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Top 10 Chicago Bear Busts

No, not Bust’s in Canton at the Hall Of Fame, but busted, broke, sorry excuse for a draft pick busts.

When I look at Chicago’s draft busts I won’t necessarily disqualify a guy from bust status if he had some injury issues, but if he played, sucked, then was hurt, I’ll draw my own conclusions. Also I’ll keep my list to guys that I can remember. I’m sure there are some monumental busts from back in he day, so maybe some you long time Bears fans can enlighten us.

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10. John Allred TE – 1997 2nd round pick #38 – Four years in Chicago and 30 receptions, then 1 more year in Pittsburgh with no stats. I could see if he were a bruising blocking TE, but no. You expect more production from a guy drafted 38th overall.

9. Pat Riley DE – 1995 2nd round pick #52 – No not that Pat Riley, but even at the slick haired one’s advanced age, he could have had more production than the 1 game appeared in for the Bears 2nd round draft pick.

8. Michael Haynes DE – 2003 1st round pick #14 – Only 4 career starts in his 3 years as a Bear. The Saints gave his career one more shot before cutting him. An injury finally led to his walking away, but his release would have come either way.

7. Bob Sapp G – 1997 3rd round pick #69 – You expect more from such a physical specimen. He never played a down with the Bears in ’97, but he some how stuck around for 2 years in Minnesota, seeing action in 1 game.

6. Rashaan Salaam RB – 1995 1st round pick 21 – I think he liked the weed a little more than he liked being an NFL player. His rookie year was solid if you take away his 9 fumbles. In 1999 Cleveland and Green Bay both gave him a shot. Why?

5. Curtis Enis RB – 1998 1st round pick 5 – In 1999 he did pile up over 900 yards, but with a 3.2 average, yuck. Three years in Chicago and an injury spelled his doom, lucky for him because The Turk was coming.

4. Dan Bazuin DE – 2007 2nd round - pick #62 – I questioned this pick at the time. He made no sense at all. Two years with the Bears and a 3rd year in Houston, all with no stats to speak of. I’m beginning to wonder if he really exists.

3. David Terrell WR – 2001 1st round pick #8 – Had Terrell played up to the legend in his own mind, he’d still be playing in Chicago. 128 catches in a 4 year career isn’t bad for an undrafted free agent out of McNeese State, but for the 8th player picked from Michigan with an ego his size, it doesn’t come close to being acceptable.

2. Stan Thomas T – 1991 1st round pick #22 - Two years a Bear with 3 as an Oiler, did Houston not see him play in Chicago? Terrible.  If you saw Thomas play...  I'm sorry.

1. Cade McNown QB – 1999 1st round pick #12 – Two years a Bear, 67.7 QB rating with 19 interceptions and 6 fumbles lost in just 25 games. How Miami and San Francisco ever let him sit on their roster blows me away.

Yeah, I know, no Rex (he had his moments, and still could have some), no Benson (he was very productive in tandem with Thomas Jones and looked good in Cincy), and no Mark Bradley (he still could make some noise in K.C.).

Hopefully they’ll be no one in the 2009 draft class that could supplant one of these guys.

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I'd like to put

Dusty Dvoracek up for consideration.

Stats

I know he’s been injured and only played in one game his first year, but I don’t think he’s going to amount to much. I think his nickname should be Mr. Glass.

Because as far as we're concerned, there is still no team in the history of the NFL that could beat the '85 Bears.

by Ditkavsworld on Apr 23, 2009 1:55 PM CDT reply actions  

he

was a 3rd round pick though, wasn’t he? You expect some mid-round picks to flop out like he has.

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Apr 23, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

True

I really had high hopes for Dusty though. Who knows maybe this will be his year to stay healthy for 19 games.

by Fridge72 on Apr 24, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I live by Dusty

He has a cadillac with a tinted drivers side window, two huge dogs, and a smoking hot girlfriend. What he doesn’t have is game.

His house is up for sale anyways. I don’t know where is going, but I think he plans on being cut.

by Looney_Bucky on Apr 25, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

For those not bright enough to grasp the fundamental underpinning of a message board, please take note that "EVERYTHING I state is an OPINION."

by BLou on Apr 24, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

No Cedric Benson?

I know he played with us for a couple years and at times was somewhat productive, but having to release a 4th overall pick because he couldn’t take over the starting spot (and he was given plenty of chances), couldn’t really stay healthy and legal issues has to rate somewhere among the top 10.
I might be persuaded to include Tank Johnson somewhere on that list too because he could have been a great DT but was just a royal f@&k up.

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on Apr 23, 2009 1:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Ugh The 90s

Were such a bad time to be a Bears fan. How I ended up here after watching the Wanny years as a kid I have no idea. 5 of these players were in the Wanny era and 3 from Jauron. Ugh we were such a joke.

by Sam Householder on Apr 23, 2009 2:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Benson

HAS to be on this list.

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Apr 23, 2009 2:21 PM CDT reply actions  

I left Benson off because he looks to be starting for the Bengals, he had some issues in Chicago that led to his release, but he still may be a productive NFL player.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 23, 2009 2:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Still just because

A player is starting for another team, that doesn’t mean they weren’t a bust in Chicago.

