Is Simeon Rice The Next Chicago Bear?
PFT is running an article talking about Simeon Rice's desire to continue playing football.
In a recent interview with WQYK radio in Tampa, Rice asserts that he can still get it done. “Right now, if I was to put on a helmet, I’m automatically in the top five in this league at that spot,” Rice said. “I want to say I’m the number one guy, I’m the king, baby. But I’m not gonna say that because that’s always an earned spot. So I’m humble enough to say, ‘You know what? I gotta go back and do my work.’”
He goes on to say that he has spoken to Tampa Bay about coming back, but says other teams are interested including the Bears.
We seem to be putting a lot of pressure on Rod Marinelli to fix our defensive line, could Rice be one more toy Jerry Angelo is looking to give him.
Interested?
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Bring him in...
Cut him later if necessary… what’s the harm?
I think the only thing that may be an issue is money
if he thinks he is still one of the 5 best he might be looking for more money than JA is prepared to give him.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
Rice did say in the article...
… that coming back was not about the money. To be reunited with R.Marinelli and L. Smith, I would guess he is more interested in cementing his legacy. I hope.
He can say what he wants....
But I would say it is first about the money, second about the game.
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If that were the case...
he did not do himself any favors at the negotiating table.
Think about it....
If he says he needs the money or that it is about the money than who is going to think that he can actually still play? By him saying that it is about his passion for the game and that he is top five in the league, teams are definitely going to take a look.
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Good point
I’m blinded by my love for Bears defense.
That's fine
Sign him to a two-year deal loaded with performance-based incentives with not much guaranteed money. I’d love to have him then.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
Agreed.
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No Brainer of the Week
Get this dude signed. It only improves our team to have him on the roster. If it doesn’t work out, we cut him and our losses and no damage done. If it truely “isn’t about the money” as he proclaims, get him signed on the dotted line today.
If we sign him....
which rookie won’t make the roster….or who is getting cut…I say let him go to Tampa, if he is good, its only gonna be for a bit longer, we have no need when we have two promising rookies that could use the playing time
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
You said it.
Two promising rookies that I say could learn a lot from this guy. If he only gave Chicago two years it would be well worth it. Plus, The Bears could have “Ogunleye Brown Rice”, a dish best served in a SACK.
Dvoracek might be an option of who doesn't make the roster
He is injury prone and when he finally was healthy enough to start he lost his job.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
Dusty needs to go.
I agree with what you’ve said. I’d be happy to have Rice instead of Dusty.
Because as far as we're concerned, there is still no team in the history of the NFL that could beat the '85 Bears.
by Ditkavsworld on May 5, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
We need a road hog in there to stop Urlacher and Briggs from being our main run support
Anthony Adams did a hell of a better job doing it than Dusty did.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
Again I'm right there with ya.
I posted old Dusty’s stats a few weeks ago and needless to say nothing jumps off the page at you. If we get somebody better that can actually bennefit from Harris being double teamed and free the backers up to be backers that’d be nice. He’s a waste of a roster spot and I really can’t see him developing into much more than he already is.
Because as far as we're concerned, there is still no team in the history of the NFL that could beat the '85 Bears.
by Ditkavsworld on May 5, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought Dusty did alright
Considering all they were asking him to do was stop the run.
At least thats what Jeff Dickerson kept saying. And I like JD. :-P
he did alright...
when he wasn’t on IR… which was few and far between. i had hopes for him at one time, but just like everyone else who has been on IR three years running, and subsequently getting dropped by the bears, it’s time to let go.
he's got 1 year left
i say keep him, he’s healthy: good depth on the d line he’s hurt… then you’ve lost nothing other than depth.
he might have one or two good years left
But I agree that it will only retard the development of future D – lineman at this point. We already have to decide on whether Dusty is worth hanging on for another year, so why bother.
The Pats like 35+ year olds.
