Who Do We Draft?
by ChiFan13 on Apr 3, 2009 11:13 AM CDT
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As Chicago and most of us on here attempt to shake off a hangover that could slay a whale, remember to smile. We finally have a good quarterback. And since Jerry really wanted that collective apology from Bear Nation, he signed Pace an hour later. Unreal.
Now that we have Cutler, two things are crystal clear: 1) we still need to get another WR and 2) draft day won't be as exciting this year. But, I'll still address some of the positions you all have tossed out.
This one is fairly obvious: We have Cutler, we have Forte, and we have below-average receivers.
Kenny Britt may fall to us, but I'm not holding my breath. After that, we're looking at Brian Robiskie, Juaquin Iglesias, and Brandon Tate. Personally, I think we definitely need to grab a WR with the 2nd round pick.
OL
Since the Pace signing, here's how our offensive line looks:
Pace - LT
Omiyale - LG
Kreutz - C
Beekman/Garza - RG
C-Will/Shaffer - RT
In order to protect our new investment, we could grab Duke Robinson if he's still around. Do we want to go OL with our first pick after already signing three linemen?
S
I won't lie: I really like Sean Smith from Utah (click for my breakdown of him). He's tall and possesses some pretty decent speed.
However, I'm also a realist. I'm not sure that he'll be around at our 2nd round spot. There are other CB/S prospects we can pick up later; they just might not be as good as Smith.
But enough blabbering from me....what's our focus for the 2nd and 3rd round selections?
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we go after Holt in FA then well S in 2 and DEor OL in 3
"" Jay Cutler is our quaterback" haha
by NOR CAL BEAR on Apr 3, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
NFC North champs forever!
We definitely need a veteran WR to mentor the youngins. Holt, Harrison & Toomer are the top choices, with Holt the #1. Get Holt, and still use the 2nd rd. pick on a WR. That’ll really put the offense over the top. I really like Robiskie out of OSU or if Britt falls to #49. I saw another mock draft having the Bears selecting Jordan Shipley from Texas with one of the 7th rounders. I like that too. We shoudl draft 2 WRs in this draft. Then, with the 3rd rounder, take a S or DE. Then, the 4th rounder can be the other not taken in the 3rd. OL can be addressed later.
Holt probably won't happen
cst_bears No Torry Holt for Bears. Agent doesn’t see it happening. http://blogs.suntimes.com/b…</blockquote>
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 3, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
s.o.b.
o well toomer or harrison 1 yr deal, who ever is cheaper…. then best wr in rd 2 or 3 ….
"" Jay Cutler is our quaterback" haha
Posted before I was finished typing
I was trying to say
Not to be argumentative, but I am taking nothing for granted this offseason. I was fairly certain that the Cutler trade and Orlando Pace signing wouldn’t happen either.
Damn
Angelo does look like Gollum.
I’m torn on who to use that 2nd on. I’d like to see the Bears sign Torry Holt and pass on WR until next year. But if they don’t, I would really like to see Robiskie in a Bears uni.
I’m leaning towards one of the top G if they are still available. You can never have too many young good lineman.
Then again, if a stud S is there, pull the trigger on him. I think the Bears have some options with this pick and I’m excited to see how they play it.
Why are you going to put Orlando Pace at LT and Chris Williams at RT?
Isn’t that wasting Chris William’s potential I mean, he was drafted #13.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
I say let Williams sit back
And learn from a first ballot HOF LT. Don’t throw him out at RT. Yes we drafted him w/ a first round #14 pick but if he can learn the game from a HOF player and be GREAT in 2 years I’m all for that.
"The phone's for you, I think it's the Devil."
I agree...
and with Pace’s injury history the past 2 yrs, the Bears might be smart to leave Williams at LT to learn and then step in when Pace goes down or put them in a rotation later in the season.
If Pace can still play like Pace
Then why on earth would you not have one of the best LT’s in the history of the game play at his natural position.
If he can’t, then we need to have Williams starting.
That's the thing
Pace can’t play like Pace. Why do you think all these other teams were asking him to play at RT? I wouldnt be too happy about this signing because I really think it’ll make your line worse.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
if there's a mauler
available at that pick take him, otherwise the best safet or wr there.
i think they’ll just take whoever is the best player of those 3 spots.
i really want to know what the deal with williams is, or if there even is a deal.
I'm really confused on the Chris W issue too.
I can’t believe he’s not going to be healthy after sitting all year, but this is one thing that I can’t make sense of…
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
Dude, for serious? 1986 was 23 years ago.
Can we drop it?
