NightLink II: Bears Sign Pisa Tinoisamoa
by Dane Noble on May 29, 2009 4:58 PM CDT
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Today, the Chicago Bears came to terms with Pisa Tinoisamoa. He signed a 1-year contract, and is expected to be the starting strong side linebacker in front of Nick Roach and Hunter Hillenmeyer.
Said Jerry Angelo:
``We built this team many different ways,'' Angelo said. ``We've done it through the draft, we've done it through the free agency system, we've done it through trades. When you look at our roster over my tenure here, we probably have done it every which way you can do it. We really have. There are some teams that really abide by the draft. There are some teams that really look at free agency. I think we have had a good mesh of both in how we've done this and in a sound way.''
Sounds good to me. Angelo has made more moves this offseason than any year I can remember... now the pressure is on the coaches to make things happen with the talent they have.
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They're BUSY today!
I hope he works out for us – he seems like a steal. Anyone know how much cap space we have left after this week and projected signing costs of our three remaining rookies? Enough to get a WR, or are we mostly done?
by DisCUBbobulated on May 29, 2009 5:02 PM CDT reply actions
I'm guessing they might want to hold on to some
for a new contract for Cutler. My guess is that they’ll somewhere between $12-14mil in cap space after getting all the rookies signed.
by Steve Ronkowski on May 29, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Good point.
Maybe the real reason they don’t go after Boldin – Who will almost immediately want a new long-term expensive deal.
by DisCUBbobulated on May 29, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Very possible...
anyone think that they really do have some faith in our receivers and what JC will be able to bring out of them? I’d like to give it a year, personally. Even though so many fans are hungry for the trophy, I’m fairly happy that the front office seems to be focusing on the long-term here, as opposed to a quick fix. Cutler might take a year to fully adjust. Hester might turn beast and have an amazing season. Plus, because of all of the options, I don’t think our offense needs a high-priced #1.
by ChiTown2ShineIn'09 on May 29, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Not sure
if that’s entirely true. It was reported that Pisa will play 1st and 2nd downs; it doesn’t seem like he’s good in pass coverage. Anyone know if he normally came out on 3rd downs?
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack." - Sun Tzu
I would think that he's good in pass coverage
if they tried to play him as a safety in the past. Small and quick.
by Steve Ronkowski on May 29, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
That isn't reflective of his play
It’s just that most teams go to the nickel D on third down. In the nickel D, one LB leaves and is replaced by a DB. Urlacher and Briggs aren’t going to be the ones coming off the field given their salary, stature, and talent, so Pisa would be the odd man out.
DEJESUS!!!
Dude hes from the Rams!!
if they didnt want him… well….. i wouldnt be to excited about this pick up
Your logic is infallible
He’s led their team in tackles for 4 of the 6 seasons he’s been there, including his rookie year. Ergo, he must suck.
"They tried to take out the quarterback, and if they managed that, they tried to take out the backup." - Bears SB20 TE Emery Moorehead, on the mentality of *that* defense
Uh?
When you play defense for the Rams, you get Lot’s and Lot’s of opportunities to make tackles, so let’s not get too pumped here by Ram Numbers.
We have camp to see if he can handle Forte. A reasonable test for a SAM.
by pete banachi on May 29, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Does he not have an established NFL career?
so how can you say that we obviously haven’t seen him play??
as ThorCo so eloquently states below, he was released due to not fitting into a system… has nothing to do with his talent…
by ChiTown2ShineIn'09 on May 30, 2009 1:27 AM CDT up reply actions
When you play defense for the Rams, you get Lot’s and Lot’s of opportunities to make tackles, so let’s not get too pumped here by Ram Numbers.
Let’s try this again:
He was their top tackler for 4 of the 6 seasons he was there.
Think about it.
If you really need me to spell it out for you, just ask.
"They tried to take out the quarterback, and if they managed that, they tried to take out the backup." - Bears SB20 TE Emery Moorehead, on the mentality of *that* defense
Think!
In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is King :)
by pete banachi on May 30, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Elvis was the King
Ahuhuh, thankyreverr’much!
"They tried to take out the quarterback, and if they managed that, they tried to take out the backup." - Bears SB20 TE Emery Moorehead, on the mentality of *that* defense
Are you aware
that they didn’t want him because he is too small for their new defensive system, not because he is bad. Certain players are not meant for certain schemes, this is another example of that.
