If you can find a link, post it up. But definitely a story worth following…

And I’m sure that the Broncos have become concerned after seeing his deep ball woes for themselves. Plus his inability to scramble outside the pocket. Remember, they are used to seeing Cutler do these with ease on a regular basis. Orton or any other QB has some very big shoes to fill in Denver.

it says that Quinn is likely to be the opening day starter for the browns and that they received two substantial offers for him (including first round picks) that they rejected. It’s on ESPN Insider so I’ll just post the article:

A source has told Tony Grossi of The Cleveland Plain Dealer that Brady Quinn will be the starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns in Week 1 of the 2009 NFL season. Although the source does admit that there will be an “open competition” between Quinn and Derek Anderson, Quinn will emerge as the victor. The source also stated that there were two “very substantial” trade offers for Quinn that the team rejected, both of which involved a first-round draft pick.

Grossi decided to have a little fun with everyone, too, describing his source as follows: “I recently spoke with someone I will identify as a league source. This person does not work for an NFL team but works with NFL teams and has a prominent name.” Based on the information this person provided, it would seem that they must have pretty high level access – especially considering the general impenetrability of the Browns’ organization under the Eric Mangini-George Kokinis regime – but their identity will remain a mystery unless Grossi wishes to divulge this secret sometime in the future.

Quinn played in three games in 2008, completing 50.6 percent of his passes for 518 yards, throwing two touchdowns against two interceptions, earning a 66.6 QB rating. This rating falls in the “poor” range, but is actually better than the 66.5 rating Anderson put up over the course of a 10-game campaign.

That’s all from the same article, couldn’t make it stay in the same quote box…

Either McDaniels is trying to be the Bucs of the West and gather as many QBs as possible and not like any of them or he just does not know what he wants. They should have traded Cutler to the Browns if he likes Quinn over Orton, you had the chance man.

Let’s not toss the baby with the bathwater – the no huddle has its place, as everyone seems to agree. But the reason that Orton excelled with it was that he is superb at calling audibles. His ability to read defenses and come up with alternative plays is apparently a game changer. McDaniels has already commented that this is one of the strengths that he will require from his offense, so Orton seems to continue to fit it well.

Jeez, I didn’t realize we already had Tom Brady/Peyton Manning on our roster, why the hell did we let him go for that bum Cutler?? (sarcasm….). That is the kool aid capital of the world..(although most of them are pretty good guys)

This broncobear guy is constantly spewing about how he knows the bears better than any bear fan alive, he breaks down film to get the inside scoop. He should tell Lovie and Ron Turner hello from all of us and let him know some of our ideas..

I’m a lifelong Bears fan living in Aurora, Colorado (you’d recognize me as the only guy wearing a Cutler jersey) and I have a few observations concerning the Broncos; J Mac is in wayyyyyyyyyyy over his head! To me, the dude has the Hoodie swagger without the Hoodie genius. Man-gina is in the same mold. They inheritted all of daddy’s bad traits (parnoid, cocky, inderrent to player morale) without his unique ability to “think outta the box” competitively. BTW; Man-gina is collecting WR’s like J Mac is gobbling up RB’s. Weird. I had a PC game called Mike Ditka Football in the early 90’s and the Broncos would stack RB’s like cord-wood in that game. How ironical!

I think you guys should probably give the teams the chance to play a game before you jump to conclusions.

It’s quite possible that Cutler isn’t half the QB that you guys think he is and McD knows exactly what he’s doing. We’ll just have to wait and see.

Posternutbag,
  Per your own criteria, “I’ve watched 3 or 4 NFLN Replays of Bears games…” Rex Grossman qualifies as a starter. Kyle Orton is definately a “decent” QB, but he is not and probably never will be (in my humble opinion) a probowler. Didn’t the Broncos have “all of their eggs in one basket” when they had Elway? CUtler is an upgrade over Orton by just about anybody’s standards. Besides all of that, the point remains that it is believed that JMac was trying to get Cassel (all eggs in one basket?) and Quinn. This is very puzzling, considering the offense was their strength last year.

What kind of a douche would think that Josh McDaniels went to Denver with a brief to get rid of their franchise QB ? Cutler saw his situation in Denver was not good. If a QB as good as he is can get 8-8 out of them then who’s to say they wouldn’t have gone 0-16 without him. No running game, defense sucked. Cutler is where Cutler wants to be, where he always wanted to be …. home.

As a Bear Fan living in Colorado, I obviously followed this closely. And I learned ALOT from a Radio Host named Dave Logan (an ex-Bronco with “sources” within the organization). He was extremely upset about the trade and didn’t try to hide it. During JMac’s interview after the trade, Logan seemed to hint that, according to his sources, JMac was less than forthright with his statements. After Shanny was chopped, Bowlen did, in fact, tell Sir J that his offensive coaches would be kept in place. After all, the offense wasn’t the weakness. Bowlen must have planned on hiring a defensive-minded coach. After JMac was hired, that went out the window and the previous offensive staff was chopped. (Bowlen later said he didn’t remember the conversation with Jay but it probably happened) Anyway, after that, Jay did sit down with JMac and was told that he (Jay) was a perfect “fit” for JMac’s system and would thrive in it. Shortly afterwards, news surfaced that JMac was actively pursuing Cassel. Jmac told Cutler and the media that the Broncos had received a few calls and simply listened to them. Here, Logan hints that JMac initiated the calls and was bent on trading for Cassel. After this, Jay and JMac again sat down and Jmac went all Hoodie on Jay, stating that, although Jay’s their QB, ANYBODY can and will be traded if it will improve the team. Here, Jay stated that he came from the meeting believing he was still on the trading block. I believe that, after being lied to by both the owner AND the new coach (twice), Jay he now refused to sit down and listen to either of them again. At this point, I still think Jay thought this would all blow over, since the mandatory stuff was months away. I honestly believe Jay was stunned that the Broncos traded him, since he really had no leverage to force a trade. Per Dave Logan, JMac never wanted Jay and did what he had to do to get rid of him. Here’s what I think: Had JMac instantly returned the Broncos to the playoffs, people would have felt that it was partly because Shanny drafted a great QB. Who knows? However, Washington just went threw a similiar situation but were upfront with their QB throughout the entire process. THey seem to be in much better shape then Denver. Hmmmm…