-halfblindcubbiegirl
No kidding
or at least his reaction to all of this. At the same time, Pace has proven (when healthy) that he’s a good LT. All C-Will has proven is he has a back problem.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
Man... I eally wanted Vernon Carey as a FA to play RG and MAUL...
We need to find a vicious run blocker with size to not only improve our run game, but also play against our specific division competition: the HUGE Williams duo in Minny.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Mauler at RG
It would also be nice to have a strong run blocker next to Williams; otherwise, we might be running left all day.
Go for broke now.
Might as well go for it…trade up in the 2nd round using our 4th or another pick next year and secure the WR or Safety that we want. Don’t wait till 49 and pick the guy that falls. Go get the guy you want. Then use the 3rd rd comp pick on a G or WR or S that we don’t get in the 2nd. Game over. Super Bears…Super Bowl.
I like the Go for broke now
sentiment. Just kinda spit ballin here but heck lets go for Crabtree. If hes still sittin there at a point where maybe we could trade Vasher and our 2nd rounder to move up and get him, Why not?
"Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. "---George S. Halas
by Halas is God!!!!! on Apr 3, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
O MAN
U CRAZY BUT I LIKE YOUR TRAIN OF THOUGHT……
"" Jay Cutler is our quaterback" haha
by NOR CAL BEAR on Apr 3, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
be careful with the go for broke train of thought
i.e. 2008 Cleveland Browns
by SamuraiMike50 on Apr 3, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I think they should decide between Holt or Ken Lucas
Not sure which I would prefer. I like the Bears depth at WR right now, but obviously need a front liner. If they were to sign Ken Lucas, I would target Ramses Barden in the 3rd, and hope to clone him in the Brandon Marshall mold. Even if they don’t sign Holt, I don’t think they should take a WR with their second round pick. Wide Receivers are often crap shoots, and most take a while to develop. If they sign Holt, than their entire draft can be secondary/OLB/offensive line help. But I would still like for them to get Ramses Barden, he might be a step slow, but with his big body he could be an excellent compliment to Devin Hester, until they get a true number 1.
Depth at WR???
Hester and Bennett. The others our practice squad players, I don’t really consider that depth at all. I too like Barden tho.
"The phone's for you, I think it's the Devil."
WR in the 2nd, and S in the 3rd.
Then, take the best available guard left in draft in the 4th, and draft defense with the rest of their picks.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
I personally believe that it will be
LT Pace
LG Williams
C Kruetz
RG Omiyale
RT Shaffer
Reason for pace signing: they just got Cutler or were planning on cutler so my protect him with an unproven player when you can start him at LG for a year or two and see if he can cut it before handing the job to him.
"I am Kyles mom , I support him but I don't believe in him"- GeauxBears
Williams at LG?
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
Dude, for serious? 1986 was 23 years ago.
Can we drop it?
-halfblindcubbiegirl
Absolutely....
If you stick him at LG he wont have tremendous run blocking responsibilities like RG does and he will be right there with Pace learning and is there really a better option at LG?
"I am Kyles mom , I support him but I don't believe in him"- GeauxBears
Run on sentence........
AND I did just reply to myself.
"I am Kyles mom , I support him but I don't believe in him"- GeauxBears
REALLY????
@ LG wow!!
"" Jay Cutler is our quaterback" haha
by NOR CAL BEAR on Apr 3, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Cool... I'll mark it down and we'll see what happens.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Don't think this will happen
Even though that puts the most talent out there, if 1 guy goes down, then 2 positions are affected because we have no swing tackle on the bench. I think 1 of Shaffer or Williams will strictly be a backup.
by Mike Mueller on Apr 3, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
i think beekman belongs in the starting lineup
by SamuraiMike50 on Apr 3, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't... and neither do the Bears.
Omiyale lined up at LG on first day of mini-camp, with Beekman behind him.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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I'd rather try and get a 3rd or 4th rounder for Beekman.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
Dude, for serious? 1986 was 23 years ago.
Can we drop it?
-halfblindcubbiegirl
He needs to be on our roster for depth...
He’s young, and he played admirably. He’s just not big enough to push the pile on short yardage.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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exactly...
there’s no reason to get rid of Beeker. He played pretty well starting last year. Now, he’s got some real good experience coming off the bench.
Exactly... he's a midget.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
Dude, for serious? 1986 was 23 years ago.
Can we drop it?
-halfblindcubbiegirl
That's why I cringed when it was posted the Bears were
looking at that guard from Penn State.
Another friggin midget.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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LOL
So… he’s a 293lb little person :)
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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I would say a 3rd rounder would be great,
JA seems to do better drafting in the 3rd and 4th than he does in the 1st anyways.