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
Wasn't he the best defensive player the last few years for the Rams...
If so, does this make our LB core the most talented 4-3 LB group in the league?
regardless of the nay-sayers...
yes… it does!!!
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
well, isn't that special...
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on May 30, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
It certainly makes us more solid.
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Corps, not core. Probably one of the most talented starting 4-3 LB trios, anyway.
"They tried to take out the quarterback, and if they managed that, they tried to take out the backup." - Bears SB20 TE Emery Moorehead, on the mentality of *that* defense
I was half-asleep when I wrote that, and woke up this morning in a panic because I thought I’d left the “s” off “corps”. Gaaah!
Having thought about it a bit more, I’m fully with you on this one. Our LBs are going to be gods. Gods!
"They tried to take out the quarterback, and if they managed that, they tried to take out the backup." - Bears SB20 TE Emery Moorehead, on the mentality of *that* defense
Yep
It didn’t hit me until a little bit ago but Briggs, Urlacher and Tinoisamoa sound like a pretty nasty trio.
Rumor has it Alex Brown keeps Chris Simms' right index finger in his back pocket for good luck.
Long Live Pisa
I’m pretty sure this signing gives us the best 3 linebackers working together in a 4-3 in the league, and our depth looks outstanding as well.
If 0 and 16 can do ANYTHING with our D-line, we’ll be hard to stop.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
from Mike Florio of PFT
Per the report, Tinoisamoa is projected to play on first and second downs for the Bears.
Is this a good thing or a bad thing? I’ve never heard of a two down Linebacker
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on May 29, 2009 6:24 PM CDT reply actions
he'll be on the field a good portion of the time...
so that’s a good thing… by their est. something like 63% of the time, which is interesting cuz……… weren’t we in the nickel about that much last year???
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
The Bears play nickel exclusively on third downs?
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on May 29, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
when its an obvious passing situation
they pull the Sam and put in Manning. Hillenmeyer and Roach were both never on the field for passing third downs.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
that's because they were shit in coverage
Pisa is good at backpedaling, and his quickness to get to the QB can be an asset on third down passing situations when pressuring the QB.
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on May 29, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
but he's still out on the nickel...
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
Yeah, I know that part
but still, If he’s only going to be in on plays for only first and second downs, what if they choose to go 4-3 on third down?
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on May 29, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions
then he'll play
they’ll only pull him for passing third downs when they’re running the nickel.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
They didn't always play nickel on third downs
They used to leave Hunter in when it was less than, say third and 5. It seems like last year they lost all confidence in anything but the nickel on third down. Maybe they were just trying to get Manning (“The project”) on the field so he wouldn’t lose his sense of confusion as to what position he plays. Or maybe Babich is as big a moron (sorry that’s harsh let’s go with “clueless buffoon”) as I think he is. Ever look at the guys credentials before Lovie stepped in to his life? I’m confident there are some Texas high school coaches with much better pedigrees.
"Like a young contortionist, for the first time coming into his own...." -Bert Sugar
I think they lose all confidence in HH...
He really looked like he took a step back this year, and as a player people always kinda viewed as good to average, taking a step back while playing next to players like Briggs and Urlacher really looks worse than it may be.
Sounds good
to me… I think that “long dog” – the 4th commenter on said article – brought up an odd, yet intriguing idea. He suggests moving Briggs to the Mike position, open competition for the outside, and, get this, moving Urlacher to FS. I’d love to hear some comments…
by ChiTown2ShineIn'09 on May 29, 2009 6:28 PM CDT reply actions
um...no
Urlacher at FS? Huh? He’s fast for a LB, but he doesn’t have the speed to be a FS. Not to mention it doesn’t really make sense to have a guy try to learn a brand new position at his age.
he's really not learning a new postion(college)...
but i don’t see it happening.
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
Like Windycity72
I don’t see it happening. Personally I think he would be a beast at FS.
He would have to drop 10-15 lbs, but that would just make him faster and he would still be one of the biggest if not the biggest FS in the league. He played the position in college as well as being the punt returner.
I think not having to shed the blocking linemen would add a few years to his career. Plus every opposing WR trying to catch a pass between the hashes our close to them would have to think twice. It wouldn’t be 198lb Manning or Payne about to hit them, It would be a very lean, guess about 148lb, Urlacher commin at them. He would still be able to cheat up for run support and Safety Blitzes.
