Cutler Press Conference
What (essentially) was said:
Cutler:
- He was waiting for a phone call; really happy how it turned out.
- He loves the history/tradition of the team
- He thinks the two offenses (Bears/Broncos) are similar; and he thinks the weapons that the Bears have are also similar to the Broncos (ChiFan note: He mentioned Rashied Davis as a weapon. Wow.)
- He thinks our receivers are excellent. (ChiFan note: At least he's a decent PR person at pressers)
- Thinks he'll have an easy transition to the Bears
- Really seems excited about the receivers we have. Smiles a lot when he's talking about them.
- Compares this trade to his "second draft day"
- "How are you going to live up to Sid Luckman?" Cutler's response: "Man, I'm gonna have to do some research."
- He's looking forward to being on a running team; thought last year they threw too much
- Had no control over where he got traded
- He thinks that the fans of Chicago have more passion than Broncos
Lovie
- Everyone's excited; feels as though ballclub's improved since the last game.
- Not asking Jay to be savior; just want him to help us win games (ChiFan note: In other words, a savior)
- Loves Jay's laser-rocket arm
Jerry
- He's excited about Jay AND Orlando
- Actually, check that: He's very excited about all the pickups
- Thinks the OL can be a position of strength (ChiFan note: Whoops)
- He thinks that the Cutler signing triggered a tsunami energy
- "We have a winning quarterback and we feel really good about that"
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LMAO
Does that mean he doesn’t know who Luckman is? Awesome.
Well, I wouldn’t expect him to I reckon.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
Dude, for serious? 1986 was 23 years ago.
Can we drop it?
-halfblindcubbiegirl
by Dane Noble on Apr 3, 2009 5:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just a Joke
He was Joshin us. How can you grow up a bear fan and not know Who Sid Luckman is :)
by pete banachi on Apr 3, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my brother grew up a bears fan
he doesn’t know who Sid Luckman is. and he’s older than me and Cutler
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 3, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't matter...
whatever happened in Bears history prior to yesterday, now gets an asterisk… as *BC (Before Cutler).
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
by SackMan on Apr 3, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!
If the end of the world comes before week 1, I’ll be convinced that Jesus is a Packer fan.
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 3, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
True
But isn’t it FAR more likely that the ole’ boy downstairs puts on a cheezehead on Sundays?
by sabbath999 on Apr 4, 2009 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The devil likes the falcons
Hence, the reason he went down to Georgia.
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 4, 2009 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't care who you are....
That’s just funny, right there!
"I am Kyles mom , I support him but I don't believe in him"- GeauxBears
by scespy12 on Apr 4, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jay Cutler holding up the Bears jersey
That was magical. Anyone have a picture yet?
by Chicagosportsfan on Apr 3, 2009 5:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Being a Bear is srs bidnes
The shortest distance between two points is under construction.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 3, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he seriously needs to get back on the field....his face looks too chubby for an athlete
by aznsensation on Apr 3, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
off season stuff starts up on monday
chubby is better than how he looked a year or so ago. he dropped something like 40 lbs when he was diagnosed with diabetes. if chubby means he’s at a good weight and is healthy, i don’t care. :-)
The shortest distance between two points is under construction.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 3, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats a good thing
with him bein diabetic, it wouldnt be good if he looked to skinny. It means hes eating the way hes supposed to and most likely takin care of himself.
"Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. "---George S. Halas
by Halas is God!!!!! on Apr 3, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Comming This Fall!!!!
Neckbeard II – The New Stubble
The adventures of our new franchise QB as he starts off his Legacy with a convincing butt-kicking of his old team, now led by the original Neckbeard.
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Apr 3, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't look too excited there...
Haha. I can just see him jumping for joy… ?
Although I saw the press conference, he seems excited – yay!
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
by HoneyBear on Apr 4, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Memory
As much as I love Bears tradition, I don’t know if I want a QB who cares about it. Just like, as a Cubs fan, I’m perfectly happy with ballplayers who couldn’t care less about goats and Bartman.
Just go out and win.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
by xarker on Apr 3, 2009 5:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
habit. masochism.
;-)
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
by xarker on Apr 3, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh
I like players that know the history of the organizations they play for. At least the cliff notes versions of it. So long as they don’t feel like they’re the only one who can turn it around.
The shortest distance between two points is under construction.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 3, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
just shows how much you appreciate playing for this franchise. Brian Urlacher did his study of the bears before he was even drafted. I remember on a pregame show, he was asked how it felt to be walking in the footsteps of Butkus and Singletary. instantly, he said “and Bill George”.
