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2009 NFL Draft Round 4 - Open Thread

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Let us see if the Bears actually address the spots we need.  Those of wide receiver and safety.

2008 NFL Draft- Bears Selections
Round Pick Player Pos. College
3 68 Jarron Gilbert DE San Jose St.
3 99 Juaquin Iglesias
 WR
 Oklahoma
4 105 Henry Melton
 DE
 Texas
4 119 D.J. Moore
 CB
 Vanderbilt
5 140


5 154


6 190


7 246


7 251

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Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!

by Adam T on Apr 26, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

3 more picks

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 11:15 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You're my hero for this.

It was like walking underwater there the last few minutes.

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by cwyers on Apr 26, 2009 11:15 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I know

I felt the same way.

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's still

riding the Clemons train!

by Charlie129 on Apr 26, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OH

so NOW Journey didn’t lie to you…

by Charlie129 on Apr 26, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ouch

Gonna have that song in my head the rest of the day. DAMN YOU!!!

by JohnPaul on Apr 26, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I know

ChiFan did that to me last night…

by Charlie129 on Apr 26, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey now

Calling me David Haugh will get you banned.

Clemons could be had later on. We can get Duke now.

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we should take both

and Matthew Stafford. And Peyton Manning

by Orval Overall on Apr 26, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That the Bears looked at?

Clemons, Bruton, Spillman….

by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 11:16 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cowboys take a QB

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 11:16 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Stafford being interviewed on NFLN

He’s gonna be a bust….No OLine=many many hits. He’s Joey Harrington in the making.

by aznsensation on Apr 26, 2009 11:18 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, he does have that busty smell

… and that deer-in-the-headlights look

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

harrington

minus the piano skills

by tim815 on Apr 26, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Angelo is having a strong day so far

I have a hunch Angelo looks linebacker at #105.

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by BLou on Apr 26, 2009 11:18 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Really?

I hope not.

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too early

OLB will come in the 5th or 6th rounds.

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by propheteer on Apr 26, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Iglesias

I like him because of his production, but we’ll have to see if he can consistently gets off the line in press coverage. I certainly think he’s better than some of the other WRs taken before him.

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

by propheteer on Apr 26, 2009 11:18 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Iglesias is a developmental project

I won’t expect him to contribute much as a rookie. But I really like the pick at #99.

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by BLou on Apr 26, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

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by BLou on Apr 26, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I liked him before the draft, because he made big plays.

Big plays are my measuring stick…

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

true

And just production in college overall. Certain guys are just footballers, and they know how to make plays no matter where they are. I hope this dude is like that.

by JohnPaul on Apr 26, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cheifs go CB

2 more picks

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 11:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

DJ Moore

Sounds like he’s dropping because he’s got marginal size-speed-strength … but at this point in the draft, with his instincts, he’d be a great Nickel guy.

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 11:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Daniel Manning is the nickel back

We need a bonafide Safety and somebody to replace Nathan Vasher at Cornerback.

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by BLou on Apr 26, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and he might not be the guy.

He doesn’t seem like a good fit as a Cover 2 corner.

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not just yet.....

Vasher hasnt been healthy over the last two years id give him on year before we let him go this guy was known as the “interceptor” he had 16 picks in his first three seasons if hes healthy this year look for him to bounce back hes only 27 so its not like hes on his last legs i do like the pick of the corner however i think hell help out on special teams and nickel.
Iglesias hopefully devolps but i do see chicago siging a journeymen or Plaxico if he isnt going to jail and depending on what goodell does

by Bear Lovin 21 on Apr 26, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Curtis Taylor

The guy seems like Mike Brown part 2. Unfortunately that also means the injury risk. But I think of the safeties still on the board he is the best when healthy and the guy certainly has size at 6’3" and 220

Derrick Rose-2009 ROTY Tyrus Thomas-2009 MIP...hope I'm at least half right

by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Apr 26, 2009 11:20 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

because of position

but he is the #1 guard available

by Orval Overall on Apr 26, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why were other Guards

taken before him then?

dont think he was looked at by the Bears so not expecting any O line considering they went FA this season…

by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Next pick has to be a secondary player IMO

"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."

by Ugh It Live! on Apr 26, 2009 11:21 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gruden looked normal

Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Beer in one hand - brat in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride

by icarr0331 on Apr 26, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Finger thing was perfect

Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Beer in one hand - brat in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride

by icarr0331 on Apr 26, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes!

Best part was watching Coughlin look like he was going to walk away in disgust.

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just shocked

that Robinson is still available.

by JohnPaul on Apr 26, 2009 11:22 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

1 more pick to go... Duke still on the board

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 11:23 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

we're in decent shape now

Either we can get Duke, or else our choice of the remaining safeties.

by JohnPaul on Apr 26, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Angelo is going to pick a surprise name at 105

None of the top safeties and cornerbacks available strike as a good fit. A small college name upcoming? Or a linebacker??

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by BLou on Apr 26, 2009 11:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If you're right

I’m thoroughly convinced you are Jerry Angelo.

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's only been 3 guards drafted so far...

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 11:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

TRADE DOWN!

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 11:26 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

trade down chicago bears

that’s the jerry angelo theme song

by tim815 on Apr 26, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope

he doesn’t surprise us too much.

by Charlie129 on Apr 26, 2009 11:26 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

for the 105th pick the Chicago Bears pick.....

Icarr0331….The fastest waterboy in the draft!!!

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by icarr0331 on Apr 26, 2009 11:26 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

On the clock... and so is Duke

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 11:26 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Duke sucks

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As long as its not a safety from Duke

Derrick Rose-2009 ROTY Tyrus Thomas-2009 MIP...hope I'm at least half right

by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Apr 26, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Broncos pick is in

only a few minutes away

Derrick Rose-2009 ROTY Tyrus Thomas-2009 MIP...hope I'm at least half right

by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Apr 26, 2009 11:26 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It'll be a "J" first name

Jarron, Juaquin, and J____?

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 11:28 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Too bad Jason Williams is gone

Derrick Rose-2009 ROTY Tyrus Thomas-2009 MIP...hope I'm at least half right

by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Apr 26, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pick is in

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 11:28 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WTF? Another DE

We hired the God of D-line coaches so we didn’t have to rebuild the d-line completely and now were drafting 2 des

Derrick Rose-2009 ROTY Tyrus Thomas-2009 MIP...hope I'm at least half right

by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Apr 26, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blag... blah... blah

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 11:29 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

MELTON BIATCH!!!

Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!

by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 26, 2009 11:29 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Angelo you dick

"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."

by Ugh It Live! on Apr 26, 2009 11:29 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There's that

surprise we were all waiting for…

by Charlie129 on Apr 26, 2009 11:30 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

bah

would of been there in 5 I think…or thats what draftniks said….

by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 11:30 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nothing funny to say....

I’m done watching this draft.

by Sklz711 on Apr 26, 2009 11:30 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

A whopping 4 sacks in two seasons

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 11:30 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Great

He averaged1.5 tackles a game..monster

by tfrabotta on Apr 26, 2009 11:30 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Henry Melton ---- Bold...and I like it

Angelo is addressing a defensive line that has sucked for two years. I LIKE this pick. Melton can be what Mark ANderson was supposed to be.

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by BLou on Apr 26, 2009 11:30 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

what about their 3rd rd pick then?

Why do we need 2 more DE’s? Is Mark Anderson moving to safety?

"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."

by Ugh It Live! on Apr 26, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mark Anderson is in danger of being cut

Anderson was a one-year wonder. Adewale Ogunleye is insanely overrated. Alex Brown is the only defensive end on the roster that is decent, and even he can’t be classified as great.

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by BLou on Apr 26, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hear

he has the “potential” to be a real “beast”..whatever that means….

by Charlie129 on Apr 26, 2009 11:30 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Viewed as having a lot of upside and very coachable

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by BLou on Apr 26, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

that’s what I’m hearing too…maybe a good choice?? Question…??

by Charlie129 on Apr 26, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why say something funny

this draft has to be a practical joke.

"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka

by EricEmpire on Apr 26, 2009 11:30 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I guess Marinelli has more pull than we thought

or now that Lovie is calling the plays, he is making sure they load up.

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by Adam T on Apr 26, 2009 11:31 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

good point

forgot about HotRod

"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."

by Ugh It Live! on Apr 26, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you want a DE

Why not Sidbury?? He has a second round grade! Frickin stupid…

by tfrabotta on Apr 26, 2009 11:32 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Because Jerry Angelo has his own scouts...

…and doesn’t need to buy Mel Kipers’ draft guide? Again, we went through this last year with Mendenhall/Forte.

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by cwyers on Apr 26, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

NFL General Managers don’t pick according to what the Mel Kiper Draft Guide says.

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by BLou on Apr 26, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only thing I can find cant even find highlights on him

04/20/2009 – A converted running back, Texas’ Henry Melton has played defensive end only two seasons. He might have to switch positions again when he gets to the NFL. Some 3-4 teams are looking at the former Grapevine product at outside linebacker. He worked out for the Cowboys there last week. “I haven’t played a lot of linebacker since high school,” Melton said in a telephone interview. “I’m a pretty athletic guy, good in space, so that’s what a lot of teams are looking at.” Besides the Cowboys, Melton has visited with the Colts, Bears, Vikings, Buccaneers, Packers and 49ers. He is projected as a sixth-round choice. – Charean Williams, Star-Telegram

04/20/2009 – A converted running back, Texas’ Henry Melton has played defensive end only two seasons. He might have to switch positions again when he gets to the NFL. Some 3-4 teams are looking at the former Grapevine product at outside linebacker. He worked out for the Cowboys there last week. “I haven’t played a lot of linebacker since high school,” Melton said in a telephone interview. “I’m a pretty athletic guy, good in space, so that’s what a lot of teams are looking at.” Besides the Cowboys, Melton has visited with the Colts, Bears, Vikings, Buccaneers, Packers and 49ers. He is projected as a sixth-round choice. – Charean Williams, Star-Telegram

by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 11:32 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

so nice, posted twice?

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by Adam T on Apr 26, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

sorry my mouse is sensitive :(

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by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Both him and Gilbert

were said to be projected 3-4 scheme guys…is there something that we don’t know about Lovie’s plan this year?

"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."

by Ugh It Live! on Apr 26, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He just wants pass rushers...

he always wants pass rushers…

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he is redreaming

so he can have us taking Melton.

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by Adam T on Apr 26, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just wanted to

make sure he was okay and not on the floor…!!

by Charlie129 on Apr 26, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK

just checking! I think Melton might be okay.

by Charlie129 on Apr 26, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he'll be alright

He needs some coaching. Marinelli is our DL coach. Therefore, I think he’ll be ok.

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like you said in your later post,

we have to wait and see what JA does, or we WILL end up looking like asses! I guess we need to be patient and see where the dart flies next!

by Charlie129 on Apr 26, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

character risk too?

Texas officials looking into defensive end’s arrestComment Email Print Share Associated Press
AUSTIN, Texas — Texas junior defensive end Henry Melton was arrested and charged with driving while intoxicated early Friday.

Melton was pulled over in the popular Sixth Street entertainment district about 2:30 a.m. after officers noticed his truck driving in an unsafe manner, Austin police spokeswoman Laura Albrecht said.

In the arrest report, officer Steven Martinez said Melton failed a field sobriety test, smelled strongly of alcohol, had bloodshot eyes, staggered, used profanity and was insulting during his interview.

Melton also told the officer he had nothing to drink, Martinez reported.

Melton was charged with DWI and taken to the Travis County Jail. He was released at 8:15 a.m. after posting a $1,500 personal recognizance bond, according to jail records.

Texas athletic spokesman John Bianco said school officials were aware of the arrest and were looking into it. It was not immediately clear if Melton has an attorney.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2889986

by Orval Overall on Apr 26, 2009 11:34 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

maybe we are going

to move him to LB then. he could learn from the best…

by SouthSidePolack on Apr 26, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This isn't good

I thought JA learned his lesson with Texas players and DUIs.

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by propheteer on Apr 26, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

depends on gilbert

if gilbert plays DT, then this pick of a DE makes a little more sense

by No It All on Apr 26, 2009 11:36 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Angelo, Lovie and Marinelli are clearly focused on beefing up the pass rush and gaining edge speed

This is an indictment of Adewale Ogunleye, Mark Anderson and what we lack at the outside linebacker spot opposite Lance Briggs.

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by BLou on Apr 26, 2009 11:36 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jamar Williams/Hillenmeyer

"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."

by Ugh It Live! on Apr 26, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jamar Williams sucks and Hillenmeyer is a journeyman type role player

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by BLou on Apr 26, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll give you Hillenmeyer

but what gives you reason to say Williams sucks?

