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NightLink: Goodell on the NFL season's length

[Roger Goodell]

Last Wednesday, the Wall Street Journal called a panel of the four North American team sports commissioners. In case you don't know, that includes:

Roger Goodell - NFL
Bud Selig - MLB
David Stern - NBA
Gary Bettman - NHL

Anyways, Big Rog had some interesting quotes about the NFL season length. It has been brought up and discussed before, but it doesn't look like this topic is going away anytime soon.

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On whether a proposal to expand the NFL season might conflict with other sports events in February, like the Daytona 500:

Our season is 27 weeks, from start to finish. That's shorter by almost two months than anybody else. And so, we have a very short and concise season. We're not talking about adding two more weeks. We're talking about taking two preseason weeks and making those into regular season weeks. So the length of our season wouldn't really change. We have talked about the idea where we should move the season later, out of August. When it's [emphasis added] "not football season." And move into a September, October, November, December, January period. And in that case, if you did that, you would go into early February.

On injuries in the preseason:

[Fans] continually tell me, directly and through our research, that preseason games are not of value to them. And on the football side, we don't believe that it adds to the quality of the product during the regular season, as it relates to injury rate. Actually, the injury rate goes down later in the season based on our statistics. And it may be for a variety of factors, which we're studying. Is it the competitiveness of the games? There are a variety of factors that go into that. So you always want to create an environment where the game is as safe as possible for your athletes.

I see this as a double-edge sword: I love the NFL season, so having two extra weeks would be awesome for me as a fan. However, taking away two weeks of preseason could also hurt the quality of play by teams, especially at the beginning of the season. Take our beloved Bears, for example. Lovie runs a creampuff training camp for the players. If you take two preseason games away, that takes away from player development and bringing rookies/newcomers up to speed on the playbook, etc.

But that's just my take. Do you like the current format or would you like to see two preseason games get axed for more regular season games?

Poll
As a fan, which option is best for you?
Keep the season at the current format
73 votes
Take away the two preseason games and add two regular season games
154 votes
I'm torn; I can't decide
15 votes

242 votes | Poll has closed

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I'd say

3 pre-season games, 16 regular season games.

But the NFL will only look at this through green-colored len$e$.

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by Dane Noble on May 8, 2009 4:09 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm looking at this through

Double post glasses!

I've officially adopted #94 Marcus Harrison!

by scespy12 on May 8, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

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by Dane Noble on May 8, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Double post....

Tempchad, I need a groin kick here please for Mr. SA over here.

I've officially adopted #94 Marcus Harrison!

by scespy12 on May 8, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh and for the record that is an inside-outside post

a double post is from both sides of the ball.

I've officially adopted #94 Marcus Harrison!

by scespy12 on May 8, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are only half-correct.

Another name for the route I posted is an Inside/Outside Post, but a double post can be both from the same side of the ball, or one on each side. We brought you on as our X’s and O’s guy, but don’t think for a minute sir that I don’t know my way around a playbook too. I myself have spent many a year playing QB and coaching the foosball. :)

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by Dane Noble on May 8, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes you are half correct...

Although that route combo could be defined as a double post, it is already called an inside outside post so the technical definition of a double post is on both sides of the ball, just trying to avoid the lingo confusion… Thats why y’all brought me on right? So I could blast y’all with the knowledge!

I've officially adopted #94 Marcus Harrison!

by scespy12 on May 8, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've got a new proposal...

Almost everyone agrees that the preseason is pretty terribad, so I’m all for getting rid of at least one preseason game, preferably two.

However, I’m not for adding two more games. One more game I could deal with, simply so teams would either have a winning season or a losing season. No more of this 8-8 half and half season, either your on the winning side, or losing side.

I’d also like to see the roster size increased by two or three, specially if we’re going to apply a rookie cap.

by Jacob Hayes on May 8, 2009 4:14 PM CDT reply actions  

I love your last idea for sure

And like I said in the post, I’m torn. There are positives and negatives to both sides….just can’t figure out which is the lesser of two evils.

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by ChiFan13 on May 8, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Le$$er of two evil$...?

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by Dane Noble on May 8, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think having an odd number of games

would cause a problem in that some teams would end up playing more games on the road than at home (and vice versa). I’m sure that the teams with the extra home game wouldn’t be complaining but the teams being slighted would be bitching and moaning about an unfair advantage for other teams in their division. That’s why I think it either has to be: 1) stay the same or 2) 2 more regular season games/2 less preseason games.

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 8, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's pretty feasible...

It wouldn’t be an in conference game, you could even pick two teams and have them play every year alternating home games. This is something I would love, setting up rivalries between two teams that’d continue through the years. For instance, look at the fun the Saints/Bears game became the couple of years we played each other.

However, you add one game and add one bye week add two or three roster spots, and implement the rookie cap and I think you’d get a pretty happy medium.

More players getting paid, less ransom being paid to brand new players, double the current amount of rest time, adding a game that would eventually have a lot of emotion tied into it.

Win/Win/Win as far as I’m concerned.

by Jacob Hayes on May 8, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't really know...

Even if it’s non-conference, a loss would be a loss and I couldn’t see the team’s signing off on that. I think the way you presented sounds like a pretty cool idea and I would be on board for that, just can’t envision teams potentially putting themselves at a (perceived) disadvantage.

As for the rest of your post, I think all that is another issue altogether and they don’t really have to be tied in with the original idea. I would love a rookie cap or pay scale (because the current system is absolutely ridiculous) and another 2-3 roster spots would be great (even if the season were to stay at 16 games).

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 8, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm more thinking in terms of NFLPA/NFL Owners...

And the negotiations that would take place to get any new games or anything like that.

The extra bye week would allow more rest during the season hopefully giving us less fatigue related injuries even over the 16 game seasons.

The rookie cap would please the owners a lot, and as long as the players were paid more for the 17th game there would be a lot more money going to the vets because of the forced salary floor and eliminating that 50mil +10 a year salary from a lot of teams from here on out. Adding in three more roster slots would also give more players a chance to make teams, and thoretically more people being employeed as players which is good for the NFLPA.

The way I’m kind of envisioning this “rivalry” game wouldn’t really disadvantage anyone mostly due to the parity of the league. Other than the Raiders/Lions we’d all be hard pressed to name any team in the modern age that is just so terrible more than a few years in a row. This would be even more true once those top draft picks are valued more due to the rookie cap keeping teams out of cap prison from paying those huge number 1 pick costs. Sure, it’d be another win, or another loss, but no more than two games would be two wins and two losses. Flipping back and forth home games combined already with the revenue sharing should keep the financial advantages pretty similar. This game would also probably have more draw than another “random” game like we have now.

I know I’d care a lot more about us playing the Chiefs for example, if it were going to happen every year.

by Jacob Hayes on May 8, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll do you one better

1 nuetral site game.

that way when teams play in england they don’t lose a home game.

just play 1 game a week in Los Angeles or Las Vegas or a place where they don’t have a professional team, like in Detroit.

by tempchad on May 8, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I could go with a neutral site as well...

Definately, however there are so few of those anymore with good stadiums available. That’s the only reason I’m against it. As far as England goes, count me as the founder/supporter of sending the Pro Bowl to Europe/UK. Seriously, it makes more sense than anything else. What better way to bring football to the unwashed masses than to give them pretty much every start we’ve got for one game a year.

by Jacob Hayes on May 8, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Just had to slip Detroit in there didn’t you lol

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 8, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats funny.

Hear about the blind hooker, you gotta hand it to her.

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on May 8, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind the 18 game season...

One big issue I see is a possible decline in the level of play. Two more games provides a lot of additional opportunities for players (whether they be MVP’s or just STer’s) to get injured. So then you have the issue of having to expand the rosters to adjust for the additional injuries. And players would be making more money for more regular season games so the salary cap would have to be increased (unless they just get rid of it altogether). And the league would also have to deal with the NFLPA because I’m sure they’re not willing to put the players in a situation with an increased chance of suffering injuries (whether they be minor or career ending). There are just too many issues facing the league if they decided to do this so I don’t anticipate a change any time soon.

I wouldn’t mind if they just got rid of one preseason game and kept the regular season the same, even though that would never happen because none of the owners would knowingly agree to cut their profits.

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 8, 2009 4:26 PM CDT reply actions  

all valid points but...

i’m all for anything that lengthens the season!!! adding to the roster is a wonderful idea to help cope with the extra wear/injuries that may occur.

by windycity72 on May 8, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

And believe me, I would love two extra meaningful games too...

Adding to the roster won’t necessarily make up for the injuries though because, for example, if we were to have Forte, Cutler and Hester go down there’s no way we could put guys on the field to replicate their skills. I think there’s just way too much to deal with for it to become a reality any time soon.

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 8, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hate the idea of legthening the season

I love football… but the last week of the season sucks. And adding two more games like that where all you get are “fantasy playoffs” (which i don’t play) and scrub garbage time.

I say no. Worst. Idea. Ever.

by Allie on May 8, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

The last week was actually pretty important for us (and a lot of other teams) last year...

And adding two more games doesn’t necessarily mean more garbage games. They could actually go a long way towards helping a team (like us) win their division or make the playoffs. All in all I think it’s a good idea, just not a realistic one.

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 8, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Peter King wrote a really good column

about this earlier this year…

i need to find that. it pointed out all the reasons i hate it. and gave me no reason beyond “moar football!” to like it.

by Allie on May 8, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well it's actually the same amount of football, just more meaningful football...

And beyond that, as I said in one of my other posts somewhere, the salary cap would probably have to be increased or gotten rid of. Therefore teams don’t have to worry so much about juggling contracts and can focus instead on fielding the best team possible. Sure that would drive contract prices up and end up hurting the small team markets (just like the MLB), but it also means a bunch of better teams as well.

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 8, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Imagine me tossing the bullshit flag

There are two penalties on the play: First is lying on the HBCG, 15 yards. Second is using lolcat within a comment, 15 yards.

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by ChiFan13 on May 8, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh my

I have no words.

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by ChiFan13 on May 8, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thought this might help for visualization purposes...

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 8, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you

I award you two points since Allie just lost one.

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by ChiFan13 on May 8, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

:)

All in good fun.

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by ChiFan13 on May 8, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm sure

besides, at least of the two of us, I’m the one with points to lose.

by Allie on May 8, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey meow (notice the pun? heh?)

I screwed up twice. But I deserve a mulligan for dealing with bossman’s writing….

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by ChiFan13 on May 8, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

well... maybe

but i revoke all your points when got take and talk mixed up.

and you had a boatload from the johnny know thing, which was hilarious.

by Allie on May 8, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

Tis true. Do I get points for special occassions, such as my b-day? Cuz I’d hate to be running the site without some points stored up….

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by ChiFan13 on May 8, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm shocked nobody would want more football

I’d kill for two extra Bears games.

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by ifuwannacrownem on May 8, 2009 4:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Not so much that we don't want it

as much as it just seems unrealistic. I would love to have two more Sundays of meaningful football but I can’t see it happening.

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 8, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let these sissies play two more regular season games

Didn’t they play on both sides of the ball during 14 game seasons?

Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!

by ifuwannacrownem on May 8, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yea but I also don't think they had a player's union then lol

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 8, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ahh true. If I played pro, I'd be all for it

Two more Game Checks=two more private islands.

Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!

by ifuwannacrownem on May 8, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha just what we need, our pro athletes to make even more money!

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 8, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do like the neutral site idea

Now, does your plan mean (hypothetically): Chicago would play Arizona at NYG’s stadium? Or were you referring to moving that game out of the country?

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by ChiFan13 on May 8, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

anywhere that doesn't have a pro team but could generate interest

like los angeles, las vegas, portland or detroit.

yes, i went to that well again.

by tempchad on May 8, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

lmao

Now, I don’t know the first three cities very well, but I can’t think of any fields that could actually hold an NFL game.

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by ChiFan13 on May 8, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

unlv plays at sam boyd silver bowl

la could be the rose bowl or gasp, the coliseum (way to know your nfl history as that is where the raiders played when they were in la)

i don’t know about portland.

by tempchad on May 8, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Duh
the coliseum (way to know your nfl history as that is where the raiders played when they were in la)

i don’t know about portland.

I had a brain fart, ace. Maybe Geaux will let us know if they have stadiums in Portland.

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by ChiFan13 on May 8, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

lmao

+1

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by ChiFan13 on May 8, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey buddy, he ain't your pal.

And there might be a couple of places to play in Portland…

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by Dane Noble on May 8, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look buddy,

if you don’t put your hands on the dash, I’m going to shoot you in the face!

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by Dane Noble on May 8, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

They could just play at the Rose Garden (where the Blazers play)...

And keep the hardwood floors and the baskets, that might make it a little more interesting

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

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by gridiron_assassin on May 8, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

3 hours and 1.5 hours, respectively.

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by Dane Noble on May 8, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

As long as every team is playing a neutral site game then I agree...

Help spread the sport’s popularity overseas and bring it to places without a pro team of their own, I can dig that.

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 8, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

See, that's where I have a problem tho

Imagine if every team had to play one game in London every year. Jet lag ain’t fun….

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by ChiFan13 on May 8, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the majority would be neutral sites in the U.S.

but maybe 3-4 games a year in some other country? Maybe?

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 8, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would work

Even if teams played at other team’s sites (like Chicago at NYG). Plus, there are some pretty sweet venues we could play at, like Pasadena.

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by ChiFan13 on May 8, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't see other teams fans taking care of another stadium as much as they would their own...

If that makes any sense :)

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 8, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, your plan right now is a logistical nightmare.

We have three cities that we could use….wanna use any others?

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by ChiFan13 on May 8, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

you only need one a week

actually less as each team only needs to do it once.

by tempchad on May 8, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

True

But who knows about LA….they might have an actual team soon. Maybe then we could use the Metrodome for a neutral site :D

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by ChiFan13 on May 8, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

More regular season games = more money for the owners,

but more injuries for players. I read a stat a while back that said an average of 17 players get injured each week of the NFL season.

I hate a 4 week preseason, but it is necessary for rookies, OLinemen, and other positions. John Madden said:

“You know, I respect everything that you’ve done, Commissioner. This is one area that I really differ with you. I think that you need four preseason games. You always have to say, ‘For who?’ You say you don’t need them. Well, who doesn’t need them?

“Maybe a running back doesn’t need them, but a quarterback does or a rookie does, a young defensive back, an offensive lineman obviously needs them. I think if you look at the football, if you had any negative thing, in my mind anyway, to say about the football in the first couple of weeks, I would say that the teams weren’t in shape and they weren’t ready to play pro tackle football for four quarters.

“Now I think if you take two of those preseason games out there and add two more [regular season] games at a high, four-quarter-play level, I think you’re going to have a heck of a lot more injuries and I think they’re going to be less ready to play”

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by Dane Noble on May 8, 2009 5:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Was that all a Madden quote?

At any rate, I agree and as I stated beofre, besides just the injuries issue there are just too many other things that the league would have to overcome in order for this to be feasible, and that’s why I don’t really think it would happen.

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 8, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

His quote was in quotes,

after I typed “John Madden said”

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by Dane Noble on May 8, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ouch, that was said a little haughtily lol

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"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 8, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry long day.

-1 on mydamnself.

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by Dane Noble on May 8, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha it's all good

Having one of those myself

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 8, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

been a long week

hope you have a good weekend!

by Allie on May 8, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you dear.

The weather is supposed to be nice, finally. So this weekend should be wondermous.

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by Dane Noble on May 8, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

yay for a nice weekend finally

get out and enjoy the paleness! lol

by Allie on May 8, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

And you have a good one too.

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by Dane Noble on May 8, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's crochet.

Learn the difference.

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by Dane Noble on May 8, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some of that owners money

should go to a comprehensive medical pension plan for retired football players that have been in the league for more than three years. Plus there should be a committee made up of players, owners reps, and a third party to decide on a case by case basis for players that are injured but haven’t been in the league for three years.

by Fridge72 on May 8, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't Know

I am kind of torn too, but the more football, the better and the preseason is a ripoff for everyone. Expand the roster, do away with two preseason games and come up some sort of bonus system because as Adalius Thomas said players are not going to want their current contracts split over 18 weeks instead of 16.

by Sam Householder on May 8, 2009 6:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Love this topic, LOVE IT!!!

So of course more football can only be a good thing, right? Like many of you on this site, football is my religion. I know I’m always sad when the season is over. I don’t even really pay attention to my B-day, like any good fan I’m as old as the amount of football seasons that I can remember. Presents are for the years when the Bears win the north and the good stuff comes during Championship and Superbowl years.

Wouldn’t it be great, just great, if football went all year round. The Superbowl was Dec. 31 and the next season started Jan. 1. Ahhh, almost seems perfect doesn’t it? Except that the quality of the game would go down because every teams roster would have to have like 350+ players. Player salary and ticket prices would probably go down though.

I’ve been thinking about this particular topic ever since Goodell became Commissioner. There was an article, it was a while ago, if I can find it I’ll try to post it later. Would love to see these changes or ones like it:

1.Three pre-season games

2.58-60 man roster plus practice squad increases by at least 6 players.

3.Rookie salary cap and increase the amount of draft rounds again. With this comes a comprehensive medical plan for retirees. ie. Wilbur Marshall etc. etc.

4.Overtime rules have to be changed from sudden death to full fifteen minute quarters.

5.18 week season

6.2 bi-weeks per team per season

7.few more teams, Los Angeles wants one, both San Antonio and Oklahoma City were recently trying to get the Saints. There has to be other cities besides the previously mentioned three that have the market to support one. Look in Canada if they have too, yup I said it. There could be a modern day Bears vs. Packers rival between Vancuever and Seattle.

8.Another round or week of play-offs, this could happen with the new teams.

9.The lame black-out rules have to go.

10.The QB becomes a football player again and not a ballerina, same with the punter. Hell I’d be cool with it if they started wearing leather helmets with no face-masks again.

Well here are some of the changes that I think would make the game better. Certainly they are up for debate. Let’s hear what you have to say, because I could go on and on with this.

by Fridge72 on May 8, 2009 8:58 PM CDT reply actions  

I can see you have given it alot of thought

and I think you are right on the money with all of your idea’s. Kudo’s and well thought out.

Hear about the blind hooker, you gotta hand it to her.

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on May 8, 2009 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

fyi

i hate almost every idea you came up with.

no offense

more roster spots? who cares?

no, overtime should NOT be a full 15 minute quarter. Perhaps hybrid the college rule and give the other team a chance to match or do better to continue. if they don’t, game over.

18 week season (games?) no way they should have 18 games and 3 preseason. it’s too much and these guys will get hurt. your really want to see an nfl where everybody gets hurt or only plays 4 years?

2 bye weeks? f no. 1 blows. weekends without a bears game are horrid.

more playoffs? no thank you. bad enough that 8 – 8 teams can get into the playoffs but add a round and you will possibly get 6 – 10 teams in there.

what lame blackout rules? you live in an area you get the local game. you don’t and you can get directv. i live in los angeles and i get the sunday ticket.

the qb is already a football player. but look what happens when one of the games biggest stars is out of the season. it sucks. i don’t even like the patriots but i want to see tom brady play football. and the punter? not hitting the punter is not exactly a problem in this league.

by tempchad on May 10, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

No offense taken

The purpose of the roster spots was to create more rotation at positions during games, the intention being to lesson the risk of injury. I also should have stated that I thought that the 45 active roster rule should also be increased a little. There are some owners pushing for this now.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/991618/JUDGE:-NFL-should-expand-rosters
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=3114272

Originally I saw a more in-depth article on this subject, but I don’t seem to be able to find it now.

There might be less than three pre-season games, but I really think that the Goodell is going to implement the 18 game season. If there is only two pre-season games, then that’s fine too. As I stated though, I wanted to go back to the older system of having more than seven rounds in the draft. I think that would be ok if teams had more roster spots to fill. At that point, I would think that there wouldn’t be too many veterans playing in the pre-season? Hopefully less than they play now.

I liked the neutral sites idea that I saw above. Let more pre-season games get played in neutral sites and don’t charge the season ticket holders for those tickets.

I know watching football during Bears bye weeks can be a little anti-climatic but the players will need the rest. Provides time for players to heal and all that.

I’m not sure about the play-offs, you have a very good point. I certainly don’t think that sub-par teams should be there. with more games it would change the landscape a little. How much I’m not sure.

As far as the black out rules, I travel a lot and have, rarely, but on more than one occasion run into situations where I couldn’t get Bears games because home teams where I’m at are playing at the same time. I would like to see the network deal the NFL has restructured a bit. I got around that problem a lot last year by watching the games on my laptop streamed over the internet. Those damn rules still annoy me though.

We could argue all day about the Tom Brady rule, but I don’t really see the point. I’m against it. As much as I care about the Pats, which isn’t much, when I saw them I was just as happy to see Matt Casell. Maybe more so.

by Fridge72 on May 12, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

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