The Best and Worst Moves of the Offseason
by ChiFan13 on Jun 20, 2009 9:59 PM CDT
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Tom Curran from NBC detailed his best and worst moves of the 2009 offseason. These types of articles are hit-or-miss; some writers do a very good job and some do a bad job. I'll give you his list and my thoughts after the jump.
Best Moves:
Jets go get Sanchez
Cowboys ditch TO
Broncos deal Cutler
Chiefs steal Cassel
Falcons get Gonzalez
Giants load up on 'D'
Bengals get Palmer a target
Broncos add some punch
Eagles boost the offense
Haynesworth heads to D.C.
Worst Moves:
Stafford goes No. 1
Bills sign TO
Boys keep Wade
Redskins anger Campbell
Broncos, Bucs miss out (Cassel)
Bucs pay up for Winslow
Raiders reach in draft
Pats give away Cassel
Vikings play footsie with Favre
Browns hire Mangini
I feel mixed about some of these. In the best category, Jets go get Sanchez, Bengals get Palmer a target, Broncos add some punch, and Haynesworth heads to D.C. Sanchez to the Jets was a solid move, but he's also projecting that Mark Sanchez will be a stud, and there are numerous questions about that. The Bengals got Laverneus Coles, not a "best move" in my eyes. The Broncos adding Brian Dawkins (old) and Haynesworth to D.C. (too expensive and seems to play his best in contract years).
In the worst category, I disagree with the Stafford pick. Minus Jason Smith, there was really no other solid pick. The Lions were abysmal at QB and needed a franchise guy installed ASAP. Stafford has the tools to succeed and time will tell if it was a bad one.
Thoughts?
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another ridiculous "best" move
Broncos dealing Cutler? I may be biased but even putting away the homer glasses still paints a stupid ass move by their new HC McClown. I think Orton is a decent QB but for christsakes they (Broncos) won’t feel so good about this trade by week 8….angering Campbell; chalk that up in the “who cares” category.
Agree w/you about the Stafford pick as the Lions really, really need to start filling seats and it’s not a terrible move to get the best available QB and hope he can make them some money. Can’t really argue too much one way or the other about 09 draft picks as they haven’t played a snap yet. I think Cassel will not shine nearly as much now that he is out of the Pats bubble.
by reefermadness3 on Jun 20, 2009 10:16 PM CDT reply actions
Well it was stupid to anger Jay Cutler in the \first place
but they did get good value. A decent QB, 2 first, and a 3rd is not bad.
FIRE VDN
Cutler and Broncos management
Look, football fans who think players should just suck it up “for the team” and do what they’re told really ought to think about their own dumb-ass bosses. The Broncos are flailing right now because of ownership and coaching failures, and Cutler didn’t want to put up with that and didn’t have to.
I think it’s just that simple. He saw a bad situation, he had the leverage to get out, and he used it. The rest of us should be taking notes.
Meanwhile, count on the authoritarians to blame Cutler and talk about “team.” Is it or isn’t it a business? Because if it’s a business, then Cutler played hardball and won. And if you want to talk about loyalty, then I’ll listen when you show me teams being loyal to players who’ve lost a step and aren’t performing significantly better than a cheaper rookie.
All you Cutler critics with your “concerns” about “leadership,” just zip it.. Seriously.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
by xarker on Jun 20, 2009 10:32 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
Nice work from both of ya
Totally agree….I just didn’t have the energy and didn’t want to waste the time typing out something too obvious.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
yeah
I agree, when the broncos released John Lynch, the leader of thier defense, it was a business. But when they’re starting quarterback wants to get out of the organization because they’re not running it correctly you call him not a team player? its a ridiculous double standard.
by Staleystan595455 on Jun 21, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
What happened to the Bears get Marinelli as one of the best moves?
At the time they made the signing, both Lovie and Angelo acted as though he was the second coming of the Ditka. Also, where is the signing of Bullocks? But seriously, why isn’t the Culter signing considered a top ten. I mean the way its worded the Broncos made a top ten move by getting rid of him. What about Marinelli Lovie?? Jerry??
"The cup is not half empty and neither is the cup half full. The cup's just too damn big." -George Carlton
And speaking of worst moves...