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by Ugh It Live! on Apr 26, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Bears obviously have an idea...

…of retooling the D-line, and after the defense’s showing last year you can’t argue that it’s unnecessary.

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by cwyers on Apr 26, 2009 11:36 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hell no

And if Jerry can get Duke or Clemons with our next pick, we all look like assholes for doubting him. At least for the short term.

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Duke

What’s the fascination with this guy, and why is he still on the board?

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by propheteer on Apr 26, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Duke Robinson?

We need a guard. Garza sucks. The end :)

But honestly, I don’t know why he’s still on the board.

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A mauler?

His strength is run-blocking correct?

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by propheteer on Apr 26, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Duke?

Yes.

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't mind Lang either -

can play guard for now, right tackle later.

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by MPG on Apr 26, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They have to take a S

there is not way they can think Bullocks and Campbell are the answer.

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by Adam T on Apr 26, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clearly the Bears are not enamored with the available safeties

I’d rather get somebody who projects one day to being a decent Safety as opposed to drafting a guy who might not make it out of training camp.

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by BLou on Apr 26, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Angelo's drafted a lot of safeties in rounds 4 & 5

Unfortunately…. most of them weren’t good enough

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chris Harris!

Just bein a smartass :)

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

easy to make fun of JA for this

but assuming one of these two work out + ronron magic = we have a D again

by SouthSidePolack on Apr 26, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Strategy & tactics

Even if Melton is a great find, this is like JA’s Mitchell flirtation at 49: It’s a dumb PICK. You wanna pick your finds just a bit before where they’re slotted, not several rounds before where they’re slotted.

Scouting isn’t drafting.

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 11:37 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay, but you're grading the Bears based upon YOUR slotting...

…and presuming that you have a better idea of what other teams are going to do.

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by cwyers on Apr 26, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not really

I don’t have any idea where these players should go. But when a guy isn’t even ranked by ESPN and you take him at the 105 pick, odds are you’re reaching.

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN isn't God

Marquis Colston wasn’t ranked either.

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right.

And what round was he drafted in?

Like I said: I’m not talking about Scouting, but Drafting.

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Either that or ESPN missed a guy.

They do have fewer resources than NFL teams in play here.

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by cwyers on Apr 26, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're also talking about the same company that employs

Steven A. Smith/Scoop Jackson and Jim Rome as “experts”

"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."

by Ugh It Live! on Apr 26, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

And Jemele Hill.

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

LOOK AT ME, I’M STEPHEN A. SMITH. BEING OBNOXIOUS HAS GOTTEN ME PAID

by NittanyCub on Apr 26, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But when it comes to the draft board

ESPN hires Scouts Inc. to put together its scouting report. Available to Insiders.

These guys could be wrong, but they’re not jacklegs.

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's ironic

Thanks for pointing that out in public though, because here’s what they say about Melton:

A former running back, Melton display excellent lower-body strength that gives him the ability to stack and shed when holding the edge against the run. He also flashes the quickness and natural ability to bend that could allow him to develop into an effective pass-rusher.

Hmm….

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Melton is exactly the sort of player the Bears love to draft.

A guy who can contribute on defense AND special teams, and a guy with raw athletic talent who’s unfinished and can be coached to play their way.

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by cwyers on Apr 26, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

And we know how Jerry hates bad character guys. If Jerry drafted him, he must be ok.

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not that it makes him a bad guy,

but Melton got a DWI charge two years ago.

by NittanyCub on Apr 26, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I realize that

And that’s my point. He screwed up, and Jerry doesn’t like bad character guys. His interview and private workout must have gone well if Jerry took him.

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

scouts isn't even the best talent evaluator

I like rivals more…i think they’re a bit more accurate

by aznsensation on Apr 26, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guarantee you

that EITHER ONE knows more than I do.

I’m just interested in how to manage the decision-making.

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll take the word of professional NFL front office people over talking heads on a sports network

For those not bright enough to grasp the fundamental underpinning of a message board, please take note that "EVERYTHING I state is an OPINION."

by BLou on Apr 26, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scouts Inc. are professionals.

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but they don't have the resources of NFL teams.

There aren’t as many of them. They don’t get private workouts. Etc.

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by cwyers on Apr 26, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's true

But there’s wisdom in crowds and idiocy in crowds. Neither is a guarantee of success.

Which is why I’m back to the gamesmanship of the draft. Are you drafting in a way to maximize your chance of getting lucky?

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me personally

I visit all kinds of draftnik sites to see what everyone says….and with Melton the earliest “draft grade” I had seen was 5th with other listing him as a 6th maybe 7th….but eh its over hes a Bear…gotta hope he plays hard and pans out….

by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Mitchell got drafted BEFORE the Bears picked...

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Way I look at it is...

…MOST of the players drafted today are NOT going to be significant players. So you do your scouting and find the guys you like, but then you study the game of drafting and you don’t fall in love with your own opinions. Odds are bad for any of these guys becoming stars, so you focus on trying to acquire people where you can get them and hoping to assemble the best group you can get.

Then you hope to get lucky.

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pass defense

starts with a good pass rush, hopefully these two guys will provide that.

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

by propheteer on Apr 26, 2009 11:37 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Didnt Biggs

say that the Bears were looking at him as a DE? thought I saw a his blog post about the private work out they had with Melton….

by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 11:38 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep

DE, not DT. I’ve seen him before, he’ll be a DE.

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another scouting report

from scott wright

http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/de/Henry-Melton.php

plays special teams and a DE….had him as a :mid round" pick as well….

by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 11:42 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

AH

thanks for posting your link so it pops up in a new window…I hate the links that take me out of WCG!!

by Charlie129 on Apr 26, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was just going to post it

but thought i put it in a link didnt want to get in trouble….

by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still waiting...

for my slow satellite to pull the page up! Didn’t load in Firefox, so had to pull it up in IE.

by Charlie129 on Apr 26, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ops

sorry …

here it is

Strengths:
Extremely athletic…Pretty good speed and quickness…Explosive with a burst…Great balance and agility…Does a terrific job in pursuit and closes fast…Good strength…Great special teamer…Has a lot of upside.

Weaknesses:
Inexperienced…Marginal instincts and awareness…Still has a long way to go when it comes to technique…Not an elite pass rusher…Does not always use proper leverage…Aggressiveness?…Some character issues.