Don’t think anyone will give us a 3rd for Beekman though.
I have been a Bears fan forever
but these last couple days have excited me enough to actually join this blog. Somebody wake me up, did the Bear’s FO actually just start acting like they want to win?
Also, you guys have a wonderful blog going here!
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* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
and....BEN SHEETS!!! **
**not that BEN SHEETS might be involved in this comment, just BEN SHEETS!!!
(BEN SHEETS might be involved in this comment)
So...
This means you guys will have to restart the mock draft that has been going on :D
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
CUTLER WILL BE ON 670 THE SCORE at 3:00pm CT
on Boers and Berstein
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Cutler, Ron Turner Have Rocky History
Posted by Aaron Wilson on April 3, 2009, 12:47 p.m.
Newly-acquired Chicago Bears quarterback Jay Cutler is known for holding a grudge, and he still seems to be holding one against Bears offensive coordinator Ron Turner stemming from an old recruiting dispute, according to Brad Biggs of the Chicago Sun-Times.
Citing people close to Cutler and a Denver Post column, some fences may need to be mended between Cutler and Turner now that they’re going to work together.
As a high school senior in southern Indiana, Cutler accepted a scholarship to Illinois where Turner was the head coach at the time. Cutler committed without visiting campus, though, and when he arrived for an official visit Turner reportedly pulled the offer.
"When Jay went for his official visit, the coach told him they were rescinding the offer because they had some hot-shot quarterback from California," Heritage Hills athletic director Jay Burch told Denver Post columnist Woody Paige. "
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Woody Paige
Enough said. It is true that Illini rescinded the offer, but I think the fence mending is more the Denver paper trying to extend the story of the villified Cutler.
But what does that say...
… about Ron Turner’s scouting ability? 7 years ago he wouldn’t take this guy on his COLLEGE team. Now he’s such a stud we traded two 1st rounders for him.
Good thing Turner isnt running the draft.
by Orval Overall on Apr 3, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
well...
… FWIW, Cutler ended up at Vanderbilt, which probably means that most decent college recruiters passed on him.
Bringing moderation to a place I don't moderate.
visit the mindful mission
by big_lowitzki on Apr 3, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Although I'm all for a new offensive coordinator
Speeking of which, do any of u hardcore Bears fans have the ability to find me some statistics?
I’m interested to see under Ron Turner how many 3rd and shorts and 4th and shorts, Turner has called the fullback dive and/or the dump off pass to the fullback in the flat. I would think there is a place to find this on the internet, but haven’t found where yet.
These pop.
Just some tidbits…
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
Dude, for serious? 1986 was 23 years ago.
Can we drop it?
-halfblindcubbiegirl
there is only one correct person to draft...
best available player.
Sure a good wr seems like a good idea but to overreach just to get one is a bad idea.
IF there is a WR near the top of the chart when we draft, get him. But don’t draft WR just to draft a WR.
Besides, rookie WRs have a hard time adjusting and need 2 to 3 years to develop.
The wikipedia entry for Jay Cutler....
says he plays for the Chicago Bears.
Yay. That’s so friggin cool :) Pinch me.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Angelo...
usually always takes the best player available.
I would personally love to see them stack the WR position, along with some S and G.
If we are a running team and now have a throwing QB, we might want to think about actually getting him someone to throw to.
i would like to point to Chris Williams to the contrary
there is no way that the 4th offensive tackle taken in the first round was the best available.
And neither was Danieal Manning.
CW
First he was the third OT taken, and lots of people boards last year had him ahead of Clady and in the top ten. Regardless of what happened, it was not a reach at the time.
But yes, JA locks onto a guy then tries to justify it by saying best available, Manning is a perfect example.
by Hurricanes becoming Bears on Apr 3, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
BPA
If Britt or Robiske is there then great, but Juaquin Iglesias isn’t a 2nd round pick. If Iglesias is best WR available in the 2nd round, draft a Safety there or even a d-end. I would like to shy away from Oline until the later rounds now.
3rd round WR Targets – Louis Murphy or Barden
I still can't beleive this...
in one friggin day, we’ve completely changed the forecast for this season.
We’ve gone from an average 9-7 team, with holes everywhere, to “In it to win it,” with a 26 year old Pro-bowl QB and a HOF LT.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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sweeeeeeeeeet
Now, get a good FA WR and a good Wr high in the draft, and we’re looking pretty sweet.
Sack, can you shoot me an email?
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
Dude, for serious? 1986 was 23 years ago.
