High Fantasy Ranking for Matt Forte
by Adam T on May 14, 2009 12:24 PM CDT
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NFL.com has their fantasy football rankings up and Matt Forte has found himself near the top of the list. In the Top 100 players, Forte comes in at #2 behind Adrian Peterson. Obviously, Forte's value increases if it is a reception league. I'd imagine also having a QB ranked in the Top 10 (#9), something that is completely foreign to Bears fans, helps those out.
Take a look at the top 10: Is Forte ranked correctly?
1) Adrian Peterson
2) Matt Forte
3) Michael Turner
4) Maurice Jones-Drew
5) DeAngelo Williams
6) Chris Johnson
7) Drew Brees
8) Stephen Jackson
9) Brian Westbrook
10) Frank Gore
Other Bears listed:
Jay Cutler: #9 quarterback
Devin Hester: #34 receiver
Earl Bennett: #66 receiver
Greg Olsen: #6 tight end
Desmond Clark: #26 tight end
Robbie Gould: #16 kicker (I think Gould got rooked here unless they are assuming he gets less FGs with Cutler in town)
Chicago D/ST: #11 (I think this one depends on what stats are used. The Bears will be near the top of takeaways and the return game)
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Forte does seem a bit high, simply because
he is only in his sophomore year. Wait, Forte #2 overall (all positions)?! Wow.
Cutler #9 QB? I think he should be above Rivers, Rogers, and Romo.
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I think you have to factor in the receivers in this one
He can be a great QB, but if his receivers aren’t open or can’t catch the ball it affects his number. His rank also goes down because we are still a run first team.
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^what he said
this isn’t based on player talent alone.
Rivers
pretty good..I would take rivers. More accurate and did it with less Quality wr’s. Have to give rodgers his due, no running game and he was pretty good. Definitely better than Romo who collapsed. I would put Jay anywhere from 6-9. It is pretty close.
Forte at #2
Actually that is the right place for him….
Rushing and Receiving….
Not many guys out there that are as valuable for fantasy….
I've officially adopted #94 Marcus Harrison!
that's exactly what I was thinking
it’s his ability as a pass catcher that puts him that high. Don’t know if more playing time for Jones will affect his fantasy stock or not. But Cutler should be higher than 9, even if the receiving core isn’t top notch.
Because as far as we're concerned, there is still no team in the history of the NFL that could beat the '85 Bears.
by Ditkavsworld on May 14, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
So if we are not dealing with a catches league, he drops to what #?
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Still top 5.
Because as far as we're concerned, there is still no team in the history of the NFL that could beat the '85 Bears.
by Ditkavsworld on May 15, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
In my all-Bears-fan fantasy league
I’m guessing he’ll go first. I would pick him there – I just don’t see him consistently getting less than 100 combined yards per game, with a high chance for touchdowns. That I think having to root for Purple Jesus might make my head hurt a bit too much, if only from the amount of beer I would have to consume to make it possible.
by SouthSidePolack on May 14, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Forte at #2 is right for him?
No way, not yet. Especially not the #2 overall player in the NFL at all positions.
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And a turrible one at that.
/Hopes I’m wrong.
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Again this is the same reason Westbrook was always ranked so high
if you factor in catches, Forte’s numbers are inflated. If you remove the catching aspect, his would be at least ranked below Turner and Williams. He is over CJ because he still splits running time with Lendale. Jackson, Westbrook and Gore are always injured, so he probably gets ranked ahead of them for that reason.
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There are almost no other players that
Could put up 1300 rushing 700 recieving in a seaon combined with a better QB that should lead to more TD opportunities… And he NEVER fumbles.
I've officially adopted #94 Marcus Harrison!
Your saving grace in that comment was
the inclusion of the word “almost”. And, like I said above, I hope I am wrong.
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Name anyone that is hands down a better player than forte.
How about in fantasy numbers
I've officially adopted #94 Marcus Harrison!
AP, Drew Brees,
Brian Westbrook, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, and maybe even Michael Turner.
