2009 NFL Draft Round 4 - Open Thread
by Adam T on Apr 26, 2009 11:09 AM CDT
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PrintLet us see if the Bears actually address the spots we need. Those of wide receiver and safety.
| Round | Pick | Player | Pos. | College | ||
| 3 | 68 | Jarron Gilbert | DE | San Jose St. | ||
| 3 | 99 | Juaquin Iglesias |
WR |
Oklahoma |
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| 4 | 105 | Henry Melton |
DE |
Texas |
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| 4 | 119 | D.J. Moore |
CB |
Vanderbilt |
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| 5 | 140 | |||||
| 5 | 154 | |||||
| 6 | 190 | |||||
| 7 | 246 | |||||
| 7 | 251 | |||||
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3 more picks
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Hey now
Calling me David Haugh will get you banned.
Clemons could be had later on. We can get Duke now.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
we should take both
and Matthew Stafford. And Peyton Manning
by Orval Overall on Apr 26, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Cowboys take a QB
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Stafford being interviewed on NFLN
He’s gonna be a bust….No OLine=many many hits. He’s Joey Harrington in the making.
Yes, he does have that busty smell
… and that deer-in-the-headlights look
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
Angelo is having a strong day so far
I have a hunch Angelo looks linebacker at #105.
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Too early
OLB will come in the 5th or 6th rounds.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
Iglesias
I like him because of his production, but we’ll have to see if he can consistently gets off the line in press coverage. I certainly think he’s better than some of the other WRs taken before him.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
Iglesias is a developmental project
I won’t expect him to contribute much as a rookie. But I really like the pick at #99.
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I liked him before the draft, because he made big plays.
Big plays are my measuring stick…
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Cheifs go CB
2 more picks
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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DJ Moore
Sounds like he’s dropping because he’s got marginal size-speed-strength … but at this point in the draft, with his instincts, he’d be a great Nickel guy.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
Daniel Manning is the nickel back
We need a bonafide Safety and somebody to replace Nathan Vasher at Cornerback.
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and he might not be the guy.
He doesn’t seem like a good fit as a Cover 2 corner.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
Not just yet.....
Vasher hasnt been healthy over the last two years id give him on year before we let him go this guy was known as the “interceptor” he had 16 picks in his first three seasons if hes healthy this year look for him to bounce back hes only 27 so its not like hes on his last legs i do like the pick of the corner however i think hell help out on special teams and nickel.
Iglesias hopefully devolps but i do see chicago siging a journeymen or Plaxico if he isnt going to jail and depending on what goodell does
by Bear Lovin 21 on Apr 26, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Curtis Taylor
The guy seems like Mike Brown part 2. Unfortunately that also means the injury risk. But I think of the safeties still on the board he is the best when healthy and the guy certainly has size at 6’3" and 220
Derrick Rose-2009 ROTY Tyrus Thomas-2009 MIP...hope I'm at least half right
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Apr 26, 2009 11:20 AM CDT reply actions
because of position
but he is the #1 guard available
by Orval Overall on Apr 26, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Why were other Guards
taken before him then?
dont think he was looked at by the Bears so not expecting any O line considering they went FA this season…
by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Next pick has to be a secondary player IMO
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
I thought it was hilarious too
I couldn’t stop laughing
by aznsensation on Apr 26, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Gruden looked normal
Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Beer in one hand - brat in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride
Finger thing was perfect
Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Beer in one hand - brat in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride
1 more pick to go... Duke still on the board
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Angelo is going to pick a surprise name at 105
None of the top safeties and cornerbacks available strike as a good fit. A small college name upcoming? Or a linebacker??
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thinking the same thing
but i was thinking secondary with 99
by Steve Ronkowski on Apr 26, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
There's only been 3 guards drafted so far...
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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trade down chicago bears
that’s the jerry angelo theme song
for the 105th pick the Chicago Bears pick.....
Icarr0331….The fastest waterboy in the draft!!!
Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Beer in one hand - brat in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride
On the clock... and so is Duke
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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As long as its not a safety from Duke
Derrick Rose-2009 ROTY Tyrus Thomas-2009 MIP...hope I'm at least half right
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Apr 26, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Broncos pick is in
only a few minutes away
Derrick Rose-2009 ROTY Tyrus Thomas-2009 MIP...hope I'm at least half right
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Apr 26, 2009 11:26 AM CDT reply actions
Too bad Jason Williams is gone
Derrick Rose-2009 ROTY Tyrus Thomas-2009 MIP...hope I'm at least half right
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Apr 26, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Pick is in
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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WTF? Another DE
We hired the God of D-line coaches so we didn’t have to rebuild the d-line completely and now were drafting 2 des
Derrick Rose-2009 ROTY Tyrus Thomas-2009 MIP...hope I'm at least half right
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Apr 26, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Blag... blah... blah
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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MELTON BIATCH!!!