I know what you meant to say
but I’m kinda getting a kick out of picturing a 148 lb safety. Hell a 148 lb kicker would be HILARIOUS!
"Like a young contortionist, for the first time coming into his own...." -Bert Sugar
by Just Dave on May 29, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
But true, a 148 lb
anything on the field would be hilarious. It would be like rooting for Rudy or maybe even Garrett Wolf.
Shame on you!
Garret Wolfe weighs at least 166. However a 148 Urlacher would be like having the young Ur on the Old Spice commercials “challenging you to a du-ell” playing at safety. It would make a great SNL skit.
"Like a young contortionist, for the first time coming into his own...." -Bert Sugar
by Just Dave on May 29, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Didn't you see
any of the hits Wolfe laid on kick and punt coverage…the boy is a beast!! Gotta give love to a guy who is the same height and weight as I do!!
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
Definitely a beast...
but I was thinking that maybe being the biggest FS wouldn’t necessarily be the best thing. I’m not the most technically/strategically savvy person here, but if I’m not mistaken, the FS tends to play a little bit deeper, and I don’t know that he could cover a deep ball the way he can cover passes over the middle. And, I know he plays all over the field, but wouldn’t playing FS require him to generally cover more ground? If that’s the case, I think that would be a problem too… BUT, he did play the position in college…
Regardless, I think it’s a fun thing to discuss, and a funny thing to picture…
by ChiTown2ShineIn'09 on May 29, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
One Question?
Are you smoking “Store Boughts”???
by pete banachi on May 29, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
IDK
is that like a left-handed cigarette?
by ChiTown2ShineIn'09 on May 30, 2009 1:28 AM CDT up reply actions
So Blou...
Still think he’s playing safety?
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on May 29, 2009 6:55 PM CDT reply actions
oh the agony
Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Beer in one hand - brat in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride
Jees... He spends as much time here as the Cubs Blog?
This BLOU guy is probably the most talked-about sports blogger in chicago, and, by extension, on the planet. I keep meaning to reply to one of his posts, but every time finding myself scrolling down for some reason (and that usually takes awhile).
by DisCUBbobulated on May 29, 2009 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions
LMAO
yeah, that’s him alright.
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on May 29, 2009 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
This is pretty much the most highly anticipated
Bears season that I can ever remember in my 23 years. I wish I could hibernate until
mid-August.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on May 29, 2009 9:27 PM CDT reply actions
Farnsworth: "... It doesn't even have a device to speed and slow the passage of time!"
Fry (pulls bong from under seat): “Oh, here it is!”
by ChiTown2ShineIn'09 on May 29, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
There is no speed involved when you pull out the bong.
I was experiencing that when I wrote that first post. And when I first realized how freaky your picture is.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on May 29, 2009 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions
HA!
that’s actually a quote from Futurama, not sure if you got it or not…
and that pic was taken last year at the Carolina game… I almost got into a fight…
by ChiTown2ShineIn'09 on May 30, 2009 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions
was anticipated?
I don’t really remember that off season being productive enough to create the buzz that has occurred this off season… by all means, correct me if I’m wrong, I’d love to be reminded of what went down..
by ChiTown2ShineIn'09 on May 30, 2009 2:05 AM CDT up reply actions
It was when The Bears finally had a QB (if he could stay healthy) that could get the ball down field.
I think that’s what Mike B is speaking of.
the bears had the best defense
almost ever in 05, they had an easy schedule coming, and the qb of the future was going to be healthy. the offseason was full of “05 felt like 84” talk. that was buzz that had some legs being based off success, a lot of this buzz is manufactured.
Technically
the 86 season was 23 years ago, and that was definitely WAY more anticipated than this one. But you probably don’t remember how jazzed up Chicago was that year since you were an infant. But I was the ripe old age of 9, so I can tell you all anyone talked about was the Bears all year.
DEJESUS!!!
11-5
It’s hard for me not to get excited about this year with the off season we have had. We have dramatically improved the quarterback position and offensive line. We have added much needed depth in the defensive line, and improved the linebacker corps. Our run game was good last year. and we pretty much have the same WR’s but have added some rookies who could have an impact. We should be contenders in the NFC and Superbowl. for the next 2-3 years before our defense starts getting old.
by Bears-Bullsfan on May 29, 2009 11:50 PM CDT reply actions
dramatic offensive line improvement?
unless pace is 10 years younger than i think he is…
i consider being one of the deepest OL's in the league a dramatic improvement...
it’ been a minute since that’s been the case.
