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NightLink: Will the Packers Be In the Mix in 2009?

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This was the first year in ages that I missed the NFL draft, and today I have been having a crash-review of all of the hoopla.  A ton of stories came from the draft, and we have several new Bears players that we hope will make a solid contribution to the 2009 season.

But, one thing in particular jumped out in my mind, and I haven't been able to quite figure it out... Did the Packers just get good?

All around the NFL world, the Bears and the Vikings have been said to have the best shot at winning the NFC North.  And with the 6-10 Packers and 0-16 Lions last year, how could anyone argue that either could make a run in 2009?

But what keeps popping up in my mind is how good, really good, the Packers could be this year.  Already having a roster made up of Aaron Rogers, Ryan Grant, Donald Driver, Greg Jennings, Aaron Kampman, Nick Barnett, AJ Hawk , and the additions of BJ Raji and Clay Matthews in this year's draft, the Packers might try and sneak up on some folks this year. 

With the 3rd easiest schedule in 2009 (games against the Bengals, Browns, Lions, Bucs, 49ers), the Pack could feasibly win 9 or 10 games... maybe more.  I don't know how good the Packers will be, but I do know that game #1 on September 13th might be a little more important than we think.

 

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Nice to see you back Geaux

As much as I hate to admit this, I think they got ALOT better. I see both Raji and Matthews as immediate starters but I don’t see Raji being “good” until 2010 or ‘11. They lost alot of close games last year, due to the defense and Rodgers not being able to close them out, so we’ll see.

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by Acreman20 on Apr 27, 2009 7:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed...

they will be good in a couple of years. But It usually takes about 3 years for DTs to make an impact. Since in a 3-4 defense, the NT is pretty much the most important part of the defense. I don’t see their defense being much better than last year, especially since it will probably take at least one season for them to become accustomed to the 3-4.

by chase17 on Apr 27, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

The NFC North. . .

. . .will prove to be the 2nd most competitive division in the NFL, behind the NFC East. Just judging off of the offseason moves, both the Bears and Packers can make credible (on-paper) arguments for the title going into the season. . .

by ChiCity85 on Apr 27, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

really the packers finished 6-10

and their switching defensive schemes, you obviously don’t understand what an undertaking that is. Expect the pack to finish slightly better and the Bears to make the playoffs barring injuries

If you want to crown em...

by JohnnyTruant on Apr 27, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

We have an early Bye week and that could be bad for us. The Pack may have drafted well but they also have to adjust to a new defensive scheme under a new defensive coordinator and other coaching positions. But we have become a supreme force to be reckoned with. I know it’s easy once something huge as happened to downplay the impact of it once the excitement has subsided but we have Jay Cutler as our QB. The piece of the true puzzle that has stopped us from being in the playoffs and even to a Super Bowl victory is now secured, not to mention I think we’ve just had a very successful draft for picking so late. The Pack may be getting better but we’ve become great and are a threat to every team in the NFL and I can’t wait to play them and any other team this year.

by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Apr 27, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed and Agreed

When a team switches to a whole new defensive scheme it takes a period of adjustment. Just look at Dallas. A 4-3 their whole time with Bill Parcells and switched to a 3-4 with Wade Phillips. The thing is you need certain players to make the switch and it takes a couple drafts and some serious FA and then on top of that just getting used to it. Thats why the Big D has sucked the last couple years and they can’t even make the Playoffs. That being said, The packers are nipping at our heels, it would be very unwise to underestimate them just from a tradition standpoint.

Minny…doesn’t scare me however, last year they barely streaked by us, won’t happen this year.

by Chitownproduct on Apr 28, 2009 2:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Right thought, wrong example

Dallas was a 3-4 under Parcells. Parcells has pretty much always run a 3-4 wherever he goes.

by TCBullfrog on Apr 28, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good analysis

Last season, however, I was certain that the Pack and the Bears were going to have their ‘08 season situations reversed – I didn’t see us being above .500 and saw a young and talented Packers team being in a good position for a playoff run. I think with their shift in defensive scheme, Grant’s somewhat inconsistent performance and knack for coughing up the ball, and my suspicion that Aaron Rodgers isn’t all that he is cracked up to be (above all, he’s proven to be rather injury prone) that it’ll be another rebuilding year for the Pack.

by Steve Ronkowski on Apr 27, 2009 7:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Good post and welcome back home

but honestly, I Don’t think anybody wrote the packers off. I said it before, the pack were a 13-3 team that happened to finish 6-10.

be that as it may, I don’t think the packers will be the favorites in 2009 because of the defensive scheme switch. I doubt BJ Raji will have a significant impact his rookie season, Clay Matthews is questionable talent, and I’m banking that Hawk is gonna struggle on the inside.