Notes:
Was a Top 100 recruit coming out of high school according to Rivals…Uncle, Ray Crockett, played 14 years in the NFL with Detroit, Denver & Kansas City and was a captain for the Broncos back-to-back Super Bowl teams…Began his college career as a running back and carried the ball 132 times for 625 yards (4.7 avg.) and 16 touchdowns in 2005 and 2006…Moved to defensive end in 2007 and took over a starting job in 2008…Served a three game suspension in 2007 after he was arrested and charged with driving while intoxicated…Was overshadowed by Brian Orakpo but is a fine pro prospect in his own right…Isn’t a finished product but improved by leaps and bounds as a senior and has all of the physical tools that you look for…Underrated.

by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oooh pedigree!

Scores bigtime w/ Angelo

"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."

by Ugh It Live! on Apr 26, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's okay

not your fault! I did finally end up getting it to load. Thank you though. You guys are great here…I have learned so much! Thanks for all the info!!

by Charlie129 on Apr 26, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he's our new FB! LOL

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He played RB and FB for Texas

He could do it, no joke.

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like

he could be versatile…

by Charlie129 on Apr 26, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is

But he’ll probably be a DE, let’s be honest.

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We can always

DREAM…can’t we? LOL

by Charlie129 on Apr 26, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never

doubt you…no laughs here… :)

by Charlie129 on Apr 26, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Melton- a project for the future
Isn’t a finished product but improved by leaps and bounds as a senior and has all of the physical tools that you look for…Underrated.

Looks like he’ll provide good special teams play as well.

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

by propheteer on Apr 26, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And we have Rod Marinelli

No better coach to help Melton make that jump.

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate saying

“he’s got potential”…but I think he probably does…with Marinelli’s help. I agree with you ChiFan.

by Charlie129 on Apr 26, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Considering the holes they had

I thought it was a decent trade….wasnt thrilled with it but hey at least they didnt draft massaquio….

by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

frak!

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Apr 26, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sucks :)

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They need a guard

And Duke is the best still available. Omiyale has only started one game, Beekman needs to take over for Kruetz eventually, and Garza is way overrated

by tommite622 on Apr 26, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DUKE OR LOUIS!

clap, clap, clap-clap-clap

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 11:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Need a FS

Clemons and Bruton still there

by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 11:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah... we need a FS.

But… are those guys even starting caliber? Meanwhile… you’ve got one of the top ranked guards right there on the board.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Duke.

They were already replacing Beekman at LG… and trying to replace Garza at RG…

Reports from this whole offseason were that we wanted more size at Guard. Of course… because our guards got pushed around big time in short yardage.

Take Duke… or a comparable player.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 11:56 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So...Louis Murphy?

Brian McRae's 5 o'clock shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Apr 26, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nah

I was thining Murphy

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by Adam T on Apr 26, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Making Hester our most

experienced receiver.

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by Adam T on Apr 26, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

5 more picks... New Orleans is two of them.

Saints secondary sucks.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 11:58 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Chargers just drafted a guy from Canada

lol

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Apr 26, 2009 11:59 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They're among the best drafting teams in the biz... don;t laugh at them

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not laughing at them...

I’m laughing at Canada.

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Apr 26, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

seriously though seen that guy as a big sleeper pick in most draftnik sites…

by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DE picks

I think JA and Lovie, really want the speed pass rush coming from the ends. That is what make or breaks the Tampa-2 system. Without that pass rush, the cover 2 gets picked apart. The problem is that Tampa-2 sux and a good QB will pick it apart regardless of pass rush. I hate Tampa-2!

by Bears-Bullsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It didn;t suck in 2005 and 2006

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

2006

The year we went to the superbowl was kind of a fluke. Our d kind of overachieved, and that was the year hester had 6 returned TD’s.

by Bears-Bullsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Broncos take S David Bruton

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

bruton to denver

there goes 1 safety

by tim815 on Apr 26, 2009 12:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Who's the Lions take in a blink of an eye?

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by icarr0331 on Apr 26, 2009 12:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Who was that receiver out of Abilene Christian?

I liked his hands and would be a good late pick up I think.

by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Apr 26, 2009 12:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Johnny Knox

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Apr 26, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He'll be ours... no other scouts are allowed at that school

except for Bears scouts.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank God Bruton off the board

that had Angelo written all over it..

by tfrabotta on Apr 26, 2009 12:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey

Norte Dame rules….

I liked him but eh…

by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lions take a DT

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sammie Lee Hill

from the powerhouse Stillman

by tfrabotta on Apr 26, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DJ Moore

I don’t care if they don’t need him, he could have been a first rounder

by tommite622 on Apr 26, 2009 12:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that would be an awesome pick

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Apr 26, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who is he?

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DJ Moore, CB Vanderbilt

1st/2nd round prospect, still on the board. NO might take him though.

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Apr 26, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does ESPN really think

I care what Michael Smith thinks about the draft?

Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!

by Adam T on Apr 26, 2009 12:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

But why

are you watching ESPN anyway…NFL Network is better IMO.

by Charlie129 on Apr 26, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah

I know…but look what you get for free…LOL…just kidding!!

by Charlie129 on Apr 26, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oops..

sorry, thought you linked up to ESPN…my bad…

by Charlie129 on Apr 26, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

NFLN is much better. I like Mayock quite a bit.

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wanna know...

I can never remember the guys name on the network who has the really bad dislocated pinky…it grosses me out to watch him pointing on the board. I wish they would tell him to use his other finger!! Or put him on the left side of the desk so we didn’t have to see that pinky!!

by Charlie129 on Apr 26, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES...

Thank you…I like him, just can’t watch from the arms down, that’s all!!

by Charlie129 on Apr 26, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No.

You don’t even know any of these players, boss :)

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

but neither does Smith.

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by Adam T on Apr 26, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lmao

Very true

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

please dear lord

someone stop jerry from picking like jerry jones and the moron in oakland al davis

by Chisportfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

smith

if michael smith likes em then they are gonna tank

by Chisportfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Chip Vaughn gone

Opening the door for Clemons.

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 12:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sainsts take S Chip Vaughn...

figured they take a DB

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

no way

JA is not drafting a FS with speed….. one it makes sense, and two he is from a school everyone knows that isnt texas or oklahoma…… not gonna happen

by Chisportfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He LOVES players from Florida

So it could be Murphy.