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 26, 2009 11:29 AM CDT reply actions
Angelo you dick
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
lol...
… that was good.
Bringing moderation to a place I don't moderate.
visit the mindful mission
by big_lowitzki on Apr 26, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
A whopping 4 sacks in two seasons
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Henry Melton ---- Bold...and I like it
Angelo is addressing a defensive line that has sucked for two years. I LIKE this pick. Melton can be what Mark ANderson was supposed to be.
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what about their 3rd rd pick then?
Why do we need 2 more DE’s? Is Mark Anderson moving to safety?
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
by Ugh It Live! on Apr 26, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Mark Anderson is in danger of being cut
Anderson was a one-year wonder. Adewale Ogunleye is insanely overrated. Alex Brown is the only defensive end on the roster that is decent, and even he can’t be classified as great.
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Viewed as having a lot of upside and very coachable
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why say something funny
this draft has to be a practical joke.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
I guess Marinelli has more pull than we thought
or now that Lovie is calling the plays, he is making sure they load up.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
good point
forgot about HotRod
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
by Ugh It Live! on Apr 26, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Because Jerry Angelo has his own scouts...
…and doesn’t need to buy Mel Kipers’ draft guide? Again, we went through this last year with Mendenhall/Forte.
Only thing I can find cant even find highlights on him
04/20/2009 – A converted running back, Texas’ Henry Melton has played defensive end only two seasons. He might have to switch positions again when he gets to the NFL. Some 3-4 teams are looking at the former Grapevine product at outside linebacker. He worked out for the Cowboys there last week. “I haven’t played a lot of linebacker since high school,” Melton said in a telephone interview. “I’m a pretty athletic guy, good in space, so that’s what a lot of teams are looking at.” Besides the Cowboys, Melton has visited with the Colts, Bears, Vikings, Buccaneers, Packers and 49ers. He is projected as a sixth-round choice. – Charean Williams, Star-Telegram
04/20/2009 – A converted running back, Texas’ Henry Melton has played defensive end only two seasons. He might have to switch positions again when he gets to the NFL. Some 3-4 teams are looking at the former Grapevine product at outside linebacker. He worked out for the Cowboys there last week. “I haven’t played a lot of linebacker since high school,” Melton said in a telephone interview. “I’m a pretty athletic guy, good in space, so that’s what a lot of teams are looking at.” Besides the Cowboys, Melton has visited with the Colts, Bears, Vikings, Buccaneers, Packers and 49ers. He is projected as a sixth-round choice. – Charean Williams, Star-Telegram
LOL
sorry my mouse is sensitive :(
DONT BAN ME!!
by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Both him and Gilbert
were said to be projected 3-4 scheme guys…is there something that we don’t know about Lovie’s plan this year?
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
by Ugh It Live! on Apr 26, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
He just wants pass rushers...
he always wants pass rushers…
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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I'll take the JA special
hold the talent, please
by Steve Ronkowski on Apr 26, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm so fuckin happy....great to have another Longhorn on the team
But Clemons soon. Just wait.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
I think he'll be alright
He needs some coaching. Marinelli is our DL coach. Therefore, I think he’ll be ok.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
Like you said in your later post,
we have to wait and see what JA does, or we WILL end up looking like asses! I guess we need to be patient and see where the dart flies next!
character risk too?
Texas officials looking into defensive end’s arrestComment Email Print Share Associated Press
AUSTIN, Texas — Texas junior defensive end Henry Melton was arrested and charged with driving while intoxicated early Friday.
Melton was pulled over in the popular Sixth Street entertainment district about 2:30 a.m. after officers noticed his truck driving in an unsafe manner, Austin police spokeswoman Laura Albrecht said.
In the arrest report, officer Steven Martinez said Melton failed a field sobriety test, smelled strongly of alcohol, had bloodshot eyes, staggered, used profanity and was insulting during his interview.
Melton also told the officer he had nothing to drink, Martinez reported.
Melton was charged with DWI and taken to the Travis County Jail. He was released at 8:15 a.m. after posting a $1,500 personal recognizance bond, according to jail records.
Texas athletic spokesman John Bianco said school officials were aware of the arrest and were looking into it. It was not immediately clear if Melton has an attorney.
maybe we are going
to move him to LB then. he could learn from the best…
by Steve Ronkowski on Apr 26, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
This isn't good
I thought JA learned his lesson with Texas players and DUIs.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
Angelo, Lovie and Marinelli are clearly focused on beefing up the pass rush and gaining edge speed
This is an indictment of Adewale Ogunleye, Mark Anderson and what we lack at the outside linebacker spot opposite Lance Briggs.
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Jamar Williams/Hillenmeyer
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
by Ugh It Live! on Apr 26, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Jamar Williams sucks and Hillenmeyer is a journeyman type role player
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I'll give you Hillenmeyer
but what gives you reason to say Williams sucks?
