Time To Vote: Plax, Marshall, Jones, or None of the Above
by Dane Noble on Jun 16, 2009 3:54 PM CDT
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Marshall is too expensive and Plax has broken too many laws to be a Bear.
I say we take Hester off WR, let him do his think with the kicks, and reap the benefits.
Seriously though, I want a WR but not either of the two mentioned and haven’t been keeping up with Jones.
by Black Sox Baseball on Jun 16, 2009 3:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Demote Hester from playing WR?????
Wow, I’m glad you’re not in charge. He has gotten consistently better and looked really good over the last 6 games.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
by #23 on Jun 16, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
regardless of his actual WR abilities
he gets too much money to be a return only guy
by tempchad on Jun 16, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate this style of management.
Even though this isn’t baseball, you should still put talent before cost when considering who to play.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 16, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
But money is #1 the majority of the time. The NFL is business, as we are reminded every moment of every day. It would be great if they would always put people in the best position to help the team but in this case it seems kind of obvious they are willing to sacrifice 23’s abilities of a kick returner because they had to pay him more.
After this season we will see if he is still overpaid or not though.
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by Qgee on Jun 16, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if if's and buts were candy and nuts...
dude, wake up.
I was told that I ruined this house with my anger
by tempchad on Jun 16, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What?
I only mentioned baseball b/c the argument makes more sense there where you don’t have a salary cap.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 16, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wasn't talking about your mention of baseball
i’m talking about your mention you hating that style of management.
get used to it.
I was told that I ruined this house with my anger
by tempchad on Jun 17, 2009 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, I'm gonna track down every major sport GM and coach/manager...
and obliterate any memory of salaries from their brains. Then, I’ll convince all of them to fork over the information to access the money used to pay players, and any physical or digital records of salaries. Problem solved. :)
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 17, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
let me know how that works out for you
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by tempchad on Jun 17, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finished.
If you see a dazed and confused look on JA’s face, that mean’s he’s recovered. :)
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 18, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad you choose to ignore his dramatic decrease in returning ability as he's climbed the ladder to mediocre reciever.
I’d certainly hate for you to have to make a new username.
/dramatic post after just watching Denzel movie :]
by Black Sox Baseball on Jun 16, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude you can quit talking. I never said anything about his return abilities.
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by #23 on Jun 16, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm aware of the fact that you said nothing about his returning abilities.
Hence the “you chose to ignore his dramatic decrease in returning ability.” Maybe I shouldn’t have said “ignore” as opposed to something like “chose not to mention,” sorry for the wording. Still, all I said is I would have rather had Hester be the great returner that he was than the great receiver that he isn’t, thus far, and may not ever be.
True, he slowly got better last year as a receiver, but two of the biggest plays I recall from him were pass interference calls (that I wouldn’t have put money on him catching otherwise); plus the slow progression in receiving ability is nothing compared to the dramatic decrease in returning statistics and all around impact on the scoreboard.
by Black Sox Baseball on Jun 17, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hester's gotten very few decent return opportunities.
That’s why Manning was getting so many shots at big returns.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 17, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was open a ton deep. Go back and read the game logs and all the complaints about Kyle not being able to hit the broad side of a barn past 15 yards.
He was missed a bunch deep. Getting open deep isn’t an issue for him. The real development was his intermediate routes and him finding holes in the zone. He really looked quality at the end of the year. Speed and agility have never been a question mark. Learning how to play WR has and he got much better and it showed in his numbers. Once a guy can get him the ball deep, enter Jay Cutler, his stats will see a huge jump. Remember how he looked in limited time with Rex throwing him the ball. Pretty awesome because Rex could throw it long and Hester hardly played and only had one route. His routes are getting really good. He can be a #1 this year. That is why many are excited to see how Cutler changes his game.
We all wish his returns were better last year. Yes he may not be as good as he was back there, but the guy is not any slower or less agile. He just needs to run up field instead of backwards or across the field. He could still be very good back there. Give the guy a chance to regroup. The skills are still there. He isn’t that old.
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by #23 on Jun 17, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I certainly hope Orton's inability to get the ball that far was the problem.
I’d just like to know the long play is automatic once Hester is open instead of cringing frantically once I see the ball head Hester’s way. I’ll tell you, if he isn’t able to convert with Cutler as QB then he’ll have the media on him more than he did after not returning any last year.
by Black Sox Baseball on Jun 18, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hester is going to have a break-out year as a wide receiver.