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cowboys are sucking this draft

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by Adam T on Apr 26, 2009 12:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

crazy friggin arms on that guy, sick. disgusting

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I always thought that pick

I saw on the internet was photoshopped.

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by Adam T on Apr 26, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm used to Super Cuts.

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by Adam T on Apr 26, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ugh

that freak….course wouldnt say that to his face….

by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

just plain

disturbing….. but oddly….. are his testicles proportionately smaller than normal?

by Chisportfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so Duke Robinson isn't on Mel's big board?

Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!

by Adam T on Apr 26, 2009 12:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I mean best available.

Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!

by Adam T on Apr 26, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But... Murphy is...

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bucs picked? Did Dallas trade?

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trade this pick

Murphy and Duke, and Moore and clemons still on the board. Jerry will trade this pick for 10 7th rounders

by tommite622 on Apr 26, 2009 12:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There's probably a future pro bowler still available

and no one — not Angelo certainly — has any idea who it is.

by Orval Overall on Apr 26, 2009 12:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Uh-huh!

Chris Clemons or Louis Murphy :)

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Irregardless isn't a word, Gruden.

No wonder you’re out of a job.

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 12:11 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

+1 "irregardless"

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

I hate when people use that word

Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Beer in one hand - brat in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride

by icarr0331 on Apr 26, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Josh McDaniels is a tool

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 12:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

gonna love it when

he runs that whole franchise into the tank

by Chisportfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually

Jason Williams – LB, TCU

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 12:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you mean

Jason Williams from westtern mich?

by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TCU

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

dammit

NFLN has gone to commercial everytime the Bears have been on the clock lol

by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 12:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

espn

may as well be. All they do is have fights between McShay and Kiper/Jaws. No real analysis.

by Orval Overall on Apr 26, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

MOORE MOORE MOORE

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Apr 26, 2009 12:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

absolute steal

i think like this pick more than I like Bowman last year, and that’s saying a lot.

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Apr 26, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get em Jaws

Rip McShay a new one.

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by Adam T on Apr 26, 2009 12:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

clemons

or an OL prefer C pleasssssse

by Chisportfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pick is in

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Here we go pick is in

 get ready to be pissed

by tfrabotta on Apr 26, 2009 12:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

bah

both are on commerical lol

by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 12:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

John Parker Wilson

has such a gay haircut.

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Apr 26, 2009 12:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

MOORE!

YES SIR!

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 12:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

come on baby

60 days till i come home…make my Week!!

by Chitownproduct on Apr 26, 2009 12:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

DJ Moore!

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yesssssssssssss

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Apr 26, 2009 12:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

moore

it is official

-Jmac

by isuarch80 on Apr 26, 2009 12:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

D.J. Moore CB Vanderbilt

Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!

by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 26, 2009 12:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We love Vanderbilt.... hope we have scouts in other friggin places too.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

think its cheaper

to just leave them in tenn….

not thrilled with this pick…

by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We do

Texas and Oklahoma :)

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are we rebuiding Vandy

in Chicago?

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by Adam T on Apr 26, 2009 12:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Why not we did it for Tampa

Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Beer in one hand - brat in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride

by icarr0331 on Apr 26, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

MOORE!

The Mugsy Bogues of proffessional football

by tommite622 on Apr 26, 2009 12:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good pick, Jerry

I like it.

THINK WITH YOUR DIPSTICK!

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 12:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

SEE

We just needed to keep the faith…

by Charlie129 on Apr 26, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm thinking Moore is like Everson Walls

I’m happy with this pick.

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 12:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cutler, Hillenmeyer, Chris Williams, Earl Bennett

and now Moore. Angelo loves him some Vanderbily players, thats for sure.

by Orval Overall on Apr 26, 2009 12:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Vandy North

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

vandy

the perenial national power strikes again

by Chisportfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

is he going to stay a CB...

or are we gonna convert him to Safety?

"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka

by EricEmpire on Apr 26, 2009 12:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

heh

"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka

by EricEmpire on Apr 26, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's small, not physical, and not strong against the run

so no, probably not a safety.

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol 182 pounds?

We need to get our guy to Portillos or something.

by Chitownproduct on Apr 26, 2009 12:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

mmmmmmmmmmm PORTILLLLLIOS!!!!!!

Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Beer in one hand - brat in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride

by icarr0331 on Apr 26, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

mmmmmm UNOS!

The wifey waited tables at the Naperville location a few years ago

Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Beer in one hand - brat in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride

by icarr0331 on Apr 26, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lucky man

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes!!!

A solid CB with a 1-2 round grade…this is the kind of pic I don’t mind seeing, not a DE who only has 4 sacks

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by ThorCo on Apr 26, 2009 12:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I like productive players

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DJ Moore was listed as the 9th best player available in day 2

So… good value

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If these rookies make an impact

Our defense will be deadly next year.

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 12:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Moore

Supposedly one of the best cover corners in the draft.

by Bears-Bullsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

scouts inc

gives him an 87 grade and ranked him the 38th best player overall

by tfrabotta on Apr 26, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Good: Plays a lot bigger than his size indicates and isn’t afraid to stick his head in and make plays against the run. A impressive athlete with good straight-line speed and fluidity out of his back-pedal. Closes quickly on balls underneath and has the best first step of any corner in the class. Reads routes well and does a nice job undercutting the ball in space.

The Bad: Lacks great height and needs to add more muscle to his overall frame. Can be boxed out down the field and struggles fighting through bigger wide receivers when jumping routes.

NFLDraft.rivals

Yahoo sports analysis:

A great value here for the Bears as they get an undersized corner who closes as well as any defensive back in the draft. Moore fell due to concerns about his speed, but he is an ideal fit in the Chicago Cover 2 scheme.

by Spongie on Apr 26, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How is an undersized cover-corner an ideal fit for the Cover 2

Allow me to introduce Peanut Tillman. Yahoo, Peanut. Peanut, Yahoo.

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Had 6 INTs in each of the last two seasons.

He’s a playmaker… good… we like playmakers

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And we need someone

That can take Vasher’s spot.

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or light a fire under him!

I love this pick; he’s a playmaker and seems like a sure tackler based on those videos. Plus he can play offense!

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

by propheteer on Apr 26, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

draft countdown scouting report:

Strengths:
Extremely athletic…Good speed with a burst to close…Very quick and agile…Smooth with fluid hips…Terrific hands and ball skills…Good leaper…Nice instincts and awareness…Real opportunistic…Tough and tries to play physical…Dangerous runner with good vision in the open field…Lots of experience versus top competition…Superb return man.

