2009 NFL Draft Round 5 - Open Thread
by Adam T on Apr 26, 2009 1:16 PM CDT
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PrintJerry and the boys are making good moves. Lets see if they can keep it going.
| Round | Pick | Player | Pos. | College | ||
| 3 | 68 | Jarron Gilbert | DE | San Jose St. | ||
| 3 | 99 | Juaquin Iglesias |
WR |
Oklahoma |
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| 4 | 105 | Henry Melton |
DE |
Texas |
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| 4 | 119 | D.J. Moore |
CB |
Vanderbilt |
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| 5 | 140 | Johnny Knox |
WR |
Abilene Christian | ||
| 5 | 154 | Marcus Freeman |
LB |
Ohio State |
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| 6 | 190 | |||||
| 7 | 246 | |||||
| 7 | 251 | |||||
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Do you guys think we'll target a free agent WR too?
by Twins Territory on Apr 26, 2009 1:17 PM CDT reply actions
I doubt it. They will likely carry 4-5 WR and a practice team guy.
They don’t want to the development of these rookie receivers.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
Looks like I missed some excitment
But I brought Rice Crispy treats. That helps, right?
Formerly HBCG
Without question
love them Rice Crispy treats.
Welcome back.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
Johnny Knox scout vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNFsIp26RlY
Why I love this pick?
Knox plays special teams and can return which means Davis has to be gone IMO…
Knox is freakishly fast.
Mayock said he clocked him at a 4.28. If he can learn to run proper routes and maybe put on a couple pounds, he may have some real potential. Of course we don’t exactly have a track record of developing receivers, but I’m trying to stay positive on the football equivalant of a kid’s Christmas Eve. I just hope these guys don’t turn out to be a bunch of socks and a sweater from grandma. Or a dreidel, for those so inclined.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay
Sounds like the Bears view Knox as a work in progress.
by Twins Territory on Apr 26, 2009 1:19 PM CDT reply actions
Twins
not going to harp on you… but if you’re going to cut and paste… a source would be appreciated when you do… and i’m sure the source would appreciate it too.
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by jameslcrockett on Apr 26, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds like harping to me
Just ask where he heard it if you’re curious.
And if the source is concerned about being unsourced on the interent… they have issues.
Formerly HBCG
Yeah
but what was replied to wasn’t pasted. I’ll do so the the Kiper’s thing..
by Twins Territory on Apr 26, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Twins
yes, I know… I was noticing it from the other page… and below was better.
Allie… I’m really not that interested. But I wouldn’t want anyone doing it to me without at least posting a link. Anybody in the creative business including the people here at WCG would feel the same.
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by jameslcrockett on Apr 26, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Kiper's top remaining:
Cornelius Ingram TE FLORIDA
Jamon Meredith OT S CAROLINA
James Casey TE RICE
Duke Robinson OG OKLAHOMA
Coye Francies CB SAN JOSE ST
Marcus Freeman OLB OHIO ST
Cameron Morrah TE CALIFORNIA
Jasper Brinkley ILB S CAROLINA
Gerald Cadogan OT PENN STATE
Ricky Jean-Francois DT LSU
by Twins Territory on Apr 26, 2009 1:20 PM CDT reply actions
my impressions...
wha?
good pick
wha?
good pick
wha???
is this a trend
Whoa,,,What
Did Mort just say AZ called us about Boldin and it didn’t come together?
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
Well, what the fuck would we give them?
Ah, yeah, Ken, we’ll give you our next 5th round pick for Boldin. Straight up.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
I don't know
but if AZ called us they knew we didn’t have a first this year or next.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
On Inside the Bears
It said we had some discussions and offered a second round pick. I think they want a first or just keep him. Also, on the Sun-Times today Angelo was quoted saying we’re probably done with it.
by Twins Territory on Apr 26, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Well yeah
We have nothing to offer now. Jerry would make a move if it was feasible. At the same time, I’m not too keen on giving Boldin 9 mil a year while also trying to sign Cutler to a long-term deal.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
Money?