Coming off of a 650 yard season, he will join the 1000 yard club this year. Not only can Cutler deliver the deep pass, but he will also get the ball faster to Hester in the intermediate routes.
by JimmyMack on Jun 16, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2009 devin hester 10 million
brandon marshall 2 million
by tempchad on Jun 16, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marshall is still on his rookie contract
and he’ll definitely be making as much as Hester (if not a lot more) by next season and possibly this season as well. For as big of an idiot as he his, the guy has some sense because he knows he won’t be nearly as productive with Orton at the helm so he’s trying to get paid now before the season starts.
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by gridiron_assassin on Jun 17, 2009 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hear you and agree
i was talking about two points acutally:
1. that if marshall is too expensive so is hester
2. and if we take hester off wr duty we would be paying a guy 10 mil to return kicks.
sure he has incentives based on receptions but then we have a guy taht isn’t allowed to make the money. i’m sure he’d be thrilled.
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by tempchad on Jun 17, 2009 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea I agree with you on that...
Hester was overpaid to begin with because JA overvalues his talent at WR. He’s still good for a few big plays a game but I have trouble envisioning him as a consistent force like other elite receivers. Also, I’m not too sure if he has the mental capacity for it (he’s definitely not one of the brightest guys on the field). Therefore I would have no problem with paying that much for a legit #1 receiver like Marshall. With that being said, I just don’t think it’s very realistic… Maybe next year if there’s a new CBA we can go after him as a free agent but I don’t see him in a Bear’s uniform until then.
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Jun 17, 2009 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i pretty much agree there
i think hester can make an excellent #2 but never a #1
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by tempchad on Jun 17, 2009 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 Thoughts
1) before putting Hester at 10 mil a year, could someone break down his incentives because I’m positive that most of his contract is based on performance. His base salary may be closer to 4 million. I don’t know where to get that info or i would.
2) Marshall is actually cheap this season but becomes a FA. The expensive part is the trade and also because of giving whatever you do in the trade, you are going to want a contract in place, so his price then would go up significantly since he averages 100 receptions and 1350 yards over the past 2 seasons.
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by #23 on Jun 17, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the only way to trade for marshall
is to make sure there is a contract in place.
and what’s your point about the 100 1300? for that production it’s worth the money. 100 1300 are numbers that hester won’t touch
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by tempchad on Jun 17, 2009 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jones = cocaine, convicted, right?
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 16, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes and he was given probation
and violated his probation by having a couple beers while playing golf with his buddies. The guy didn’t put anyone’s life in danger by bringing a (unlicensed) loaded gun into a club and accidentally pulling the trigger or by drunk driving/fighting a cop/beating his girlfriend. Sure doing cocaine is pretty damn stupid but he wasn’t hurting anyone but himself.
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Jun 17, 2009 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
more nfl careers have been ended by cocaine than guns
and it’s not even close
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by tempchad on Jun 17, 2009 1:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My point is that he's not a threat to society
like someone who carries a loaded gun into a very public and very crowded place and lets it go off. And I agree that plenty of players have ruined their careers and lives with drugs, that’s why my choices would be Plax first and then Jones, but Jones is probably the more realistic option.
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Jun 17, 2009 1:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
now you are talking something different
because as much as i don’t like jones, i would agree, he is the most realistic of the three options.
i don’t agree with the threat to society aspect.
I was told that I ruined this house with my anger
by tempchad on Jun 17, 2009 1:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you noticed that it's just me and you arguing back and forth in like 3 or 4 separate Fanposts lol
That just goes to show that I should really be getting to bed… But anyway it sounds like we basically agree so let’s just leave it at that.
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Jun 17, 2009 2:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i did notice that
but hey, it was interesting conversation.
well, at least my end.
kidding.
I was told that I ruined this house with my anger
by tempchad on Jun 17, 2009 2:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha yea for real...
I don’t know why everyone thinks you’re such a bad guy lol
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Jun 17, 2009 2:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's speculative, at most, to say that he's addicted to cocaine...
but with being said, any “coke addict” i’ve ever been associated with(few, and believe me, far between), they are ALWAYS a threat to someone else, hence being a threat to society.
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 17, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you know that Matt Jones is an “addict”. He used coke. Lots of people have used coke. They aren’t all addicts.
by brands735 on Jun 17, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just saw your title to that. no delete button.
Just emphasizing, lots of NFL players use/have used coke. Jones was dumb and got caught. He served his punishment and there haven’t been any signs of him using since.
by brands735 on Jun 17, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That may be true but if it comes down to it and I'm out somewhere
I’m taking my chances with the guy on coke rather than the guys with a gun.