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
by Ugh It Live! on Apr 26, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
The Bears obviously have an idea...
…of retooling the D-line, and after the defense’s showing last year you can’t argue that it’s unnecessary.
Hell no
And if Jerry can get Duke or Clemons with our next pick, we all look like assholes for doubting him. At least for the short term.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
Duke
What’s the fascination with this guy, and why is he still on the board?
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
Duke Robinson?
We need a guard. Garza sucks. The end :)
But honestly, I don’t know why he’s still on the board.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
A mauler?
His strength is run-blocking correct?
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
I wouldn't mind Lang either -
can play guard for now, right tackle later.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
They have to take a S
there is not way they can think Bullocks and Campbell are the answer.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
Clearly the Bears are not enamored with the available safeties
I’d rather get somebody who projects one day to being a decent Safety as opposed to drafting a guy who might not make it out of training camp.
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Angelo's drafted a lot of safeties in rounds 4 & 5
Unfortunately…. most of them weren’t good enough
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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easy to make fun of JA for this
but assuming one of these two work out + ronron magic = we have a D again
by Steve Ronkowski on Apr 26, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Strategy & tactics
Even if Melton is a great find, this is like JA’s Mitchell flirtation at 49: It’s a dumb PICK. You wanna pick your finds just a bit before where they’re slotted, not several rounds before where they’re slotted.
Scouting isn’t drafting.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
Okay, but you're grading the Bears based upon YOUR slotting...
…and presuming that you have a better idea of what other teams are going to do.
Not really
I don’t have any idea where these players should go. But when a guy isn’t even ranked by ESPN and you take him at the 105 pick, odds are you’re reaching.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
You're also talking about the same company that employs
Steven A. Smith/Scoop Jackson and Jim Rome as “experts”
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
by Ugh It Live! on Apr 26, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
But when it comes to the draft board
ESPN hires Scouts Inc. to put together its scouting report. Available to Insiders.
These guys could be wrong, but they’re not jacklegs.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
That's ironic
Thanks for pointing that out in public though, because here’s what they say about Melton:
A former running back, Melton display excellent lower-body strength that gives him the ability to stack and shed when holding the edge against the run. He also flashes the quickness and natural ability to bend that could allow him to develop into an effective pass-rusher.
Hmm….
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
Melton is exactly the sort of player the Bears love to draft.
A guy who can contribute on defense AND special teams, and a guy with raw athletic talent who’s unfinished and can be coached to play their way.
Yup
And we know how Jerry hates bad character guys. If Jerry drafted him, he must be ok.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
I realize that
And that’s my point. He screwed up, and Jerry doesn’t like bad character guys. His interview and private workout must have gone well if Jerry took him.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
scouts isn't even the best talent evaluator
I like rivals more…i think they’re a bit more accurate
by aznsensation on Apr 26, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
I guarantee you
that EITHER ONE knows more than I do.
I’m just interested in how to manage the decision-making.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
I'll take the word of professional NFL front office people over talking heads on a sports network
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Yeah, but they don't have the resources of NFL teams.
There aren’t as many of them. They don’t get private workouts. Etc.
That's true
But there’s wisdom in crowds and idiocy in crowds. Neither is a guarantee of success.
Which is why I’m back to the gamesmanship of the draft. Are you drafting in a way to maximize your chance of getting lucky?
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
Me personally
I visit all kinds of draftnik sites to see what everyone says….and with Melton the earliest “draft grade” I had seen was 5th with other listing him as a 6th maybe 7th….but eh its over hes a Bear…gotta hope he plays hard and pans out….
by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
that would be better than
plays out and pans hard
And Mitchell got drafted BEFORE the Bears picked...
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Way I look at it is...
…MOST of the players drafted today are NOT going to be significant players. So you do your scouting and find the guys you like, but then you study the game of drafting and you don’t fall in love with your own opinions. Odds are bad for any of these guys becoming stars, so you focus on trying to acquire people where you can get them and hoping to assemble the best group you can get.
Then you hope to get lucky.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
Pass defense
starts with a good pass rush, hopefully these two guys will provide that.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
Didnt Biggs
say that the Bears were looking at him as a DE? thought I saw a his blog post about the private work out they had with Melton….
Another scouting report
from scott wright
http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/de/Henry-Melton.php
plays special teams and a DE….had him as a :mid round" pick as well….
AH
thanks for posting your link so it pops up in a new window…I hate the links that take me out of WCG!!
Was just going to post it
but thought i put it in a link didnt want to get in trouble….
by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Still waiting...
for my slow satellite to pull the page up! Didn’t load in Firefox, so had to pull it up in IE.
Ops
sorry …
here it is
Strengths:
Extremely athletic…Pretty good speed and quickness…Explosive with a burst…Great balance and agility…Does a terrific job in pursuit and closes fast…Good strength…Great special teamer…Has a lot of upside.
