Chicago Bears Draft Update
by Adam T on Apr 7, 2009 2:00 PM CDT
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With the Cutler deal over most it is a bit harder to project what and where the Bears will go with their 2nd round pick (#49 overall). Most think that wide reciever is a must, but what if all the guys worth this pick are off the board? Do they go safety, defensive line?
Here is a look at known or expected visits and workouts .
Friday - Juaquin Iglesias, WR, Oklahoma
Pre-draft visits Al Afalava, Safety, Oregon State Private workouts Russell Allen, Linebacker, San Diego State Get together (we're not sure if these will be visits or private workouts) Todd Boeckman, Quarterback, Ohio State*
ADDED APRIL 4 Aaron Brown, Running back, TCU
Jason Chery, Wide receiver, Louisiana-Lafayette
Maurice Crum Jr., Linebacker, Notre Dame
Derek Kinder, Wide receiver, Pitt
T.J. Lang, Offensive lineman, Eastern Michigan
ADDED APRIL 4 Ellis Lankster, Cornerback, West Virginia
Henry Melton, Defensive end, Texas
Brandon Myers, Tight end, Iowa
Rich Ohrnberger, Guard, Penn State
Anthony Scirrotto, Safety, Penn State
Jamaal Westerman, Defensive end, Rutgers
Nathan Williams, Linebacker, Murray State
Eben Britton, Offensive tackle, Arizona
Kenny Britt, Wide receiver, Rutgers
John Gill, Defensive tackle, NorthwesternDarrius Heyward-Bey, Wide receiver, Maryland canceled
ADDED APRIL 4 Juaquin Iglesias, Wide receiver, Oklahoma
Phil Loadholt, Offensive tackle, Oklahoma
Lance Louis, Guard, San Diego State
Sherrod Martin, Safety, Troy
Mohamed Massaquoi, Wide receiver, Georgia
Michael Mitchell, Safety, Ohio
Hakeem Nicks, Wide receiver, North Carolina
Richard Quinn, Tight end, North Carolina
Mike Wallace, Wide receiver, Ole Miss*
Brian Robiskie, Wide receiver, Ohio State
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I think it will still be a WR
But can I get someone to add to this post what round these guys are projected as or at least direct me somewhere where I can find out where they are projected?
by GallopingGhost on Apr 7, 2009 2:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If Britt and Robiskie
are both gone by the 49th the rest of the wide recievers will probably not contribute much in their first year. I would take a 330# line smashing NT like Ron Brace. We really need to sign a FA wide out.
by luckie815 on Apr 7, 2009 2:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
so you advocate
best available player?
cause I do too.
Taking a WR just to take a WR is a very bad move.
by tempchad on Apr 7, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We are not bad off
Cutler will have plenty of targets if we sign a FA. Two good tight ends and maybe Kellen Davis in his second year. Then there is always Forte for a check down.
by luckie815 on Apr 7, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does no one like Iglesias?
I watched a few OK games and came away impressed with him.
by patagonia on Apr 7, 2009 2:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
But after the first Major Wright hit, he didn't look the same in Miami.
He needs to be able to take the hits from the head-hunting safeties in the NFL. He’s only 6’ and barely over 200 pounds.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Apr 7, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think your...
thinking Manny Johnson, not Iglesias I don’t remember Iglesias getting jacked by Major Wright, but Johnson did on the first play of the game.
by chase17 on Apr 7, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember Nic Harris
twisting Percy Harvin’s lower leg. That was classy.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
by ChiFan13 on Apr 8, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, we got pissed about that at Alligator Army.
Or I thought we did, at least. Can’t seem to find it in the archives. Hmm… I know I was screaming at the TV and my neighbors came knocking on the door.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Apr 8, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We did too at Burnt Orange Nation
We were unanimously rootin for the Gators.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
by ChiFan13 on Apr 9, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get the need for a DLineman.