I think it will take another season till they become dangerous.

Now Geaux, I understand your initials are GB, but don’t ever do this again. This post is too pro-Packer :)

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by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 27, 2009 7:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Lmao.

Noted.

But, just to clarify, I’m not saying they are the favorites, and them shifting to the 3-4 may set them back a season, but it could be dangerous to overlook them in the North. They had a good draft, and have a lot of upside-potential.

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by Dane Noble on Apr 27, 2009 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

gotcha

If there’s any team to look out for in the north this season It would be Sota. Tavaris Jackson looked real good towards the end of the season and if Harvin does live up to his potential(which I don’t think he will) the Bears are in for a long season.

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by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 27, 2009 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bennett has a better chance

of “living up to his potential” than Harvin does this season.

Minnesota is dangerous as always, but I think we have less “ifs” than they do this year.

by TCBullfrog on Apr 28, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

No doubt

I think they will improve in certain ways, although I think the defensive switch will hurt them. But I don’t think they will be a bad team in ‘09. And though I would bet against it, it wouldn’t surprise me to see them win the division.

by TCBullfrog on Apr 28, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ryan Grant got paid

and now he’s done, he doesn’t care and he doesn’t have the drive, who else is even worth pound the rock on the Packers? no one

If you want to crown em...

by JohnnyTruant on Apr 27, 2009 7:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Watched all the footage yesterday after each pick. Good lookin out though.

As much as I hate to say it, I believe our whole division got a little better. I still think we will win our division and be playoff bound, but our division games should be really exciting this year no doubt.

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Apr 27, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Raji's overrated.

But they were by far the unluckiest team in the league last year – I could see Green Bay 10 – 6, Chicago 9 – 7, Minnesota 8 – 8. They do need a running back though, Ryan Grant is equally overrated.

However, I do like the strategy Green Bay uses with Ryan Grant. Keep him out for eight weeks, then finally put him in after the D-linemen on the other teams have gotten beaten up for those eight weeks, then get 900, 1000 yards. I wonder if we’ll see more of that.

I’m a big Aaron Rodgers booster though.

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by ES46NE10 on Apr 27, 2009 8:09 PM CDT reply actions  

we both agree about Ryan Grant

but remember the beginning of last season how many close games the bears lost? why say the bears could be 9-7 and not say they could be 12-5 very easily, remember how close Atlanta (Matt Ryan proves he deserves to be there 1 sec left play), Tampa (Tillman’s after the play had ended sack), Carolina (Bears are up 17-3 go on to lose it).

There were a lot of other games where the bears were very close, a lot of people forget that too. Hopefully Cutler is the catalyst to ignite the offense of my dreams.

If you want to crown em...

by JohnnyTruant on Apr 27, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

And... the Bears could've just as easily been 5-11 last year

Just because you can look back and say, IF we didn’t blow the lead with about a minute left against the Panthers, Bucs, and Falcons… we’d be 12-4, doesn’t mean you should’ve been 12-4.

The same can be said for every team in the league, because the majority of games are decided by one or two key plays.

Eagles fans can say, "if we just tried to roll out McNabb once at the goal-line, we would’ve beat the Bears."

Vikings fans could say, "if we didn’t get that punt blocked for a TD, or had thrown that last interception, we would’ve beat the Bears."

Saints fans could say, "if we didn’t blow the lead with less than 2 minutes left, we would’ve beaten the Bears."

Packer fans can say, "if that punt didn’t hit Jarrett Bush, we would’ve beat the Bears."

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Apr 27, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

eh 5-11 is pushing it

but that’s my point exactly, the NFL isn’t horseshoes, the only thing that matters is the W

If you want to crown em...

by JohnnyTruant on Apr 27, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

don’t have much evidence to point to but a serious hunch tells me Raji is a bonafide grade A BUST. Like Mandarich 2.0 style…..I’ve seen his college work and it is impressive but watching the guy on draft day just made me think this guy is going to wash out and do so relatively quick.

