Pick Your Poison - Bears 2nd Round Pick

by Adam T on Apr 23, 2009 12:38 PM CDT

We have batted around many different scenarios with what the Bears should do with their draft now that we have Jay Cutler and don't have a first round pick. I decided to attempt to put together some sort of official WCG draft chart. I am going to use WCG's draft guru, ChiFan13's, rankings as a basis. Check out them our for a refresher. These were made prior to the Combine and workouts, so I have added any person who may have since risen to a 2nd round consideration.

We will do a similar process for OL, S/CB and DT. Then I'll pull the winners and we'll have a Best of Show vote to determine who our choice for the Bears 2nd Round pick is.

Using the top 2 from each of the past Pick Your Poison's, lets see who comes out as the fan choice for the Bears. I know we didn't cover every position. We just ran out of time, but lets run with what we have. I've added a third receiver giving how close that vote was.

Poll

Who do you want to be the Bears 2nd round and first pick?

Phil Loadholt

22 votes

Duke Robinson

12 votes

Rashad Johnson

60 votes

Patrick Chung

24 votes

Hakeem Nicks

127 votes

Brian Robiskie

161 votes

Kenny Britt

90 votes

496 votes | Poll has closed

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I Went

with Peter Chung that dude is fast and a great cover saftey i like him alot but if Robiskie or Britt do fall to us i would pick them first, just dont see that happeing though

Is it August yet???

by NOR CAL BEAR on Apr 23, 2009 12:43 PM CDT reply actions

whoops...

Patrick Chung

Is it August yet???

by NOR CAL BEAR on Apr 23, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions

thats ok

the first time I put him down as Patrick Chang.

Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!

by Adam T on Apr 23, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions

you guy are worse than Paul Tagliabue!

Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!

by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 23, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions

I'm going to take the position of best available

I think if Robiskie or Britt is there than we should go with one of them. I can never figure out which one of those two that I like better. I know that for some reason, I like them both better than Nicks, despite the fact that I see Nicks going before both on most of the mocks that I’ve seen.

Robinson would be a great value too and a good physical guard could only help our running game.
vs.
Loadholt also good value at 49, though I think the Bears are pretty good at tackle right now and I would rather see them go with Robinson if they go OL.

I know the same amount about Patrick Chung as I do Rashad Johnson. Which isn’t a lot. From what I’ve been reading, I get the impression that Rashad might be a little better in coverage then Chung and Chung might be a little better at run support? Seems like Chung or maybe both might be a little of a reach at 49 compared to the other players listed. For no more rational a reason than I spent 8 months on a job in Alabama and couldn’t stand it, I would take Chung. Plus, Rashad might have more character issues than Chung.

I’m flipping a coin between Robiskie and Britt, assuming that they’re both available at 49. Tails, Britt gets my vote.

by Fridge72 on Apr 23, 2009 1:08 PM CDT reply actions

Anyone know

how Chung did on the Wonderlic. Not sure it means anything, but I’m curious

by Fridge72 on Apr 23, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions

not sure

but he reminds me of Rodney Harrison and he is a hell of a player!!!!

Is it August yet???

by NOR CAL BEAR on Apr 23, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions

A Rodney Harrison like player would be great.

Good football smarts, hits hard, team captain, comes up big in big games and wins superbowls. Just subtract the injuries and steroids. I think that Chung might be faster than Harrison was. Never read anything about him having character issues either.

by Fridge72 on Apr 23, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions

here is a link....

with all this years top prospects results….

http://www.stltoday.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=623666

Is it August yet???

by NOR CAL BEAR on Apr 23, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions

thanks

by Fridge72 on Apr 23, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions

Not exactly sure what it means or what a good score is,

But it looks like Chung answered more questions than Rashad and did better his second time around. Rashad did a little better his first time and answered less questions.

by Fridge72 on Apr 23, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions

I Attend Most of Oregon's Home Games

and I’m not sold on Patrick. He’s hot and cold. It’s tough to judge a defensive back because as a spectator you don’t know the coverage on any particular play. In Chung’s defense he does seem to come up with big plays at timely points in the game.

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by phastphil on Apr 23, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions

Cool,

How does he look in coverage compared to run stopping? Think he is smart enough to move to FS? With the cover 2, pass coverage is a big deal for either a SS or FS.

by Fridge72 on Apr 23, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions

Tackle

Fridge- they’re pretty much set at that position, but their recent philosophy change may prompt them to take Loadholt if he falls cause he can play guard as well. With that said, if Robiskie or Nicks are not off the board (highly unlikely) the Bears need to take one of them for obvious reasons.

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by propheteer on Apr 23, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions

I agree, I think

If you mean they are pretty much set at tackle and guard, OL. I think they need to take Britt, Robiskie, or Nicks if any of them are available. Otherwise I would prefer to see them do something with DL or FS.

by Fridge72 on Apr 23, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions

Interesting that in our WR post

Nicks ran away with it, but here Robiskie is winning.

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by Adam T on Apr 23, 2009 1:28 PM CDT reply actions

I voted Nicks

I don’t know I just like Nicks I think he could be a very good receiver and fits the mold of what we need. I wouldn’t be unhappy w/ Britt or Robiskie, although I heard one or both of them have some character concerns as far as having big egos, but hey, what WR doesn’t these days?

by Sam Householder on Apr 23, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions

I think TO can take

the credit for most of the Diva behavior and Moss pre his New England days would top my list. Hell I could even go as far as throwing Michael Have You seen a bag of Coke around here Irvin in there. Maybe we could have a list of All Time Biggest Ego/Diva.

