Should Bears Fans Have Faith in Their Management? Volume II
by Dane Noble on May 13, 2009 1:52 PM CDT
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PrintTwo months ago, we brought you a story relating to the current state of the Bears football team, broken down by players, coaches, and management. There were a lot of mixed feelings coming from the Bears faithful two months ago... but a lot has happened since then.
I would like to take a moment to compare the evaluations of then to the evaluations of now. After doing so, let's vote again on our level of faith in the Chicago Bears management, and see if anything has changed.
Let's take a look first at the player perspective.
March's analysis: From a player perspective, we have many talented young players, with the potential to make an impact for many years to come. We have great veteran leadership as well that still have a few good years left in them. True, we have some holes to fill... but doesn't every team? Are we worse off than the rest of the league? I think the Bears are probably middle of the road when it comes to our roster.
Current analysis: I would have to say the roster looks a lot better than it did in March. We made an outstanding trade for a Pro Bowl quarterback, had some solid Free Agent signings with Orlando Pace, Kevin Shaffer, and Frank Omiyale, and had what seems like will be a pretty decent draft. Compared to the rest of the NFL, we definitely improved our roster better than a lot of teams have.
Next comes the coaching perspective.
March's analysis: We have a talented Head Coach, who has been given more responsibility with the defense. We brought in one of the best DLine specialists in football with Rod Marinelli. Our special teams have been one of the best in the league for several years, but offensively... well, not so much. Shouts of "Fire Ron Turner!" will undoubtedly commence once the season gets underway... and who knows how much Bob Babich will actually do? Compared to the rest of the league, I'd say the Bears coaching staff is probably average.
Current analysis: Nothing has changed since March in the coaching ranks, but I will add that Jerry Angelo seems to have put some pressure on our coaches, saying that we are acquiring the talent and that it is now up to the coaches to figure out how to best utilize it. I'd still say the Bears coaching staff is average compared to the rest of the NFL, but the expectations are probably a bit higher than a lot of teams.
And finally, the management perspective.
March's analysis: Outside of a few obvious names around the league (Parcells, Millen, Smith, Shannahan, Jones), most people are not that familiar with the executives that make business and personnel decisions for their football teams. But I do know one thing: most of us are very familiar both with the history of our management and the current staff. A lot of criticism gets thrown in the direction of McCaskey, Phillips, and Angelo. But is it warranted? How would our executives compare with the rest of the league?
Current analysis: A lot of people seem to think that Jerry Angelo might have saved his job this offseason, most notably by orchestrating the monster trade that brought Chicago one of the most talented QBs in the league. It has been stated that Angelo's moves are ultimately decided by his bosses... so maybe Ted Phillips and his bosses loosened up a bit more than usual.
Overall, last March showed that the Bears were a typical "middle of the road" football team, something that had its fanbase very unsettled on. A lot of you stated, through voting in the poll, that your level of trust in the management team was not all that high.
Has that changed since March? What is your current level of trust in the Chicago Bears management?
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Just not a Lovie fan
Until he loses that deer in the headlights look during games, I don’t have much faith in him. Also, his stubborn attitude toward his system and inability to make adjustments during games is below average at best.
I love the way Angelo spends money.
He is shrewd 90% of the time. He doesn’t over pay, but he does pay fair. He finds ways to cut lots of corners (no pun intended) financially to clear room to pay big dollars to pieces he believes count, like Urlacher, Harris, and Vasher/Tillman for example. He also got Briggs at a bargain if you ask me. Now just because you make the signing doesn’t guarantee the player continues to perform, but based on the knowledge at the time of signing of the player the deals are excellent.
I’m very excited to see Lovie even more involved on defense and the addition of Rod Marinelli. The first year Lovie came to town, they went crazy on his style of fundamentals, tipping balls, stripping balls, picking up incomplete passes on the run, every man to the ball, etc. I expect a big push on that kind of stuff again.