Can we drop it?
-halfblindcubbiegirl
just did...
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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I know.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
Dude, for serious? 1986 was 23 years ago.
Can we drop it?
-halfblindcubbiegirl
I'm agreed on most points...
I really like Sean Smith coming in to compete at FS if he’s there in the 2nd.
I really like Duke coming in at RG since I’m not a huge fan of Garza, and if Beekman is going to be our next center we’re going to need someone that is going to start at RG and be a run mauler.
I kinda like Robiskie, but I really like Britt. I really doubt Britt is going to be there in the 2nd, but if he is we have to take him. Robisikie really depends on if you think Earl Bennett is going to be a go to guy for Cutler or not, and if you think Rideau could be a legitimate number 3 or not.
I’d be happy with any of these 4 players though.
Smith coul be a hybrid
DB/WR
:)
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
Dude, for serious? 1986 was 23 years ago.
Can we drop it?
-halfblindcubbiegirl
Doubters, please refer to Colts 1992 NFL Draft
I grew up near Cutler in southern indiana. Grew up a bears fan but the colts got the coverage in that area of the state. I remember in 1992 the colts had the 1st two picks in the draft. They took Steve Emtman and Quentin Coryatt. Exactly. Ever since I have never put much stock in drafting in the 1st round. Too much of a gamble, too high of contracts, too many combine superstars moving up draft boards (see mandarich). Kudos for solidifying the most important position in football by giving up question marks.
Angelo sucks draft
As we all know, Angelo isn’t the best at round 1 drafting. So, to give up 2 question marks for a very good proven commodity…HELL YEAH! Only time will tell who got the better end of this deal. So far, I think, it’s ‘Da Bears. I kind of like Angelo’s penchant for moving down in the draft…sometimes. You really got to know when the right time to do that is. He’s been pretty decent at that. But, now with less picks, he shouldn’t do much of that this draft. He’s needed, and has been, doing more in the FA pool this year than year’s past. But, he’s still got work to do, especially at WR. Go get ’em, Angelo.
Holt
Torry Holt’s agent said he “doesn’t see” the free agent wide receiver seriously considering the Bears.
“We have several other teams that are interested,” Kennard McGuire said. “Torry has a process and he is going through that process. We will [have another visit] it is just a matter of time.” Holt would make sense for Chicago, but it doesn’t sound like he’s interested.
http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/04/doesnt_look_like_holt_will_cat.html
how can he not be interested?
how many teams can he go to where he can
A: be the number 1 option
and
B: have a really good qb in place
and
C: have a good chance at the post season
agreed...
Holt says he’s going to take his time deciding. Hopefully, he changes his mind about Chicago. Now, that Pace has signed and with his history with Lovie, maybe the 2 of them can convince Holt to consider Chicago. Remember too, that Pace’s agent is also Holt’s. Holt can come in & instantly be the #1 WR. He’ll have a great QB, up & comer RB & TE, improved OL and hopefully improved defense. He would cinch the NFC North for us, if not also the NFC crown. Draft some WRs this year & next, improve the D, and we can talk Super Bowl once again.
That article doesn't mean anything
It’s a ploy by Holt’s agent to drive up the offers, IMO.
It would be nice to have Holt mentoring Hester and Bennett. Though I don’t think that Holt has lost as much of a step as Marvin Harrison has, I wonder how he would do at Soldier Field. Eight games a season, not including playoffs, at soldier field wouldn’t be anything like playing in St. Louis.
Here’s to hoping that Cutler and Bennett can get into their old rhythms either way. Add Hester and two of the better TE in football and I think that there will be more than enough weapons for Cutler to throw to.
I would really like
to do whatever it takes to get Britt. I think he can be our Brandon Marshall. He might not be there for our first round pick, but I think we could potentially move up to get him for a 4th rounder, unless he really rockets up the board into the first round.
DEJESUS!!!
Plaxico released
Get Some, him or Matt Jones and plug our nose. Although I’m sure Jone’s suspension will be longer.
Plax's case was post-poned intil June.
But he’ll get suspended. What do you mean he was released? He’s still a Giant as far as I know.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
Dude, for serious? 1986 was 23 years ago.
Can we drop it?
-halfblindcubbiegirl
ESPN had breaking news
that Plax was released from the Giants
by Casimir Effect on Apr 3, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow.
Next topic. :)
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
Dude, for serious? 1986 was 23 years ago.
Can we drop it?