I also believe (in a very biased opinion) that our Cutler-led offense will prevail handily if not dominate against their new 3-4 defense. After all Cutler cut his teeth against this type of D in his first 3 years in Denver. Still the Pack has a lot of talent and I can’t stand to watch another drubbing like we got in Lambeau last year. Makes me want to vomit and burn something.

by reefermadness3 on Apr 27, 2009 8:36 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm not sure how good the packers will do this year

The transition to 4-3 can be tough.

Formerly HBCG

by Allie on Apr 27, 2009 8:40 PM CDT reply actions  

And to a 3-4...

:)

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by Dane Noble on Apr 27, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also,

welcome home. Hope you had a great vacation!

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by Allie on Apr 27, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks ma'am.

:)

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by Dane Noble on Apr 27, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Welcome back GB!

The Pack will only go as far as their defense takes them. Obviously, I like their offense a lot, but switching to the 3-4 when they were successful two years ago is a short-term mistake. I can see them improving by 2-3 games next year at the most; 9-7 sounds about right to me.

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by propheteer on Apr 27, 2009 9:03 PM CDT reply actions  

a healthy Rodgers could make the difference

I don’t believe he even practiced at all after the 1st half of the season, his shoulder was that banged up. But the guy played through it, and played well – if he stays upright next season, they could surprise a lot of people.

by Waylon on Apr 27, 2009 9:14 PM CDT reply actions  

with our own new improved D-line

I’m guessing we can do our part in week one to help make sure he gets to know the grass a bit better this season. The Butkus disclaimer applies, of course.

by Steve Ronkowski on Apr 27, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

In response to your title,

my answer is no. Haight will strike all the doubters away :)

Welcome back, GB. The NightLinks weren’t up to the usual standards.

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 27, 2009 10:26 PM CDT reply actions  

LMAO!

Of course he will. And thanks sir!

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by Dane Noble on Apr 28, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Welcome back GB... you missed a helluva draft weekend!

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

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by SackMan on Apr 27, 2009 10:31 PM CDT reply actions  

We missed you geaux!

Awww, man what am I supposed to do about my sig now?

by scespy12 on Apr 27, 2009 10:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Welcome Back

And I think the Pack could be a dark horse team but I still think they come up short. However, I think that being clutch is something that comes with time and although they did not win many games in the last two minutes I think Rodgers could progress in that area and be better at it this year. That is if he stays healthy which seems unlikely given his history.

by Sam Householder on Apr 28, 2009 12:52 AM CDT reply actions  

A few points

Let me preface by saying I’m biased but thought the article and discussion was interesting….

Packers have an all new defensive coaching staff with Dom Capers for Def Coor, Kevin Green for OLB coach, Perry – former safety for Steelers is the safety coach, Trgovac – Def line coach from Panthers who was under Capers there. This is an all-star coaching staff that can bring great leadership to the defensive team. Play calling was also horrid for Packers.

Dave Redding, new strength and conditioning coach, love his approach to weight training and injury prevention. Went away from machines and more free weights and new philosophy with training. This is key to prevent injuries.

They are not trying to get the talent to fit the 3-4 but they will gradually switch and call schemes to fit the talent.

Offensive was not the problem and Rodgers could close but every time he scored late in the game our D couldn’t stop the offense.

I think the bears made the right move by getting a talented quarterback but remember, he a gunslinger and so was favre. Favre was great but he lost many games with interceptions and so does Cutler so just don’t throw him under the bus after losing a game or two for you!

by GoPack on Apr 28, 2009 9:57 AM CDT reply actions  

Hey, thanks for the reply fella!

Your bits of info are interesting, but where do you see the Pack fitting in to the North this year?

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by Dane Noble on Apr 28, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Glad to discuss

Again, I’m biased so I would love to see them win the division but I think Chicago is going to be tougher than the Vikings. Defensive front seven is solid, but I think their offense will struggle. Not just because of T Jack but peterson changed his diet plan and is trying to add weight. I read an article that Childress isn’t too excited about it but Adrian doesn’t think it will effect his mobility. I think it will and because he is already seen as the primary weapon.