Who cares? Isn’t the cap going buh-bye after this year? The Bears have money coming out their kiesters… time to buy buy buy buy buy buy buy
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by jameslcrockett on Apr 26, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe
But if they could afford him this year, they could afford him next year.
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by jameslcrockett on Apr 26, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Ding Ding Ding
ChiFan13 wins.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay
Wow
Good ol Virginia has given me many a headaches in my time.
by Chitownproduct on Apr 27, 2009 3:39 AM CDT up reply actions
I highly recommend
NFL Network, for those of you who have it. IMO, they do a hell of a lot better than ESPN. At everything, not just the draft. Just try to tune out Jamie Dukes and it’s all good.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay
Trying to tune out jamie dukes
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 26, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Is the same as trying to blow your brains out
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 26, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I so wish
They could have gotten Lincoln Kennedy back. They replaced him with Dukes when Linc decided to try his AFL escapade. I have to say though, I got to see him play a couple times since he was with the Tampa Storm. It was like watching a grown man playing pop-warner lol. He threw DL’s around like they were freaking rag-dolls.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay
They need to dump Dion too
But he at least knows what the hell he’s talking about when he gets serious. It’s just his obnoxious BS that drives me nuts. I was surprised how knowledgable he is when he drops the “prime-time” persona and actually breaks down the game.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay
Deion pisses me off so bad
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 27, 2009 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I LOVE the Knox pick
He’s a good ST player and he’s quick as hell. And he doesn’t drop balls. If Rashied Davis is still a Bear, I’ll be pissed.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
Unless
Knox can line up at safety, i think this is a terrible pick.
He's more of a guy for two years down the road. Not this season.
by Twins Territory on Apr 26, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
a good mix of
win now, win later so far. now it’s time for a DB for “now” though.
by Steve Ronkowski on Apr 26, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Knox
he’s not going to lineup at safety or receiver. If impresses enough, he might be a kr or pr… but I can’t wait to watch this guy fly on special teams at the very least.
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by jameslcrockett on Apr 26, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Scoot wrights scouting on Knox
Strengths:
Smooth athlete…Adequate height…Outstanding timed speed…Quick with great acceleration and a burst…Soft, reliable hands…Good body control and ball skills…Elusive…Nice vision and instincts…Solid route runner…Vertical threat who can really separate…Terrific production.
Weaknesses:
Doesn’t have the ideal bulk that you look for…Not very strong…Won’t break a lot of tackles…Trys hard but isn’t a great blocker…Worked as a return man but didn’t stand out…Is facing a big jump in competition.
Notes:
Started out at Tyler (TX) Junior College, where he was a 2nd Team All-American…Owns the ACU record for touchdown receptions…Was named 1st Team All-Lone Star Conference in 2007 and 2008…Had a strong showing at the Texas vs. The Nation all-star game (3 REC | 55 YDS | 1 TD)…Really caught peoples attention with his performance at the Scouting Combine…Intriguing speed and production…Profiles as a slot receiver at the next level and can also contribute on special teams.
I take enough about my spelling and typing
cool to give it back once in awhile.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
He tries hard
That’s fine with me. If he’s willing to work and won’t be a little bitch about working hard, I’ll cut him some slack.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
From Inside the Bears:
Curtis Taylor, LSU
Michael Hamlin, Clemson
Chris Clemons, Clemson
Otis Wiley, Michigan State
Troy Nolan, Arizona State
The Bears poked around a little bit on Clemons in the last two weeks and there is a chance they go with Wiley. Stay tuned here.
by Twins Territory on Apr 26, 2009 1:26 PM CDT reply actions
QUICK POLL:
If AZ called and asked for Hester along with our 5th rounder for Boldin, would you agree?
I say hell yes.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
Is there a bonus...
For how quick I would say yes to that deal? like some kind of immunity idol win or something?
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by jameslcrockett on Apr 26, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
I like Hester… something about a homegrown guy who will get better and is cheaper, a lot cheaper than Bouldin. And Hester can do some things that Bouldin can’t, but we’re not using him for that anyway… and as I said above… the Bears will have as much money to do whatever they want next year anyway.