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Jun 17, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
can't agree with you on that one...
but that’s just me… i wouldn’t let either slide, personally, but not a big fan of the nose candy.
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 17, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not advocating the use of drugs or carrying an unregistered weapon...
If I’m out somewhere and I have to fight either a guy on coke or a guy with a gun, I’m picking the cokehead 100% of the time.
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Jun 17, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO!!!
just hope he’s not a cokehead with a gun… seriously, have you ever
fought a guy all “coked out”??? believe me, you’re gonna wish one of your friends had a gun!
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 17, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who actually fights guys on coke or guys with guns?
Does this crap actually happen to real everyday people?
- Smudgers
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by smudgers on Jun 17, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
unfortunately, it does!!!
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by windycity72 on Jun 17, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I'm happy with the choices I made then.
- Smudgers
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by smudgers on Jun 17, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just have a knife with you at all times.
You’ll win 100% of the fights with the gun guy and you can distract the coke guy by serving him some of his fav narcs. :)
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 17, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Make sure to get it registered and take a class on it though.
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by #23 on Jun 17, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and not leave it open
and in your waistband… ;)
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by HoneyBear on Jun 17, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch.
I assumed everyone would follow the laws when the carry their fight weapons/drug paraphernalia. :)
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 18, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who almost got shot at a party? I haven't read that yet. Could you provide a link?
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by #23 on Jun 17, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm talking about Plax accidentally shooting himself in the club
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Jun 17, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Past
if we are “forgiving” Plax and Marshall for their crimes, we have to consider Matt Jones too.
A. He will be the cheapest by far of the bunch. We can get him prob for the same as Brandon Lloyd’s contract last year.
B. He has shown tremedous improvement since FIRST starting to play the position a few years ago. As someone that had to learn it quick, I think he would be a good guide for our younger guys and Devin.
C. He has size and speed that we need.
D. There is def no suspension with him.
Sure he may not be as talented as Plax and BM, but he does have tremendous upside and could prosper with Cutler. He would cost less money/resources and less risk because there is def no suspension with him.
by brands735 on Jun 17, 2009 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would we get B.Lloyds production too?
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by smudgers on Jun 17, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone willing to let Plax or Marshall play, likely is open to Jones, but they just would rather the better WRs of Plax or Marshall.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
by #23 on Jun 17, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So no Marshall or Plax
and you want Hester off of receiving duties. Exactly who do want our receivers to be?
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
by Adam T on Jun 16, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rashied for sure
and let’s see if we can bring back Booker too just for good measure. Too bad the Broncos scooped up Lloyd because that would’ve completed the perfect trifecta :)
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"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Jun 17, 2009 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They can't even realistically trade for Brandon Marshall. And he's got more court issues than Plax...
They’ve already burned their 1st round pick for next year – unless they really want to mortgage their future and gamble on this guy. So, that basically dwindles it down to Plax – a guy who may be in jail/and or suspended this season – or Matt Jones, who’s eligible. I say talk to Jones and go from there. Offer him a one-year deal, and if he screws up again, just let him go. Based on the amount of games he played, Jones’ numbers were pretty solid.
by JimmyMack on Jun 16, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
does this mean we can't talk about it anymore after we vote???
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 16, 2009 4:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Of course not.
But with all of the scattered threads of opinions, I figured it might be cool to try and quantify where folks stand.
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by Dane Noble on Jun 16, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if...
we do anything at all id say Marshall since Jay is already on the same page as him…but i really like our team as it is at the moment…can always make a play on a wideout next year if we struggle. hell no to jones….he is a bum and has been for a while..i hated him as a razorback and i hate him as a pro
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by tomh115 on Jun 16, 2009 4:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And Marshall was Third in the league in dropped passes
Behind Braylon Edwards and Dwayne Bowe.
by GallopingGhost on Jun 16, 2009 4:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mulligan granted.
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by Dane Noble on Jun 16, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Risk reward, Bowe and Marshall both made a lot more plays than they missed.
Marshall has averaged 1,300 yards and 100 catches the last 2 years.
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by #23 on Jun 16, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
More opportunities
means more drops. It’s hard to complain about someone who has 100+ receptions.
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by propheteer on Jun 16, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you guys CRAZY???