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Quarterbacks do not have as
much fantasy football value as true, stud #1 running backs do. The draft value is not there in standard leagues. FF teams usually start 2 RB’s and 1 QB. With only 32 starting RB’s in the league, there’s a premium to get a good one. Not true with QBs even though they’ll probably get more fantasy points than the RBs. Your fantasy team is probably better if you’re drafting RB’s and WR’s with your first 3 picks minimum before grabbing a QB. I would never draft a QB in the 1st round…ever.
by Mike Mueller on May 14, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I generally don't pick a QB until 5 or lower unless I am
really happy with my backs and receivers so far and a stud QB is still sitting there.
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They think he will see less defenders in the box
Which he will because Cutler will make a defense pay if they put 8 in the box to stop the run…
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
I sure hope Hester and Bennett outperform their spots! If our #1 receiver ends up being the 34th best WR in the league…ouch!
Haven't had much luck with Bears
on my fantasy teams (Hester ‘07, DEF ’08), but I have had Gould as my kicker for the last two years with good results. Devin is a good option at receiver if he’s still going to be returning kicks of some variety – guaranteed a couple of points (assuming he can catch the ball on the 25-30 yard pass you know he’s going to get) plus the upside of possible 6-pt plays at any time. That said, I would say Devin is right about where he should be, if only because there is a definite boom/bust that comes with playing him – he’s just doesn’t get the consistent points that I want out of my “starting lineup” of fantasy players.
by SouthSidePolack on May 14, 2009 12:45 PM CDT reply actions
34 is about right
He is a starting WR for a winning team that is going to score alot of points. That inflates his value. He’ll get opportunities and a few long touchdowns. 34 puts him about at a 3rd receiver on your fantasy team which is about fine.
by Mike Mueller on May 14, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions
did i miss a memo or something?
no tomlinson in the top 10! holy carp
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Must have...
It was titled Tomlinson is old and used up also no longer effective.
I've officially adopted #94 Marcus Harrison!
He is at #13.
He is broken down and Sproles will take a lot of his carries.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
He has had one bad season...
in which he was injured for most of it. I expect LT to return to dominant form next year.
I think Forte is 4th
I have to put M Jones-Drew and Michael Turner ahead of Forte. MJD is now the feature back in Jax and has been a touchdown machine for a couple of years while being a backup. Jax drafted two tackles with their first 2 draft picks: Eugene Monroe and Eben Britton. Carolina plugged in a rookie tackle last year and their rushing game greatly improved. Jax’s will this year. MJD is definitely number 2 on my list.
I put Turner ahead of Forte, but just barely. I see Forte’s attempts going down this year because Cutler will throw more than Orton did and a healthier Kevin Jones will be used more.
by Mike Mueller on May 14, 2009 2:08 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Robbie Gould deserves his ranking.
I’ve been all for the Bears bringing in another place kicker for awhile now. I like Gould and he’s an accurate kicker as long as he isn’t kicking beyond 48 yards, but thats the problem, he definitely lacks leg strength that other place kickers have.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on May 14, 2009 2:55 PM CDT reply actions
When I drafted forte in the 6th round last year
All of the other guys on my league laughed at me and called me a “homer”.
By week 3 they had all stopped laughing
By week 8 they were sick about it :)
Seems high...
…but it’s hard to know who to bump above him. Turner? Likely to fall backwards. MJD? Will bounce back, but how high? Williams and Johnson, I don’t think should go higher…
I haven’t started preparing for this year yet, but my snap read is that Jackson and Westbrook are rated low. Jackson, at least, you can understand because there’s a lot of risk that that offense will suck. But Westbrook is a machine. The injury risk is there, but he can put up much bigger stats than the other guys.
Yes Forte should be high
think about it he had 12 total tds and about 1800 total yards with kyle orton. Hell have less catches and i think hell score double digit rushing tds. Olsen is the guy im hoping breaks out and if we dont sign plax olsen will be the main target and he should get 65+ catches along with 800+ yards he should lead in td catches againg with about 8 or more
cutler should be in the middle of the pack because he is no longer in a pass heavy offense
I hope it's right
… because I’ve got Adrian Peterson AND i just traded Steve Slaton and a 2010 first round pick for Forte.