Let Marinelli work his magic with the current staff, maybe get one guy late in the draft. We really need someone on the line, and Pace isn’t a long term solution.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Apr 7, 2009 2:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Marinelli can't work magic
if they are always hurt like Dusty. Another good NT would be good.
by luckie815 on Apr 7, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dline needs depth
the Giants won the SB going 7 or 8 deep on the defensive line.
The shortest distance between two points is under construction.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 7, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a great point...
And we were a lot better in ’06 when guys like Mark Anderson, Alfonso Boone, and Ian Scott were rotating in and out, to spell guys…
Brian McRae's 5 o'clock shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Apr 7, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
D-line needs definite work
Tommie Harris is an enigmatic humongous question mark. Dusty Dvoracek can’t stay healthy and has done virtually nothing even when healthy, therefore is strong candidate to be cut. Anthony Adams is a journeyman at best. Mark Anderson was a one-year wonder and another candidate to be cut. Adewale Ogunleye is remarkably average and invisible too much of the time. Alex Brown is a hard-working overachiever. Israel Idonji is best labeled depth.
by BLou on Apr 7, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Cut? Just, plain old “Pack yer bags and get out” kind of cut?
Really?
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
by Dane Noble on Apr 7, 2009 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dvoracek is not good
His impact on stopping the run on those few ocassions when he has actually been on the football field is wholly unimpressive. He’ll be gone during training camp. If not sooner.
by BLou on Apr 7, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I love how certain you always are.
He’ll be gone during training camp. If not sooner.
Rec’d to track it.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
by Dane Noble on Apr 7, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
welcome to the world of blue mike
where if you don’t agree you’re told to go pound sand…
whats your reason for expertise in football, mikey? did you play that in college too?
The shortest distance between two points is under construction.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 7, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol...
I’ve been told to pound sand by him already. But we cleared all of that up :)
What is blue mike?
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
by Dane Noble on Apr 7, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BCB troll
he’s…. entertaining at times. But usually just smug and annoying.
The shortest distance between two points is under construction.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 7, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you guys think robiskie will still be there by our 49th pick?
by hovg on Apr 7, 2009 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
I think there’s a chance, but it’s a small chance at that.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
by ChiFan13 on Apr 7, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the second round is so hard to predict
The shortest distance between two points is under construction.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 7, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
6'3" 195 4.49 40
sounds like he’ll be gone
by tempchad on Apr 7, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
he’s been WAY overhyped by the mock draft community, and he’ll last longer than we think. I could be wrong, but he has too little production to warrant the hype, imo. He started out as a mid-round prospect, and now he’d a potential first rounder.
DEJESUS!!!
by tomas21 on Apr 7, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thing about Robiskie
Is he runs precise routes and his hands are pretty good. I dunno about his production but i’m pretty sure it was low last year due to Pryor being named the starter.
"The phone's for you, I think it's the Devil."
by Acreman20 on Apr 8, 2009 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
I haven’t heard him being a 1st rounder, but that’s beside the point.
The one knock on Robiskie prior to the combine was his lack of top-end speed. Besides that, he was a coach’s son, good hands, fluid route runner, etc. I think he deserves the job, but now that I’m really thinking about it, I don’t think he’ll last to #49.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
by ChiFan13 on Apr 8, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Iglesias
For what it’s worth at our first pick in the draft Iglesias is actually a good deal. He is tall and fast and makes plays. I think he would be a great fit on the Bears and be a talent equivalent to a Marcus Robinson or Marty Booker when they were actually good football players. Not a bad pick in my opinion!
by Stellarpete22 on Apr 7, 2009 4:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
tall????
6ft aint tall for a reciever is it???
"" Jay Cutler is our quaterback" haha
by NOR CAL BEAR on Apr 7, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and he's slow
4.5 at the combine.
granted they said it was a slow track but 4.5 is death for a nfl wr
by tempchad on Apr 7, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love how 4.5 is death.
Yet 4.49 is a first round guarantee (a few comments up).