The bigger issue for the Packers was bad coaching on the defense and play calling. McCarthy is not a defensive expert so he really counts on that coordinator to make the right calls and Dom Capers has that kind of reputation. The one thing that concerns me is some players like Nick Collins and Tramon Williams talking about sitting out for contract negotiations. The issue is so many players that do this get injured and are not on par with everyone else by the season opener. That’s what happened to Grant last year but I think he will get better.

The NFL is so fluid now, which I like, so anything can happen and injuries are always key. That’s why I think it comes back to a lot of the strength and conditioning. Football players, especially young ones, try to bulk up too much and you don’t want to be a body builder playing football.

by GoPack on Apr 28, 2009 11:23 AM CDT reply actions  

HILARIOUS

Bears fans are so out of touch.
Jay Cutler will be average this year. He has nobody to throw to. I could find better WR’s playing flag football for Sport & Social in Lincoln Park every Saturday.

Lest we forget. GB lost 7 games by a total of 20 points. Nick Barnett, Cullen Jenkins, Atari Bigby, Al Harris, AJ Hawk were all injured most or all of the season.

Finally Dom Capers has a track record of improving defenses. His minimal improvement for his first year is 6 spots.

Chicago’s defense still can’t stop anyone. You didn’t address Safety, WR, OL or CB. DJ Moore might be good in a few years. Orlando Pace is way past his prime.

Good luck. You’ll need it. FYI. Don’t expect your Special Teams to bail you out all year this year. It’s the only reason you win games.

by maranan on Apr 28, 2009 1:38 PM CDT reply actions  

You know what I like about you?

You just signed up for Windy City Gridiron and not Acme Packing Co. That tells me you’re a special kind of person, most likely still in Mom’s basement.

You didn’t address Safety, WR, OL or CB.

WR – Iglesias and CB – Moore. Try again?

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 28, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you kidding… Really?

A 3rd Round WR and a 4th round DB.

That’s what I’m talking about when I said “out of touch”. If DJ Moore was anything close to an elite DB he would have been taken earlier. Same thing with Iglesias.

I gave you Barnett, Bigby, Jenkins, Harris, Hawk and Dom Capers. You counter with Iglesias and Moore. Please tell me you have something more substantial than that. It’s laughable.

by maranan on Apr 28, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Explain something to me, champ
I gave you Barnett, Bigby, Jenkins, Harris, Hawk and Dom Capers. You counter with Iglesias and Moore

I’m very confused with your argumentation. You just give me names, which I did not reply to. Wanna clear that up?

In the meantime, I’ll just toss out random names like you did: Forte, Olsen, Hester, Cutler, Tommie Harris, Briggs, and Marinelli.

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 28, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

BTW Haight

Where are ya? Time to make your money.

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 28, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's explained... Champ

My original statement, if you read it, was referring to Capers historical success and the rash of defensive injuries last year. Also, the minimal margin of the losses. 7 games by 20 points.

You haven’t changed anything except your QB and bringing in Rod Marinelli as a D-Line coach. Your secondary is AWFUL. You have zero pass rush. Your offensive line is older than my grandmother and….. drum roll… Your #1 WR is no better than a #3 on most teams… With the exception of TN and BAL.

Your pinning your hopes on your draft choices being “steals”. Good luck… I hope Cutler can Block for himself and then throw to himself. And… Then he can generate a pass rush and cover WR’s at the same time.

by maranan on Apr 28, 2009 2:37 PM CDT reply actions  

So

did the NFL create a new “minimal margin of losses” category? Last time I checked, the Fudge was 6-10 last year. What has the Fudge done, besides losing 7 games by 20 points, that tells you they are ready to win this division?

by McRipper on Apr 28, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is it that hard to see? Good god. It’s like I’m babysitting my sisters kids.

The players that were hurt last year were all starters and will be fully healthy this year. There is the addition of Raji and Matthews on that side of the ball. And one of the best D-Coordinators in the history of the NFL coaching that unit now.

It’s really not that hard to comprehend. But… I’ll spell it out. The difference between 6-10 and 13-3 was 27 points. An improved defense eliminates that margin. Got it? Good.

by maranan on Apr 28, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who cares?

You were 6-10 last year, we were 9-7. Shut your yap and pray to God, Allah, or whoever you choose that Brett Favre comes back.