Because as far as we're concerned, there is still no team in the history of the NFL that could beat the '85 Bears.

by Ditkavsworld on Apr 23, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yea

but he still has to be considered a Bears bust, unless you’re looking at overall careers. And even then Benson still looks to only be a marginal starter on a very bad Bengals team who can’t even average 4 ypc. A whole lot more than that would and should be expected from a 4th overall pick. And the guy was just a jackass with a very abrasive personality so that really doesn’t help in the fan’s eyes.

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on Apr 23, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

We Didn't Draft Him

We just traded a first winces for him. Shakes head

by Sam Householder on Apr 23, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still get

A little nauseous when I think of Mirer.

Even right now I am throwing up in my mouth a little

by Fridge72 on Apr 24, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

No one think Jim Mcmahon was a bust?

I know it’s blasphemous to even suggest that because he won us a super bowl, but he hardly lived up to his potential because he was always injured. Add that to the fact that he went and played for the cheeseheads and I think he should be on that list, and if not then at least in the top 15.

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on Apr 23, 2009 3:34 PM CDT reply actions  

i wouldn't call him a bust

but I wouldn’t call him a great pick either.

This is the part where I wait for GeoMak’s reply

Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!

by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 23, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh really

how so?

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on Apr 23, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

he led the greatest team of all time to a super bowl victory

does this make him great? no. does that mean that he’s not a bust. yes.

rex grossman belongs there before mcmahon ever does.

by tempchad on Apr 23, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, it's disputable

McMahon was a top five pick who was often injured even during the ’85 season. other than that, he was mediocre at best and his career lasted a year longer than grossmans in chicago.

Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!

by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 23, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

none of which remotely classifies him as a bust

busts don’t lead teams to the super bowl championship. say what you want about the defense, mcmahon was the leader of that team.

by tempchad on Apr 23, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not disputable

(Superbowl Ring > Bust) The math doesn’t lie

by Fridge72 on Apr 24, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

He won a Super Bowl

Nuf said

If God had wanted man to play soccer, he wouldn't have given us arms.- Mike Ditka

by Hurricanes becoming Bears on Apr 23, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mcmahon wasn't a bust at all in my opinion.

He didn’t start having rough times until that dick head from GB slammed him 2 minutes after the play was dead. That really pissed me off. He did have some help at the receiver position with Willie.

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Apr 23, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry,

but you get a superbowl ring like the punky QB did and you are out of the bust discussion.

I posted a link to a McMahon interview on the score last night in the Den today. McMahon is crazy, but not a bust

by Fridge72 on Apr 24, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

What kind of retarded, idiot, jerk, would call McMahon a bust?

Someone that is probably not old enough to have actually witnessed the 85 Bears. That is the only thing I can think of.

Passion For The Game, Loyal To The Name, Chicago Bears, I Trust In Thee, Standing Strong Since 1983.

by Haightminow on Apr 24, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Doesn't make sense to me either

Seems ifuwannacrownem thinks it’s disputable

by Fridge72 on Apr 24, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

NO SHIT! REALLY? I DIDN'T KNOW I WROTE THAT.

I’m entitled to my damn opinion. You think he’s not a bust that’s fine with you. But that doesn’t mean other people don’t think he’s a bust.. McMahon never lived up to the status for which he was drafted, therefore it’s disputable.

Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!

by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 24, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of course you are entitled to your opinion,

It’s yours after all. It happens to be wrong this time. So own it.

by Fridge72 on Apr 24, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

My opinion is wrong?

join a friggin dabate team. you’re starting to sound like my ex-girlfriend

Rachel, Is that you?

Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!

by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 24, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only thing that hurts more

Is going to espn and looking back at the players drafted after these and other Bears “quality” picks and saying, “Damn!!!!!, I knew that guy was gonna be at least good, maybe not hall of fame but a solid starter” personally very tired of Bears and other organizations going “against” the grain just to try to show other scouts and tv personalities up by finding “diamonds in the ruff” or reaching for talent and telling the fans the said player was “best athlete/player available” with all the draft coverage and everything, not so sure fans dont know as much about some players as the teams that draft em do

by Chisportfan on Apr 23, 2009 3:41 PM CDT reply actions  

and stan thomas was not a ditka guy

learn your bears history. the pick was forced on him by guess who.

by tempchad on Apr 23, 2009 3:52 PM CDT reply actions  

that is the moment when ditkas fate with bears was sealed

i honestly thing that if satan would have just signed marshall and then let ditka and his guys run his draft ditka would have retired as the bears coach.

by tempchad on Apr 24, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think...

Many people thought Cedric was going to be a bust pick.
He was a stud at Texas, but he wasn’t the hammer we thought he would be.
He was a bust, and as a thug, got his second chance with the Cinncy Thugals.

by Bearsguy34 on Apr 23, 2009 5:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Any top 10 bust list MUST include John Thierry

For those not bright enough to grasp the fundamental underpinning of an message board, please take note that "EVERYTHING I state is an OPINION."

by BLou on Apr 23, 2009 7:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep, we have definitely had our fair share of major busts throughout the years...

and who the hell is Dan Bazuin. LOL If we weren’t Bears fans we really wouldn’t know, right.