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by jameslcrockett on Apr 26, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
We have Danieal Manning and Johnny Knox for returning now
So we’d be traded a mediocre WR for Boldin.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
No Way
Hester is showing a strong development a wide receiver and has Steve Smith potential. Boldin is a great #2 receiver without deep speed. Boldins stats suffer severely against upper echelon corners, we are gonna pay him a ton of money to see his stats fail ecause we don’t have a Larry Fitzgeral; it would be Mushin Muhammad part duex
http://www.chicagobears.com/multimedia/index.asp?mm_file_id=1416&play_clip=Y
Kick it to me... I'm open!
Stupidest line I've seen in draft anaylsis
From NFL.com:
“One of the great things about being Iglesiasis’ teammate, if you need a hair cut his dad is a barber”
Formerly HBCG
it's all about intangibles for JA
like how hot our picks’ mothers are
by Steve Ronkowski on Apr 26, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds to me
like we might try bulking some of these players up…seems like some of their only weaknesses are not big and bulky enough…maybe we’re just gonna fatten em up a bit!
Luckily...
This is Chicago we’re talking about…we have Portillo’s and Giordano’s and Unos, Dues, Ginos East and a hot dog stand on every corner… we’re way good there.
Oh, you still wanted them to move afterwards…
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by jameslcrockett on Apr 26, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
isnt that what
Italian beef sandwiches, Chicago Deep dish pizza, and Vienna hotdogs and burgers are for?
by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
you forgot
the polish sausage! you must take a pilgrimage to maxwell st. as penance.
by Steve Ronkowski on Apr 26, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
i just left from there for R@R for 18 days
I ate so many Portillos Big Beef with jalepenos i think i mooed in my sleep.
by Chitownproduct on Apr 27, 2009 3:53 AM CDT up reply actions
need a plan
*S*hoo*T*, I agre*E* about bulking our playe*R*s up, if *O*nly we qu*I*ckly ha*D* some *S*ecret plan that could put a bunch of pure muscle weight on these guys…
well they are american as apple pie
didnt you see the commerical on espn
by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
his scouting picture
had that sort of “glass half empty” look to it
by Steve Ronkowski on Apr 26, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
For anyone interested...
Bulls 52
Celtics 51
3rd Quarter
by Twins Territory on Apr 26, 2009 1:33 PM CDT reply actions
In other news
The Cubs are dropping like flies. Lee left the game. Don’t know why yet.
Formerly HBCG
Lee
At least he wasn’t really performing, and the Cubs have a replacement ready for him… of course they were using his replacement in RF… this was an extremely poorly constructed ball club from the start of the season and they won’t survive these injuries after having sold off Mark DeRosa for nothing.
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by jameslcrockett on Apr 26, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Busy weekend...
NFL Draft
NHL Playoffs
NBA Playoffs
Baseball
by Twins Territory on Apr 26, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Aramis has a calf strain
Bradley has issues too many to list. And Marmol has a knee sprain.
Formerly HBCG
So positive things
And your RF (Hoff-something that rhymes with burger) can’t field a bouncing ball (see: Thursday’s game).
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
Hmm
Like I said, I’m not a Cubs fan, but I was of the impression that the Cubs were solidly built. I gotta stop listening to my Cub fan friends in that case. lol
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
They are.
They’re just paying back karma at an accelerated rate. Most bench players have a weakness in their game, or they’d be starting somewhere.
it's 3-0
after the first inning… we can look at it a little positive. And we still have Harden on the mound.
Just got a twitter… just neck spasms… just day-to-day… which for the Cubs means a week.
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by jameslcrockett on Apr 26, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
The Cubs have to bite the bullet on one of the day-to-day guys soon...
…and DL somebody. We’re down to a 2-man bench here, 3 if you include Milton.
Milton
which you shouldn’t… they need to bite the bullet on releasing Miles and Gathright for some people who can produce and might play… AND cutting the pitching staff down to 11 guys… which means jettisoning Patton and Cotts because combined they can’t get anybody out. And the Cubs right now, can’t afford to have people on their roster for the long-term or short-term who can’t do their jobs.