Weaknesses:
Inexperienced…Marginal instincts and awareness…Still has a long way to go when it comes to technique…Not an elite pass rusher…Does not always use proper leverage…Aggressiveness?…Some character issues.
Notes:
Was a Top 100 recruit coming out of high school according to Rivals…Uncle, Ray Crockett, played 14 years in the NFL with Detroit, Denver & Kansas City and was a captain for the Broncos back-to-back Super Bowl teams…Began his college career as a running back and carried the ball 132 times for 625 yards (4.7 avg.) and 16 touchdowns in 2005 and 2006…Moved to defensive end in 2007 and took over a starting job in 2008…Served a three game suspension in 2007 after he was arrested and charged with driving while intoxicated…Was overshadowed by Brian Orakpo but is a fine pro prospect in his own right…Isn’t a finished product but improved by leaps and bounds as a senior and has all of the physical tools that you look for…Underrated.
by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
oooh pedigree!
Scores bigtime w/ Angelo
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
by Ugh It Live! on Apr 26, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
It's okay
not your fault! I did finally end up getting it to load. Thank you though. You guys are great here…I have learned so much! Thanks for all the info!!
Maybe he's our new FB! LOL
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Melton- a project for the future
Isn’t a finished product but improved by leaps and bounds as a senior and has all of the physical tools that you look for…Underrated.
Looks like he’ll provide good special teams play as well.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
I hate saying
“he’s got potential”…but I think he probably does…with Marinelli’s help. I agree with you ChiFan.
Considering the holes they had
I thought it was a decent trade….wasnt thrilled with it but hey at least they didnt draft massaquio….
by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
They need a guard
And Duke is the best still available. Omiyale has only started one game, Beekman needs to take over for Kruetz eventually, and Garza is way overrated
Yeah... we need a FS.
But… are those guys even starting caliber? Meanwhile… you’ve got one of the top ranked guards right there on the board.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Duke.
They were already replacing Beekman at LG… and trying to replace Garza at RG…
Reports from this whole offseason were that we wanted more size at Guard. Of course… because our guards got pushed around big time in short yardage.
Take Duke… or a comparable player.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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So...Louis Murphy?
Brian McRae's 5 o'clock shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Apr 26, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
5 more picks... New Orleans is two of them.
Saints secondary sucks.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Chargers just drafted a guy from Canada
lol
I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad
They're among the best drafting teams in the biz... don;t laugh at them
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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I'm not laughing at them...
I’m laughing at Canada.
I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad
LOL
seriously though seen that guy as a big sleeper pick in most draftnik sites…
by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
DE picks
I think JA and Lovie, really want the speed pass rush coming from the ends. That is what make or breaks the Tampa-2 system. Without that pass rush, the cover 2 gets picked apart. The problem is that Tampa-2 sux and a good QB will pick it apart regardless of pass rush. I hate Tampa-2!
by Bears-Bullsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:00 PM CDT reply actions
It didn;t suck in 2005 and 2006
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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2006
The year we went to the superbowl was kind of a fluke. Our d kind of overachieved, and that was the year hester had 6 returned TD’s.
by Bears-Bullsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Broncos take S David Bruton
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Who's the Lions take in a blink of an eye?
Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Beer in one hand - brat in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride
Who was that receiver out of Abilene Christian?
I liked his hands and would be a good late pick up I think.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Apr 26, 2009 12:01 PM CDT reply actions
He'll be ours... no other scouts are allowed at that school
except for Bears scouts.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Hey
Norte Dame rules….
I liked him but eh…
by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Lions take a DT
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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that would be an awesome pick
I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad
Who is he?
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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DJ Moore, CB Vanderbilt
1st/2nd round prospect, still on the board. NO might take him though.
I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad
Does ESPN really think
I care what Michael Smith thinks about the draft?
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
NFLN is much better. I like Mayock quite a bit.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
I wanna know...
I can never remember the guys name on the network who has the really bad dislocated pinky…it grosses me out to watch him pointing on the board. I wish they would tell him to use his other finger!! Or put him on the left side of the desk so we didn’t have to see that pinky!!
please dear lord
someone stop jerry from picking like jerry jones and the moron in oakland al davis
smith
if michael smith likes em then they are gonna tank
Sainsts take S Chip Vaughn...
figured they take a DB
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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no way
JA is not drafting a FS with speed….. one it makes sense, and two he is from a school everyone knows that isnt texas or oklahoma…… not gonna happen
crazy friggin arms on that guy, sick. disgusting
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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I always thought that pick
I saw on the internet was photoshopped.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
ugh
that freak….course wouldnt say that to his face….
by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
just plain
disturbing….. but oddly….. are his testicles proportionately smaller than normal?
by Chisportfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
But... Murphy is...
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Bucs picked? Did Dallas trade?
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Trade this pick
Murphy and Duke, and Moore and clemons still on the board. Jerry will trade this pick for 10 7th rounders
There's probably a future pro bowler still available
and no one — not Angelo certainly — has any idea who it is.