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Apr 23, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes... how could he be left off this list?

Especially when some of the guys on the list weren’t even 1st rounders.

Also… I don’t know how this one was left out: Russell Davis. 2nd round pick in ’99, after we chose Cade McNown in the 1st. Davis was cut after 1 season.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 23, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Russel Davis was a failure in Chicago, but had a 9 year NFL career, so I left him off the list

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 24, 2009 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I considered Thirry, but he played 9 years in the NFL and had 33.5 sacks, not impressive, but somehow he started 42 games in last 4 years

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 24, 2009 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Grossman wasn't really a bust

He could go out there and give you TD’s, but it came with a lot of INT’s which did not put him in a good place with Bear fans

Movement to make Jeff Samardzija our closer!

by Chanman25 on Apr 24, 2009 6:56 AM CDT reply actions  

i Agree

Anyone who has even been considered League MVP should not be labeled a bust.

Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!

by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 24, 2009 7:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

grossman was never considered for league mvp

for 4 games he looked like it but after that there was no talk about mvp.

by tempchad on Apr 24, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes there was. after those four games yeah, I'm talking about during them

Before the Arizona fiasco, he was strongly considered the favorite to be league MVP.

“Rex Grossman right now is the MVP of this league!" – Sean Salisbury 10/2/2006

I think, at some point right before training camp, Rex Grossman had an arm transplant from Dan Fouts." – Peter King after Week 2

"The Bears have a legitimate top-level quarterback in Rex Grossman" – Vic Carruci, 10/1

"He has some Brett Favre in him, but he’s a winner." – Jerome Bettis 10/1

"He’s seems like a Brett Favre kind of guy." – Chris Collinsworth 10/1

Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!

by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 24, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, I remember that half way through the season....

they were still talking about Rex, the MVP.

Passion For The Game, Loyal To The Name, Chicago Bears, I Trust In Thee, Standing Strong Since 1983.

by Haightminow on Apr 24, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

no they weren't

it died that day in arizona

by tempchad on Apr 24, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I remember thinking that performance had to be a once in a lifetime bomb

unfortunately for him and Bears fans he tried to repeat it a couple times.

The other thing in that game, which I prefer to remember instead, was how Urlacher took over the 2nd half. Arguably one of his greatest performances as a Bear. At least that’s how I try to remember it.

by Fridge72 on Apr 24, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow 10/1? sounds like right after the first 4 games

the ones i mentioned. please keep reading my post

“but after that there was no talk”

by tempchad on Apr 24, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah I know what you said

Please re-read my post

“Anyone who has even been considered League MVP should not be labeled a bust.”

Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!

by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 24, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

The bottom line is..

Rex Grossman was no bust.

Passion For The Game, Loyal To The Name, Chicago Bears, I Trust In Thee, Standing Strong Since 1983.

by Haightminow on Apr 24, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

great point

“Rex grossman is the single greatest bust in the history of quarterbacks” – george halas’s ghost 1/1/2009

this is fun

by mike b on Apr 25, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

what team does grossman play for right now?

first round pick unsigned 6 years later? yeah. bust.

a lot of people are considered league mvp for a few minutes. using that as a determining factor might be the dumbest thing ever said on the internet.

by mike b on Apr 25, 2009 12:26 AM CDT reply actions  

first round pick unsigned 6 years later? yeah. bust.

If that’s your reasoning for an argument, then you can state the same case for Jim McMahon seeing that he was picked in the top five and he was also unsugned 6 years later.

Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!

by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 25, 2009 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

that's the reasoning

along with his poor play. the guy is not good, and isn’t even in the league anymore. i don’t know what’s not to get.

by mike b on Apr 25, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

huh?

traded in 89 and signed with the eagles in 90. how was he unsigned in 88? grossman’s career may be over, mcmahon’s was 14 years and 2 superbowls.

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by mike b on Apr 25, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

a lot of people are considered league mvp for a few minutes.

do you have any examples, or are you just pulling facts out of your ass?

Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!

by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 25, 2009 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

now you're worrid about links?

you realy think every player who wins the mvp has been the only player all year to be mentioned for it at any point? you already proved once its not the case.

by mike b on Apr 25, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't say Rex was a bust

But he was not reliable. Was not a leader. Did not have any killer instinct. Now if it wasn’t for 2006 year..then he would be a bust, as it stands now he just wasn’t good.

by Chitownproduct on Apr 25, 2009 7:27 AM CDT reply actions  

how

is a first round pick who wasn’t good, and isn’t even playing a few years later NOT a bust?

by mike b on Apr 25, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haynes and Grossman in combination should be high on that list.

Remember we traded the #4 pick for the 14 and 22 which got us Haynes and Grossman. Grossman alone does not belong on that list, but considering who we could have got with that #4 pick, what a terrible first round.

by Looney_Bucky on Apr 25, 2009 5:52 PM CDT reply actions  

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