The Bears Den - 5/28/09
by ChiFan13 on May 28, 2009 12:00 AM CDT
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....where the Bears coverage is so tight, it makes the McCaskey’s wallet jealous.
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If you follow this link, you can send in questions for Lovie to answer. Also, if one of you poses a question that results in an answer of "Rashied Davis is a Chicago Bear," I will send you $20. No joke.
Chicago Sun Times
Brad Biggs reports on the Pisa Tinoisamoa story (Pisa is now known as LTP for WCG's ease).
LTP looks to be going to either the Bills or the Bears.
Chicago Tribune
As we discussed all day yesterday, it seems as though the Bears are closer to LTP.
Are you a big fan of Matt Jones? No? Well, you'll be happy: Jerry didn't sound too interested in the booger-sugared WR.
ESPN Chicago
Jeff Dickerson reports on the ESPN power rankings.
Read this one for a good laugh: Carson Palmer sticks up for Cedric Benson.
A third team has expressed interest in Plaxico Burress, according to Drew Rosenhaus. Let's hope the Bears aren't one of those three.
Examiner.com
Jay Cutler has been wowing both Bears fans and media types. Normally, this would be worthy of a "duh," but this is a big day. Imagine a QB who really isn't questioned by the media as a liability....
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Hey Llama how 'bout something for the effort?
I know my tagline isn’t the earthshaking, but a little recognition wouldn’t hurt :-)
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on May 28, 2009 12:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You get no love....
And you’ll like it!
When I played I was a triple threat.... Stumble.... Fumble.....Grumble....
"Marcus Harrison iz in ur Backfield sackin ur Quataback!"
by scespy12 on May 28, 2009 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey I didn't know
My wife posted on this site too :-)
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on May 28, 2009 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I told ya fella
I’m going to post all of em throughout the next couple weeks.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
by ChiFan13 on May 28, 2009 4:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
alright...
I just wanted a little recognition…is that so wrong :-)
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on May 28, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell no
The preceding one-liner was brought to you by WisBearsFan34!
That good? :)
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
by ChiFan13 on May 28, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fantastic...
I’d like to thank all the little people who made this posible…
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on May 28, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
here is my email i sent
Hey Lovie,
It’s apparent that one of the Bears’ weaknesses is wide receiver. What are your guys’ plans to upgrade the stable of receivers that we have? Can you guys seriously consider cutting or trading the butterfingered receiver Rashied Davis? He won’t catch Jay’s rocket passes even if it hit him right in the numbers, and we don’t need that…obviously.
Much love from many Bears fans who share the same beliefs as I do,
Rick May
by MAY on May 28, 2009 1:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if he would answer this one?!?
Dear Lovie -
With his amazing hands and clutch past performances, I would love to see Rashied Davis as the #1WR for the Bears this year.
By ‘amazing,’ I really mean ‘terrible.’ By ‘clutch,’ I mean ‘shady.’ By ‘as the #1WR,’ I mean ‘warm the bench.’ And by ‘Bears,’ I mean ‘another team.’ Thoughts?
Sincerely,
Rashied Davis fan
- By ‘fan’ I mean ’couldn’t catch a cold’
- Smudgers
I'm gonna come at you like a spider monkey!
by smudgers on May 28, 2009 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Thanks! My very first Wreck - you just popped my Wreck cherry!
Wait, did I say that outloud?
- Smudgers
I'm gonna come at you like a spider monkey!
by smudgers on May 28, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh ya hilarious stuff
you get another wreck sir,
can i hear 1 mo fo green.
by Chitownproduct on May 28, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Done and Done
When I played I was a triple threat.... Stumble.... Fumble.....Grumble....
"Marcus Harrison iz in ur Backfield sackin ur Quataback!"
by scespy12 on May 28, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the engreenination.
Does it make me a loser to say that this was the highlight of my work day?
- Smudgers
I'm gonna come at you like a spider monkey!
by smudgers on May 28, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Dickerson article
about Palmer taking up for Benson, HILARIOUS!!!
by rdent4hof on May 28, 2009 7:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wait a sec...
“First off, Palmer is obviously a terrific teammate, who understands the value of supporting the other 52 players in the locker room.”
isn’t this the same guy that just shredded “OH NO STINKO”???
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on May 28, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw that Palmer article
Last night. No doubting Palmer’s ability as a PR man for his teammates. Was that his major in college? He’s really good about spinning everything. But Benson and good teammate? Hilarious.
by GallopingGhost on May 28, 2009 7:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There are a lot of people on this site who are trying to make a case for Matt Jones to come to the Bears,
saying a change of scenery could clean up his act, yet everyone seems to think that couldn’t possibly happen to Benson. Jones has had character issues since high school according to the research that was shown on the other post, where Benson, if memory serves, had a pretty good work ethic reputation coming out of school. It’s also my personal opinion that whiny, cry-baby, clubhouse lawyer, Thomas Jones, had a lot to do with the “reputation” that Benson had here. Doesn’t seem fair.