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by jameslcrockett on Apr 26, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
And to use MB you have to use someone else too
cuz he can’t run.
And the next person who tells me I should be positive gets kicked in the shins. I’m so tired of being told how I should feel.
Formerly HBCG
more negativity/deadhorse beating
without Lee… they HAVE to put Soriano back in the middle of the lineup… they’re completely out of guys who can bat in the middle and produce… they have Theriot, Fukudome and Johnson who can get on base and play small to set up for the surviving run producers
Here’s the lineup:
1. Theriot ss
2. Johnson cf
3. Fukudome rf
4. Soriano lf
5. Hoffpauir 1b
6. Soto c
7. Fontenot 3b
8. Miles 2b
It ain’t rocket science. I can pull lineups like this out of my ass in my sleep, I don’t know why MLB managers have such a problem with it.
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by jameslcrockett on Apr 26, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't want to talk about lineups
that is overrated.
And I don’t care if you think you can do the job better than lou.
Formerly HBCG
they're not
they’re really not overrated. Teams with good lineups score runs and win ball games… teams with bad lineups that don’t effectively set up their run producers fail… epically. Lots of teams have done far, far more with far, far less than the Cubs have… healthy or not.
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by jameslcrockett on Apr 26, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
This is not the time or place for this convo...
…but the effect of moving the pitcher to the leadoff spot is, what, 10-15 runs a season? And that’s probably 5-8x more drastic than any move that’s under consideration when people discuss lineups. Not a big deal.
so...
I don’t care about leadoff hitters, etc… I want guys who get on base leading in to guys who can drive them in… having our 8 hitter and the pitcher/pinch hitter spot leading into Soriano is not an effective use of resources and cost this team much, much more than 10-15 runs. That’s just off of his homers.
I talk about this everywhere and anywhere with anybody I can. Unlike discussing meaningless 5th-round draft picks, this is life-and-death stuff. lol j/k
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by jameslcrockett on Apr 26, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
point belaboring
Going into a game with Reed Johnson as your fifth hitter with a rhp on the mound… will end up in situations like we just saw… bases loaded, only scoring one run. Completely because of poor lineup construction.
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by jameslcrockett on Apr 26, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
if by o line you mean
Duke Robinson, then yes.
by DieHardBearsCubs on Apr 26, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
100 and counting
Any team that hasn’t won a ring in a century doesn’t play baseball. They do have some great bars around that shithol of a field.
Still two OLs with 3rd round grades left
Meredith is 66 on the Scouts Inc. board. Robinson is 74th.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
3 minutes in the third...
Bulls 65
Celtics 58
by Twins Territory on Apr 26, 2009 1:44 PM CDT reply actions
HOLY SHIT
Soriano just got beaned in the head
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
there was a
“their” in there at one point
by Steve Ronkowski on Apr 26, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Someboy needs to fix that Cubs mojo this week.
Sheesh
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
LOL Marvin Lewis just said
that he’s comfortable with Cedric Benson as his back..
by DieHardBearsCubs on Apr 26, 2009 1:46 PM CDT reply actions
hopefully
on something that treats delusions.
by Steve Ronkowski on Apr 26, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
but that Rice TE James Casey is interesting, too
Just one of those all-round football players… the kind they used to list as “Athlete.” Anybody here old enough to remember Brian Baschnagel?
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
I say that, and he gets drafted by Houston.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
one more pick
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Clemons?
I would have to bet FS at the very least….
by CloudyFuture on Apr 26, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Well...
Bulls just went behind 70-65 after the 4th…
by Twins Territory on Apr 26, 2009 1:52 PM CDT reply actions
I'm sensing a mindless pick coming up.....
We’re overdue for one….
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
I bettin he won't be till we get Duke lol
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
LB Ohio ST
Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Beer in one hand - brat in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride
Here we go...
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
Ohio State?
: / lol
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
I'm OK with that
Looks like a great special teams prospect.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
WTF? No more guys from Abilene Christian?