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Apr 7, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
please note the slow track comment
it’s key
by tempchad on Apr 7, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and let me add that robiskie is 6'3"
that makes a huge difference. if you don’t have size or speed, you probably won’t make it.
by tempchad on Apr 7, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't Jerry Rice and Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin run like 4.8s
by chase17 on Apr 7, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
shhhh bullshit
don’t give me exceptions and i dont’ think that either one ran a 4.8.
it’s very rare for a quality nfl wr to be that slow.
by tempchad on Apr 7, 2009 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fitzgerald ran a 4.63
and i would bet that rice didn’t fare much worse
by tempchad on Apr 7, 2009 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm thinking if
Robiskie is available we’ll go that route if not I think it’s BPA. Who knows maybe JA finds a way to move up in the draft but I doubt it. I could see Holt becoming a Bear the closer we get to the draft. Then again I could be drunk off my ass and have no idea what I’m talking about.
If things came easy, then everybody would be great at what they did, let's face it.
Mike Ditka
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by Ditkavsworld on Apr 7, 2009 5:10 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
LMAO.
And wrecked.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
by Dane Noble on Apr 7, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are all
over the place… when do you sleep?? :)
If things came easy, then everybody would be great at what they did, let's face it.
Mike Ditka
Catch Phrase of the day: YAAAAAAAY! <---- Courtesy of ChiFan13.
Because the internet is the best place to assault a religion and a country. Sir, if I ever meet you in the real world, expect a thorough beat down.- Special thanks to bs.uf15bosox9bears23
by Ditkavsworld on Apr 7, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every other Thursday for a couple of hours.
:)
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
by Dane Noble on Apr 7, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Robiskie doesn't really fit with the need
The Bears need a burner and they need a big physical receiver. Robiskie in my view is overrated when it comes to what he will do in the NFL.
by BLou on Apr 7, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the only thing the bears have is a burner
or are you saying they need a burner with great size too? sorry but only so many randy moss’ in this league.
by tempchad on Apr 7, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BLou
You don’t really fit the need of the blog, so consider yourself cut.
If things came easy, then everybody would be great at what they did, let's face it.
Mike Ditka
Catch Phrase of the day: YAAAAAAAY! <---- Courtesy of ChiFan13.
Because the internet is the best place to assault a religion and a country. Sir, if I ever meet you in the real world, expect a thorough beat down.- Special thanks to bs.uf15bosox9bears23
by Ditkavsworld on Apr 8, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ugh.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
by Dane Noble on Apr 8, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You didn't like the comment?
If things came easy, then everybody would be great at what they did, let's face it.
Mike Ditka
Catch Phrase of the day: YAAAAAAAY! <---- Courtesy of ChiFan13.
Because the internet is the best place to assault a religion and a country. Sir, if I ever meet you in the real world, expect a thorough beat down.- Special thanks to bs.uf15bosox9bears23
by Ditkavsworld on Apr 8, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BLou has just been getting nailed lately.
Not that he isn’t setting himself up for it though.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
by Dane Noble on Apr 8, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I live by a ask and ye
shall receive mantra. Plus when you lay out a line like Dusty will be cut, it kind of lays the groundwork necessary to get it thrown back in your face. I also wanted to be told to go pound sand. Never been told that before.
If things came easy, then everybody would be great at what they did, let's face it.
Mike Ditka
Catch Phrase of the day: YAAAAAAAY! <---- Courtesy of ChiFan13.
Because the internet is the best place to assault a religion and a country. Sir, if I ever meet you in the real world, expect a thorough beat down.- Special thanks to bs.uf15bosox9bears23
by Ditkavsworld on Apr 8, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol.
Good enough.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
by Dane Noble on Apr 8, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 except the sand thing
i’m tired of his one statement bears guru antics. it’s like he has blogger’s autism
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 8, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
If things came easy, then everybody would be great at what they did, let's face it.
Mike Ditka
Catch Phrase of the day: YAAAAAAAY! <---- Courtesy of ChiFan13.
Because the internet is the best place to assault a religion and a country. Sir, if I ever meet you in the real world, expect a thorough beat down.- Special thanks to bs.uf15bosox9bears23
by Ditkavsworld on Apr 8, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WR
Some of the first round wide receivers everyone is projecting in the late first round will slide to the second. It always happens.