-halfblindcubbiegirl
literally blows... breathalizers
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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the trouble is not that he blows
the trouble IS the blow
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 4, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Plax's jail time could likely effect part of the season
and than followed by a possible suspension. Probably not a legitimate target, especially with the bad PR, but after yesterday a guy can dream.
not just part
I bet Plax is gone for the entire season. Gonna spend some time in jail, even with a plea, and then he’s looking at an NFL suspension as well (which wouldn’t start until after he is out of jail and on a team’s roster as potentially able to play). None of the news stories I have seen about him give him much of a chance of avoiding at least a 6 month jail term. Since his next court date isn’t until June, that would mean (best case scenario, for him), being out of jail in December. And then facing probably at least a 4-game NFL suspension after that.
Barring some miracle, Plax won’t play a snap in the NFL in the ’09 season.
I say...
…the best WR available whether that is Holt or someone else. And, we must use the second rounder on a WR as well to go with that FA and Hester. Don’t forget about Olsen and Clark, this might be the year they actually get to show their talent.
One thing I do know...
Olsen is going to be a good fantasy pick in leagues that require TEs.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
He disappointed me last yr
Cutler should turn him into a beast
"The phone's for you, I think it's the Devil."
Should...
Hopeully we’ll throw him the ball consistently. His potential is great to think about…
by Twins Territory on Apr 4, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Draft priorities are straighforward
Safety, Defensive End, Wide Receiver. I think Angelo takes the approach of picking the best available from among those three positions at each draft slot. The need for Safety is most acute.
I think WR is more of a priority
for Angelo. He needs to give his new toy some weapons. Angelo will look pretty bad if he puts Cutler in a position to fail.
We definitely need a FS and DE, but I bet Angelo’s next move, whether in FA or with the second round pick, will be WR.
DEJESUS!!!
Britt or Robiskie
If either of them are their we would have to be ecstatic to get them. If not, there are no WO worth the pick and then we have to go best S, OL, or DE. If not a WO, I like Delmas or Smith or Moore if they are available. Maybe take Loadholt and play him at guard but have him ready to take the RT spot in the future. If all those guys are gone, I wouldn’t be disappointed with English, Barwin, Johnson, Kruger, or Sidbury, whoever falls through the cracks or the Bears like. I just don’t think we can afford to reach for position with this 2nd rounder. I think instead of taking a guard in the 2nd, we take a OT in the third like Tupuo or Kropog or Vollmer and play them at guard until they can move to RT.
If we go OL in the 2nd then take Louis Murphy, Ramses Barden, or Mohamed Massaquoi. We need to get a WO with size. Cutler did struggle in the Redzone and he had Marshall in Denver. I know we have Olsen and Dez, but adding a WO with a couple inches on DB’s can only help him on the goalline.
by Hurricanes becoming Bears on Apr 3, 2009 6:22 PM CDT reply actions
I agree...
with almost all of this, except for drafting Loadholt in the 2nd now. I really like him as a player, but with our offseason pick ups I think Duke would be the better call at plugging in at RG making a line of
Pace/Omiyale/Kruetz/Duke/Schaffer First String
Williams/Buenning/Beekman/Garza Backups
That looks like a pretty fantastic line to me, while Loadholt would be better in a back up sense, Duke would be a great starter.
We always seem to agree on the draft
Sklz, your probably right, just trying to kill 2 birds with one stone, upgrading G and RT down the line. But really trying to do to much. The line looks better with Duke starting.
by Hurricanes becoming Bears on Apr 4, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Well in that case...
One one of us becomes the GM of the Bears, we can hire the other to be Assistant GM.
Until Thursday
I would have said we were front runners for the job, but I suppose JA bought himself at least another year.
by Hurricanes becoming Bears on Apr 4, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
It's going to come down to the best player avail
The Bears (JA) never commit to a position they commit to the best player to fill a hole. This year it’s pretty obious we need WR/OL/S, but we could also use DL&CB, so I wouldnt be shocked to hear some boooo’s on draft day cause JA picks something other than WR/OL/S. But I think we really need some insurance at OL with all those old guys.
by DaBears2009SBChamps on Apr 5, 2009 10:26 AM CDT reply actions
Give us a solid choice
Don’t sell yourself short on the WR position. It’s not an exact science or knowing if the talent will work out.
Talent like Brandon Marshall or Jerome Cotchery are out there and so is the possibility of getting that kind of talent in the 4th round just like where the both of them were drafted.
Angelo has momentum right now and there is loads of WR talent in the upcoming draft.
Speaking of the offensive line...
I hope nobody believes St. Clair would be a better option than Pace. Pace IS a much better LT than St. Clair, making this an upgrade at the position and giving Williams an opportunity to be mentored from the best.
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