I’m all in to win. I think he’s going to tear things up this year.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
I personally would've kept Slaton and the pick
Only b/c I think Slaton will kill it this year being the featured back for a full season. I can’t argue with your decision though b/c Forte is a beast. What’s your scoring system like?
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With that said
I’m obviously keeping Forte and AP, but if you were me would you also keep Slaton or Warner? We do have a “flex.”
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Keep Slaton for sure
He’s a late-1st early 2nd rounder right now. If he’s the 3rd guy you’re keeping it’s a no-brainer.
by Mike Mueller on May 15, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Top 2 RBs
I got Forte and AP in my keeper league; not a bad tandum to have at the most important position in fantasy.
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Hester
Most likely, he’ll end up being a steal in fantasy this year. This upcoming season will be his coming out party as a WR.
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Forte is a fantasy Stud
I have Forte at #1 – why not ? AP was almost irrelevant in fantasy football last year, and I’ll take the potential slight drop-off potential in Forte’s points because he’s not a BiQueen. AP will face better defenses this year, perhaps, with the additions to their divisional rivals defenses. Forte had eight men in the box against him all year and was a marvelous rusher and still managed to catch 63 passes – as a rookie ! With the arrival of Cutler, Pace, Shaffer, Gaines and Omiygale, the opposing defenses have got to respect the pass game. Cutler fakes to Forte and then launches downfield to Hester has got to be respected. MFs statistics can only go up, all things being equal. MJD is also a monster, runs and catches. Turner doesn’t catch the ball but is a rushing monster. DeAngelo shares his backfield with another monster, as does Chris Johnson who watched LenDale White run 15 through the plane last season . Steven Jackson ? Pretty hair. Brian “Ouch, my hamstring. Oh no, my leg.” Westbrook ? Please. Draft Forte, Kevin Smith, grab Lendale in the later rounds and then take a runner on Mendenhall, Sproles or Jamaal Charles and hope for breakdowns/injuries. Fantasy happiness. If you take Cutler in 5 or 6 then you can draft Wayne/Colston/Bowe as your receivers etc. Let’s not forget Hester and Bennett – who do you guys like between them, or will the ball get spread around and run so much that Bears’ receivers aren’t worth drafting ?
by Irish Bears Fan on May 14, 2009 11:45 PM CDT reply actions
Olsen and Hester are the only two I'd take
Other than Forte, possibly Cutler as a number two. I’d definitely grab Iglesias or Bennett if either contribute a decentt amount within the first game or two.
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Too many receivers !
Here’s the Bears problem re FF – we have too many receivers. I like Hester this year for a couple more TDs with the potential for quite a few. He finally has a gunslinger under center, he’ll have to prove his speed now, he ain’t in there for his looks. But I like Bennett for a breakout because he has history with Cutler, the important and good kind. AND I like Iglesias as a sleeper for his skills and size. Throw Forte, Olsen and Dez in the mix – shit, Cutler will blow a fuse with so many guys open he’ll wish he had six footballs and six arms. I don’t see one single target taking over for the Bears, we’ve become so balanced it’s actually a beautiful thing. Now we don’t have to be frightened of getting to the Superbowl only to get bashed. Now we know we have one of the best teams in the NFL right now. And there isn’t anybody head and shoulders above us. Nobody. Let’s see Pittsburgh go and do that again this year and I will kneel before them and hail the Steelers. In the NFC I see opposition, yes. But in the post-season ( and-there-ain’t-no-way-we’re-not-reachin-the-farkin playoffs), yes people, in the post season, there will be battles. And with our scrambling QB, stud RB, and (hopefully) improved DST … we will knock the cold bloody snot out of any Giant/Saint/Eagle that has to pass through the windy city in January. Sorry Cowboys, you can hang out on the beach with your bum friends. In 2009, new heroes will be made in Chicago, with new names. And perhaps some young faces ?
Go Bears.
by Irish Bears Fan on May 15, 2009 2:07 AM CDT up reply actions
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