Wouldn’t surprise me if they gave him a 2 year deal…
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Would be
intriguing to check this guy out.Although,more than a 1 year contract with incentives might be a little too much to sign this guy..Would be interesting though,no doubt of his talent.
by IslandBoodler87 on May 5, 2009 10:17 AM CDT reply actions
He's good but then
Who is out among Melton, Gilbert, Wale, Anderson and Brown?
by Sam Householder on May 5, 2009 10:20 AM CDT reply actions
Don't forget Izzy.
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Idonije can always move back inside if needed
which would be the case if dusty became the odd man out.
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by Halas is God!!!!! on May 5, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
no
maybe last year. but his weight went back down. he weighs less than Tommie Harris, and that means He could Play three technique behind Tommie, but ni way does Idonije play at the NT spot.
that would be a bold move.
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by ifuwannacrownem on May 5, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
seriously, he weighs less then Tommy
dude is like 6’7 aint he.
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by Halas is God!!!!! on May 5, 2009 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Rice
The Dline is starting to look a little crowded already without adding Rice. Ogunleye, Brown, Anderson, Harris, Dusty, Harrison, Adams, Idonije, Gilbert, and probably Melton. Not to mention Baldwin and Toenia could possibly compete for a roster spot. Who goes if Rice signs?
You think?
It’s most likely going to have to be a DT at this point. Unless Gilbert will be a DE, there isn’t much depth at DE on this roster. I’m thinking maybe Adams but Dusty is probably gone now that I think about it.
With Idonije and Gilbert's...
versatility , along with Dusty’s injury history, makes sense to me.
This would be crafty
not because i’m such a fan of Rice, but he would give us great flexibility with 3 DEs in a contract year. mainly this would make a trade for a WR much more likely. I was never on the Boldin/edwards trade bandwagon before, but adding a productive simeon rice for a reasonable contract would leave us with a line so good we could trade Wale. I no his value is low but the bottom line is he is much better than many teams starters at his position and I am sure we would be adding more to any potential trade. I prefer to keep Alex Brown who I expect to have a pro bowl season. yup i’m calling that one. but yea get rice and trade for an actual receiver using the depth at Dline created bt rice’s signing as trade bait. just a thought….
Three words....
an emphatic no!
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
One word...
How?
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
Name the DE's
on the Bears that are better than Rice.
Umm...at Rice's age
everyone currently on the roster at DE. The guy is older than dirt, and can’t possibly help the team at this juncture of his career (or lack thereof).
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
IMO
Yes, I think everyone at DE is better than Rice. Is it really that hard to believe younger players, who have a history of succeeding are better than a mid-thirties guy no team has shown interest to? They had a down year rushing the passer, and everyone completely writes them off.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
Most teams
that aren’t showing interest, do not have R. Marinelli. Rice knows what Marinell expects, more than any current Chicago Bear D-lineman. NFL teams have always brought in veteran players familiar with a new coach. It helps make for a smooth transition. Plus Bringing in Rice would ignite a fire under Ogun’s butt (IMO that is terribly needed). As often as The Bears rotate the D-line, that would allow Rice to keep his legs. I will take Simeon Rice with fresh legs over every Bears DE except, Brown and Ogun (over the next year).
Marinelli may be great
but he can’t make a guy younger.
And “fresh” 30+ yer old legs… aren’t all that fresh.
If hes not playin every down
he could. Like Rdent said they way they rotate even older players can stay fresher through the course of the season.
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by Halas is God!!!!! on May 5, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I think this statement makes a lot of sense
Rice is familiar with Marinelli for one, but i think it would ignite Brown and Ogunleye for the other. Rice back at Tampa was a beast of a defensive end. True he has been out of the game for an entire season but if rotated regularly he would have fresh legs and give tackles some serious fits.