..why don’t we just hold a tryout at Menard or Joliet??? Forget all these reprobates…Let Devin and the kids play! If you make a trade for anyone, it’s Boldin. I’m especially excited for Hester, who’s gonna become a feared deep threat, and Johnny Knox…who looks like the slot man from hell.
by Beardawg on Jun 16, 2009 4:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I would much prefer to sign Burress
but I’m not sure how realistic that is at this point, and that’s why I chose Matt Jones. He’s still young and talented and he would come cheap and we could probably get away with giving him a non-guaranteed contract or an incentive laden contract because I haven’t heard about much interest in him coming from other teams.
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Jun 16, 2009 4:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Make an offer to Jones or Plax
I like Marshall the most, but given the fact we’d have to trade players/picks AND sign him to a long term deal kind of turns me off. Plax could help us win now and could be an assett for a couple of years. Jones, who just turned 26, is young, big, and fast, a deadly combo when Cutler’s throwing the skin around. I’m not opposed to going into the season w/ the guys we have, but any one of the three are upgrades.
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by Acreman20 on Jun 16, 2009 4:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
oh this is too ripe
i think you know my answer here.
by tempchad on Jun 16, 2009 4:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing....
Matt Jones?
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by Acreman20 on Jun 16, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, chad voted 3 times for him.
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by Dane Noble on Jun 16, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems like legal issues don't matter, to 75% of us, so why not go for the FA?
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by #23 on Jun 16, 2009 4:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Kinda sad.
Esp. considering Chicago isn’t exactly a utopia in terms of law obedience. Not sure I want to risk having these guys being surrounded by it.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 16, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but our team really doesn't have any character issues. A few guys with mild stuff in college and Briggs.
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by #23 on Jun 16, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
Let’s keep it that way.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 16, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I say let one bad bullet in and shoot up the leaague with a fully loaded offense! :)
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by #23 on Jun 17, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Defense wins championsips, 23.
Gotta remember that – plus, I’d rather have the aggressive attacker on defense where he’ll tackle guys constantly rather than on offense, where I’d rather the ball carrier be out in the open. :)
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 17, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Colts didn't beat us with a good defense. They beat us with their offense.
It would be nice to have an offense that also averaged 30 points a game to with that defense. And we know Cutler can do it with talent. So who wouldn’t want to add an offense like that to your team. It isn’t like we don’t also have a good defense.
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by #23 on Jun 17, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the colts beat us with Rex Grossman?
by rdent4hof on Jun 18, 2009 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, defense wins championship...
and our defense won the championship for indy…
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 18, 2009 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
although i am always saying...
that the colts signed rex to a 2 qtr contract at half time…
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 18, 2009 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe their defense kept our offense under control?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 18, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plax or bust
If we don’t get him, we should roll w/ hester bennett rideau and know knox..who is supposedly doing very well so far.
by Pretender85 on Jun 16, 2009 4:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the answer is brandon marshall and if you don't see it you are high
even if Plax is better, is 7 years older.
Marshall (unlike Jones) is a bona-fide #1 who has had great success with Jay Cutler and is still a young man with his best years ahead of him.
Plax is a second choice.
Jones is the Rick Mirer trade.
by tempchad on Jun 16, 2009 5:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the answer is let it ride with what we have.
And I am not high. I would rather see if what we are hearing out of Halas Hall about our current set of WRs being as promising as it sounds.
I don’t buy into everything the media says, but I do think that we have a good set of talent at the position, and the rawness can be offset by Olsen, Forte in the flat, Cutler extending plays, and our running game.
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by Dane Noble on Jun 16, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Marshall is the best option either.
and I’m not high either. The guy is a great receiver, but he is turning into a non-stop distraction for Denver.
by sirus19x on Jun 16, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i will say, a good qb can make mediocre wrs look good.
i mean look what happened with jim miller and marty booker and neither of them were good.
by tempchad on Jun 16, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok, so wtf are you smoking?
since you mention that
a good qb can make mediocre wrs look good,
why don’t you think this is what already happened with BM? and if that is what happened, why can’t Jay do it here with what we already have? yea, Plax is older, but Plax is cheaper. BM has nothing to prove, Plax has to prove that he’s determined to be an NFL player. BM wanted to leave Denver the year before his contract is up because he knows that this year, with NeckBeard throwing to him, his numbers will reduce drastically, thereby reducing his value in the eyes of the rest of the NFL offices. and don’t forget, you have to lose players in order to go after BM and with Plax, all you have to have is a check and a signature
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by ChiTown2ShineIn'09 on Jun 16, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you advocating getting plax?
i have no problem with that.
my issue is that marshall is much younger and will be at his peak for years to come. Plax is seven years older and his window is closing.
that’s all.
my response about a good qb can make a mediocre wr look good was to geaux when he said we should stand pat with what we have. i was showing how it might work out.