Irregardless isn't a word, Gruden.
No wonder you’re out of a job.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 12:11 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
+1
I hate when people use that word
Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Beer in one hand - brat in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride
gonna love it when
he runs that whole franchise into the tank
by Chisportfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
you mean
Jason Williams from westtern mich?
by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
espn
may as well be. All they do is have fights between McShay and Kiper/Jaws. No real analysis.
by Orval Overall on Apr 26, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
how do you like it? how do you like it?
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Apr 26, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
absolute steal
i think like this pick more than I like Bowman last year, and that’s saying a lot.
I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad
Pick is in
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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John Parker Wilson
has such a gay haircut.
I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad
come on baby
60 days till i come home…make my Week!!
by Chitownproduct on Apr 26, 2009 12:14 PM CDT reply actions
DJ Moore!
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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D.J. Moore CB Vanderbilt
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 26, 2009 12:14 PM CDT reply actions
We love Vanderbilt.... hope we have scouts in other friggin places too.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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think its cheaper
to just leave them in tenn….
not thrilled with this pick…
by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Why not we did it for Tampa
Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Beer in one hand - brat in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride
We're trying to raise the Bears team GPA
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 26, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm thinking Moore is like Everson Walls
I’m happy with this pick.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
Cutler, Hillenmeyer, Chris Williams, Earl Bennett
and now Moore. Angelo loves him some Vanderbily players, thats for sure.
vandy
the perenial national power strikes again
is he going to stay a CB...
or are we gonna convert him to Safety?
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
He's small, not physical, and not strong against the run
so no, probably not a safety.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
lol 182 pounds?
We need to get our guy to Portillos or something.
by Chitownproduct on Apr 26, 2009 12:17 PM CDT reply actions
mmmmmmmmmmm PORTILLLLLIOS!!!!!!
Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Beer in one hand - brat in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride
mmmmmm UNOS!
The wifey waited tables at the Naperville location a few years ago
Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Beer in one hand - brat in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride
Yes!!!
A solid CB with a 1-2 round grade…this is the kind of pic I don’t mind seeing, not a DE who only has 4 sacks
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
DJ Moore was listed as the 9th best player available in day 2
So… good value
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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a CB
who returns kicks? i feel like i have seen this movie before…
by Steve Ronkowski on Apr 26, 2009 12:18 PM CDT reply actions
funny how that works
well, when it does work. like the pick though.
by Steve Ronkowski on Apr 26, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Moore
Supposedly one of the best cover corners in the draft.
by Bears-Bullsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:19 PM CDT reply actions
anyone have analysis on Moore, yahoo sports is still blank for me
by Chitownproduct on Apr 26, 2009 12:20 PM CDT reply actions
The Good: Plays a lot bigger than his size indicates and isn’t afraid to stick his head in and make plays against the run. A impressive athlete with good straight-line speed and fluidity out of his back-pedal. Closes quickly on balls underneath and has the best first step of any corner in the class. Reads routes well and does a nice job undercutting the ball in space.
The Bad: Lacks great height and needs to add more muscle to his overall frame. Can be boxed out down the field and struggles fighting through bigger wide receivers when jumping routes.
Yahoo sports analysis:
A great value here for the Bears as they get an undersized corner who closes as well as any defensive back in the draft. Moore fell due to concerns about his speed, but he is an ideal fit in the Chicago Cover 2 scheme.
How is an undersized cover-corner an ideal fit for the Cover 2
Allow me to introduce Peanut Tillman. Yahoo, Peanut. Peanut, Yahoo.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
Had 6 INTs in each of the last two seasons.
He’s a playmaker… good… we like playmakers
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Or light a fire under him!
I love this pick; he’s a playmaker and seems like a sure tackler based on those videos. Plus he can play offense!
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
draft countdown scouting report:
Strengths:
Extremely athletic…Good speed with a burst to close…Very quick and agile…Smooth with fluid hips…Terrific hands and ball skills…Good leaper…Nice instincts and awareness…Real opportunistic…Tough and tries to play physical…Dangerous runner with good vision in the open field…Lots of experience versus top competition…Superb return man.
Weaknesses:
Does not have the ideal height or bulk that you look for…Can be too aggressive and gambles a lot…A sub par tackler…Needs some work when it comes to technique and footwork…Has trouble getting a jam at the line…Just average recovery speed…Will struggle to match up with big wideouts…Doesn’t get off blocks real well…Durability is a concern.
Notes:
Was a three-year starter…Named 1st Team All-SEC in both 2007 and 2008…An Associated Press 2nd Team All-American as a junior…Dealt with an ankle injury that hampered him in 2008…Also saw extensive action at wide receiver for the Commodores…Capable of contributing as a punt and kick returner at the next level…A playmaker in the secondary who will make quarterbacks pay for their mistakes…Lack of size will limit his potential but could excel as a #2 or #3 cornerback.
