The Bears Den - 5/20/09
....where we're looking forward to the Michael Vick rumors.
In The Den
ChicagoBears.com
The Bears are still confident in Caleb Hanie. Jerry's classic line? "We like Caleb."
Chicago Sun Times
Ruben Brown is back in Chicago on a charity motorcycle ride.
Ruben Brown also thinks that Orlando Pace will return to his dominant form.
The Bears have $20.8 million in cap space.
A little more info on the Michael Gaines contract.
Chicago Tribune
Nice story by Vaughn McClure about Jason McKie giving back to the deployed US soldiers.
ESPN Chicago
The Bears have had a lot of success against Favre, and here are some Bears who are probably looking forward to seeing him as a Viking in 2009.
The funniest story of The Den is right here: Rex Grossman will be trying out in front of some UFL coaches in the coming weeks.
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Poor Rexy
Thats great, he probly lose them a championship too.
LET's GO BEAR's
by LasVegasBearsFan on May 20, 2009 12:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh Rex, how the mighty have fallen
Would anyone, even after the benching in ‘07 have put Rex in the UFL? I really thought he could be a serviceable back up. He isn’t terrible, just inconsistent, you could probably say that about half the back-ups in the league!!
I guess if he does well there will be a former Bear succeeding in both the CFL and UFL.
by GallopingGhost on May 20, 2009 1:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and to think...
four games into that season, they(espn/nfl network) had him crowned MVP!!!
by windycity72 on May 20, 2009 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just thought i'd add fuel to the fire...
here’s a little oldie but a goodie in my file that makes me have to laugh to keep from crying in regards to him…
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1515812/rex_grossman_finished_as_chicago_bears.html
by windycity72 on May 20, 2009 1:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rex could probably be the star of the league...
Seriously. I mean, look at the competition.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on May 20, 2009 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still think that with a solid OLine
and a good QBs coach, Rex could still be productive on an NFL level. The stars have to align just right though…
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by Dane Noble on May 20, 2009 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You care to provide something productive on the topic?
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by Dane Noble on May 20, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grossman=Tommy Maddox redux?
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on May 20, 2009 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I definitely agree.
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
by HoneyBear on May 20, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rex needs a break
to just wipe the slate clean and start over. Never had the coaching necessary to develop and grow with the Bears.
by rocko1 on May 20, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rex Needs to stop taking Ambien before games
why the hell would you take sleeping pills before games?
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on May 20, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never heard that aboot him,
but for some people, sleeping meds have a reverse-effect.
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by Dane Noble on May 20, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From his play on the field
It looked like the Intentional effect worked on him.
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on May 20, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I watch this past weekend
the replay game of the Bears/Titans game and he went out in his first start of the season against the best defense at that time in football, and had an impressive drive and threw a TD. The Bears lost 21-14 in that game. Orton rushes back too soon the next week and we get are doors blown off by Green Bay and the rest is history. I wonder what would have happened if the Bears would’ve beaten the Titans. Would Rex have remained the QB? I’m shocked a team like Minnesota who’s one decent QB whose great at playaction away from a Superbowl, wouldn’t have given Rex a harder look. Or a team like San Fran with those wideouts and Gore. I’m suprised.
by Dils on May 20, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hi Dils!
I see you’re still not over Sexy Rex!
by rocko1 on May 20, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!!
Yeah i’m still here carrying on the fight. I refuse to let people dog this kid anymore. He’s gone now, let’s just love him for what he did do. But believe me, I’m in FULL CUTLER MODE now!
by Dils on May 20, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm getting with the program too!
Cutler is my guy, but I still am a fan of Orton.
by rocko1 on May 20, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I visit
the Broncos site a lot to see what they are talking about. They drink the Kool-aid heavy over there over Orton. You gotta stop letting those guys think they got the better of this trade. They think they got Bernie Kosar over there. lol
by Dils on May 20, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The trade is done.
I have accepted it. I still believe that Denver came out ahead, but there’s a lot to like about Cutler. Now Angelo needs to get off his rear end and support him. Only the very best receivers, coaches, etc. will do! Go Bears!
by rocko1 on May 20, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not for beating a dead horse either...
Yeah i’m still here carrying on the fight. I refuse to let people dog this kid anymore. He’s gone now, let’s just love him for what he did do.
But Rex has already joined the long list of dissapointing Bears QB’s and therefore is subject to being dogged. I for one am glad that chapter is closed.
And i never have nor never will Love Rex.
by Chitownproduct on May 21, 2009 2:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll never understand Rex getting beat up the way he did in this town..
After Cade Mcnown, Rick Mirer,and Johnathan Quinn I’ll never get it. The kid came back from 2 big injuries that may have had something to do with his lack of mobility,(He did rip his knee trying to RUN into the endzone in Minnesota), fought back and manage to QB a team to a Superbowl and yet people hate him. But love the guy who partied in the early on and didn’t get serious about football to year 3 of his career, who never played in a playoff game. The poor guy hurts his ankle and is treated like Willis Reed and a hero because he came back too soon? I still don’t get it. It’s not like anyone in this town has any experience watching a good QB grow to know what they are talking about anyway.