Ron Turner makes some strange calls here and there, but honestly looking back at the talent, he has done a solid job with what he has. Last season was pretty remarkable for him, imo. Orton was not that good, the receivers were terrible, and the line was below average. There were several games that we should have won based on his play calling that the defense chocked away.
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Generally speaking
In 2009, no American should have faith in management, no matter what the business.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
heres why;
2004: 5-11
2005: 11-5 NFC north title
2006: 13-3 Drafting Devin Hester superbowl appearance
This Bears team has no business being superbowl contenders and yet, they are. almost everyone thought they were gonna be at the bottom of the league in ’08 and they were a victory away from reaching the playoffs, despite bad coordinators, bad players and Injuries.
I have faith in this management, and if you think they are not doing a good job, you should take a glimpse at the situations in Tampa Bay, Cleveland, and Detroit.
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on May 13, 2009 2:17 PM CDT reply actions
Despite bad coordinators, bad players
Sounds like a management issue to me. Management should bring in good players and coordinators don’t you think?
Are you saying the HC saved the team. Somebody has to get credit. And what is wrong with Tampa Bay?
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what is wrong with Tampa Bay?
You’re kidding me, right? well, besides not doing jack shit since 2002, losing their defensive coordinator who had them in the top ten amongst the league for ten straight years, and axing their head coach and GM in favor of a punk ass Linebackers coach, who in turn axed the heart and soul of the team, nothing, I guess.
To answer your first question, yes management should bring in good players and coordinators.
Isn’t that the goal in every front office on every team?
Does it always work that way?
And I don’t recall management making Babich Defensive Coordinator, do you?
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on May 13, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
As far as Tampa goes
They played pretty well last season until the final stretch. There is no way to properly judge this year’s team until after they play. I guess you can guess, but I don’t think anyone guessed the Cowboys would miss the playoffs last year or the Falcons would make the playoffs.
My comment about the players was in reference to your comment about players. The post is asking do we have good management and coaches. You make it sound like the organization has done pretty well despite not having good players.
How can you say good management and also say we have bad players and bad coordinators? It is an oxymoron. If management put together bad players and coordinators, then management is bad. If we win, someone deserves the credit. Are you saying management gets credit for wins even though the pick bad players. I’m so confused!
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Accidentally voted 50-74
because I was thinking about the coaching staff only. After this off-season, so far I would go 75-94 because of what JA has done. Before this off-season I would have went 5-24. But what a difference one great off-season has done for JA in my mind. Didn’t care for him at all before this off-season and I still rate our coaching staff at 50-74 until they prove themselves with our newly aquired talent.
Hear about the blind hooker, you gotta hand it to her.
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on May 13, 2009 2:21 PM CDT reply actions
Coaching
The addition of a DL & DB coach with REAL Pro NFL experience will go a long way in finally teaching the fundamentals and coaching up the players to their true potential.
50% as long as the criteria for a job on Lovie's staff is you must be a BFF of Lovie.
Can’t have much faith in the coaching staff when competence is of secondary importance. Why does Bob Babich still have a job? Also agree completely with the first post (BearFan611)
75-94
until we see how this season goes..if we can’t get at least 10 wins then im going back to 5-24
right down the middle
im still not impressed. i think overall the trust factor should go up some but not as high as 75 to 94 percent trust. true we got jay cutler but until we show that we know or even can use him i say it should be right down the middle or maybe a bit less. i dont really think that there has been any real trust overall trhu out the whole org to say that aqcuiring jay would or should boost it up so high so fast. i say prove to us that you are really trying to get to the super bowl and not just make money. put all of the talent to the best possible use. i say if they dont have hester up to par at receiver this year the hope that he ever will is lost. and if they do my trust will bo up because with a cutler hester combo we could be really good. then my trust will go way up. if not and they f it up again my trust will go back down. what good is one guy if we cant use him. especially if we are going to pay him all the bonuses listed in the article b 4 this one.
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