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Freeman report
Production 1 2004: Freeman appears in all 13 games of his true freshman season. 2005: Freeman sustains a season-ending injury in the season opener and the NCAA grants him a medical red-shirt (see durability). 2006: Freeman starts 11 of the 13 games he appears in accumulating 71 total tackles, two interceptions and six pass breakups. 2007: Freeman starts all 13 games accumulating 109 total tackles including 66 solo tackles, 9.5 tackles-for-loss and 1.5 sacks. He also breaks up five passes and forces two fumbles. 2008: Freeman starts all 13 games accumulating 84 tackles, 9.5 tackles-for-loss and 3.5 sacks. He breaks up four passes and recovers a fumble.
Height-Weight-Speed 3 Adequate height, bulk and top-end speed.
Durability 4 2005: Sustains a knee injury in the season opener, Staph infection slows recovery and misses the entire season. 2008: Sustains ankle injury and it hinders him for much of the year.
Character 2 Excellent special teams’ players, made great strides during time at Ohio State and willing to line up on the inside or the outside.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
Freeman Outside Linebacker specific Traits
Instincts/Recognition 3 Hesitates for a split second and takes some false steps making it easier for blockers to get into position but keeps head up, locates the ball carrier and quickly recovers.
Pursuit/Point of Attack 3 Elite upper body strength and can keep blockers off frame but still inconsistent in this area and takes too long to disengage when blocker is able to lock on. Keeps shoulders square to the line of scrimmage and shows good lateral mobility when scraping down the line of scrimmage. Closes down cutback lanes by taking sound pursuit angles but also creates running lanes by trying to run around blockers rather than stacking them up in the hole.
Tackling 2 Has developed into a fairly reliable open field tackler that shows good body control in space, wraps up on contact and flashes the ability to deliver the big hit.
Pass Coverage 3 Keeps receivers in front of him and shows adequate burst coming out of backpedal. Appears to read quarterback’s eyes but isn’t aggressive enough and lacks ideal ball skills. Though lacks elite man-to-man cover skills shows adequate burst coming out of cuts and can hold own in man coverage when gets safety help over the top. Has some experience lining up over slot receivers and can reroute them hips are a bit stiff and can’t match up with slot receivers in man coverage.
Pass Rusher 3 Quick enough to turn the corner in the NFL and shows adequate-to-good closing speed when gets a clear path to the quarterback. Times blitzes well. (see 2008 Minnesota game) Relentless but doesn’t show a variety of pass rush moves and doesn’t protect legs making him vulnerable to cut blocks. (see first half of 2007 Washington game)
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
I still would have rather had a safety
But this guys seems like a legit pick for ST…
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
This bulls game just got really crazy
Great acting jobs by both teams. Oscar most likely goes to Big Baby davis.
Another Freeman report
Marcus Freeman – Scouting Report
OLB – Outside linebacker
- / Ohio State
Scout: Luke Chandler
Date: March 9th, 2009
Measurables
Height: 6’0"
Weight: 239
40 Time: 4.74
Bench Press: 30
Vertical: 37"
3 Cone: 6.98
Best Fit Position/Role: Starting weak-side linebacker
Ideal Scheme: Tampa 2
Strengths: Freeman is a quick linebacker with above average athleticism. He is exceptionally well built and muscular, with good thickness throughout. He changes directions quickly and is a superb athlete for the position. He moves well laterally and is a three down linebacker. His speed allows him to make plays that other linebackers cannot make. He defends the pass well, and has good awareness in zone coverage. He does not often bite on play-action fakes, and he deciphers plays quickly. Freeman has the kind of building blocks that coaches love.
Weaknesses: His lack of height can be a detriment at times. Despite having great workout ability and athleticism, it doesn’t always show up on the field. He struggles against power run teams that can get physical blockers into his body. At times he lacks the aggression and killer instinct. Too often he’ll allow plays to develop in front of him, rather than attempting to break up the play. He also relies too heavily on his speed to mask his lack of technique. He often will out-run a blocker or take bad angles just to avoid contact.