I was told that I ruined this house with my anger
by tempchad on Jun 16, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
$10 million a year
and probably somewhere in the range of 18-20 mil in guarantees. Basically, that’s what Marshall wants to be paid. That’s a ton of long-term financial risk to take on a guy who has serious off-field problems.
What does it matter if Plax is 31 when he’s only going to be on the team for one year? Just as much reward, without the added risk.
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by propheteer on Jun 17, 2009 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lets make an investment for the future of our qb
if we had just signed brett favre i would understand and agree. but we have young stud qb who hopefully will dominate for the next 10 – 15 years. let’s get him someone to grow with. Montana to Rice perhaps? ok that is an overstatement.
and if he has off the field problems then he doesn’t get paid anyway.
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by tempchad on Jun 17, 2009 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Invest x2
For Brandon Marshall we would have to invest twice. We would have to invest once this year by giving up a ton to get him. Then invest again next year to pay him big free agent money.
Plaxico would be most likely a one year investment. It is possible that he’ll face jail, house arrest time, etc. as well as league suspension.
by brands735 on Jun 17, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont' really care about draft picks
draft picks only represent potential. i will always give up the birds in the bush for the bird in the had.
I was told that I ruined this house with my anger
by tempchad on Jun 17, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or the hand :)
Or, in chad’s case, a trade for Wes Welker.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
by ChiFan13 on Jun 18, 2009 4:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we have tried the long-term investment route...
in Bennett, Iglesias and possibly Knox. I know none of them are true #1’s right now, but that is not saying they wont be. I see Plax as more of a bridge to help pad the learning curve – not a long term solution.
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by smudgers on Jun 17, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
those guys are chump change. not much risk there
and no clear results.
I was told that I ruined this house with my anger
by tempchad on Jun 17, 2009 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chump change now
But given time to develop (by signing Plax to a one year deal), the receivers we have might be as good as Marshall or Burress without having to give up anything. Also, is it possible that Marshall was a product of Cutler and Bennett or someone else won’t be that guy for us?
Not to mention, if we did somehow trade for Marshall, we would have to dish out a good bit of cash for him. It wouldn’t matter that much this year or next, but what happens in a couple years when we need to extend Cutler, Olsen and Forte among others?
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by smudgers on Jun 18, 2009 7:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually
I’m really pretty much up in the air about all of it. I’m thinking that JC has the ability to make our WR corp look much, much, much better than last year, and I don’t think it would be necessary to “waste” the players & money to bring in BM.
In the whole Plax vs. BM, I’d take Plax for the following reasons:
- no trading necessary
- BM doesn’t want a short-term deal, he wants a longer contract worth more money. Seeing as it’s unarguable that they both have character issues, if Chicago picks either of them up, I’d much prefer a short-term deal.
- Plax has more experience + a SB ring
- lastly, I just feel that Hester would fit better opposite Plax vs. opposite BM
I would love to see Chicago “steal” a true #1 receiver, but I would absolutely hate for them to over pay for one.
hey man, you got a j? No? You'd be a lot cooler if you did...
by ChiTown2ShineIn'09 on Jun 17, 2009 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A one year deal also lets us see if
Bennet, Iglesias, Kinder, Knox, or Riddeau could be the answer in year 2. We’ll have a year to evaluate them.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
by #23 on Jun 17, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is Jones the Rick Mirer trade? We don’t need to trade for him. It would be a 1 year contract most likely.
by brands735 on Jun 17, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't take that so literally
i was saying it would be one of the worst moves in bear’s history. i.e. the mirer trade
I was told that I ruined this house with my anger
by tempchad on Jun 17, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn’t make any sense because it wouldn’t be a horrible move.
by brands735 on Jun 17, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I am high then
Plax is a better choice for the Bears than Marshall because:
1. he only costs them money
2. he is at a minimum as good probably better than Marshall
3. this team is set up to try and win it all now so Marshall being younger is irrelevant
4. his baggage is less of an issue than Marshall’s if that even matters
by lookingdeadred on Jun 17, 2009 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3.
Great point- this is a win-now team, so the Bears can always address WR in free-agency for the future.