Fact is Chicago fans are like just like that. We love who we love and Love to hate who we hate. Meatheads say Rex sucks, and next thing you know the guy is getting booed on the practice field…The PRACTICE field! There’s nothing smart or reasonable about that. The same way guys like Mark Grace, Paul Konerko and Lou Pinella can do no wrong while guys like Ben Gordon, Alphonso Soriano, and Rex Grossman are beat up despite what they do on the field or court. It’s just the Chicago meathead way.
by Dils on May 21, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A measure of Angelo's skillset
The Rex Grossman saga shows just how far off Angelo is in the evaluation, drafting and development of offensive talent. To not only believe that Grossman was worthy of a 1st round pick, but to stubbornly refuse to admit you were wrong for five years is inexcusable. It cost us a SB title Jerry!
by rocko1 on May 20, 2009 1:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hanie is not the insurance policy we need
Dear Jerry:
In 2005, you made the mistake of not having a legitimate backup QB. Yes, I’m refering to the great Chad Hutchinson. This time the stakes will be much higher. The team will be one play away from losing Cutler due to injury. Calib Hanie has zero NFL experience. Spend the money and get a veteran QB to backup Cutler.
by rocko1 on May 20, 2009 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What veteran is available at this time
That would be better at our system than Hanie.
by luckie815 on May 20, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Griese and Green to name a few with experience
Mty pick would be Brian Griese. Head and shoulders above Hanie in experience. Just imagine the season being on the line and having to rely on a unproven QB.
by rocko1 on May 20, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our young players
are never going to develop if we keep playing run down vets.
by luckie815 on May 20, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both have zero future with the Bears
This is about having a Plan B, in the event of an injury, that would give us a chance to continue to wins games. A veteran could also help Cutler improve.
by rocko1 on May 20, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
He played very well last preaseason, albeit against 2nd and 3rd string Defenses. But the benefit is he has a 2 year knowledge of the system, and there is limited game film on him. So if Cutler needed to be out for a couple of games, it would be hard for opposing D’s to know exactly what they had to gameplan for.
As for Basenez, I am not 100% sure of what we have, but Carolina seemed very interested in keeping him as a back up for Delhome, so he can’t be horribly bad.
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on May 20, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s also considered to have similar characteristics to Cutler so, should he fill in, they wouldn’t need to alter the offense too much.
by Spongie on May 20, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Similar to Cutler?
Not a chance of that.
by rocko1 on May 20, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My bad, remembered it slightly wrong, just the one characteristic (can buy time for the play to develop). Biggs’ verdict:
The thing that makes Hanie attractive is his skill set probably more closely mirrors Cutler than it did Orton. We’re not suggesting Hanie has the kind of arm Cutler does, but Hanie can move around and keep plays alive. He showed a real knack for creating with his feet when given the opportunity in preseason last year. He wasn’t running around out of control, he was buying time to make plays downfield. That’s the one thing that really set him apart and ultimately convinced the Bears to use a spot on the 53-man roster for him when it looked like he was ticketed for the practice squad. Hanie made plays.
by Spongie on May 20, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A veteran
QB as a backup will give the team the best chance to win. A player who has been there before. A player who can lead the troops through a crisis. A veteran with playoff experience. a veteran that will instill confidence in the team. Hanie would be my choise for the 3rd QB. Imo, the Bears shouldn’t screw around here. Sign the best possible backup Qb in case our new “franchise QB” gets injured. Bears’ starting QBs have missed games in 11 out of the past 12 years.
by rocko1 on May 20, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is an awesome discussion to be having
that revolves around who should back-up our Pro Bowl QB.
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by Dane Noble on May 20, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ahh....
the finer things in life!!!
by windycity72 on May 20, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unchartered territory!
For the fans and the Bears’ coaching staff/GM. Like buying that first thoroughbred racehorse!
by rocko1 on May 20, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like throwing meat to the lions
In having to rely on Hanie in a meaningful game against a 1st string defense. He would get eatin alive. Are you Jerry Angelo?
by rocko1 on May 20, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope,
But I’d be happy to take his job if it becomes open :-)
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on May 20, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Many great teams
have had their seasons saved by veteran backups. The 72 Dolphins anyone?
by rocko1 on May 20, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hell...
jeff garcia does it EVERYWHERE he goes…
by windycity72 on May 20, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Garcia was a great pickup
by the Raiders. He’ll be a great backup and mentor to Russell.
by rocko1 on May 20, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
I am a big Russell supporter (surprise), but he is in a system that is wasting years off of his career. But I’d bet too that Garcia eventually starts.
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by Dane Noble on May 20, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it always makes my day...
when you agree with me!!!
by windycity72 on May 20, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LoL!
He’s better than the kid, but that will accomplish very little imo. Oaklands not going anywhere real soon. It will probably take two to three years of playing before LaMarcus develops. Garcia could get paid nicely and give a little back.
by rocko1 on May 20, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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