Forte/Madden picture go?
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I know you all are arguing
about if Forte is better than whoever and whatnot. But whether he is or not, that is still a very impressive rookie season! I LOVE Forte, and am hoping with the changes the Bears have made, that he will have an even greater 2nd season. :D
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
That's right HoneyBear, that's exactly what we need around here..
a little optimism.
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Forte looks like a keeper
I’m probably getting ahead of myself, but maybe, just maybe, he will be the next Ladanian Tomlinson
just as long
as he is not the next cedric benson…..
Is it August yet???
by NOR CAL BEAR on Apr 21, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
made me chuckle for some odd reason
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 21, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
You know you had
a bad start to your career if the old 80’s character Benson is more popular than you.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
I know him as the voice of Dr. vance from half-life 2
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by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 21, 2009 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
How about Webster?
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by Haightminow on Apr 21, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Love this post
Love that Forte compares well to two of the best ever.
He was better than his stats. Don’t you think? Watching the games, he was so dependable. He turned in yards out of nothing at times. He took what the D gave him and always got a little more. He was so much fun to watch. I wanted to see more of the breakaway speed after the week 1 TD that was so pivotal against the Colts. Man, I’d like to see more of that this year.
Thank you Smithie Love.
I got all excited watching some Forte highlights and I was thinking, “This guy is gonna be legendary, we are witnessing a legend in the making”. God willing.
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For once I don't want to strangle Haight with pantyhose
While comparing him to Sweetness and Faulk I was initially irate, however the statistics back up his argument. A few counterpoints from me:
-Forte was the main weapon on this offense. Will he ever get this amount of touches again if the team improves like it needs to?
-My personal opinion, Forte is near his ceiling. He is very polished for a rookie, and I don’t know where he can improve and has shown the possibility to do so.
Otherwise, it was thought provoking/
by wennington4 on Apr 21, 2009 11:01 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I can't help but think that he can only get better.
He seems to have his head on his shoulders pretty good. He doesn’t appear to be the drinking and party type. After his success last year he is probably working out like crazy trying to get even better. And when you think about how Cutler and Hester and Olsen are going to stretch the field this year, and take the safety out of the box, and Cutlers ability to scramble and find Forte out of the back field. To say that Forte is near his ceiling after his rookie year is very critical. He is no where near his ceiling.
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by Haightminow on Apr 22, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Hell, I think he's a Top 5 fantasy RB already
I just traded Steve Slaton and a 2010 first-round pick for Forte (whom I traded away after three games last season for Slaton and Calvin Johnson).
Look, the line should be MUCH better and having Cutler under center means defenses will have to respect the pass. If Lovie is serious about working Kevin Jones into the RB rotation to keep Forte fresh, I think we’re looking at him producing around 1,400 yards rushing, 500 yards receiving and 15 touchdowns in his second season — and that’s on fewer touches.
If he can get his average up around 4.8 yards, and I think that’s reasonable given his talent and the offensive improvements, then look out.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
4.8 per is very realistic
I’m thinking he goes over 2000 total yards from scrimmage.
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I remember drafting Forte. Best decision I made all year
made up for taking Brady
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by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 22, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I got lucky had him and slaton on my team
If you live in Chicago you are a bears fan, if you move from chicago you stay a bears fan, if you move to chicago you will be a bears fan.
wait didnt brady go in sec. rnd you were towards the end of draft. nobody showed up for draft went really fast.
If you live in Chicago you are a bears fan, if you move from chicago you stay a bears fan, if you move to chicago you will be a bears fan.
Yessir took westbrook in the first.
I remember that! well I’ll be damned! hopefully I can look forward to facing you again in this years league. I’m pretty sure you beat me last season since i got my ass kicked by virtually everybody.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 22, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
let me know which one, small world sometimes
If you live in Chicago you are a bears fan, if you move from chicago you stay a bears fan, if you move to chicago you will be a bears fan.
WCG has a fantasy league
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by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 22, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
ok sounds good
If you live in Chicago you are a bears fan, if you move from chicago you stay a bears fan, if you move to chicago you will be a bears fan.
looking for good league to get into this year
If you live in Chicago you are a bears fan, if you move from chicago you stay a bears fan, if you move to chicago you will be a bears fan.
I usually play in the NFL.com fantasy league
Don’t know if that counts as real FF, however.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 22, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I actually played in an all chicago fan league last year on nfl.com
If you live in Chicago you are a bears fan, if you move from chicago you stay a bears fan, if you move to chicago you will be a bears fan.
you know what?
I think I remember you from that league. Did you use chi-town? I do remember a chi-town in my league.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 22, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
yep I did, what name did you use?
If you live in Chicago you are a bears fan, if you move from chicago you stay a bears fan, if you move to chicago you will be a bears fan.
Beavers for one league
Smasherz for the other
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by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 22, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
was that the sut your mouth league?
If you live in Chicago you are a bears fan, if you move from chicago you stay a bears fan, if you move to chicago you will be a bears fan.
what was the name of the league?
If you live in Chicago you are a bears fan, if you move from chicago you stay a bears fan, if you move to chicago you will be a bears fan.
I honestly don't remember the name
might’ve been shut your mouth. do you remember anybody in that league?
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 22, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
not off the top of my head,I was in 2 leagues I won one, and the other 2nd ,3rd?
If you live in Chicago you are a bears fan, if you move from chicago you stay a bears fan, if you move to chicago you will be a bears fan.
I like it, not bad
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I like it but
It doesn’t roll of the tounge like sweetness. It sounds like something Chris Berman would say.
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 22, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
The Swami, Berman is the bombizi.
Passion For The Game, Loyal To The Name, Chicago Bears, I Trust In Thee, Standing Strong Since 1983.
Or Matt "First Downs are His" Forte, Matt "Touchdowns are His" Forte
maybe a little better.
not bad
If you live in Chicago you are a bears fan, if you move from chicago you stay a bears fan, if you move to chicago you will be a bears fan.
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