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 28, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good response. That’s the sign of someone defeated in a debate.

Point…. We addressed our major deficiency in the offseason. Defense.
Point…. You did not. QB wasn’t your major problem. It’s was and still is DB, S, OL & DL. I’m waiting for someone to explain to me how those areas were “really” addressed.

Oh wait… You got a WR in the 3rd round. What was I thinking?

by maranan on Apr 28, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

you should be worried about your defense

Our defense wasn’t responsible for losing four straight games

Nobody rec’d the bible or the declaration of independence. Those turned out swell.
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by KtownBear on Apr 28, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's called "addressing the issue"

We addressed our defense. Returning starters a new Coordinator and two studs in the Draft.

Done and done

by maranan on Apr 28, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you the grammar police now? Are you marking up your screen with red ink? Are these they responses to my questions.

YOU DON’T HAVE ANSWERS BECAUSE YOUR TEAM DIDN’T ADDRESS ANYTHING!.

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by maranan on Apr 28, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

how do you know those two studs won't turn into duds?

You think because you drafted two players, all your problems are solved? Last I checked, Ahmad Carroll, A.J. Hawk, Justin Harrell, sucked.

Oh yeah i made a mistake. 5 straight games.

Nobody rec’d the bible or the declaration of independence. Those turned out swell.
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by KtownBear on Apr 28, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Add B.J. Raji to that list

He’s a bust just waiting to happen.

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 28, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

as in

busted for weed

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by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 28, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

A.J. Hawk was injured all of last year. Justin Harrell…. That will be determined this year. Ahmad Carroll? That was a Mike Sherman Pick.

Shall we go down the line of Angelo’s wonderful picks? It’s comical

Chris Williams
Cedric Benson
David Terrell
Rex Grossman
Michael Haynes
Marc Colombo

by maranan on Apr 28, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

its seems to me

that you seem to be placing a lot of emphasis on things that should be rather than things that happened. Granted, a lot of your defense was injured last year. so was ours in 2007. Who’s to say your defensive players return to the form they displayed in 2007? I know so far ours haven’t reverted to the form they displayed in 2006. You do have a lot of potential playmakers on defense, but it all boils down to how they recover to injuries, and to a further extent, how they adjust to a new scheme.

Plus, you are changing defensive schemes. This takes any team a while to adjust to. You did draft players that will fit in your new 3-4 scheme, but it takes a while for rookies to adjust to the nfl level. My gut instinct tells me that your defense will be rough again this year, but may return to dominant form the following year. Saying that you guys are going to be completely dominant next year is a bit arrogant.

by Nih1lus on Apr 28, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hawk

He is such a bust that he had 7 less tackles then your Hero Urlacher and 3 more sacks. What a bust…. And he was injured.

Nice contract you gave the Arthritic wonder.

by maranan on Apr 28, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's get him Ktown

You’re a

Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!

by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 28, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dumbass

Nobody rec’d the bible or the declaration of independence. Those turned out swell.
-Ifuwanna

by KtownBear on Apr 28, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Go hump

Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!

by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 28, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brett Favre and Bart Starr

Nobody rec’d the bible or the declaration of independence. Those turned out swell.
-Ifuwanna

by KtownBear on Apr 28, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stick a block of cheese up your ass.

Nobody rec’d the bible or the declaration of independence. Those turned out swell.
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by KtownBear on Apr 28, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

lmao

I’m not even mad….I’m just impressed. Good work.

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 28, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of course!!!!

The questions was… How have the Bears addressed their major offseason issues.

The answer is obviously “Go hump Brett Favre and Bart Starr, and while I’m at it stick a block of cheese in my ass”.

Funny how this is the consistant response I get from Bears fans across the board.

by maranan on Apr 28, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Next time don't come up in here with an insult to start

just be thankful they didn’t tell you to hump Gilbert Brown.

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by Adam T on Apr 28, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

What insult

What insult?

Asking a question that Bears fans refuse to answer?

by maranan on Apr 28, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

HILARIOUS

Bears fans are so out of touch.

And that comment was in response to my article…

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by Dane Noble on Apr 28, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

You have very thin skin. I’ll make sure I treat you like a delicate flower from now on.