Again, it comes down to the attitude that any player who isn’t wanted by their own team, HAS to be great if he comes to the Bears, yet anyone we’ve cast off (and I’m not saying that we weren’t completely justified in ending the experiment with Benson) just can’t be any good ever again. I admire Palmer for having his teammate’s back.
by BearFan611 on May 28, 2009 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Benson can change, I agree.
Matt Jones can change. Thomas Jones can change.
“If I can change and you can change, EVERYBODY CAN CHANGE!!!”
by rdent4hof on May 28, 2009 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
The guy's a druggie... and he's not gonna change.
How many arrests/DUIs does it take?
We don’t need a moron druggie in our locker room… he’ll be looking for a sidekick to hang out with, and infect someone else.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on May 28, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many times
has he been arrested? The last charge was for having two beers on the golf course.
by luckie815 on May 28, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This guy has been in jail twice.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on May 28, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
once for the coke arrest
once for violating the agreement.
so in essence, he’s been arrested twice for one incident.
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on May 28, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
The guy’s been arrested twice for two different drug incidents.
1. For doing lines off the dashboard of his car.
2. For testing positive for drugs several months after the dashboard incident, as a violation.
So… that would be two different incidents, now wouldn’t it? Don’t try to downplay it.
He didn’t learn the first time, and I bet he won’t learn from the second time. The guy’s a d-bag who never performed like a real #1 WR anyway… and you guys wanna give him a contract with a signing bonus, so he can come to Chicago with more money to party with?
Shmucks.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on May 28, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have been called a lot of names
but that’s a new one. Hope your having a good day now.
by luckie815 on May 28, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no. he was arrested the second time around for violating his plea agreement when they found alcohol in his system.
This isn’t like pacman or Vick, who never learn their lesson. He made one bad decision and should at the very least get a second chance before getting written off.
I didn’t know you were Jewish, Sack.
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on May 28, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This guys record
dosen’t even compare to some of the real problem kids. I don’t know why your so down on a guy with one strike. There are a lot of guys with much bigger problems than him. If you want to get on your high horse and straighten out the NFL pick on the guys with bigger problems.
by luckie815 on May 28, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its win-win for JA
Jerry can sign him for a 1-2 year contract that has a small gauranteed base with a truckload of incentives for proformance on the field and off.
If Jones works out JA looks like a Genius because:
-He gives wunderkin Jay Cutler a new weapon.
-He finds a diamond in the rough for little investment, making him look smarter than other GM’s(which is one of JA’s biggest narsacistic traits)
-He gives the fanbase a renewed sense of him doing “anything to win”
-He gives the sportswriters ammunition for the feel good story of the season “Jones and his trip north for redemption”…etc, etc.
If Jones doesn’t work out JA looks like a Genius because:
-He tries to get Culter the best available option that was available.
-He doestn’t mortgage the franchise to get him.
-He falls back on the “Matt seemed like a good kid who needed a 2nd chance” bandwagon to gain sympathy for the move.
-He can use Jones as an example to the other receivers to “keep their noses clean” otherwise even with talent you will not have a place on this team.
The only problem I can see is that Jones is brought in and somehow turns into a mini-TO and causes a variety of Lockeroom distractions. I have not heard of any examples of this type of behavior from the Jags, but who knows…
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on May 28, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said above...
He’s a d-bag. And football isn’t his top priority in life… getting high is.
Like Buddy Ryan used to say: “Dumb players will get you beat.”
And as I’m about to say, “When you piss away millions of dollars, because you’d rather get high… then you’re a major dumbass.”
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on May 28, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And to add to this train of thought...
Regardless of whether he has learned his lesson, as I have stated before, we have a ton of new faces on our offense this season.
We will experience natural growing pains from that alone… would we want someone in our starting lineup that our coaches and players could not trust explicitly? They have to be able to trust each other 100%, that day in and day out they are all 100% commited to the team and the team’s direction.
Regardless of whether Jones will learn from all of this and become a more responsible human being, he would not be trusted if we signed him. And that alone should dissuade anyone from wanting the Bears to add him to the roster.
Be nice. Flag comments that you think are offensive. Use the "reply" button. Drink plenty of water. Compliment others. Rec comments and posts you like. Don't call people names. If you don't like someone's comment, attack the comment and not the commentor. Learn the difference in your/you're, then/than, to/too. Exercise. Relax. Stretch often. Find good in the world.
by Dane Noble on May 28, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They would find out in camp
if they could jell. If not send him walking.
by luckie815 on May 28, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course he wouldn't be trusted right off the bat. Show me a player who has been the history of the NFL that's been given that much leeway.
The Vikings had to trust Chris Carter when they signed him and Jared Allen when they traded for him
The Patriots had to trust Randy Moss when they traded for him.
The Browns had to trust Jamal Lewis when they signed him.
Parcells had to trust Ricky Williams when he kept him on the Dolphins.
But all of those guys had to earn the trust and respect of their team. That goes for Cutler, Pace, and the rookies as well. So what one more new face joining the team?
Of course you have the Pacman’s and T.O.s of the world, but I’m pretty sure that’s not Matt Jones.
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on May 28, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course he wouldn't be trusted right off the bat. Show me a player who has been the history of the NFL that's been given that much leeway.