Weaknesses:
Does not have the ideal height or bulk that you look for…Can be too aggressive and gambles a lot…A sub par tackler…Needs some work when it comes to technique and footwork…Has trouble getting a jam at the line…Just average recovery speed…Will struggle to match up with big wideouts…Doesn’t get off blocks real well…Durability is a concern.

Notes:
Was a three-year starter…Named 1st Team All-SEC in both 2007 and 2008…An Associated Press 2nd Team All-American as a junior…Dealt with an ankle injury that hampered him in 2008…Also saw extensive action at wide receiver for the Commodores…Capable of contributing as a punt and kick returner at the next level…A playmaker in the secondary who will make quarterbacks pay for their mistakes…Lack of size will limit his potential but could excel as a #2 or #3 cornerback.

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Apr 26, 2009 12:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Scouting Report: Productivity

2006: Moore starts nine of the12 games he appears in during his true freshman season. He records 37 tackles, intercepts a pass, breaks up two passes and forces three fumbles. Moore returns three punts for a total of seven yards and two kickoffs for a total of 26 yards. 2007: Moore starts 11 of the 12 games he appears in recording 83 tackles including two tackles-for-loss and one sack. He intercepts six passes and breaks up 10 passes. Moore returns 32 kickoffs for a total of 823 yards (25.7 yard avg.) He also contributes on offense carrying the ball six times for a total of 78 yards. 2008: Moore starts all 13 games and continues to contribute on both sides of the ball. He records 58 tackles including 4.5 tackles-for-loss including one sack. Moore intercepts six passes and breaks up seven passes. Offensively, Moore carries the ball nine times for a total of 76 yards and catches seven passes for a total of 143 yards and two touchdowns. He returns 21 kickoffs for a total of 407 yards (19.4 yard avg.) and 17 punts for a total of 244 yards (14.4 yard avg.).

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 12:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Was the 6th ranked CB in the draft per DraftCountdown.com

1. Malcolm Jenkins Ohio St.
2. Vontae Davis Illinois
3. Darius Butler Connecticut
4. Alphonso Smith Wake Forest
5. Jairus Byrd Oregon
6. D.J. Moore Vanderbilt

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

so basically

he’s going to be our new nickelback and manning is going back to FS? Or is this the year of the Bullocks?

"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka

by EricEmpire on Apr 26, 2009 12:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

More footbal traits

Height-Weight-Speed 4
Solid build but is shorter than ideal and his 40-yard dash times  both at Combine and Pro Day  are disappointing.

Durability 1
Injured left ankle in second quarter of 2008 Music City Bowl but returned to the field in the second half.

Character 1
Does whatever the coaching staff asks of him and a hard worker off the field. Intelligent person and player. Member of French honors organization.

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 12:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good things

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

French

France sucks…lol

well they do want more football smart people here I guess

by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Position specific traits

Recognition Skills/Toughness 1 Extremely instinctive in coverage and rarely gets caught out of position. Reads receivers routes quickly and gets a great jump on the ball as a result. Shows good awareness in zone coverage and does a nice job of baiting quarterbacks. Is not afraid to get his jersey dirty.

Closing Burst 3 A quick-twitch athlete and footwork is excellent. Smoothly transitions out of backpedal and shows above-average closing burst when the ball is thrown in front of him. Plays faster than 40 time indicates but there are concerns regarding his deep recovery speed.

Fluidity 1 Fluid and naturally flips hips when asked to turn and run with receivers. Elite ability to stop and start and does a sound job of mirroring receivers in man coverage.

Ball Skills 2 Natural hands and has experience lining up at receiver. Plays the ball extremely well and does a nice job of breaking up passes without getting flagged for pass interference. However, he isn’t tall enough to compete for jump balls working against bigger receivers. (See 1st quarter Georgia 2008).

Run Support 3 Is willing in run support and shows some toughness. But his tackling skills must improve, especially in the open field. Also slight concerns about ability to shed bigger receivers.

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 12:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Why Melton went ahead of a guy like this... well, I'll just have to see what happens

And I’m just glad we got him. He looks like an NFL player.

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm starting to like this draft more and more

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Apr 26, 2009 12:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

or more like

MOORE AND MOORE

get it?

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Apr 26, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN

just gave the Bears props for their drafting on day 2.

by tfrabotta on Apr 26, 2009 12:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Kiper says we did good...

We got two of the best players available to start the day + Iglesias, who he would include in that group

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Kiper sucks

ok maybe not….I dont hate him as some others do….Now mcshay I cant stand….he say anything?

by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In all seriousness

I’m starting to get worried about why Duke is falling so far. I’m starting to get to the point where I don’t want him.

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 12:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If hes there in 6th or 7th rounds

you have to take him ….heck even the 5th round you would have to consider him….

by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They aren't going to let

Oakland forget out that pick. Just keep grinding then knife in.

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by Adam T on Apr 26, 2009 12:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

damn

Murphy to the Raiders

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Apr 26, 2009 12:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Al Davis likes 40 times. LOL

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Davis

Someone has to tell him he’s not running a track team, but a football team.

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

by propheteer on Apr 26, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what will it take for a boy my age

to here cheers up on that stage?

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by Adam T on Apr 26, 2009 12:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

to answer literally

for me to loose 12 years of age and 100 pounds.

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by Adam T on Apr 26, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh my God, boss

I really want to correct you.

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't, let it go

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by Adam T on Apr 26, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah. Just do rediculous amounts of roids...

And work on your 40 time, non stop.

Get it down low enough, and you too can be a first round pick for the Raiders.

by Sklz711 on Apr 26, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope we dont regret

passing on sidbury for Melton

by tfrabotta on Apr 26, 2009 12:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

they're both similair players

a lot of talent but are very raw and need to be taught technique.

I think Melton is gonna work out for no other reason besides the fact that Miranelli is coaching him.

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Apr 26, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ellis Hobbs

to the Eagles for two 5ths.

Interesting move.

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Apr 26, 2009 12:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

who's that?

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe he was a CB for the Patriots and the Saints

but don’t totally believe me I have been wrong before….haha

(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."

by ThorCo on Apr 26, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pats corner

was a starter too. Only 25, also a great return man.

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Apr 26, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which Pats CB went to the Saints??

Was it Gay???