That definitely warrants telling me to hump guys and blow cheese out of my ass.

by maranan on Apr 28, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whoa!! we NEVER said anything about you blowing cheese out of your ass

But if that’s your preference, go for it.

Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!

by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 28, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry

Stick a block of cheese “UP” my ass.

You didn’t say that particular part… I believe your part was “Go Hump” and “While I’m at it”. Go get Ktown. He’s a brilliant chap.

by maranan on Apr 28, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

My skin is almost as thick as your head.

And I only quoted your comment because you were acting like you didn’t start things off with an insult.

If you actually read the article, you will see that it is possible to discuss football with/about rival teams without being a troll and insulting folks. But hey, glad we got a new member… we appreciate you driving our traffice up. You should try doing that for the Packers site… they need all the help they can get over there.

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by Dane Noble on Apr 28, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's an insult

You really consider “out of touch” that insulting. I am dumbfounded.

That’s your rally cry? Go get him guys… He called us “out of touch”.

by maranan on Apr 28, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

You really are all over the place.

Do you have trouble with linear conversations? Or is it just too tough to try and have multiple conversations at once. Cause I have to say sir, you ain’t doing a very good jorb.

Btw, I never had a rally cry. And I never tried to rile up the troops. I just responded to you directly.

Try to keep up. You are starting to fulfill the Packer-fan stereotype.

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by Dane Noble on Apr 28, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look back please

I said “out of touch”. That’s the most insulting thing I have said.

I have proceeded to be told to “Shove cheese in my ass”, that “I’m thick headed”, that “I should hump Brett Favre and Bart Starr”.

Get a clue please. I have asked one question and none of you have answered.

As for the “typical packer fan”. Have you ever been to lambeau. The people are nice. Not like soldier field where you get spit on.

by maranan on Apr 28, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

You told us we were out of touch

our receivers sucked and most insulting was you trying to tell us the reason you lost 7 games by 20 points is because you had guys hurt. Every team has guys hurt and the guys you named aren’t all that good. You lost games because the other teams was better than you that day. We lost games because other teams were better than us that day. Don’t tell me A.J. Hawk would have saved your team.

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by Adam T on Apr 28, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

THEY DO SUCK

Everyone knows it.

We lost because our defense was awful last year. We addressed defense.

You still can’t answer the damn question. Stop changing the subject.

by maranan on Apr 28, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

it doesn't matter

you came to your biggest rival’s site and told them they are out of touch and have sucky recievers, you expect us to greet you with hugs and puppies?

You think if I went to the Pack site and told them Hawk sucks I wouldn’t be greeted the exact same way?

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by Adam T on Apr 28, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

here's some facts about your new DC

Dolphins finished 23rd with him as DC in 2007. And that was with Hmmm jason taylor, Zach Thomas, Joey Porter, Channing Crowder, Vonnie holiday, Keith Traylor and Yerimiah Bell.

Good luck turning Kampman into a linebacker.

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by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 28, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was with Nick Saban as head coach. Get a clue please.

by maranan on Apr 28, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oops

I stand corrected. He’s even worse.

by maranan on Apr 28, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, since you want to look at head coaches let's look at Capers in houston

16th
26th
31st
31st

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by KtownBear on Apr 28, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hahahaha

Nice teamwork guys! I just laughed out loud at my desk. :D

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by Ashley Czuba on Apr 28, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about.....

One of you just answer the question. Nobody has yet.

Perhaps it’s because you can’t. WR, S, DB, D-Line, O-Line. What have you done to fix those problems in the offseason. Someone… Anyone.

by maranan on Apr 28, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because this is too much fun

and you’re driving up traffic.

The longer you stay = increased traffic

The longer you stay = increased fun for us.

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 28, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lol, I was going to say...

I think we all know that there will never be an “end” to this argument. Everyone just likes ruffling each other’s feathers. (And I enjoy reading it! lol)
So it’s useless to get too riled up about it. :)

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by Ashley Czuba on Apr 28, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not that

It’s because you can’t answer the question and it’s a defense mechanism so you don’t have to.

I’ll just keep making fun of him.
I’ll use “out of touch” as if it’s an enormous insult.

I’m not “riled” up. I’m just trying to get an answer

by maranan on Apr 28, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you really think we have done nothing to improve our team?