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"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
by propheteer on Jun 17, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 agreed to an extent
my point about youth is that we can pair marshall and cutler together for 10 -15 years. and not have to worry down the line.
I was told that I ruined this house with my anger
by tempchad on Jun 17, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he stays out of trouble. I don't know that can really.
He gets in trouble 2-3 times a year.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
by #23 on Jun 17, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marshall is probably as expensive as Boldin
Boldin is still not thrilled about his situation. So, if you really want to trade for a receiver it should be Boldin.
Like #23 said, But why trade for a playmaker when you can get a better one out of Burress just by singing him? Ink a 1 year deal then look for a FA next year or maybe draft a receiver in the 2nd round.
From what I believe these guys contracts are up in 2010:
Brandon Marshall
Roddy White
Antonio Bryant
Braylon Edwards
Terrell Owens
Vincent Jackson
Steve Breaston
Chris Chambers
I don’t know if there are any restrictions or recent contract changes, but from what I’ve read these are all planned Free Agents next season. Now chances are most of them won’t make it to free agency, but there are some big names on that list.
by sirus19x on Jun 16, 2009 5:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hmmm
marshall – ok but you don’t want him now, why later?
roddy white – perhaps. seems inconsitent
bryant – no thank you
edwards – ok, i’ll take him
to – no
jackson – can’t seem to break out. and can’t blame rivers
breaston – looks better cause of fitz and boldin perhaps?
chambers – old and badgery. pass
by tempchad on Jun 16, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK...
Marshall – He’s expensive… Keep the players & draft picks it would take and ride it out a season. Not to mention, If you can show me an example of a team who made two blockbuster trades in one offseason w/ the same team on the other end of the trade… I’d be amazed.
Roddy White – Broke 80 receptions and 1000 yards the past two years as a starter… with Joey Harrington, Byron Sandwhich, and Chris Redman in one year and a rookie (granted, a solid rookie) but a rookie regardless the other year. That’s not bad.
Antonio Bryant – Eh… maybe. maybe not. Definitely worth consideration if he has another great year like he did last season.
Braylon Edwards – Can’t disagree. He’s like a bigger, stronger Rashied Davis, who can actually step up and make plays when needed.
T.O. – Agree. I’d try to play Devil’s Advocate on this one, but can’t.
Vincent Jackson – Can’t disagree that he hasn’t broken out yet, but he’s huge and seems to have the intangibles to be very good.
Breaston – Eh… I don’t know if he is the product of that great set-up in Arizona, like you said, or isn’t being able to flourish like he should with 2 of the best receivers in the NFL above him. Tough call.
Chambers – I thought he’d take off in San Diego. I was wrong and won’t make that mistake with him again.
by sirus19x on Jun 16, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
two points
your marshall point is good but let’s go for broke. this defense is just getting older. the oline is patchwork but good enough. and the nfl is wrought with parity. get the kid a weapon and let’s see what happens.
as far as white goes, you post goes to exactly what i’m talking about. on paper under those conditions he seems great but he just seems to have a 160 yard 2 td day followed by 2 subpar games. add it all up and you get 1000 yards.
nevertheless, like i said, perhaps.
I was told that I ruined this house with my anger
by tempchad on Jun 16, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see your point...
I still think if Chris Williams comes along as a replacement for Pace, the o-line could be decent for a few years. So with that being said the offense is getting better and still pretty young. No question, the Bear’s D is getting seasoned, so I can understand your “sooner than later” approach.
You also may be right about White, I don’t focus on ATL enough to notice and frankly don’t care enough to research his stats right now. lol. So, I’ll take your word on it. With that being said, I’d still take him, even under that circumstance. Sometimes the presence of a good receiver is all you need.
by sirus19x on Jun 16, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and maybe it's me
i looked at his stats an yes, he would have monster game then have bad games. but it might not have been his fault. he could have been double teamed all day or just a day when ryan couldn’t get it going.
and i’d have to compare it to other top wrs as well to see if that is a usual thing.
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by tempchad on Jun 16, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to the NFL
Inconsistency is every WRs story from week to week. They can’t get themselves the ball, and usually an effective running game is at fault in these cases. Even the best have a handful of off days throughout the season.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
by propheteer on Jun 17, 2009 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i get that
but white seems particularly inconsistent. perhaps that is just my fantasy football impression.
I was told that I ruined this house with my anger
by tempchad on Jun 17, 2009 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last two years
he’s been a beast overall, but if you’re looking at fantasy even the best are inconsistent.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
by propheteer on Jun 17, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
like i said i'd have to really look at numbers across the board
before i can say if i’m right.