Reggie White was an older guy, but he still threw tackles around like rag dolls even at his age.. Rice has skills that could benefit the D-line in general and help keep them fresh without losing potency. Yes he is old, and that’s where the 1 year contract comes in. After not playing for an entire year i am sure he would agree to a 1 year contract, that way if he has a breakout year then teams will be knocking down his door to sign him for 2 to 3 more years for some serious cash.
Main point is we have nothing to lose. We are in Win Now mode, forget 5 years…it’s time to get that Win Now mentality.
by Chitownproduct on May 6, 2009 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Mortgage the future?
Bringing Rice in for one-year would cause the Bears to release a promising, young rookie. Besides, Whale doesn’t need any motivation because he’s in a contract year. I can guarantee you he’ll be playing with a “fire” lit under you know where.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
Dusty
While I agree he’s the most likely to be cut, but why would Lovie replace him with a DE? That would leave the depth at DT dangerously thin.
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It is if 2 of them suck.
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Do simple arithmetic
and you’ll see that they would be short one DT, and one too many at DE.
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Do simple arithmetic?
Hey proph, just having a nice chat here.
RE: dangerously thin?
So am I. I responded to your question in my title of this post. In the event the Bears do indeed pickup Rice, you mentioned they cut Dusty. I said if that’s the case, they would be one player short at DT….thus very thin at that particular position.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
It was an honest question
Is 4 dangerously thin? Geaux said it was if 2 of them sucked. That was a real answer. It implies that it wouldn’t be dangerously thin if all 4 DTs are solid. Anyone on this website (including me) is smart enough to realize if you cut Dusty and hire Rice, that their would be one more DE and one less DT.
I think
Braylon Edwards should be the next Bear. They don’t need a receiver in return, I’m sure the Bears have something they would want. The Jets are supposedly offering Thomas Jones. I think Jerry could put together something better than an over the hill running back who doesn’t like his contract. Maybe they’d take one of our 6 strong safeties.
DEJESUS!!!
My first good laugh today.
Are you sure we could spare a safety.
Brandon McGowan signed a 2yr...
deal with the Patriots, for those who haven’t heard.
Good riddance.
He lost his jorb to Kevin Payne ffs…
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He wasn't that bad...
He wasn’t a great player, and he had occasional coverage lapses, but when he was healthy, he was starter-quality. The guy could hit. Too bad he couldn’t stay healthy. And why have people been bashing Kevin Payne? When played at his appropriate position (strong safety), he’s pretty solid. When played out of position at the free, he struggled.
No big deal
He was another SS playing out of position at FS for the Bears. Plus, he got injured every other week.
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by propheteer on May 5, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree
I love watching Payne play, sure he makes some mistakes, but it was only his second year, and he broke his arm his rookie year, he had 2nd most tackles on the team and had 4 picks, thats pretty solid for a second year 6th round pick, so I don’t understand all the hate for Payne
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Agree,
solid on special teams though. I think Belichick will make a player out of him.
No disrespect to The Bears coaches, of course.
if he takes a performance-based deal
sure, why not. let the worst non-young DE get cut. that might be wale. he has dropped off significantly the last 2 years. at least alex brown can stop the run.
I really hope they pass on Rice
After seeing him down here (Tampa) I’ve got no desire to see Chicago sign him. He has always had an attitude problem and is a “me first” guy. His production has been minimal with Tampa and in his year with Denver, and he was bad against the run even when he was in his prime.
I heardhim on a radio show just a couple weeks ago. He was spouting off about a conspiracy amongst coaches to black-ball him from the league. He kept saying how dedicated he was and what a hard worker he was. Then he went on to say that coaches don’t like him just because he won’t attend any offseason programs, or spend any time watching film, or hang out with any of his teammates. Gee, can’t imagine why they don’t want him around.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay
Thats funny
It just seems like some guys don’t get it and he is one of them. I’d rather give the roster spot to a rookie and let him develop. I just don’t see Rice being that much better than O-Gun or Brown or Anderson for that matter.
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by Hurricanes becoming Bears on May 5, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, that's that then.
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