We got Rod Marinelli, greatly respected as one of the best DL coaches in the NFL… Lovie Smith to replace Bob Babich with defensive play-calling…

Aquired Cutler, revamped the OL, have a healthy back-up to spell Forte, have knocked the rust off of Hester and Bennett, drafted a WR that will be able to immediately contribute…

I mean, sure we still have holes, but who doesn’t? That’s part of football…

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by Dane Noble on Apr 28, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you

I’ll be damed. Now that’s a post I can debate.

I’ll say that Lovie will need to adapt. He has a history of being overly hard headed.

OL – Revamped? Orlando Pace? That’s a bit of a stretch.

by maranan on Apr 28, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Revamped =

A healthy Chris Williams, the additions of Kevin Shaffer and Frank Omiyale, and getting rid of John St. Clair. We should have 3 new starters on th OL this year, and have much better depth.

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by Dane Noble on Apr 28, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

And yes, so you can keep up,

the addition of Pace as well.

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by Dane Noble on Apr 28, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pace

He’s way past his prime. I’d agree if it was 3 years ago.

Williams… I’d be weary of him. I can attest as we have our own Justin “My Back’s Hurt Again” Harrell.

Back Injuries don’t go away and he has a history. I never understood that pick when Angelo knew about the injury before the draft.

by maranan on Apr 28, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whether this is the same injury,

or a different one altogether we will never know. But that doesn’t matter now. He is expected to be 100%.

And whether Pace, or anyone for that matter is in their prime is a silly argument. He was an upgrade over last year. Thus we improved since last year. Which was what you were saying we did not do.

But, regardless of any of this, as I noted in my article, the Pack got better. But so have the Bears. And the Vikes will be tough again as well.

So, it will be fun watching how the North plays out this year… 10 wins might not get it done like last year.

Honestly though, with the Packers boasting 6 wins last season, then coming to a Bears site and saying essentially “Omg we got better and you didn’t so you suck hahaha” is just silly.

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by Dane Noble on Apr 28, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Defense mechanism on a blog?

sure. whatever you say, Sigmund Freud.

Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!

by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 28, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Freudian

Your suggestions about humping males and sticking fromage in the rectum is quite disturbing.

You should seek help

by maranan on Apr 28, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

so says the guy that opted to blow a chunk of cheese out of his ass

Nobody rec’d the bible or the declaration of independence. Those turned out swell.
-Ifuwanna

by KtownBear on Apr 28, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Error

Sorry. I glanced over what you and your buddy wrote and misspoke.

Nice try on flipping it though. Not really but you get the point.

by maranan on Apr 28, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's not my buddy

he’s my uncle. and if he wants his Xbox360 back, he better buy me a new friggin PSP.

Nobody rec’d the bible or the declaration of independence. Those turned out swell.
-Ifuwanna

by KtownBear on Apr 28, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know how you found out

but If it’s was anybody from here just remember: snitches get stitches.

Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!

by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 28, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

lmao

Glad I didn’t tell him then. How did Ktown find out? I thought he wanted a new one anyways?

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by ChiFan13 on Apr 28, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm on this site more than he realizes

then he tries to play it off with some shitty used PSP. He didn’t even take the receipt sticker off the back.

Dumbass.

Nobody rec’d the bible or the declaration of independence. Those turned out swell.
-Ifuwanna

by KtownBear on Apr 28, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

hahahaha

So you’re holding his 360 hostage until you get a new one?

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Apr 28, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

fixes

lets’ go down the list.

WR- 3 drafted, two of which will be developmental projects. Not any highly touted prospects, but having a much improved QB will help address the WR position.

S- drafted a project in the late rounds, plus some free-agent acquisitions. hoping that some of our younger guys can step up.

DB- kinda goes in line with safety. some free agents, plus hoping some players can return to form following injuries.

D-Line- got two prospects in the draft, plus the acquisition of Rod Marinelli as d-line coach. hoping tommie harris can return to form, and we can have a dominant d-line this upcoming year.

O-LIne- Chris Williams should be healthy, plus the acquisitions of Omiyale, Pace, and Shaffer should prove a much improved O-Line.

Good enough for ya?

by Nih1lus on Apr 28, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pacers Packers

we care little about both, so no big deal.

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by Adam T on Apr 28, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

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