Why is Bob Babich still a member of the Bears staff????? (I could go on with the question marks forever and I still wouldn’t get an answer that was acceptable.)
"The cup is not half empty and neither is the cup half full. The cup's just too damn big." -George Carlton
I actually think Bob made a deal with the devil and Lovie....
when he signed Lovie’s son at (one of the Dakotas (sorry i don’t recall which)) where he was head coach of a DIII program. He progressively worked his way into the NFL on Lovie’s coattails and eventually caused Lovie to fire a great d coordinator in Rivera because Lovie felt threatened by an up-and-coming talent on his staff and promoted lame Babich in his place knowing that Babich was no threat to ANYONE!!!! Makes my stomach churn every time I watch San Diego…….
"The cup is not half empty and neither is the cup half full. The cup's just too damn big." -George Carlton
ha
well BooBoo Babich wasn’t awful when he had to only worry about coaching a few LBs. At least I think so as we haven’t had too many crappy LB’s, but that is a good case of players making the coach. Marinelli may be a great signing but it (for me anyway) is quite difficult to get tickled pink over any coach signing. I put this in the same boat as Lovie calling the shots on D. Sounds great but let’s see what happens.
by reefermadness3 on Jun 20, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
What about...
Bears get Cutler
Bears get Pace
Bears get Pisa
Bears get Marinelli
Bears get Omiyale
I’ll now put down my Bears Kool-Aid
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jun 21, 2009 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions
drink up...
you’re gonna need it… football season is NO-WHERE-NEAR!!!
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
Actually...
In the worst category, I disagree with the Stafford pick. Minus Jason Smith, there was really no other solid pick. The Lions were abysmal at QB and needed a franchise guy installed ASAP. Stafford has the tools to succeed and time will tell if it was a bad one.
Smith would have been a far superior choice. What good is a QB if you have nobody blocking him. That was really the case this year. The line had so many miscues, they could make Cutler look like Orlovski.
But, alas, the Lions had to pick Stafford. Most fans dont realize the importance of the line, and, the QB is the glory position…
Good points
At the same time, what sorry excuse would they trot out at QB?
Second, OT’s don’t sell tickets. QB’s sure do.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
exactly
although they could make a buck mocking andre smith’s flabby b cups if they wanted to go OL
the lions have one ok tackle i can think of, the guy with the silly first name. gosder i think?
by reefermadness3 on Jun 20, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
This is
pretty similar to a list that was published pre-draft. Same stuff on it, plus some draft picks. I’m thinking it was done by the same guy considering the same head-scratchers are present.
Not the greatest article, but opinions are opinions.
A few things...
Bucs pay up for Winslow
This was in the worst category, and I completely disagree. This was a smart move because it gives whoever plays QB one of the best offenses to play with in the NFL. They have a great O-Line, a solid running game with Ward and Graham, plus they have Antonio Bryant, and now they have a go to TE. I’ve been hearing a lot about Freeman looking impressive at their camp, if he gets plugged in I see a possible Matt Ryan situation for him. I know Freeman had his doubters on WCG, I remember him being called the next Rex Grossman, because the fact that Freeman is 6-6 and has great athleticism. But Grossman was always solid with a good team around him, and the Bucs have one of the best offensive supporting casts in the NFL.
Cowboys ditch TO
Bills sign TO
I put these together because they relate, I’m of the opinion that Dallas did not get better with the release of TO. I know he had problems in the locker room but he was by no means the only troublemaker on that team last year. I’m forced to watch a lot of Cowboys games because I’m in Dallas, and I seem to remember Romo just throwing it up and TO making plays on the ball the majority of the time. I don’t think Roy Williams can be that same type of player. And on the Bills side, TO doesn’t seem to complain till year 3, so one year should only help them by giving Edwards a new target and taking pressure off Evans.
Eagles boost the offense
Since when did Jason Peters become Orlando Pace 6 years ago, people talk like he’s going to bring a physical pressence to that teams O-Line, the guy is a finesse blocker who gave up a league high in sacks last year. You can never count on rookie WRs to step up and make plays so that takes out Maclin. And I just feel that LeSean McCoy is Reggie Bush without the speed.