My guess is either Nicks or Harvin will be available early in the second which will push some others down as well.
by Q51 on Apr 7, 2009 6:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ramses Barden?
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 7, 2009 8:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Best available wide receiver, safety, defensive lineman
I think it comes down to that. While the Bears do indeed have crisis need for a wide receiver it would be a mistake to reach on a guy with that valuable #49 second round pick. Jerry Angelo and his warroom staff need to let the draft come to them and make smart pick.
Something tells me Percy Harvin will be there at #49 given his recent marijuana issue and the fact that it is somewhat difficult to project what his real value in the NFL will be. Regarding the other names mentioned above??? It’s all speculation. Every NFL team invites a boatload of prospects in for private workouts. And the correlation between which being invited in for a private workout by a team and actually having that team draft or sign you as a free agent is not terribly direct.
by BLou on Apr 7, 2009 9:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
guys who could be there
the 40 times are a little off b/c they are what the teams reported.
Percy Harvin 5’11" 4.36 projected 1st round , big play guy
Hakeem Nicks 6’1" 4.57 projected 1st round, great hands
Darrius Hayward-Bay 6’2" 4.34 projected 1-2nd round; fast, tall, drops passes
Derrick Williams 5’11" 4.43 1-2nd projected; strong leader, fast
Brian Robiskie 6’3" 4.49 2nd projected; prototype WR, most NLF ready
Kenny Britt 6’4" 4.54 2nd rd projected; tall, good route runner, finds soft spots.
Juaquin Inglesias 6’1" 4.49 2-3rd projected; quick but not fast ,good hands
Ramsis Barden 6’6" 4.58 2-3rd projected; tall jump ball target, 2nd tier competition
Louis Murphy 6’2" 4.38 3rd projected; fast, fairly tall, overshadowed by harvin
Mohamed Massaquoi 6’2" 4.54 3-4 projected; prototype build, drops passes\
Austin Collie 6’2" .4.56 4-th projected; strong, good hands, older 24, runs great routes
Brandon Gibson 6’1" 4.53 3-4rd projected; quick but not fast, good hands and route running, NFL ready
by Bears-Bullsfan on Apr 7, 2009 9:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What the teams reported at their pro days?
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
by Dane Noble on Apr 7, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
times
what the teams stated prior to the combine.
by Bears-Bullsfan on Apr 7, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, okay then.
Just out of curiosity, where’d you find this info?
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
by Dane Noble on Apr 7, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
little here little there
espn, sporting news, lindy’s draft issue, sun-times and other websites.
by Bears-Bullsfan on Apr 7, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotcha.
I was hoping that whoever your source was wasn’t reporting some of those 40 times as the most current. No worries though. Thanks.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi)
by Dane Noble on Apr 7, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Closest thing to drafing Mike Brown's replacement?
Won’t be a 2nd rounder but I saw an assessment of FS Rashad Johnson (projected 5th-6th rounder) on nfldraftscout.comt and one line really caught the eye, describing him as a…
…quarterback on defense because of his knowledge of every position on the field and ability to react to offensive formations.
ChiFan’s assessment a while ago said good things about him as a pass-defending FS, if not so hot against the run. Still, with Mike Brown gone we need someone who can lead the defence.
by Spongie on Apr 7, 2009 9:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I've watched ALOT of Johnson
And he was brilliant under Saban. He’s not GREAT against the run but he’s definitely not scared to come up and lay the wood on somebody. He’s a sure tackler in my opinion but his strongest assets are that he’s smart and pretty good against the pass. I think he ran the second fastest 40 among the safeties? Not positive tho. Definitely worth a 3rd round pick.
"The phone's for you, I think it's the Devil."
by Acreman20 on Apr 8, 2009 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds encouraging – I know we signed Bullock but our depth is still thin at FS and we’ve seen how that position is critical to the pass defence in the cover-2 scheme.
by Spongie on Apr 8, 2009 2:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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