The Vikings had to trust Chris Carter when they signed him and Jared Allen when they traded for him
The Patriots had to trust Randy Moss when they traded for him.
The Browns had to trust Jamal Lewis when they signed him.
Parcells had to trust Ricky Williams when he kept him on the Dolphins.
But all of those guys had to
earnthe trust and respect of their team. That goes for Cutler, Pace, and the rookies as well. So what one more new face joining the team?
Of course you have the Pacman’s and T.O.s of the world, but I’m pretty sure that’s not Matt Jones.
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on May 28, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand that,
in both boxquotes and iltalics. My point is that we already have so many changes in our offense, that we need as much stability and trust as possible.
We are not going to be stable right off the bat offensively. No need to add someone who could possible rock the boat even more.
Be nice. Flag comments that you think are offensive. Use the "reply" button. Drink plenty of water. Compliment others. Rec comments and posts you like. Don't call people names. If you don't like someone's comment, attack the comment and not the commentor. Learn the difference in your/you're, then/than, to/too. Exercise. Relax. Stretch often. Find good in the world.
by Dane Noble on May 28, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we took that chance when we traded for cutler(allegedly)
it’s a matter of risk vs. reward. and in the case of the above teams, the risk was little and the reward was great.
and seeing that we have no experience at WR besides question marks in Hester and Davis, it’s a risk Angelo should be willing to take.
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on May 28, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As I recall, Buddy Ryan released Chris Carter due to his drug usage. How'd that work out for him?
by BigGeorgeTX on May 28, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Buddy Ryan never released Chris Carter
Carter very possibly could’ve been found dead, face down in a pile of white nose powder. Carter credits Ryan for helping to turn his life around because of that.
I’d say it worked out fine for both of them.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on May 28, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Jones
Worth a shot.
I’m a man. I can change. If I have to. I guess. – Red Green
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
by phastphil on May 28, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Benson sucked
plain and simple. you want to advocate for him fine. still doesn’t change the fact the guy chumped out in the SB and seemed to fall down every time he carried the ball. Matt Jones is a coke head. Benson’s just a loser.
by junkhorse on May 28, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You totally missed my point
I wasn’t advocating Benson as much as I was questioning why we don’t look at things equally.
by BearFan611 on May 28, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think it's unequal
to compare a baby vs a guy with a drug problem. Benson was a manchild from Day 1 in a Bears uniform. He held out. He didn’t want to compete with TJ. He disrespected teammates. He fumbled. Matt Jones just likes blow. Still puts up good numbers, still a good teammate, just can’t stay out of trouble.
by junkhorse on May 28, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So not being able to stay out of trouble
and not being around to be counted on is a “good teammate”?????
by BearFan611 on May 28, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cincinnati Bengals are a cesspool of a team
I actually feel sorry for Carson Palmer having to be surrounded by all those thugs and no-goods on that team. Marvin Lewis is also a piece of work.
Awww, come on guys, it's so simple maybe you need a refresher course. It's all ball bearings ...
by BLou on May 28, 2009 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Call me crazy,
I think the ben-gals finish second in the division this year.
by rdent4hof on May 28, 2009 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crazy
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on May 28, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
steelers 1st obviously,
ravens lost Bart Scott, Jim Leonard, and Coach Ryan (massive loss).
brown’s are just beatable.
But what do I know, I’m crazy
by rdent4hof on May 28, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even with the Raven's losses
I just can’t see the Bengals doing better than them. You would have to think the Bengals got a LOT better and that the Ravens got a LOT worse.
!
by Qgee on May 28, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No more TJ... one of the only stand-up citizens in Thug Central
Plus, a previously bad O-line that lost both of their starting Tackles (Levi Jones and Stacy Andrews), and drafted the dumbass who walked out of the combine (Andre Smith) as a replacement.
And, while Palmer is dumbfoundingly singing praises for Cedric Benson, he’s also taking shots at his prima-donna #1 WR, Ocho Cinco.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on May 28, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Raven defenders
They lose LBs just about every year, and it always seems to work out fine.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack." - Sun Tzu
by propheteer on May 28, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a LOT,
just a little better and a little worse. IMO, that is enough in The NFL
by rdent4hof on May 28, 2009 10:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
After all the talk of Tinoisamoa, and Ta'ufo'ou before him...
…may I humbly suggest a possible one-liner of: “…where we actively campaign to have the hardest-to-spell roster in the NFL” ?
"They tried to take out the quarterback, and if they managed that, they tried to take out the backup." - Bears SB20 TE Emery Moorehead, on the mentality of *that* defense
by Spongie on May 28, 2009 11:44 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Nice
Is that on the Island of “Cumon Iwana Goto Vandy”
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on May 28, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You caught on quick
now your goina get ifuwanna going!
by luckie815 on May 28, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
more like the island of
lon hun cok.
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on May 28, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
I have a nice one set for tomorrow, but that one will appear in the Weekend Den.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
by ChiFan13 on May 28, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lovie Smith:
“Rashied “Dropapotamous” Davis is our receiver."
by Pretender85 on May 28, 2009 4:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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