I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad
Scouting Report: Productivity
2006: Moore starts nine of the12 games he appears in during his true freshman season. He records 37 tackles, intercepts a pass, breaks up two passes and forces three fumbles. Moore returns three punts for a total of seven yards and two kickoffs for a total of 26 yards. 2007: Moore starts 11 of the 12 games he appears in recording 83 tackles including two tackles-for-loss and one sack. He intercepts six passes and breaks up 10 passes. Moore returns 32 kickoffs for a total of 823 yards (25.7 yard avg.) He also contributes on offense carrying the ball six times for a total of 78 yards. 2008: Moore starts all 13 games and continues to contribute on both sides of the ball. He records 58 tackles including 4.5 tackles-for-loss including one sack. Moore intercepts six passes and breaks up seven passes. Offensively, Moore carries the ball nine times for a total of 76 yards and catches seven passes for a total of 143 yards and two touchdowns. He returns 21 kickoffs for a total of 407 yards (19.4 yard avg.) and 17 punts for a total of 244 yards (14.4 yard avg.).
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
Was the 6th ranked CB in the draft per DraftCountdown.com
1. Malcolm Jenkins Ohio St.
2. Vontae Davis Illinois
3. Darius Butler Connecticut
4. Alphonso Smith Wake Forest
5. Jairus Byrd Oregon
6. D.J. Moore Vanderbilt
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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so basically
he’s going to be our new nickelback and manning is going back to FS? Or is this the year of the Bullocks?
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
More footbal traits
Height-Weight-Speed 4
Solid build but is shorter than ideal and his 40-yard dash times both at Combine and Pro Day are disappointing.
Durability 1
Injured left ankle in second quarter of 2008 Music City Bowl but returned to the field in the second half.
Character 1
Does whatever the coaching staff asks of him and a hard worker off the field. Intelligent person and player. Member of French honors organization.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
French
France sucks…lol
well they do want more football smart people here I guess
by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Position specific traits
Recognition Skills/Toughness 1 Extremely instinctive in coverage and rarely gets caught out of position. Reads receivers routes quickly and gets a great jump on the ball as a result. Shows good awareness in zone coverage and does a nice job of baiting quarterbacks. Is not afraid to get his jersey dirty.
Closing Burst 3 A quick-twitch athlete and footwork is excellent. Smoothly transitions out of backpedal and shows above-average closing burst when the ball is thrown in front of him. Plays faster than 40 time indicates but there are concerns regarding his deep recovery speed.
Fluidity 1 Fluid and naturally flips hips when asked to turn and run with receivers. Elite ability to stop and start and does a sound job of mirroring receivers in man coverage.
Ball Skills 2 Natural hands and has experience lining up at receiver. Plays the ball extremely well and does a nice job of breaking up passes without getting flagged for pass interference. However, he isn’t tall enough to compete for jump balls working against bigger receivers. (See 1st quarter Georgia 2008).
Run Support 3 Is willing in run support and shows some toughness. But his tackling skills must improve, especially in the open field. Also slight concerns about ability to shed bigger receivers.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
Why Melton went ahead of a guy like this... well, I'll just have to see what happens
And I’m just glad we got him. He looks like an NFL player.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
I'm starting to like this draft more and more
I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad
or more like
MOORE AND MOORE
get it?
I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad
Well thanks for getting me up to speed guys
Stupid AFN showing sucky Miami game. Can’t wait to read rest of picks tomorrow. Laters
by Chitownproduct on Apr 26, 2009 12:25 PM CDT reply actions
Kiper says we did good...
We got two of the best players available to start the day + Iglesias, who he would include in that group
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Kiper sucks
ok maybe not….I dont hate him as some others do….Now mcshay I cant stand….he say anything?
by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
In all seriousness
I’m starting to get worried about why Duke is falling so far. I’m starting to get to the point where I don’t want him.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
If hes there in 6th or 7th rounds
you have to take him ….heck even the 5th round you would have to consider him….
by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
They aren't going to let
Oakland forget out that pick. Just keep grinding then knife in.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
damn
Murphy to the Raiders
I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad
Al Davis likes 40 times. LOL
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Davis
Someone has to tell him he’s not running a track team, but a football team.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
what will it take for a boy my age
to here cheers up on that stage?
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
to answer literally
for me to loose 12 years of age and 100 pounds.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
Nah. Just do rediculous amounts of roids...
And work on your 40 time, non stop.
Get it down low enough, and you too can be a first round pick for the Raiders.
by Jacob Hayes on Apr 26, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
they're both similair players
a lot of talent but are very raw and need to be taught technique.
I think Melton is gonna work out for no other reason besides the fact that Miranelli is coaching him.
I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad
Ellis Hobbs
to the Eagles for two 5ths.
Interesting move.