He also was able to tell who the all time record holders in certain categories were. His knowledge of Bears history runs deep. I have so much respect for him, because he knows this teams legacy.
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 4, 2009 6:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But...
Cubs fans have so much to want to forget…
by sabbath999 on Apr 4, 2009 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey,
No “whops” on the OL statement. Yet.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
Dude, for serious? 1986 was 23 years ago.
Can we drop it?
-halfblindcubbiegirl
by Dane Noble on Apr 3, 2009 5:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lighten up!
We are still in the Kid Cutler glow. Do we have to come down off our “Pink Cloud” so soon?
I was thinking he was going to say. “Offensive Line? You mean you have one?”
by pete banachi on Apr 3, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lovie
on Sportscenter, coming up
"Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. "---George S. Halas
by Halas is God!!!!! on Apr 3, 2009 5:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
about him looking forward to being on a running team
smart response. Even with Peyton Manning, the Colts have always been a running team. Same with the Packers during the Favre era. same with the Cowboys of the 90’s. same with the Rams.
and the ’98 ’99 Broncos
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 3, 2009 5:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Zach Zaidman exlusive Jay Cutler interview
on 670 the score 7:00 ET
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 3, 2009 5:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jay talking so much about the WRs makes me nervous
We still won’t be competitive until we get some decent ones.. I don’t care who our QB is.
"...and when it comes to baseball, we have two favorite clubs: the Go-Go White Sox...and whoever plays the Cubs!!!"
by 815Sox on Apr 3, 2009 6:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ChiFan note: He mentioned Rashied Davis as a weapon. Wow.
I caught that too. Can’t say I would have done the same.
Insert clever and witty remark slash pun here!
UMD 8/04 - 5/08: Go Terps!
by ES46NE10 on Apr 3, 2009 6:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
One more signing JA..... Torry Holt
There was an incident a few years ago. The Bulls were killing the Knicks, scrubs were playing out the clock, and the fans were screaming at them to score 100 points for free Big Macs. They took a ton of shots, Knicks took offense and they tried to fight some Bulls players.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 19, 2009 5:25 PM EST
by Jbasic89 on Apr 3, 2009 6:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Also lets not forget
Our defense was 21st in yard allowed and 30th against the pass. Plus they are old as shit. We still have some major holes. I’m happy we did this, but I really don’t think that the acquisition of Cutler makes us some kind of immediate threat. It does make us better of course.
"...and when it comes to baseball, we have two favorite clubs: the Go-Go White Sox...and whoever plays the Cubs!!!"
by 815Sox on Apr 3, 2009 6:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Old as sh1t? Who on our defense is old?
Name all the starters over 30. Go ahead. Let’s see how many you come up with.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
by SackMan on Apr 3, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sackman's right, though he's being way too harsh in his response imo
I’m surprised – only Urlacher and Ogunleye are even 30.
The website says Kreutz is only 31, that can’t be right. He seems like he’s been around for 17 years.
So they’re not old, Charles Tillman just sucks.
Insert clever and witty remark slash pun here!
UMD 8/04 - 5/08: Go Terps!
by ES46NE10 on Apr 3, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Peanut is the shit
Vasher just sucks
There was an incident a few years ago. The Bulls were killing the Knicks, scrubs were playing out the clock, and the fans were screaming at them to score 100 points for free Big Macs. They took a ton of shots, Knicks took offense and they tried to fight some Bulls players.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 19, 2009 5:25 PM EST
by Jbasic89 on Apr 3, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How
do you figure that Charles Tillman sucks?
I thought that Kreutz was about 32, what website are you looking up ages on?
by Fridge72 on Apr 3, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=733X36LBJUQ&feature=related
Looks who gets burned.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Apr 4, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
look who was running a cover 2?
There was an incident a few years ago. The Bulls were killing the Knicks, scrubs were playing out the clock, and the fans were screaming at them to score 100 points for free Big Macs. They took a ton of shots, Knicks took offense and they tried to fight some Bulls players.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 19, 2009 5:25 PM EST
by Jbasic89 on Apr 4, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
they thought they could get to gus in time. hence the reason there wasn’t any man on man coverage. that had to do more with play-calling.
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 4, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
While I certainly think that play sucked
One bad play does not mean he sucks. The Bears were in cover 2 with Gus Ferrotte standing 5-7 yards in his end zone with absolutely no pressure.
There are more Tillman highlight reels than there are bloopers
by Fridge72 on Apr 5, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Waid a second "sackman"
Are you really trying to suggest that the Bears Defense doesn’t have alot of older players? What does being over 30 have to do with it? Do alot of football players make it well past there 30s???