Broncos add punch
At first I thought who is this punch that they added and then I read that you think its Dawkins, if that’s true then I feel sad for the Broncos because I always believed that Dawkins was overrated. He always played with a Jim Johnson defense that can bring all kinds of pressure, and now he’s going to a Denver team that can’t bring any.
Also how is adding Cutler not a best move, I mean he is our first franchise QB since like the 40s, and he automatically gives us a legit chance at the SB every year.
I disagree with Winslow
His knee is shot, and everyone seemed to know that except for the Bucs. Add his me-first demeanor and you’re left with a person who shouldn’t be getting $20 mil guaranteed.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
Had a strange encounter at my job today
A man came in to buy a pack of cigs and he was wearing a bucs shirt. I commented him and he said he was a raiders fan. I told him I was a Bears fan, and he said he used to like em, but not anymore.
I asked him why he has a bucs shirt on, and he told me he bought it last year to celebrate his cousin gettin signed by the Bucs. I then asked who his cousin was, and he told me Rod Wilson. I was like “HOLY SHIT! FURREAL?!” he then pulled out a bunch of pictures from his camera phone.
I told him it sucks about that injury that led to him being cut, because we have no MLB to back up Urlacher. He then tells me Urlacher should have been his backup.
Long story short, It was real random. I’m going to sleep now.
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Jun 21, 2009 6:40 AM CDT reply actions
Cassell?
The career backup from USC? The guy that road the wave a talent in NE to a first round playoff loss? That guy? Must be the author’s roomate at camp because Cassell sucks and that will be shown once KC takes the field…
Maybe Tyler Thigpen
will get the job back. That kid looked good the second half of the season. Him and Mark Bradley were really making a nice connection.
"Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. "---George S. Halas
by Halas is God!!!!! on Jun 21, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
had a strange encouter myself
i was busy doing some decorating in what i call the den. it has a large tv screen in it and because of the time difference i have to record games and watch them the next day. i came across some vids and put one in the machine . on it was a program showing highlites of week 6 in the 96 season.at the end credits it played wlter with his head in his hands, gayle sayers duking and dodging then running to the end zone,and butkus classic sitting on the bench with his right hand wrapped up. the highlite of the bears game was at soldier field against carolina ( we won).
pats didn't exactly "GIVE AWAY CASSELL"...
they slapped a $15MIL price tag on him!!! doesn’t sound like they chiefs stole cassell
to me… the broncos missing out on him, IMO, is the biggest, mostest colossal screw up of all, cuz it set the wheels in motion for the bestest number one move in “many” off-seasons, IMO.
i’m not impressed in the least bit with sanchez… maybe i’m just hatin’, i don’t know…
it was sad to see b-dawk go, he should’ve retired an eagle, but us getting pisa would be considered a “BETTER OFF-SEASON” move to me.
the j-mac move was a great pick up, obviously no team should pass up a draft pick like him, but he is YOUNG! if i’m not mistaken, he left early for the draft. with that being said, no way him and a second year WR(however impressive he may have looked last year) cap the "BEST MOVES’ list. keeping donovan happy was a far more
impressive move to me…
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
cutler
how is giving up 2 drafts and a progressing QB for another QB who hasn’t done anything except keep what should have been a beastly denver offense in mediocrity a good trade? it’s even worse considering that they invested way too much for a QB and haven’t given them anyone to pass to. horrible idea.
kidding?
that offense was pretty damned good when it was HEALTHY. Don’t think for a second that getting Cutler wasn’t a great move. Regardless of how much I like my fellow Boilermaker, getting this dude was a huge upgrade and the most important position on a football team. Period.
mossdog
mossdog is all over the ESPN blogs with a strong man crush on Aaron Rodgers (the guy with a 6-10 career record even with two pro-bowl wide outs). If he comes on here to talk smack don’t waste your time.
There is no denying the trade for Cutler was one of the smartest football moves of the offseason. How many times did we hear Lovie say “(fill in the blank) is our quarterback.” And each time he said it, the fans and media moaned and whined for a change. Well now we have a change and a damn good one that def gives momentum and advantage in the NFC North to the Bears. Immediatley the favorites.
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