I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad
who's that?
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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I believe he was a CB for the Patriots and the Saints
but don’t totally believe me I have been wrong before….haha
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
Pats corner
was a starter too. Only 25, also a great return man.
I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad
Which Pats CB went to the Saints??
Was it Gay???
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
Duke... the dream... the myth... the legend.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Mark Bradley!
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 26, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
colts took Collie
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 26, 2009 12:34 PM CDT reply actions
OK... we gotta look at S, LB, O-line here...
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Nope... I would LOVE him!
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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I don't think so
He would be a great replacement for AP and Wolf.
Alright
I’m gonna play some MarioKart quick, someone let me know when we’re close to the Bears pick.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
How bout this question:
Is there anyone on the board that anyone thinks has a legit chance of becoming a starter this year or next?
If so, pick that dude. No matter what position.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
Um... Duke Robinson.
Or… almost any free safety has a legit chance to start on our team, because our safeties are crud.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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I think if we take a safety there is a shot
if you look at our history we have to play rookie CBs and S due to ineffectiveness and injury.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
right, but
we’ve got bodies there. do you see anybody left who would beat out those bodies and start and be significantly better?
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
I'm here, can anyone give me an update on whether we picked good or bad at our picks
Kick it to me... I'm open!
Depends on your level of optimism....
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
2 freak athletes on the D-line...
Iglesias at WR and a good CB. Pair the raw linemen with Marinelli and it’s looking good…
by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Apr 26, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Broncos took an OT. This could start a run on O-line
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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There's already been 9 safeties drafted...
in a weak draft class at the position.
The Bears are probably gonna have to find a solution on the current roster. Maybe Zachary Bowman?
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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let me try that again...
So who’s the best FS left that played his college ball below the Mason-Dixon?
by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Apr 26, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Chargers just took a Guard, right after Broncos took an OT
The run is forming
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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and ahead of Duke
I think we should not look his way. Something is just not right that everbody is walking away from. I am smelling bust..
Jamon Meredith or Duke
in the 5th would be freaking amazing.
I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad
Holy crap
Mereidith is still on the board….WoW
by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes... yes...
focus more on the line…
We went D-line 2 times today. Go back to O-line.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Duke's report
Offensive Guard | Senior | Oklahoma
Duke Robinson
Height: 6-5 | Weight: 329 | 40-Time: 5.27
Duke Robinson | Oklahoma Sooners
Official Bio
Strengths:
Huge frame with long arms…Great bulk…Outstanding strength…Very powerful…Tough and physical…Nasty and is a finisher…Gets a great push and can be a dominating run blocker…Is stout at the point of attack…Uses his hands well…Plays with good leverage and bends at the knees…Quick with decent mobility and range…Good awareness and instincts…Versatile…A lot of experience against top competition.
Weaknesses:
Can be a bit inconsistent…Not a great technician…Isn’t real light on his feet…Has lapses in concentration…Poor balance…Will get caught reaching at times…Will have some trouble with quicker defensive tackles…Work ethic has been questioned and tends to skate by on his natural ability…Little immature…Won’t be an ideal fit for every team.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Jamon Meridith
or Clemons please.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four.
Where are we going to keep
all these tackles on the roster?? Pace, Williams, shaffer, Omaliye already
We have some crud on the depth chart
Reed, Tyler G
Balogh, Cody T
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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The same place we keep all the defensive ends I guess
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four.
Difference is
this is Wale’s last year and we are grooming replacements. Potentially Anderson does not work out under Marinelli as well.
and Pierre Walters with one of our 7ths
I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad
3rd O-lineman taken in the last 3 picks....
Here’s where we gotta go O-line
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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last 4 picks
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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damn
Kropog fell all the way to the 5th. Good job by the Titans.
I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad
3 more picks
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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I think this is where
JA starts taking his small school no names.
I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad
Ogletree, Clemons, or Robinson
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
by ChiFan13 on Apr 26, 2009 1:01 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
+1
Couldn’t argue with any of those picks at this point. I’d still favor Robinson the most unless there is some issue with him no one in the media knows about.
Mayock just said the Robinson is dropping because of weight fluctuation and work-ethic concerns
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
its ok
Jay Cutler will whip into shape and give him a good work ethic
by DieHardBearsCubs on Apr 26, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
What's up with the FBs
Are there any good one’s left.
2 more picks!
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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I kinda liked Phillips with one of our 5ths
I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad
I think he went to the Ravens
I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad
I think Meredith could be this years Carl Nicks
Highly regarded at the beginning of the draft, falls to the 5th, wins a starting o-line job.
I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad
ShouldIWatch.com saved me time on Thursday...
checked it at halftime on my Tivo of the game.
by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Apr 26, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Our next pick is the one from the Cutler trade
I sure would love for this to be some guy who becomes a longtime starter.
Just because it would be sweeter.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
absolutely!