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on May 30, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
depth is only good
if its good depth. i dont think the word dramatic applies to the oline improvement.
first part came out wrong
the depth is good, but the line’s ceiling is still pretty undefined, the drop off might not be as steep as last year but I don’t know the line is now full of maulers. it is dramatically better than it was early in the offseason though.
Yep
I still want to see it for myself, but I feel a helluva lot better about this line than I did the ’08 version.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
i'm just praying for continuity...
hmmm… i don’t ever remember having so many “what if’s” going into a season… exciting and scary all rolled up into one… i guess it’s a good thing, or we’d have a lot less to talk about around here.
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on May 31, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
JA has reinvented himself
He can say all the quotes he wants about meshing and mixing philosophies but we all know the truth: until this year JA relied on the draft. I have to give him credit and who knows why. Maybe he thought the clock was ticking on his job? Maybe a couple underacheiving seasons coupled with a couple underwelming drafts (Mostly the ill-fated 2005) finally made him wake up. Whatever it was I think I speak for a lot of Bears fans when I say, this change has been good and if he continues this pattern in the future I will not be disappointed.
by Sam Householder on May 30, 2009 1:32 AM CDT reply actions
Ah crap ruined my crappy joke
Supposed to be
I want a teeny some-o-a Pisa!
by Sam Householder on May 30, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Am I Dreaming
Ive never seen such an aggressive offseason in my life, continuing to make big moves and were already past the first OTAs. Not only does this obviously strengthen out defense but I believe with all this depth on defense and all around for that matter that this will make an immediate impact on our special teams and hopefully we can get Devin to turn it on again and swing field position to our favor.
very productive football player
good signing for the bears
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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sorry I am late
Man am I tired of people always wanting more from our management and complaining openly about it! If you had any football sense you (they ) would shut up and be thankful fopr what we did do this off season. Bears Fans all over should be jumping out of their seats. Get a clue be a fan or go root for the packers!
If you live in Chicago you are a bears fan, if you move from chicago you stay a bears fan, if you move to chicago you will be a bears fan.
Can't get excited over this one
Hopefully Pisa can be a seriveable option in the linebacker rotation. I’m not expecting anything more than that and won’t get carried away with this signing.
Awww, come on guys, it's so simple maybe you need a refresher course. It's all ball bearings ...
(you're a) Debbie Downer
“hey guys, can’t get excited about this guy, he’s been injured in the past and he probably won’t do anything, I mean if he was cut by the Rams then he’s probably the worst player ever. Did you hear that he’s only 235 lbs. he’ll probably just bounce off of people. Don’t forget what happened with the last Rams player that came from Lovie Smith’s tenure with the Rams Adam Archuleta.”
If you want to crown em...
by JohnnyTruant on May 30, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
You expect a servicable linebacker
and you’ll be pleasantly surprised.
I expect that, if Corey Graham can pull off the conversion to Free Safety, this addition along with Marinelli’s magic on the D-line brings our D back to dominance.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
Do you have any facts to back up your statement?
He seems like a perfect fit for the cover-2, with the only question is whether or not he can hold up on the strong side.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack." - Sun Tzu
1 year deal?
Does anyone know why the Bears signed him for only one year? Being as productive as he’s been, wouldn’t it make sense to at least lock him up for two? I’m guessing they want to be more flexible with next year’s free agents.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack." - Sun Tzu
Well
it’s win-win for both parties. We get to see if he’s really worth it and he gets to prove his worth to us and the other teams before trying to get a big payday. I’m sure we’ll try to lock him up after next season if he’s good.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
"Now the pressure is on the coaches to make things happen with the talent they have."
It’s up to Lovie? Well, that was fun while it lasted.
by Black Sox Baseball on May 31, 2009 5:56 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
LOL. Wrecked right thurrr
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on May 31, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
He’s quick, and had good enough hands to be considered at FS. Oh, you know that someone in the Bears management was thinking about it, with our recent record of switching defensive players to WR…..
"They tried to take out the quarterback, and if they managed that, they tried to take out the backup." - Bears SB20 TE Emery Moorehead, on the mentality of *that* defense
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