(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."

by ThorCo on Apr 26, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Apr 26, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So are we still looking for Duke next

or somewhere else?

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by Adam T on Apr 26, 2009 12:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Clemons

The dream is still alive.

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You really

have to stop using song titles…it’s driving me nuts!!!

by Charlie129 on Apr 26, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Duke... the dream... the myth... the legend.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mark Bradley!

Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!

by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 26, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we can get Clemons

we can throw Cutler in and say great draft.

by tfrabotta on Apr 26, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

colts took Collie

Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!

by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 26, 2009 12:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OK... we gotta look at S, LB, O-line here...

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nope... I would LOVE him!

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he would be

great value for us and replace KJones next year (2010)as the back up.

by tfrabotta on Apr 26, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think so

He would be a great replacement for AP and Wolf.

by luckie815 on Apr 26, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alright

I’m gonna play some MarioKart quick, someone let me know when we’re close to the Bears pick.

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 12:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

gotcha covered.

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by Adam T on Apr 26, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks boss

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How bout this question:

Is there anyone on the board that anyone thinks has a legit chance of becoming a starter this year or next?

If so, pick that dude. No matter what position.

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 12:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Um... Duke Robinson.

Or… almost any free safety has a legit chance to start on our team, because our safeties are crud.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think if we take a safety there is a shot

if you look at our history we have to play rookie CBs and S due to ineffectiveness and injury.

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by Adam T on Apr 26, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

right, but

we’ve got bodies there. do you see anybody left who would beat out those bodies and start and be significantly better?

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

today

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Depends on your level of optimism....

(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."

by ThorCo on Apr 26, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 freak athletes on the D-line...

Iglesias at WR and a good CB. Pair the raw linemen with Marinelli and it’s looking good…

by shawndgoldman on Apr 26, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Broncos took an OT. This could start a run on O-line

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There's already been 9 safeties drafted...

in a weak draft class at the position.

The Bears are probably gonna have to find a solution on the current roster. Maybe Zachary Bowman?

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

let me try that again...

So who’s the best FS left that played his college ball below the Mason-Dixon?

by shawndgoldman on Apr 26, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chargers just took a Guard, right after Broncos took an OT

The run is forming

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and ahead of Duke

I think we should not look his way. Something is just not right that everbody is walking away from. I am smelling bust..

by tfrabotta on Apr 26, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jamon Meredith or Duke

in the 5th would be freaking amazing.

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Apr 26, 2009 12:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Holy crap

Mereidith is still on the board….WoW

by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes... yes...

focus more on the line…

We went D-line 2 times today. Go back to O-line.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Duke's report

Offensive Guard | Senior | Oklahoma
Duke Robinson
Height: 6-5 | Weight: 329 | 40-Time: 5.27
Duke Robinson | Oklahoma Sooners
Official Bio

Strengths:
Huge frame with long arms…Great bulk…Outstanding strength…Very powerful…Tough and physical…Nasty and is a finisher…Gets a great push and can be a dominating run blocker…Is stout at the point of attack…Uses his hands well…Plays with good leverage and bends at the knees…Quick with decent mobility and range…Good awareness and instincts…Versatile…A lot of experience against top competition.

Weaknesses:
Can be a bit inconsistent…Not a great technician…Isn’t real light on his feet…Has lapses in concentration…Poor balance…Will get caught reaching at times…Will have some trouble with quicker defensive tackles…Work ethic has been questioned and tends to skate by on his natural ability…Little immature…Won’t be an ideal fit for every team.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jamon Meridith

or Clemons please.

You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four.

by Just Dave on Apr 26, 2009 12:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Where are we going to keep

all these tackles on the roster?? Pace, Williams, shaffer, Omaliye already

by tfrabotta on Apr 26, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Omaliye

is starting LG….

by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

But depth chart wise he can slide to tackle so we have three plus one. Another tackle is not our most pressing need.

by tfrabotta on Apr 26, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We have some crud on the depth chart

Reed, Tyler G

Balogh, Cody T

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The same place we keep all the defensive ends I guess

You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four.

by Just Dave on Apr 26, 2009 12:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Difference is

this is Wale’s last year and we are grooming replacements. Potentially Anderson does not work out under Marinelli as well.

by tfrabotta on Apr 26, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guarantee

We get Kevin Ogletree with one of our 5th round picks.

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 12:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and Pierre Walters with one of our 7ths

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Apr 26, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

3rd O-lineman taken in the last 3 picks....

Here’s where we gotta go O-line

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

last 4 picks

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

damn

Kropog fell all the way to the 5th. Good job by the Titans.

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Apr 26, 2009 12:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

3 more picks

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 12:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think this is where

JA starts taking his small school no names.

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Apr 26, 2009 1:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

Couldn’t argue with any of those picks at this point. I’d still favor Robinson the most unless there is some issue with him no one in the media knows about.

by JohnPaul on Apr 26, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's up with the FBs

Are there any good one’s left.

by luckie815 on Apr 26, 2009 1:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Knox?

You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four.

by Just Dave on Apr 26, 2009 1:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

2 more picks!

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 1:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I kinda liked Phillips with one of our 5ths

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Apr 26, 2009 1:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think he went to the Ravens

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Apr 26, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

I got it wrong, you’re right it was the Ravens.

by JohnPaul on Apr 26, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Meredith could be this years Carl Nicks

Highly regarded at the beginning of the draft, falls to the 5th, wins a starting o-line job.

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Apr 26, 2009 1:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bulls

down 46-45 at the half..

by tfrabotta on Apr 26, 2009 1:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ShouldIWatch.com saved me time on Thursday...

checked it at halftime on my Tivo of the game.

by shawndgoldman on Apr 26, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That aggravation

helped me to workout for 2 hours…

by tfrabotta on Apr 26, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did the opposite for me

I was just numb.

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Our next pick is the one from the Cutler trade

I sure would love for this to be some guy who becomes a longtime starter.

Just because it would be sweeter.

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 1:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

absolutely!

Couldn’t agree more. At the time when I heard we got them to throw in 5th rounder I figured it was a “worthless” throw-in but looking at some of the players left on the board, I’ve totally changed my attitude.

Let’s see what JA does.

by JohnPaul on Apr 26, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just let it be someone I've heard of

You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four.

by Just Dave on Apr 26, 2009 1:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

heh

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its hard to get excited about a question mark.