Couldn’t agree more. At the time when I heard we got them to throw in 5th rounder I figured it was a “worthless” throw-in but looking at some of the players left on the board, I’ve totally changed my attitude.
Let’s see what JA does.
Just let it be someone I've heard of
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four.
Its hard to get excited about a question mark.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four.
would prefer someone
we WILL hear about though
by Steve Ronkowski on Apr 26, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Did anybody see this:
General manager Jerry Angelo tried to trade his second-round draft pick for Anquan Boldin, and when that didn’t work out, he traded the Bears right out of the first day of the draft.
The Bears were hoping Ohio State wide receiver Brian Robiskie would slip to them, and when he didn’t come close to making it to No. 49, they explored options to get out of the pick and found a willing trade partner in Seattle.
by Twins Territory on Apr 26, 2009 1:11 PM CDT reply actions
Sounds like
just that to see how interested Arizona was, and then they still wanted a first.
by Twins Territory on Apr 26, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Damn, there are so many vaible options left on the board
I’d rather have James Casey over any WR available. He’s extremely versatile and could line up at WR or TE or H-back.
I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad
Johnny Knox
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
isn't johnny knox(ville)
an injury concern?
by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Apr 26, 2009 1:13 PM CDT reply actions
WE GOT KNOX!!!
FUCK YEAH!!!
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 26, 2009 1:13 PM CDT reply actions
Thing on Moore:
He was projected as a good fit for teams that use the cover two scheme and he could challenge quickly at right cornerback where Nathan Vasher and Corey Graham are.
by Twins Territory on Apr 26, 2009 1:15 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah!!!
Another WR, Adios Rashid Davis!!!!!! BYAH!!
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
Moore is Confident:
“I felt I was the best cornerback in the draft,’’ he said
Moore made the decision to leave school a year early but said he did so because he didn’t know what one more fall at Vanderbilt was going to do for him.
“I felt I was ready to go,‘’ he said. "I was in the best cornerback in the best conference playing against the best players. I didn’t think I was going to get too much better.’’
by Twins Territory on Apr 26, 2009 1:16 PM CDT reply actions
JA dear lord
does he know there is more than 3 colleges he can choose from?
Johnny Knox scout vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNFsIp26RlY
Why I love this pick?
Knox plays special teams and can return which means Davis has to be gone IMO…
Denver just traded up for a South Carolina WR...
…who was just sorta… meh.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
AHH chicago sports overload
trying to watch the halftime special on D Rose while also watching NFL network on the computer as they go over the bears draft picks. I was born with 2 ears but only one brain to process everything.
Scott wrights scouting report on Knox
Strengths:
Smooth athlete…Adequate height…Outstanding timed speed…Quick with great acceleration and a burst…Soft, reliable hands…Good body control and ball skills…Elusive…Nice vision and instincts…Solid route runner…Vertical threat who can really separate…Terrific production.
Weaknesses:
Doesn’t have the ideal bulk that you look for…Not very strong…Won’t break a lot of tackles…Trys hard but isn’t a great blocker…Worked as a return man but didn’t stand out…Is facing a big jump in competition.
Notes:
Started out at Tyler (TX) Junior College, where he was a 2nd Team All-American…Owns the ACU record for touchdown receptions…Was named 1st Team All-Lone Star Conference in 2007 and 2008…Had a strong showing at the Texas vs. The Nation all-star game (3 REC | 55 YDS | 1 TD)…Really caught peoples attention with his performance at the Scouting Combine…Intriguing speed and production…Profiles as a slot receiver at the next level and can also contribute on special teams.
I bet he's gonna suck.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Do we have a permanent scout at Abiline Christian?
I mean… seriously.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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So the Packers have 3 FB's on their roster now?
I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad
Question...
From NFL.com
“Negatives: Thin through the hips and legs. Gets a lot of his yardage after short routes, screens and swing passes. Lacks elite speed or quickness, but had enough to be special at the FCS level. Easily tripped up in the open field. Does not switch the ball to the outside hand. Despite his strong effort, he lacks the bulk and strength to be effective against NFL defenders. Dances and runs backward too much after the catch or on returns — will not get away with that at the next level.”
Didn’t he run the 3rd fastest 40 time at the combine and is known for his exceptional separation abilities?
If we're lucky as hell... we end up with a Lance Moore type of WR
But… realistically? Ugh. That’s why it’s round 5
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Can anyone look up the scouting report of Brandon Marshall coming out of college?
I know he went to central florida and was picked in the fourth round.
Obviously my point is Jay Cutler could make Knox a star like he made Marshall.
But... Marshall is a large physical WR. 6'4" 230
Knox is 5’ 11" 185
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Marshall had a draft grade of 70
Knox has a 65.
But comparing them is like comparing steve smith to randy moss.
How ironic that Meredith and Duke go back to back
I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad
Damn
There went Clemons
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four.
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