Overall: Freeman has a good deal of upside and should do well in the NFL. He has great speed, quickness, and a base to build upon. He has suspect technique, but he is a highly teachable player. He will likely sit for at least a season, and will be a strong special teams player. If placed in a defense that will allow him to flow to the ball and keep blockers off of him, he could be a strong force at outside linebacker.
Injury Concerns: He has overall durability concerns. Redshirted 2005 season due to knee ligament tear. Stuggled with a ankle sprain in 2008 season.
Could Be As Good As: Morlon Greenwood – Houson Texans
Worst Case: James Anderson – Carolina Panthers
Where He’ll Probably Go: Mid 2nd to Late 3rd
Where He Should Go: Early 3rd
What scouting service is that?
I like the way it’s structured.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
well it seems like great value in the 5th
since everyone scouting report says he should go in the 3rd
Bears calling it a value pick
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Live on Bears.com
Freeman is a WILL for the Bears, but could play all 3.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Talks about Knox's athleticism and speed
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Freeman
Wow… i think this is an impressive pick and I can’t give enough credit for it.
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i will remember
All these Jerry’s Kids “VALUE PICKS” when we let in 30 points on 300 yd pass games every week…….. so glad we dont have a FS yet
the reason for the pass yards
was a lack of a pass rush, which they addressed today
by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Apr 26, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Freeman was ranked the #19 best available player on day 2
DraftCountdown.com’s best available on day 2
The Bears got 4 of the top 19 guys available! Pretty damn good!
1. Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech
2. Shawn Nelson, TE, Southern Miss
3. Rashad Johnson, S, Alabama
4. Jared Cook, TE, South Carolina
5. Jamon Meredith, OT, South Carolina
6. Cornelius Ingram, TE, Florida
7. Duke Robinson, OG, Oklahoma
8. Jarron Gilbert, DT, San Jose St.
9. D.J. Moore, CB, Vanderbilt
10. Lawrence Sidbury, DE, Richmond
11. Derrick Williams, WR, Penn St.
12. Troy Kropog, OT, Tulane
13. Alex Magee, DT, Purdue
14. Travis Beckum, TE, Wisconsin
15. Chase Coffman, TE, Missouri
16. Juaquin Iglesias, WR, Oklahoma
17. Andre Brown, RB, North Carolina St.
18. Chip Vaughn, S, Wake Forest
19. Marcus Freeman, OLB, Ohio St.
20. T.J. Lang, OT, Eastern Michigan
21. Donald Washington, CB, Ohio St.
22. Shonn Greene, RB, Iowa
23. Kaluka Maiava, OLB, USC
24. Mike Thomas, WR, Arizona
25. Kraig Urbik, OG, Wisconsin
26. James Casey, TE, Rice
27. Louis Murphy, WR, Florida
28. Coye Francies, CB, San Jose St.
29. Ramses Barden, WR, Cal Poly
30. Rhett Bomar, QB, Sam Houston St.
31. Rashad Jennings, RB, Liberty
32. Victor Harris, CB, Virginia Tech
33. Jasper Brinkley, ILB, South Carolina
34. Antoine Caldwell, C, Alabama
35. Bradley Fletcher, CB, Iowa
36. Mike Wallace, WR, Ole Miss
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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I've only had one "uh-oh" moment all day
On balance, I think we’ve done great with the picks we’ve had.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
ESPN's top 10 available on Day 2
Link here: I don’t have ESPN Insider, the list is actually top 25.
1. D.J. Moore, CB, Vanderbilt
2. Rashad Johnson, S, Alabama
3. Cornelius Ingram, TE, Florida
4. Lawrence Sidbury, DE, Richmond
5. Shawn Nelson, TE, Southern Mississippi
6. Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech
7. Jared Cook, TE, South Carolina
8. Jarron Gilbert, DT, San Jose State
9. Jamon Meredith, OT, South Carolina
10. Shonn Greene, RB, Iowa
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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SLB is huge in 4-3
thats why i really like this pick. this guy will start for us on a high percentage of defensive snaps
The Bears reps said he will be a WILL... right on Bears website
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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i like our safeties
i think glen earl and bullocks will both play well. we also needed a weak side lb, and freeman was better than any safety that is currently on the board
just venting
b/c the bulls arent helping what i think of some of the draft
would have liked
FS and a OL or two, not sold on all the free agents we brought in, also need quality depth for injuries in case
You fill short-term needs with free agents.