You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four.

by Just Dave on Apr 26, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's a good one

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Apr 26, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did anybody see this:
General manager Jerry Angelo tried to trade his second-round draft pick for Anquan Boldin, and when that didn’t work out, he traded the Bears right out of the first day of the draft.

The Bears were hoping Ohio State wide receiver Brian Robiskie would slip to them, and when he didn’t come close to making it to No. 49, they explored options to get out of the pick and found a willing trade partner in Seattle.

by Twins Territory on Apr 26, 2009 1:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ya

Makes me wonder what we offered.

by JohnPaul on Apr 26, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like

just that to see how interested Arizona was, and then they still wanted a first.

by Twins Territory on Apr 26, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn, there are so many vaible options left on the board

I’d rather have James Casey over any WR available. He’s extremely versatile and could line up at WR or TE or H-back.

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Apr 26, 2009 1:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pick is in

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 1:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Johnny Knox!

ABILENE CHRISTIAN BABY!

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 1:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not bad

You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four.

by Just Dave on Apr 26, 2009 1:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

not surprised

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Apr 26, 2009 1:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Johnny Knox

"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton

by HoneyBear on Apr 26, 2009 1:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WE GOT KNOX!!!

FUCK YEAH!!!

Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!

by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 26, 2009 1:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Johnny Knox - WR?

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Apr 26, 2009 1:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ha! Somebody here called it earlier!

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 1:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

johnny knox!

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart

by Jbasic89 on Apr 26, 2009 1:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WCG is PISSED

….now that he needs to learn how spell Abilene Christian :)

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 1:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

abbreviate it "AbChrst"

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Daniel Manning, hello!!!

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Apr 26, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

look at his eyes

The picture on the website, the dude looks like he’s high on something.

by JohnPaul on Apr 26, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

johnny knox!

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart

by Jbasic89 on Apr 26, 2009 1:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thing on Moore:
He was projected as a good fit for teams that use the cover two scheme and he could challenge quickly at right cornerback where Nathan Vasher and Corey Graham are.

by Twins Territory on Apr 26, 2009 1:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If we miss on Clemons

I am gonna be pissed. This guy has Airese Currie written all over him..

by tfrabotta on Apr 26, 2009 1:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

4.28

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Apr 26, 2009 1:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah!!!

Another WR, Adios Rashid Davis!!!!!! BYAH!!

(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."

by ThorCo on Apr 26, 2009 1:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

BYAAAAHHHH!

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

two words

Two words that are like gold in the scouting report on Knox:

“Reliable hands.”

That’s a relief. Though it sounds like there are concerns he has the physical strength to get off the line and/or break tackles.

by JohnPaul on Apr 26, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Moore is Confident:
“I felt I was the best cornerback in the draft,’’ he said

Moore made the decision to leave school a year early but said he did so because he didn’t know what one more fall at Vanderbilt was going to do for him.

“I felt I was ready to go,‘’ he said. "I was in the best cornerback in the best conference playing against the best players. I didn’t think I was going to get too much better.’’

by Twins Territory on Apr 26, 2009 1:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

JA dear lord

does he know there is more than 3 colleges he can choose from?

by Chisportfan on Apr 26, 2009 1:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes

Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, Abilene Christian, and Vanderbilt :)

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Round 5 Thread

Link

Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!

by Adam T on Apr 26, 2009 1:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Johnny Knox scout vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNFsIp26RlY

Why I love this pick?

Knox plays special teams and can return which means Davis has to be gone IMO…

by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 1:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Denver just traded up for a South Carolina WR...

…who was just sorta… meh.

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Apr 26, 2009 1:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

AHH chicago sports overload

trying to watch the halftime special on D Rose while also watching NFL network on the computer as they go over the bears draft picks. I was born with 2 ears but only one brain to process everything.

by airnjp on Apr 26, 2009 1:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Scott wrights scouting report on Knox

Strengths:
Smooth athlete…Adequate height…Outstanding timed speed…Quick with great acceleration and a burst…Soft, reliable hands…Good body control and ball skills…Elusive…Nice vision and instincts…Solid route runner…Vertical threat who can really separate…Terrific production.

Weaknesses:
Doesn’t have the ideal bulk that you look for…Not very strong…Won’t break a lot of tackles…Trys hard but isn’t a great blocker…Worked as a return man but didn’t stand out…Is facing a big jump in competition.

Notes:
Started out at Tyler (TX) Junior College, where he was a 2nd Team All-American…Owns the ACU record for touchdown receptions…Was named 1st Team All-Lone Star Conference in 2007 and 2008…Had a strong showing at the Texas vs. The Nation all-star game (3 REC | 55 YDS | 1 TD)…Really caught peoples attention with his performance at the Scouting Combine…Intriguing speed and production…Profiles as a slot receiver at the next level and can also contribute on special teams.

by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 1:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I bet he's gonna suck.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do we have a permanent scout at Abiline Christian?

I mean… seriously.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 1:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So the Packers have 3 FB's on their roster now?

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Apr 26, 2009 1:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Question...

From NFL.com

“Negatives: Thin through the hips and legs. Gets a lot of his yardage after short routes, screens and swing passes. Lacks elite speed or quickness, but had enough to be special at the FCS level. Easily tripped up in the open field. Does not switch the ball to the outside hand. Despite his strong effort, he lacks the bulk and strength to be effective against NFL defenders. Dances and runs backward too much after the catch or on returns — will not get away with that at the next level.”

Didn’t he run the 3rd fastest 40 time at the combine and is known for his exceptional separation abilities?

by sirus19x on Apr 26, 2009 1:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If we're lucky as hell... we end up with a Lance Moore type of WR

But… realistically? Ugh. That’s why it’s round 5

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah you said it

for round 5 I feel this is a solid pick.

by robinhood on Apr 26, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can anyone look up the scouting report of Brandon Marshall coming out of college?

I know he went to central florida and was picked in the fourth round.

Obviously my point is Jay Cutler could make Knox a star like he made Marshall.

by robinhood on Apr 26, 2009 1:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

But... Marshall is a large physical WR. 6'4" 230

Knox is 5’ 11" 185

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Apr 26, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marshall had a draft grade of 70

Knox has a 65.

But comparing them is like comparing steve smith to randy moss.

by sirus19x on Apr 26, 2009 1:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Freeman

great value.

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Apr 26, 2009 1:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

How ironic that Meredith and Duke go back to back

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Apr 26, 2009 2:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn

There went Clemons

You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four.

by Just Dave on Apr 26, 2009 2:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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