"...and when it comes to baseball, we have two favorite clubs: the Go-Go White Sox...and whoever plays the Cubs!!!"
by 815Sox on Apr 3, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also... no reply
to the D last year being 30th against the pass and 21st in yards allowed? Or do you just want to focus on age?
We were 5th against the run which is good.. I think 16th in points allowed
"...and when it comes to baseball, we have two favorite clubs: the Go-Go White Sox...and whoever plays the Cubs!!!"
by 815Sox on Apr 3, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umm well
I think that Cutler does make us more of an immediate threat. Provided he picks up on the playbook quickly. Lets not forget that Orton has had years to learn Turner’s system. Hypothetically, Cutler with the same understanding of Bears offense as Orton. Bears win at least 2-4 more games last year.
Have to agree with Sackman concerning the ages of the defense. Really it has gotten pretty young over the past couple years.
by Fridge72 on Apr 3, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we'll win at least 12 games
There was an incident a few years ago. The Bulls were killing the Knicks, scrubs were playing out the clock, and the fans were screaming at them to score 100 points for free Big Macs. They took a ton of shots, Knicks took offense and they tried to fight some Bulls players.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 19, 2009 5:25 PM EST
by Jbasic89 on Apr 3, 2009 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if they weren't playing
the ravens, steelers and cardinals.
i would be all over that.
granted losing those games would still let them go 13-3, i can’t see them being that good right now. lots of offensive churn and questionable d. both of which cutler can make better, though.
by mike b on Apr 4, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the ravens and the cardinals arent that good.
the cardinals wont have boldin and i dont think the ravens are that good anyway.
There was an incident a few years ago. The Bulls were killing the Knicks, scrubs were playing out the clock, and the fans were screaming at them to score 100 points for free Big Macs. They took a ton of shots, Knicks took offense and they tried to fight some Bulls players.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 19, 2009 5:25 PM EST
by Jbasic89 on Apr 4, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I watched that, looked like Jay was really excited
I am sure he sighing a big relief that he did not end up a Lion or Brown, congrats once again Bears, I think you got a great QB for years to come, I really think you just got a HOF QB, but time will tell, very sad in Broncoland.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness
by Broncoman on Apr 3, 2009 6:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He should be happy
Chicago is one of the greatest cities in the US. Nothing against cities like Buffalo, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Detroit etc, but come on. This is Chicago. When Jim McMahon was drafted by a cold weather, run oriented team, I think he wanted to commit suicide.
When he realized it was Chicago, I think he very smartly understood that the city of Chicago and their fans are the best in the NFL! Period!
The Bears stole Jay Cutler and Cutler will own this city if they win.
by GeoMak on Apr 3, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha yeah he does
he looks like a chicago qb savior should
There was an incident a few years ago. The Bulls were killing the Knicks, scrubs were playing out the clock, and the fans were screaming at them to score 100 points for free Big Macs. They took a ton of shots, Knicks took offense and they tried to fight some Bulls players.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 19, 2009 5:25 PM EST
by Jbasic89 on Apr 3, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe a little
He’s no Jarred Lorenzon :-)
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Apr 3, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he kinda reminds me of
Elway. I don’t know why.
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 4, 2009 6:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because he doesn't have a jaw?
That would be anti-Elway.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Apr 4, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HA
I didn’t mean that though.
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 4, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't it be sad if the Broncos said Orton didn't pass the physical and the trade was off...
by aznsensation on Apr 3, 2009 7:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If that happened
I’d be at Halas Hall with a pitchfork and torch.
by Chicagosportsfan on Apr 3, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would kill Kyle Orton
Not even kidding.
There was an incident a few years ago. The Bulls were killing the Knicks, scrubs were playing out the clock, and the fans were screaming at them to score 100 points for free Big Macs. They took a ton of shots, Knicks took offense and they tried to fight some Bulls players.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 19, 2009 5:25 PM EST
by Jbasic89 on Apr 3, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Irony
Anyone else find it ironic that we have the QB that is known as “the next Brett Favre”?
I hope he can torture Packer fans for the next decade the way Brett tortured us!!!
by NovaBears on Apr 3, 2009 8:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Amen Brother!
I still find it funny that the NFL “experts” still say we have the 2nd best quarterback in the division…what a joke…
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Apr 3, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
aaron rodgers is good
but i think cutler will be better, as will our record.