I was told that I ruined this house with my anger
by tempchad on Jun 17, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plaxx...
Well, why not Plaxico? His trial has been put off until after the season, go out and sign him to a one year gig at 10 mil. But if you could get Steve Breaston from the Cards, better, sign him long term and let him be your guy and he’s awesome on returns also…
by Fully Kreusened on Jun 16, 2009 5:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Because I'd rather not have him limping around mid-season from another gun incedent?
I’m a bit skittish after Tank when it comes to guys with unregistered weapons.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 16, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
tank had an ARSENAL!!! apples and oranges
and again, the gun WAS REGISTERED, just not in the state of NY
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 16, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
He’s right. He also didn’t have malicious intent like Tank did. He just wanted to be all “Thug life”. Plax can play, I mean he made Eli Manning look good, he’d made Cutler look like Joe Montana.
by sirus19x on Jun 16, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hadn't heard that.
I blame the media. :)
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 16, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
None of those names are going to happen with Chicago
If some want to keep on ignoring the statements and actions of Jerry Angelo, then so be it.
You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
by BLou on Jun 16, 2009 6:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I don't know why people won't listen to you....
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
by ChiFan13 on Jun 16, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i will bet that you predicted that there was no way cutler would be a bear
just sayin
I was told that I ruined this house with my anger
by tempchad on Jun 16, 2009 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah BLou is right we will never go out and make a big trade
O wait.
FIRE VDN
by gocubs526 on Jun 16, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blou I completed disagree that Angelo has said none of these guys are coming here.
He is leaving it open. He likes who we have and is willing to go with them and he is also looking to see if the right situation develops for receiver help.
Show me him saying no on Plax or Marshall in the last week and I’ll let it go. I can show you yesterday on the official site where he left the door open.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
by #23 on Jun 17, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not an affirmative "No"
but you can find the following quote here:
Smith said the Bears have had no discussions about Brandon Marshall, who announced earlier this week that he would like to be traded out of Denver like former teammate Jay Cutler was.
hey man, you got a j? No? You'd be a lot cooler if you did...
by ChiTown2ShineIn'09 on Jun 17, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be called tampering since he plays for another team. Of course he said that.
Angelo is the guy who matters. I don’t think they want Marshall though, but we’ll see.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
by #23 on Jun 17, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I may be wrong but
I still think we should let well enough alone. I think we will kickass with the WR’s we have already. With that being said, I agree with Blou. I wouldn’t be mad if we got either Plax or Marshall. We just don’t need them to be successful.
Hear about the blind hooker, you gotta hand it to her.
Rex Grossman has to be a test-tube baby, cause he's not worth a f---!!!
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jun 16, 2009 6:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't want either
I think we should see what our receivers can do with a legitimate QB, Brandon Marshall was a fourth round pick, Eddie royal a rookie, I don’t think anybody would be talking about them if they had Rex or Kyle throwing to them. As far as our defense is concerned I’m sure we won’t have as many 3 and outs, keeping them on the field for the better part of a game, so that will keep them rested. We also upgraded at linebacker with P.T. so Brian won’t have to cover 2 positions. I wouldn’t want to give up more trade picks, we have to shore up our secondary, and get some more youth on the lines.
by touchdown bears on Jun 16, 2009 6:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep, you are correct sir.
Hear about the blind hooker, you gotta hand it to her.
Rex Grossman has to be a test-tube baby, cause he's not worth a f---!!!
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jun 16, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bring me Mike Vick
made you look.
Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.
by junkhorse on Jun 16, 2009 9:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I say none of them.
Marshell would be to high of a price with players and or picks plus a big contract. Plax has shown himself year after year to be a bad teammate. I would be worried that Jones would get back into trouble again and get himself another suspension for drug charges. So with what’s available I say the Bears stand firm and see what they already have on the team.
We are who we think we are.
by Bearfan1973 on Jun 16, 2009 9:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wow. whoever voted for matt jones
tell me why because that makes absolutely no sense at all.
bo$$
by lexmarklover on Jun 16, 2009 10:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Really?
A tall, fast, talented, and decently productive receiver who has a good amount of experience in the league that could be had for cheap (say a one year incentive laden deal with behavioral clauses attached). And besides his legal issues aren’t nearly as serious as Plax and Marshall. Sounds to me like a risk worth taking because honestly the other two aren’t very realistic as far as I’m concerned.
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Jun 17, 2009 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
watch some games
You have never seen him workout/play last year. He learned the position really well in 3 years (I hope Devin can learn like him) and has an unmatched combo of size and speed. The only thing most people know about him are his past drug problems but they are in the past. And everyone on this board seems to be so “forgiving” he would be the cheapest and provide an large improvement.
by brands735 on Jun 17, 2009 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anybody happen to catch NFL Live on ESPN earlier tonight?
Matt Hasselbeck is one of the analysts on the show and he was talking about the two years he played with Plax and how he was a terrible teammate. I don’t have the exact quote and I couldn’t find a link to it but basically he was saying that Plax never shows up to meetings, barely does any work in practice, stops playing hard in games where he isn’t thrown to early and often, etc. I know a lot of people have mentioned this in this post but it was very interesting to hear coming from a former teammate.
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Jun 17, 2009 1:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i think you mean Tim.
Matt and Plax were never on the same team
I was told that I ruined this house with my anger
by tempchad on Jun 17, 2009 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup my bad, good call...
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Jun 17, 2009 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Tim Hasselbeck, a former backup quarterback for the Giants, said on ESPN’s NFL Live yesterday that teams — including the Jets — would be wise to refrain from signing his former teammate Plaxico Burress. “When you’re looking at Plaxico Burress, there’s no doubt that he can be a dominant receiver at times on Sundays,” Hasselbeck said. “We’ve seen it. But with that being said, I played with the guy. I was in the locker room with him for two years. He’s a disaster as a teammate. He’s a disaster as a guy that you have to coach.”
New York Post"
by brands735 on Jun 17, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
It was late when I posted that yesterday and I was too lazy to try and find the quote lol
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Jun 17, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was actually watching the replay later in the night...
he blasted plax! wonder what tiki’s take is on it… or strahan’s, someone that could actually make it in the NFL.
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 17, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True. His team on the field this year wanted him back, Eli, Jacobs, Osi. The backup QB from the past didn't like him.
Not sure what that means.
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by #23 on Jun 17, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's personnel W/Hasselbeck.
I made it a point to catch that NFL live, after reading something on it here. No objectivity, completely bashed him. I don’t know that I can put much sugar in that drank’. I agree
by rdent4hof on Jun 18, 2009 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not saying that this is untrue
but I get the feeling that sometimes the networks tell the sports casters what to say… or I should say “influence” what they say.
hey man, you got a j? No? You'd be a lot cooler if you did...
by ChiTown2ShineIn'09 on Jun 17, 2009 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Jones Moostache.
I voted for Matt Jones, not because of his height (bears hate height) or speed, but because he rocked the stache last year.
Without KO and his sweet neckbeard, we need some sweet facial hair on this team.
by Life as a G on Jun 17, 2009 9:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Love this guy's confidence
This is the strong attitude/personality we needed behind center:
“Cutler disagreed with the notion that the Bears need a No. 1 receiver. “I think we got one in Devin Hester,” said Cutler, who added that Hester made some steps as a receiver last year, but this year is making giant strides.
“We got everything we need out there,” Cutler said. “I’m 100 percent comfortable with the guys we have.”"
- from ESPN.com
by brands735 on Jun 17, 2009 2:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Marshall
Maybe it’s just me but the 7 or 8 incidents of domestic violence just don’t sit well.
It’s funny, I actually don’t really care about the gun charge for Plax. It seems like he pretty much paid the penalty for his stupidity in the form of a hole in his leg…
by Miidwest on Jun 17, 2009 4:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and a four-game suspension.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
by propheteer on Jun 17, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
5 if you consider the playoff game...
his debt is paid to the NFL… goddell will start a mass riot if he suspends him, not to mention, you could probably say goodbye to the CBA, as bad as this one will get between the NFL and the Players’ Union…
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 17, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure, but wasn't his suspension last year dictated by the Giants and not the NFL?
I don’t remember for sure, but if that’s the case then Goodell almost has to suspend him this year to have any credibility. Also, how many of those games last would he have missed just from the gunshot itself? Sorry, I didn’t have time to look it all up again.
by BearFan611 on Jun 17, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My guess is the NFL can decide that was enough or add more games.
It is still a mystery as to whether he will miss more. I’m guessing another 4 games, but Plax will fight it because of the games he has already missed and 9 games would not be fair for a first time offense.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
by #23 on Jun 17, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like Florio
I don’t like Florio, but at least he agrees with me:
by brands735 on Jun 18, 2009 8:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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