Which there will be more of when teams get into camp and start cutting players they don’t need/can’t fit into cap after the draft.
and on the bulls
close doesnt count winning does
seeing as we don't pick again til 190
I’m going to get some stuff done/enjoy the weather outside.
Formerly HBCG
But I'm going to wait
I can’t stand Judd Sirott and he’s on right now… so I’ll stay for this inning.
Formerly HBCG
prolly a OL in the 7th
no FS prolly and a couple guys that are values acorrding to JA …. expect one more LB for ST
We gotta aim for some guys who have fallen
Like G Duke Robinson, or RB Rashad Jennings
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Anything you get past the 5th Round is gravy
So I’m thinking about how the guys we acquired so far have changed the roster.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
No way
you do need to field a team and have some kind of cohesion and overall it is a team sport, best available is a luxury that never happens or happens only with a couple times a draft
Obviously a player’s fit for the team’s system and their “intangibles” factor into whether or not they’re the best available for your team, to the extent that those things matter. Not every team has the same idea – or even SHOULD have the same idea – of who is the best available player.
But once you’ve identified who that best available player is for your team, that’s the guy you take, regardless if it’s a position of need or of depth for your team.
Buh Bye DUKE
Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Beer in one hand - brat in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride
Damn. Duke is gone...
OK… my next pick at Guard is
Paul Fanaika
Arizona St.
6-5 1/8
327
5.50
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Offensive line
I’m an O-line junkie, and I’ll just say that I’m still waiting for the year when we go into the draft and load up on beef. Mebbe next year.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
agree
team with the best O and D lines wins…… I just hope to hell ours stays healthy, cuz we havent drafted any help for our O line…..dont like it
Wow
The Dolphins are taking all of ChiFans picks.
My best friend is a phins fan. He’s never gonna stop laughing about this
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 26, 2009 2:32 PM CDT reply actions
shaffer
being knocked down to backup guard and tackle is good for our o-line. i think the line looks much better (on paper) than in a lot of years.
That guy Freeman has a injury history
Bad injury history
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 26, 2009 2:34 PM CDT reply actions
5th round pick...
he’s not going to be perfect. I’d rather get talent there that has an injury history than roster filler that’ll stay healthy.
by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Apr 26, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Uhh
How can he contribute if injuries hinder his progression? Why not get somebody healthy who can has talent?
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 26, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
their all talented
that’s why they’re in the draft.
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 26, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, but some of them are talented in a practice squad sort of way...
…and some of them are talented in an NFL team sort of way.
if you're on a practice squad,
then you’re on an NFL team.
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 26, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
whoops fergot to delete can.
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 26, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Cardinals just took the MAMMOTH Herman Johnson
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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what are you talking about
he’s only 6’7’’ 364…
by lexmarklover on Apr 26, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
GG Nate Davis to San Fran.
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 26, 2009 2:43 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah, I'm sitting with GG
right now. I just jumped on here. Lol.
GO NATE DAVIS!! :D
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
by Ashley Czuba on Apr 26, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't recommend falling down the stairs
It hurts.
Hopefully I just took some of the Cub karma away…
Formerly HBCG
Look at it this way.
Imagine that you and a bunch of your buddies were allowed to draft from Best Buy, instead of buying stuff from there like you normally do. Every draft spot has a dollar value attatched to it – you pay “slot” for that item, regardless of its normal price tag.
The ideal is to draft something that is worth more than what the slot value is. The next best thing is to draft something worth slot. If you have a 50" plasma TV and an Xbox 360 both left on the board, you draft the plasma TV even if you already have a TV and don’t have an Xbox. You can always pitck up an Xbox in the post-draft free agents or get someone else’s used Xbox from GameStop or whatever after the cuts.
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