There was an incident a few years ago. The Bulls were killing the Knicks, scrubs were playing out the clock, and the fans were screaming at them to score 100 points for free Big Macs. They took a ton of shots, Knicks took offense and they tried to fight some Bulls players.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 19, 2009 5:25 PM EST
by Jbasic89 on Apr 3, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he needs a better PR assistant
Jay, man…LEARN HOW TO SMILE, dude! That big picture of him holding up the Bears jersey, holy cow he looks like he’s just gotten arrested for something and getting his booking photo taken. He needs to hire one of those Hollywood-advisor types to for a couple hours one afternoon to teach him how to smile. (And don’t think the QB stars don’t do that. You see Tom Brady smile? I don’t think that comes naturally, he could be a man toothpaste supermodel or something if he wasn’t an NFL quarterback.)
by JohnPaul on Apr 3, 2009 9:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jay isn't as well-versed as Admiral Neckbeard was...
I guess that’s the difference between an SEC education and a Big 10 education. j/k but he needs to work on his speaking skills.
by aznsensation on Apr 3, 2009 10:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I can live with that...
as long as he can call the plays in the huddle and the snap count we’ll be fine.
by waywest on Apr 3, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can't compare their educations
by the schools they went to. Matt Leinart went to USC so you’d figure he’d be the smartest, but in his senior year, the only class he took was ballroom dancing.
There was an incident a few years ago. The Bulls were killing the Knicks, scrubs were playing out the clock, and the fans were screaming at them to score 100 points for free Big Macs. They took a ton of shots, Knicks took offense and they tried to fight some Bulls players.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 19, 2009 5:25 PM EST
by Jbasic89 on Apr 4, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since when
do kids who go to USC come out smarter then others?
"Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. "---George S. Halas
by Halas is God!!!!! on Apr 4, 2009 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well according to aznsensation,
a kid from Purdue is smarter than a kid from Vanderbilt.
There was an incident a few years ago. The Bulls were killing the Knicks, scrubs were playing out the clock, and the fans were screaming at them to score 100 points for free Big Macs. They took a ton of shots, Knicks took offense and they tried to fight some Bulls players.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 19, 2009 5:25 PM EST
by Jbasic89 on Apr 4, 2009 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He should be
smarter. And both should be smarter then partying surfers from USC. LOL
"Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. "---George S. Halas
by Halas is God!!!!! on Apr 4, 2009 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you do know that USC is much harder to get into than both of those schools right?
There was an incident a few years ago. The Bulls were killing the Knicks, scrubs were playing out the clock, and the fans were screaming at them to score 100 points for free Big Macs. They took a ton of shots, Knicks took offense and they tried to fight some Bulls players.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 19, 2009 5:25 PM EST
by Jbasic89 on Apr 4, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be willing to bet
that’s not true. Especially in the case of Vandy.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
by ChiFan13 on Apr 4, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
only becasue
he had already taken the rest he needed.
by mike b on Apr 4, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know...
Vandy is actually a very good school.
by tacologic on Apr 4, 2009 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh i know that
if I remember correctly they have a pretty good law school. Just as Purdue kicks butt at engineering.
"Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. "---George S. Halas
by Halas is God!!!!! on Apr 4, 2009 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was actually joking and making a generalization that most people believe in...
but i do believe on average, big ten schools have better academic programs than sec schools. Of course Vandy is a good school, it’s a private university for god sakes. It’s probably one of the best schools academically in the SEC, hence why they aren’t all that great in basketball and football. They’re the Northwestern of the SEC. :-)
by aznsensation on Apr 4, 2009 1:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vanderbuilt = Harvard of the South
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
by phastphil on Apr 4, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um, isn't that Duke?
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 4, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No. Duke = the France of the South
by Orval Overall on Apr 4, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
Dude, for serious? 1986 was 23 years ago.
Can we drop it?
-halfblindcubbiegirl
by Dane Noble on Apr 5, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
careful what you say about NU
Won 9 games in football this year.
Came close to making the NCAA basketball tourney this year (NIT instead).
And of course don’t forget they are the 4 time defending champions in Women’s Lacrosse (what, we gotta have something to be proud of, right?).
by Orval Overall on Apr 4, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cutler
said all of the right things. Just hearing him talk about the team and everything was exciting. I can’t wait for us to add something more for him to throw to. Olsen, Hester, Clark should be good, but we need another FA WR and a second round pick WR.
by Twins Territory on Apr 4, 2009 2:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Torry Holt or Matt Jones would be nice.
Plus a 2nd round pick rookie.
There was an incident a few years ago. The Bulls were killing the Knicks, scrubs were playing out the clock, and the fans were screaming at them to score 100 points for free Big Macs. They took a ton of shots, Knicks took offense and they tried to fight some Bulls players.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 19, 2009 5:25 PM EST
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