Because as far as we're concerned, there is still no team in the history of the NFL that could beat the '85 Bears.

by Ditkavsworld on Apr 23, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions

All Time Biggest Ego/Diva

Rough list off the top of my head (In no order):
-Michael Irvin
-TO
-Chad Johnson
-Keyshawn Johnson
-Joe Horn
-Randy Moss
I know I am missing some but I got to get to class.

by Sam Householder on Apr 23, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions

Was Nicks

one of the players that was falsely accused of failing a drug test?

by Fridge72 on Apr 23, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions

no

he just got fat

Is it August yet???

by NOR CAL BEAR on Apr 23, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions

I went loadholt, I would like us to be deeper

in case pace goes down, or one of the others. Not an easy choice.

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by chi-town on Apr 23, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions

It was a hard choice

I was thinking Robinson for a bit, I thought that if Pace went down, then Omiyale or Williams would slide over to the left side. Then we would have Robison to pick up the slack at guard if we needed Omiyale at tackle. Before the Pace signing, I was all for Loadholt. I think he will be a good RT.

by Fridge72 on Apr 23, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions

I think load holt would make a great guard, or tackle

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by chi-town on Apr 23, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions

I could certainly

go along with that

by Fridge72 on Apr 23, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions

now

isnt robinson a BIG guy? I mean 320+?

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by chi-town on Apr 23, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions

I think,

that he might be 330 or thereabouts. Seems he might be a bulldozer.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=58122&draftyear=2009&genpos=OG

by Fridge72 on Apr 23, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions

If Britt and Robiskie are both gone

I would like them to take Jarius Byrd before Chung or Johnson.

by luckie815 on Apr 23, 2009 1:57 PM CDT reply actions

isnt byrd

a cb?? and with the #49 pick that might be a lil to high to pick him @ he probally will still be there @ #99… just my thoughts though.

Is it August yet???

by NOR CAL BEAR on Apr 23, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions

He is a CB

But he has the potential to be our starting FS. He played the cover 2 at Oregon and his dad Gil Byrd could have him up to speed his first year.

by luckie815 on Apr 23, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions

ahhh

interesting….

Is it August yet???

by NOR CAL BEAR on Apr 23, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions

you wouldn't think

that there would be much of a learning curve or character issues with that kind of relationship.

by Fridge72 on Apr 23, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions

oops loadholt

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by chi-town on Apr 23, 2009 2:00 PM CDT reply actions

what about William Moore?

Seems like a lovie smith kinda guy! he can play both safety positions.

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by chi-town on Apr 23, 2009 2:20 PM CDT reply actions

I'm surprised

that people would want an even deeper O-line before a starting WR or FS. I’d like solid backup lineman as much as the next guy, but I’d like a starting WR first.

Not to speak for everyone, but many might’ve skipped voting for Britt or Nicks because they don’t think they’ll be there when we pick.

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Apr 23, 2009 2:24 PM CDT reply actions

I did

I picked Robiskie because I felt he would be the only one of the three to still be there at 49.

by luckie815 on Apr 23, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions

Yea that's the only reasoning I could come up with too

because you would have to think that if Britts, Nicks, and Robiskie were all available that one of the first two would have to be the pick. Not too likely but we can still dream…

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by gridiron_assassin on Apr 23, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions

I voted for Britt,

though I’m not sure he will be there at 49. I thought there was a 50/50 chance Robiskie was going to be there before Harvin’s drug results. If Harvin falls alot, I think, the addition by subtraction, means that Robiskir and Britt move up.

by Fridge72 on Apr 23, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions

the reason

I went OL besides for more depth, is that I am a Patrick Turner fan. I think he would fit well, but just like everything there is no guarantee ever w/ WR. Except for Calvin Johnson. hopefully by the time Detroit gets QB figured out he will be to old1

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by chi-town on Apr 23, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions

well the chiefs traded tony Gonzalaez to the falcons

looks like the Bears schedule just got a tad bit tougher

Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!

by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 23, 2009 2:41 PM CDT reply actions

In our favor is if Marineli

can generate a pass rush it will free up our backs. Brian especialy.

by luckie815 on Apr 23, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions

If I had my choice

If all these guys are available the pick has to be Britt. Chances are he’s gone but he is the only WO on the list who could be a true #1. I think Nicks and Robiskie would probably contribute more next year, but realistically they’re 2’s at best.

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by Hurricanes becoming Bears on Apr 23, 2009 3:33 PM CDT reply actions

No Robiske please!!

I’m not a big McShay fane but I do agree with him on this..

Most Overrated
3. Ohio State WR Brian Robiskie
Like everyone else, we are impressed by Robiskie’s route-running, instincts, attention to detail and passion for the game. However, after watching him on film, no one can convince me he will be a difference-maker in the NFL. He looks to be a serviceable No. 2 at best and does not provide anything in the return game. The fact that people are talking about him as a fringe first-round prospect is mind-boggling because there is no way we draft him on the first day.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/insider/columns/story?columnist=mcshay_todd&id=4077345

by tfrabotta on Apr 23, 2009 3:35 PM CDT reply actions

Barnes and Martin

These guys seem like players JA and Lovie like in their cover-2. If one of these 3 WRs drop to the Bears at #49 (Massaquiou, Britt, Nicks, or Robiskie) I think they should take them. Then, they can address FS and CB in the 3rd and 4th rounds.

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

by propheteer on Apr 23, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions