Act Like You've Been There Before - PLEASE READ!
by Adam T on Jun 15, 2009 12:54 PM CDT
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PrintI cannot believe you are making me write this one out. I thought we learned basic "How to get along with your neighbor" rules when we were in grade school, yet here we are. We have people going after anybody for any reason just for the hell of it?
Traffic is king on the Internet. If you aren't getting traffic your site goes down. That is plain and simple. The company has recently made a few deals that have brought amazing amounts of traffic to the site. Believe it or not that is a good thing. That allows the company to keep the site going. It allows them to go after ad revenue. It allows them to continually give us bloggers new toys and gizmos to better bring you the information you are looking for.
If you don't like the content of a Fan Post, you don't have to come in with fists flying. You know darn well when you post a comment whether your spoiling for a fight. Trust me, you are allowed to just not click or just ignore. I've seen it done. I know the functionality exists. I've even used it myself from time to time.
When you stop to leave a comment that a post sucks, if you'd take a look at the bigger picture, you'd see that 100 other readers are enjoying it and discussing it like adults.
I know that in a testosterone driven sports world that pride is a big deal, but those of you that decide to write something and put it out there for all to see, there are going to people who don't like your opinion or what you have written. They are going to comment, but you know what? You too can also ignore it. Do you think anybody is going to keep coming back to give you hell over something if you don't respond? It is called baiting. They want a fight, if you give it to them, that's on you.
This is a blog. This blog has a Fan Post section that allows all users to put up posts. I cannot and will not treat this as some elitist website where only Owner approved Fan Posts get made. If I did that then I'd have to approve all comments before they get posted. Then I'd have to institute a 2-day waiting period for joining the site. Is that really the type of site you want?
I don't mind debate, this site thrives on it, even if it does get testy now and again, but do we really have to resort to calling people names just because we don't agree with them? Is that what it has come to? Be nice, I'll tell you when it is time to not be nice (and yes I really did just drop a Road House reference into this).
If you unable to control the urge to start a flame war anytime somebody posts something that you don't like, maybe you should stay away from sites that are based on reader involvement. Just shoot me an email, I'll send you a few sites where you can get news and don't have to listen to what anybody else says.
[Note by WCG, 06/15/09 3:29 PM EDT ] I wanted to add to this a bit. I realize after reading this again, that maybe this post looks like I am speaking directly to the commentors and not addressing the posters enough.
If you decide that what you have to say is worthy of putting on the site...STOP. Think about it for a second. Are you able to back up what you are saying? We have some people who have a lot of history and stats saved up in their heads. They will unleash it on you if you don't come hard.
Also, is it really worth the post? Is what you are about to publish for you or the masses? If you drop a post that isn't Bears related or is but not football related, you will catch some slack. It is as much the responsibility of the person who is posting to reduce flame wars.
Thanks
Adam (WCG)
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You don't know what your talking about.
This has been posted 6x’s already this offseason. Post some facts next time. LOL.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
Wow
exactly how much money do you make as a mind reader?
PC Load Letter? WTF does that mean?!
by ChiTown2ShineIn'09 on Jun 15, 2009 1:04 PM CDT reply actions
Superheroes dont do it for the money......
They fight for justice! Well that and creating intriguing posts that produce healthy debate and stimulates one’s interest.
DNFTT = Do Not Feed The Trolls
well said...
one thing that attracted me to this site is the angry, bitter, responses from people were far and few between, usually just good natured trash talk going on
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jun 15, 2009 1:09 PM CDT reply actions
Usually it is friendly with some heated debate now and then, but for some reason
the name calling and calling post irrelevant is new and rude.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
Exactly why I joined.
The first time I ever responded to any blog was in a Chicago newspaper and some guy went off on me. Not my comments, but me, and that is total b.s. I expect people to disagree with me from time to time, but I don’t expect to be attacked personally. As I’ve written here before, none of us have any real insight into what is happening within the Bears war room, these are just opinions and educated guesses as to what may happen. Treat it as such and there is no problem. When people get too full of themselves, that’s when the name calling starts. There is no place for it. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy reading the exchanges that some of you have who seem to know each other, and the good natured hazing is often very clever. I hope that part never ends, but the attacks because somebody doesn’t agree is ridiculous (and not in the Jeff Joniak good way either).
that might have been me...
and if it was my apologies. I think that I took your response personally and didn’t attack you, but my reply was deleted for being maybe a tad bit to aggressive. When it is all comes down to it, we are all Bears fans and that is a very cool club to be in imo. Football is my favorite game and I am as die hard as anyone when it comes to Da Bears. By the way, I have agreed with you on a lot of topics ever since.
Hear about the blind hooker, you gotta hand it to her.
Rex Grossman has to be a test-tube baby, cause he's not worth a f---!!!
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jun 15, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Once games/training camp starts
I think it’ll get better.
The offseason sucks so we all speculate about the team. And then take it out on each other. Once football weather/activities start, I think the edgy crowd will die out.
Well, I hope so. There are a lot more people here than there was last year.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
That girl has entirely too many brains to have an ass like that.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
This post could have easily been titled
“This is why we can’t have nice things”
hey man, you got a j? No? You'd be a lot cooler if you did...
by ChiTown2ShineIn'09 on Jun 15, 2009 5:19 PM CDT reply actions
It isn't, but it is a possible Glossary addition
considering it gets used a lot.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
This is BS..I hate you all!!! LOL
Hear about the blind hooker, you gotta hand it to her.
Rex Grossman has to be a test-tube baby, cause he's not worth a f---!!!
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jun 15, 2009 7:19 PM CDT reply actions
i swear to god
i read posts on this side and they are pulled by the next time i come back, and they didn’t even have anything bad in them.
growing pains
this same thing happened on bcb. 2005, good, small cubs blog with low readership, fast forward to now and its unreadable but a goliath.
luckily the operators here are better, and although the morality police were quick on the trigger for a couple months that seems to have died down as well. as long as “wrecking” something doesn’t become more important than actually have a thought things will be fine. blogs have to walk a fine line between social sites or discusion sites, the right balance makes all the difference.
We are trying
We are slowly honing in on what exactly we want to keep off and when we want to allow things. At the beginning we just knew we had to start moderating, but all of us moderated at a different level.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
I was once posting on the Sun Times site
and I went after another poster who had said some things I deemed offensive. I posted my comments and I got an E-mail from Brad Biggs telling me to attack the comments not the person and that while he enjoyed what in had to say he wanted to warn me about being a better poster in the future. Highly effective. I know that’s probably really time consuming, but if you have one or two posters that consistently bait and attack, maybe worth a try.
"The cup is not half empty and neither is the cup half full. The cup's just too damn big." -George Carlton
Oh, and good timing.
"The cup is not half empty and neither is the cup half full. The cup's just too damn big." -George Carlton
I can’t work out why they/let NBS’ posts through there. When it comes up in every single entry, it’s not worth my while scrolling as far as the comments.
"They tried to take out the quarterback, and if they managed that, they tried to take out the backup." - Bears SB20 TE Emery Moorehead, on the mentality of *that* defense
Why wasn't I emailed?
I left a comment, indirectly calling someone a female cleansing product and I no longer see the comment posted. Maybe I didn’t post it, but pretty sure I did. What’s up?
First time we delete a comment
we usually let it go. I think you can guess why we deleted it. If we have to do it more often you will receive one.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
I was coming to the defense of a GOOD post (apparently inappropriately). The post obviously took time to construct. Also it was posted by windycity72 (not that windy needs my help defending any post), whom I have always had GREAT conversation with. I admit, I got fired up!!
If you don’t like a post, drop some positive ideas for posts you would enjoy. Don’t be rude, obnoxious, and purposely hurtful.
Not sure where you are going with this.
Since it is replied on my comment I assume you are saying that my post is rude, obnoxious and hurtful. Is that a correct assumption.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
He's explaining why he got fired up. He was upset people were bashing...
windycity72’s post and how they should post positive ideas for a better post instead of being rude and obnoxious and purposely hurtful.
But no matter why he was fired up, the reply was deleted for innappropriate content.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
are you referring to me?
i hope not as nothing i said violated any rules here.
Yes
But I didn’t say you violated any rules.
so my post wasn't positive enough for you
look, i don’t want this site turning into that crapfest that is BCB. I want a place that we can argue and rip each other apart. you do not move along a discussion where everyone is being “positive”.
And just so you know, I’ve been here since the beginning. one of the if not the longest tenured posters this board has. I even came put the the tagline. “Being who you thought we were since 2005”
I've never been to BCB.
Sounded like lookingdead really likes the site. If I didn’t care for BCB and wanted to discuss that subject, I would have responded differently than you did. I think you and I have very different opinions on what a good conversation is. I don’t know if you are a “troll” or a welcomed user at this site. I have NO idea if you are well liked or despised. I’ve only been around this site for a few months.
The end result
is disagree and debate and discuss all you want, just don’t make it personal. Too often somebody resorts to calling somebody a name or inferring something about their sexual preference and then we have to start deleting things.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
No call for that
ever. Too many boards are destroyed by those who primarily want to engage in the name-calling. Go see the Bears board on yahoo if you want wall-to-wall name-calling.
by lookingdeadred on Jun 17, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions
if your idea of good conversation is a big lovefest where everyone agrees
then count me out.
this is a place to express opinions. and if you post here expect to get criticized for them. just be strong enough to take it.
btw, icarr said peace out...
just passin’ along the message… would’ve emailed, but….
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
since it's obvious where this all stemmed from, allow me to chime in...
when you’re actually talking about football, you seem to know what you’re talking about… i don’t really think anybody minds the “DEVIL’S ADVOCATE” roll, as it sparks debate. the BULLY’ish approach is what gets me. do i wish there was more BEAR news to talk about? ABSOLUTELY!!! BUT UNTIL THEN, members of this site are courteous enough to take time out of their busy schedules to put something together for the rest of us to enjoy/read/debate.
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 16, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
and i take time out of my day to point out things
i find ridiculous.
welcome to the internet
that post took me 5 hrs to research, calculate, and post
70% of it had to be typed out,
30% was cut and paste… how long did it take you to post a reply?
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 16, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
sweet baby jeebus!
what are you typing? a dissertation?
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
printer is down, had to re-write by hand...
not that it’s anybody else’s issue but mine, but regardless, i did it for the group as a whole to discuss during some downtime. i’m sure some of those “TOP 10” posts took similar time(maybe not 5hrs) to put together
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
Heh-hem...
I believe you mean
“sweet baby Ditka!”
hey man, you got a j? No? You'd be a lot cooler if you did...
by ChiTown2ShineIn'09 on Jun 16, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
by Ashley Czuba on Jun 16, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I stand corrected
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
hey man, i just commented on one movie from the list
i didn’t crap on you making the list. or the list itself. but you have to understand, if you are going to post something like that, you are going to get criticized by people who disagree.
why should "i" get criticized?
i’m not a fan of the movie either… but half, if not more are “football themed” movies, and interestingly enough, while never having a confrontation with you EVER on this site, when i was typing in that particular movie, i already knew You were gonna have a problem with it… judgemental, yes, absolutely, and that’s on me… but how far from the truth was it?
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
aren't you happy then?
people make posts to get a response. be it positive or negative.
for me i love getting responses to my posts. it’s why we do it. and i don’t care if i get flamed all day long.
the truth is that you wanted to post that to get a response from the readers. you got mine. you just didn’t like it.
You seem to equate
vigorous debate and disagreement with yelling and name-calling. If you prefer that to debating and intelligent discussion, then I recommend you go to the Bears board on yahoo. You will be very happy, lots of arguing and ripping into each other by a whole posse of mental midgets.
As for this board, the emphasis is on reasoned and for the most part considerate debate. No one is talking about a big lovefest, that is a strawman. There are lots of disagreements here, and people have strong opinions and are not afraid to share them. This may be a first for the board, quoting Artistotle, but he said: It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. Are you up for that, tempchad?
by lookingdeadred on Jun 17, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Mental midgets, huh?
And you are against name-calling? Interesting.
Be nice. Flag comments that you think are offensive. Use the "reply" button. Drink plenty of water. Compliment others. "Rec" comments and posts you like. Don't call people names. If you don't like someone's comment, attack the comment and not the commentor. Learn the difference in your/you're, then/than, to/too. Exercise. Relax. Stretch often. Find good in the world.
what i find interesting is...
how people are leaving this site quoting “preferential treatment” by administrators…
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
Care to provide anything to back that up?
Be nice. Flag comments that you think are offensive. Use the "reply" button. Drink plenty of water. Compliment others. "Rec" comments and posts you like. Don't call people names. If you don't like someone's comment, attack the comment and not the commentor. Learn the difference in your/you're, then/than, to/too. Exercise. Relax. Stretch often. Find good in the world.
i would email them to you but,
a. you guys already know of one person that i’m talking about
b. it be kinda shady of me to share personal emails from others
take my word or don’t, but it’s amazing how many times i would see a ZEN MOMENT from you for situations like this, but yet this is twice that i’ve noticed that you have “fired back” at a member of this site.
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
LOL
Be nice. Flag comments that you think are offensive. Use the "reply" button. Drink plenty of water. Compliment others. "Rec" comments and posts you like. Don't call people names. If you don't like someone's comment, attack the comment and not the commentor. Learn the difference in your/you're, then/than, to/too. Exercise. Relax. Stretch often. Find good in the world.
I'm just going to stop this one right here
I have made it abundantly clear if anybody is having problems regarding anything to do with this site that an email to me is the first place to start. How does an email from some guy to you help anything? If I don’t know about it, I certainly cannot fix it.
It seems like everybody is using a forum where I asked people to act civil as a medium to complain and yell at each other.
If you or anybody believes they are treated differently than anybody else or unfairly, if you don’t contact me about it, I cannot help.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
email it is...
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
I am human
I make mistakes, too, as I bet you do, too.
BTW, have you been to that board? If yes, do you agree with my take? If no, maybe you should check it out.
by lookingdeadred on Jun 18, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Debate and disagreement
are the lifeblood of boards like this, but ripping into people is counterproductive. I would have thought that would be obvious.
by lookingdeadred on Jun 17, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
that policy needs to be re-thought
Any time a post is deleted, an email should go out explaining why, otherwise the problem is likely to repeat itself. If you bust your child but don’t say why, you are creating problems not solving them.
by lookingdeadred on Jun 17, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions
It depends on the situation.
But thanks for your input.
Be nice. Flag comments that you think are offensive. Use the "reply" button. Drink plenty of water. Compliment others. "Rec" comments and posts you like. Don't call people names. If you don't like someone's comment, attack the comment and not the commentor. Learn the difference in your/you're, then/than, to/too. Exercise. Relax. Stretch often. Find good in the world.
Situation being?
new user name calls = Delete
vet name calls = Well, you will get used to it . It’s just their way.
by rdent4hof on Jun 17, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not at all.
If a brand new poster drops an f-bomb, we’ll probly email him/her and let them know why we deleted it.
If someone has been around for a while, and understands the guidelines, but still posts something inappropriate, we’ll delete it and probably not send an email explaining it, beacuse they will already know why we did it.
Bigger picture: read and follow the community guidelines, use common sense when posting, ask someone if you don’t know something, and post intelligently. And you can use my sig as your own personal mantra if you like :)
Be nice. Flag comments that you think are offensive. Use the "reply" button. Drink plenty of water. Compliment others. "Rec" comments and posts you like. Don't call people names. If you don't like someone's comment, attack the comment and not the commentor. Learn the difference in your/you're, then/than, to/too. Exercise. Relax. Stretch often. Find good in the world.
Hey...
I only did it that once, and I learned my lesson! :)
On a serious note, from reading the guidelines, it would seem like there would be more “punishment” handed out. Is this not the case? Not that I am for that, just curious. For example, exactly how many f-bombs would I have to drop on consecutive days before I am ebanninated?
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Jun 17, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
"Punishment" as you call it,
is discretionary, and ultimately up to the boss, WCG. But it is not made public, obviously.
Post responsibly, and flag comments and posts that you want to bring to our attention. Keep it simple, and let’s try to avoid all of the “what ifs” and hypotheticals.
Be nice. Flag comments that you think are offensive. Use the "reply" button. Drink plenty of water. Compliment others. "Rec" comments and posts you like. Don't call people names. If you don't like someone's comment, attack the comment and not the commentor. Learn the difference in your/you're, then/than, to/too. Exercise. Relax. Stretch often. Find good in the world.
noted.
And to make it clear, I only called it “punishment” because others had.
Now… “People, I just want to say, you know, can we all get along? Can we get along? Can we stop making it, making it horrible for the older people and the kids?…It’s just not right. It’s not right. It’s not, it’s not going to change anything.”
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Jun 17, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
hmmm
Geaux Bears posted:
Bigger picture: read and follow the community guidelines, use common sense when posting, ask someone if you don’t know something, and post intelligently. And you can use my sig as your own personal mantra if you like
The rules should be applies the same way to all who post here. Having two sets of rules for newbies and for vets is a foolish. Anyone who has children know the importance of being consistent.
by lookingdeadred on Jun 17, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
There are not 2 sets of rules, and I'm not sure why you are trying to keep this stirred up.
There is a difference in a policy and a procedure. The policies (rules) are for all members, new or old.
The procedures (of admin making decisions) are discretionary, and handled on a case by case basis.
WCG, ChiFan13, and myself communicate all day, everyday, about all things blog related, from posts to comments to members to layouts to graphics, and everything in between. There is a ton that goes on behind the scenes, but the main point is that we are all on the same page, and are always aware of what is going on on the blog in real-time.
We have a very open line of communication, and generally come to a concensus when something needs to be handled in a specific way.
Be nice. Flag comments that you think are offensive. Use the "reply" button. Drink plenty of water. Compliment others. "Rec" comments and posts you like. Don't call people names. If you don't like someone's comment, attack the comment and not the commentor. Learn the difference in your/you're, then/than, to/too. Exercise. Relax. Stretch often. Find good in the world.
This board
and Bleed Cubbie Blue for that matter, are oases of sanity compared to other sites’ boards I have checked out, most unfortunately, the yahoo boards, what a cess pool. I had to laugh when I saw WCG’s post. I guess I am jaded by my experience on other boards, but I have seen nothing that compares with the incessant mine’s bigger posts of the other boards. I will be curious to see what happens once the season actually begins. Will there be an influx of trolls from other teams like there are on all the other boards? Hopefully no, or that the regulars here have the good sense to recognize them for what they are, not worth responding to.
by lookingdeadred on Jun 16, 2009 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Are you f'ing kidding me?
Bleed Cubbie Blue is a cesspool. Probably the worst Cubs site in all of the internet. Al Yellon is horrible and the posters are 10 time worse.
Sample BCB Thread
Don’t you Think Aramis Ramirez is Great?
Totally. He’s awesome.
No, I don’t agree. I think he’s super super awesome.
GO CUBS!
Don’t ever compare this place to BCB.
Been there lately?
We’re really not that bad.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
i check from time to time as with the readership
i figure it would have the first word on any breaking news.
I cannot tell you how much i despise that site. The moment you criticize anything people bitch and Al deletes your post.
it’s a chickensh*t site for chickensh*t fans.
and no, i don’t care if this is insulting to you. in fact outside of bcb readers most cub bloggers agree with me. BCB is universally hated.
If you cricitize without being an ass
you’re not deleted.
I know lots of Cub fans outside of BCB hate it (ACB seems to be particularly negative towards BCB and Al).
Logging into a thread solely to bitch and swear, yeah, that usually gets you bitched at. But being there and not being pollyanna about everything is fine. I criticize the Cubs all the time, but I’m not a completely jackass about it.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
if you disagree with Al
eventually he will get rid of you. acb is full of people banned for pointing out holes in Al’s arguments, and who didn’t appreciate being told they were wrong, then having their rebuttals deleted. most went out with bang not caring anymore, which is exactly what Al wanted, high volume not good content.
my last 3-5 posts there are the most mundane on the internet and they still got me banned.
Eh
I’ve been there for more than a year (under my old screen name and now this one) and have never had any real problem with Al nor any of the “regulars”.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
I have been there for a few months
and I have not had any problems, despite some strong disagreements. It is a question of how you say what you want to say. Some feel they need to be oscnene/abusive to make their point, I am glad that BCB and WCG squash that kind of childish behavior.
by lookingdeadred on Jun 17, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
this is exaclty my point...
it’s a chickensh*t site for chickensh*t fans.
i’m a south sider, so i could care less… but you just basically insulted every member here who is a member there…
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 16, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
well i'm a member there, so what does that say
and yes, i did call out EVERY one of them. that was not an accident.
believe it or not, i actually enjoy some of the things you write...
alot of it cracks me up!!! and… i don’t mind debating things with you either, i.e., the welker scenario, and for the record, i didn’t succomb just to “play nice”, i did because your point was valid… the condescending overtone/undertone??? i could do without… i’m a man, the same as you… and NOBODY BUT NOBODY enjoys being talked down to.
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
my tone is harsh
people get used to me.
don’t take it personally. on the internet, i’m not a nice guy. i real life, i’m a peach.
why not just be you?
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 16, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just be glad he doesn't use a LOT of CAPITAL LETTERS
and tons of exclaimation points!!!! As much as his lack of capital letters bothers me, it has its upside!!!!!!
Be nice. Flag comments that you think are offensive. Use the "reply" button. Drink plenty of water. Compliment others. "Rec" comments and posts you like. Don't call people names. If you don't like someone's comment, attack the comment and not the commentor. Learn the difference in your/you're, then/than, to/too. Exercise. Relax. Stretch often. Find good in the world.
mostly just 3 of every punctuation mark...
and i don’t use caps, or more than 3 unless i’m trying to MAKE A POINT!!!!!
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
A peach?
Don’t see it.
BTW – Wanna fire up the Marshall for Dez Clark and a 2nd trade talks?
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
you don't know me in real life
i’m a swell fella
oh i know i didn't answer it
i have been asked to play nice here and i’m trying to obey orders
were you serious about this ?
because, honestly, Dez and a 3rd wouldn’t be too bad, but you still have to give BM a lot of money. sure, we’ve got Gaines now that could replace Dez Clark, and may even be an upgrade, but why not keep him and throw the same money, or less, at Plax? and i don’t remember who was looking at him, but out of the 3-4 teams that were supposedly negotiating with Plax, i think we have the best shot at a SB run. however, the BM thing, i read somewhere he was being looked at by Baltimore? anyone else heard/read this?
hey man, you got a j? No? You'd be a lot cooler if you did...
by ChiTown2ShineIn'09 on Jun 16, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions
please stop
he was kidding.
no one will trade anything of value for dez clark. that is why he said it. he knows that when people put dez clark in trade scenarios, i go nuts.
I was told that I ruined this house with my anger
sure
since you asked nicely…
hey man, you got a j? No? You'd be a lot cooler if you did...
by ChiTown2ShineIn'09 on Jun 17, 2009 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions
why do you feel it is okay to
not be a nice guy on the internet? Why is it okay to be abusive on the internet and not in person? I am pretty sure I know the answer but I am curious to see your response.
by lookingdeadred on Jun 17, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah
Gotta tell ya. I don’t feel offended.
If thats the worst thing I come across on the internet today: i’ll call it a win.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
you can't get any worse harassment at BCB
it’s not allowed.
but yet you're offended by this...
talk to me when you win a world series… or in another hundred years… whichever comes first!
a little hypocritical, no?
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
Being called a chicken shit
bothers me less than having something I have no control over thrown in my face for no reason.
I said nothing to provoke that comment and it pissed me off. I know Chad doesn’t like BCB and he has reasons. That doesn’t bother me.
Plus, tempchad ALWAYS has that tone. You were new. Crap like that for no reason is a sure fire way to get on my shit list right off the bat.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
so i'm new here... and?
does that means my opinions count less than yours? way to set a precendent…
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 16, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Your opinion is just as valid
but you haven’t earned that right to use that tone, IMO. TempChad has. I know his tone and can get over it. New people don’t get that immediately. At least not from me. At least not directed at me for no god damned reason.
IF I’d provoked that comment, I’d be more understanding about it. But I’d said nothing about the south side, the world series drought, nothing other than a mild anti-AL comment.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
so who do i talk to about getting on that list of pertinent people...
and how many posts/replies do i need before i qualify?
or maybe, it’ll be easier to list the names of people you’re not allowed to reply to until you become a ’REGULAR"…
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 16, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Look at it this way.
New people always have to take their lumps. Nobody likes whiners, but to be able to take your lumps and defend your positions intelligently will get you very far around these parts.
I don’t mean that in an insulting way, just trying to look at it in a different way. All of my comments and posts were stupid when I started here… luckily I got a promotion and now can just ban people who disagree with me. :)
In all seriousness, learn the tone of the site, posts your thoughts intelligently, and be prepared to defend yourself. If you do those things, it will all be good.
Chad can be an ass, but he can defend his positions and opinions very well. That is why most people don’t take offense to him.
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Well
whining certainly won’t get you off the list.
But there is no arbitrary requirement.
I like newbies in general. But when you’re a jerk (and that ‘talk to me when you win something’ IS jerk-stuff, IMO) doesn’t go over well. And until you either get that or I get over it, I probably won’t like you. But I’ll read your comments, respond if I think it’ll make a difference or ignore it if I don’t think I will… and just go on.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
so... apparently
If thats the worst thing I come across on the internet today: i’ll call it a win.
that must’ve been the worst thing you came across in a while…
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
How long does one have to post here
to get a pass on using an abusive tone? Kinda hypocritical dontcha think? Something is abusive or it is not.
by lookingdeadred on Jun 17, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is it not so much using an abusive tone
But “knowing” who the poster is and how to read the poster? While his general tone may be abusive, there are nuances as to what he actual says/means and he may not actually mean to be abusive but that’s how it comes across to people who don’t know how to read him.
Look
Take me, for instance. I can be a real asswipe at times, a provoker at others. I’ve argued with damn near everyone on this blog. However, I respect a lot of the people on here and have established rapport with them. I know how they post and (usually) what they mean. Likewise, they know my writing style and how to take what I say.
In other words? Something that is abusive to you is regular talking amongst two longtime bloggers. Stay here long enough and you’ll understand. Until then, don’t get too yappy unless you wish to alienate a lot of the people on here.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
It's kind of like this.
You would take it differently if your best friend came up and talked to you in an abusive tone – you’d be able to tell they were teasing. But if a random stranger walks up and does it, it’s not so easy to tell.
That’s just how it is on here. A lot of us have gotten to know the way the others talk and express themselves, so while some things may seem mean or abusive, we can usually tell when they’re joking or just trying to get a rise out of someone.
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
by Ashley Czuba on Jun 17, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1 perfectly stated.
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Jun 17, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
well
if this place gets any more annoying, it won’t matter cause no one will be here.
by mike b on Jun 17, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Any more annoying?
I will take this place on its worst day over trying to “debate” with a majority of the members on CBS Sportsline….especially some of the trolls over there…
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
No
I don’t think its hypocritical.
The first time you read tempchad, you’ll probably feel like he’s “abusive”. But he’s not. He’s blunt and wants to call people out.
Also he was here before me so I figured he couldn’t be a complete idiot. So I lurked, read, and got to know the TONE of the website. And tempchad fit in (btw: sorry to keep using you as an example of a jerkface, you’re just right there!) with the tone of the overall website.
Its not a hold hands and talk knitting patterns site. This is about football. And if you get your feelings hurt talking about football strategy, etc…
Re: the baseball stuff. I made an anti-AL comment (about the possible Peavy trade and how he would’ve wanted to stay in the NL) and then go told by someone I’ve never seen before “don’t talk to me until you win something”. Maybe I did overreact, if we’re going to dig up old stupid shit read the whole thing here.
If you demonstrate you know what you’re talking about, I’ll probably be willing to give you a pass on most things, and especially your tone. And guys like Blou, TempChad, Mike B, GB, ChiFan, etc HAVE demonstrated that to me. And I think I’ve done a decent job of proving myself as knowledgeable to them, at least, I’d LIKE to think so. People who haven’t done that have much less wiggle room on things outside of football.
Alright. Maybe I am a hypocrite. But I’m being honest.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
So, in other words,
post intelligently, learn the tone of the site, and don’t try to get personal with people you don’t know?
Hmmm, what a novel idear. Well said hbcg.
(but really, blou?)
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I don't hate Blou
he’s reasonably knowledgeable… and easy to ignore when the situation is called for.
He was just an example, anyway. :-P
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
to quote you...
If you demonstrate you know what you’re talking about, I’ll probably be willing to give you a pass on most things, and especially your tone.
here’s just a sample:
As #23, windycity72, and others have stated,
-Windycity hit the nail on the head
-Windycity72 is right
-Also it was posted by windycity72
-I see you’ve done a lot of research windycity72
-Nice windycity!
-Like Windycity72 I don’t see it happening
-Nice post windycity72.
-Windycity72 has confirmed it
-Huzzah for windycity72!
and those are just the one’s that mention me personally…
i guess i may know a little bit more than you think!
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
And thats part of why you're not on mine
You say what you want, how you want and let the chips fall where they may. I like that, even if your tone sometimes really annoys.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
that sounds cool to me
at least you get it.
i get it now, too... believe me!
especially now since i’m being censored for being the “new kid at school”…
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 16, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don't you keep up?
It’s crocheting, not knitting. Even chad gets that.
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and at this point in the original thread
i posted a comment which got deleted.
I know not what you are referring to.
In what thread?
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dude do you remember what i said after we had this
conversation the first time?
Apparently not.
Was it the GeoMak thing?
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IIRC it's is when i may or may not have
made a comment concerning your sexuality.
am i wrong here?
I was told that I ruined this house with my anger
Lol.
That’s right. Sorry, I can’t keep up.
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gadzooks man
it’s the reason for the rule
I was told that I ruined this house with my anger
Weaving?
officer, i can’t even knit!
hey man, you got a j? No? You'd be a lot cooler if you did...
by ChiTown2ShineIn'09 on Jun 16, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
yes. i posted that.
what point are you trying to prove?
Clearly you have issues
I have been quite critical of some things and have yet to have a post deleted. Maybe you need to rethink your methods or where you post.
by lookingdeadred on Jun 17, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've only been on a couple times
But dear god is Al hated over at Desipio and Hire Jim Essian. Though to be fair, there don’t seem to be many people that aren’t hated there.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay
It is clear we value different things
1. BCB has its share of insipid threads, what board doesn’t? It also has many good discussions, but I guess you missed them.
2. BCB does not have the moronic back and forth battle royals between posters who are trying to show off. The discussions are for the most part civil, a quality you seem to think is overrated.
As I said in an earlier response to you, you seem to equate vigorous debate and disagreement with yelling and name-calling. If ripping into people is how you define a good board, you are in the wrong place.
by lookingdeadred on Jun 17, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
BCB
BCB has a lot of good posters. It also has it’s fair share of junk. But that’s all due to its size.
I like Al’s take on a lot of things. I disagree with him on a lot and I’ve rarely seen him kick somebody out for disagreeing with him. I see a lot of disagreement with him constantly. It’s when people get mean and personal about it that causes problems.
keep your head in the sand
i love your Al Yellon colored glasses by the way.
and any good posters there are lost in the sea of blue colored barf i see there.
I was told that I ruined this house with my anger
it's hard to wade through 500 bs posts
just to find a nugget or two.
and tell al that the infield in just saved a run in the cubs game.
I was told that I ruined this house with my anger
Then your subtraction
is BCB’s addition.
by lookingdeadred on Jun 18, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
We do get an occasional troll, but usually it isn't that bad
Two or three guys show up. Two to congratulate us on the win, one to start trouble. We go back and forth for a few hours and then they go away.
It will be interesting to see now that we have the new influx if that changes.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
Hey WCG. Any chance you could repost the fanpost from when Cutler was signed
so we can see everybody’s initial reactions again?
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Jun 15, 2009 10:32 PM CDT reply actions
This what you looking for?
http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2009/4/2/820039/breaking-news-bears-get-cutler
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
apparently i'm late to the party
My only comment is that GeauxBears abuses his power to delete posts.
by No It All on Jun 16, 2009 10:40 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I completely disagree with you.
He way more lienent than I would be.
When I played I was a triple threat.... Stumble.... Fumble.....Grumble....
There are going to be some automatic deletions, without discussion.
Those topics include any comment that could be insulting regarding sexual preference, race, gender, politics, religion… just to name a few.
Any blatant name-calling or direct insults to posters will probable be deleted as well. Attack the comment and not the commentor.
If anyone needs a refresher on the community guidelines, you can read them here.
It is not our intent to stifle anyone’s opinions, but we will absolutely not tolerate comments that are inappropriate. It is not a hard concept to understand. Unfortunately, we have a few people who feel like they can make any comment that they wish, but we all know that we have a responsibility when posting.
Moderating these boards is not fun, but stay clear of the above mentioned topics, and there will be very few problems.
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A little off the subject but it would be helpful too
I’ve only been doing this for a few months, like some others, and have done it completely by trial and error. Because of this I have no idea how to do the links, the pink boxes for quotes, etc. Is there someplace on this site where there are instructions for all of those things? I know that the other day there was some instruction for links, but I don’t remember where it was. If there is an actual page or reference source for that type of information that I could always access, it would be helpful to me. If there is such a setup already, I apologize for my lack of knowledge or ambition to ACTUALLY find it.
Thanks.
Not to kiss anybody’s a**, I think you guys do an incredible job with this site and appreciate the amount of work and time you put into it. It makes the off-season a little bit more bearable (no pun intended).
Hmm
I know they’ve posted things on fanposts, but I don’t know about comments.
Anyway.
The pink boxes (blockquotes) are done by clicking the quote button (between the header and the body of your comment there are buttons, click the quote mark) and then putting what you want in the box between the tags.
Links are the same way. Use the chain link button.
Trial and error is a good way to go about it. Use the preview button a lot while you’re still learning. :-) Thats how I learned.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
Left hand sidebar "WCG tutorials"
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Nice community guidelines.
I had never read them before. Perhaps they should be posted periodically on the main page as a reminder?
"The cup is not half empty and neither is the cup half full. The cup's just too damn big." -George Carlton
And I forgot to hit reply. Again.
"The cup is not half empty and neither is the cup half full. The cup's just too damn big." -George Carlton
I understand
I’m going to sound like an idiot right here.. here I go
What exactley is a troll
Sporting 4 Sports
I was going to post some lame response about small furry creatures, but
here is the Wiki def. for you:
<<In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response1 or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.2>>
In terms of this blog it usually comes in the shape of a user on a blog for another team who wants to tell us our team sucks or something along those lines.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
They tend to hang out under bridges
And supposedly are not fond of goats
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay
I believe the trolls might look like this.
Because as far as we're concerned, there is still no team in the history of the NFL that could beat the '85 Bears.
by Ditkavsworld on Jun 17, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Where the hell did you find a picture of me!!
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
Not to say WCG needs one, but I see benefits in at least a one day waiting period after registration.
I mean, it definitely defers those looking to just post a stupid comment and then leave to never come back, which in turn helps find the good bloggers as the good ones will be back the next day – excited to contribute.
Also, someone who registers isn’t going to do so and then immediately sign out. However, if they can’t actually post anything for a day then that leaves them with only one option: reading other people’s posts. What better a thing than the prospect of forcing people to get to know how a blog works before attempting to contribute?
by Black Sox Baseball on Jun 16, 2009 3:40 PM CDT reply actions
Funny thing is,
I rarely disagree with a fellow Bears fan in day to day life. Now that I have joined this site, I see how people can bring up various situations or posts and get all kinds of respones. I have to be honest, tempchad is funny as hell and I get a kick out of most of his arguments. Maybe not all of you like his responses, but you have to admit that he is really good at getting a reaction out of people. Good entertainment is what I like to call it.
Hear about the blind hooker, you gotta hand it to her.
Rex Grossman has to be a test-tube baby, cause he's not worth a f---!!!
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jun 16, 2009 6:01 PM CDT reply actions
Most likely I would agree,
but I don’t know who he is?
Hear about the blind hooker, you gotta hand it to her.
Rex Grossman has to be a test-tube baby, cause he's not worth a f---!!!
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jun 16, 2009 6:08 PM CDT reply actions
I think
he’s a sports radio show guy on 670 the score… not sure, but i listen to it via internet feed (just started recently) and i think that’s the one guy’s name from “Boers and Bernstein”
hey man, you got a j? No? You'd be a lot cooler if you did...
by ChiTown2ShineIn'09 on Jun 16, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
should have added
it’s 670 the score based outta Chicago
hey man, you got a j? No? You'd be a lot cooler if you did...
by ChiTown2ShineIn'09 on Jun 16, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I live for "Who You Crapping"
I listen to it whenever I can
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
my goodness
you guys don’t know who terry boers is?
he’s been a sports writer in chicago for 100 years.
I was told that I ruined this house with my anger
Rodney Has a message for us all.
Because as far as we're concerned, there is still no team in the history of the NFL that could beat the '85 Bears.
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